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00:00Right, let's take a moment to have a breath, guys.
00:06We need more than a moment.
00:08That was absolutely insane.
00:10That is one of the wildest things I've ever seen on Traitors, certainly.
00:14Which is television, maybe.
00:15My first thoughts were, what's Rachel doing?
00:20When she started telling everybody, I thought, that's a bit soon.
00:22Right, okay, yeah.
00:23Maybe she should have cleared it with the rest.
00:26With the other Traitors.
00:27Yeah, we're used to them going into the Torrit and having the chat.
00:30Yeah, yeah.
00:31So your initial worry was, oh, Rachel's being a bit bold here,
00:34by discussing what Amanda told her.
00:36Because then Fiona came in and absolutely torpedoed the whole situation.
00:40Well, I know, I know.
00:41But what I was going to say was, I think that because Rachel had started
00:44feathering her faithful nest, as it were, you know,
00:47that seemed to really get Fiona's back up.
00:50Yeah, it really did.
00:51But, I mean, who would have thought that she, you know,
00:54she would have suddenly got, you know, all kind of bolshy
00:57and gone, right, get you now!
01:00Unbelievable.
01:00Yeah.
01:01Rachel's like a war strategist at this point.
01:03She's moving all of her pawns.
01:04She's like Winston Churchill in terms of the war room.
01:07And then Fiona comes along as Attila the Hun.
01:10Throwing her grenade down.
01:12Absolutely destroys the whole game.
01:14It's nuts.
01:15Absolutely nuts.
01:16So, I believe that Rachel is a traitor.
01:22Ooh!
01:26Are you saying this because you don't want to get murdered tonight
01:29and you're trying to, like, spice up a little bit?
01:32I believe Rachel is a traitor.
01:34And I also believe that Amanda did not confide in Rachel.
01:41What's your take, Fozy?
01:42Do you think it was reckless what Fiona did?
01:44Yeah, I think Fiona's just went rogue.
01:47There's clearly a power struggle going on here as well
01:50because they're both strong characters as traitors.
01:53And in the past, we've seen,
01:55even though they've been traitors, unite.
01:57But everybody seems to be playing their own game here.
02:01Well, it'd certainly cover up some of your more passionate moments.
02:03Well, it would, yeah.
02:04My God!
02:06It makes bashing the table seem like child's play, for God's sake.
02:10No one's going, oh, Mark's hit the table.
02:11Yeah.
02:12Yeah, that seems a bit out of character.
02:13Look at Fiona!
02:17We should talk about the round table now
02:19because before all of this happened,
02:21we had an extremely tense round table.
02:24Today, you walked in and you said,
02:27I'm really tired, but I know who's more tired than me.
02:31You've just got to look at him.
02:33Rhys.
02:33What?
02:36Yes, you did.
02:37I'm just really sorry.
02:37I did not say that at all.
02:38Who else was in the room?
02:38Who else was in the room?
02:40Amanda, I'm just a bit confused
02:41because you were pointing the finger at me
02:43and then now you've just redirected to Sam
02:44and now you've pointed it at Rhys.
02:46That is an absolute lie and I've said it to people today.
02:48I did not say, look at Rhys.
02:51Oh, God.
02:51To be fair to Sam, that's not what he said.
02:54He said that you've got to look for the tiredest person
02:56because the traitor would have had to wait around
02:57until the end to kill the last person there.
03:00And at that moment, Rachel said,
03:02yeah, you've got to look at who's taking extra coffee today
03:04while she was holding a mug.
03:06Yes, yes.
03:07You want to go, Rachel, look at what you're holding.
03:09Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:10Yeah, you've really just got to look at
03:12who's necking coffee today.
03:14Sorry, I'm tired.
03:16It's always hiding in plain sight.
03:18Yeah, totally.
03:19It's good.
03:20Look at Alan and look at Jonathan,
03:22look at Kat falling asleep.
03:24You were always very vocal at the round tables, Fosia,
03:27I think that's fair to say.
03:28Yeah.
03:29If you had multiple suspicions like Amanda clearly does,
03:31how would you go about airing those?
03:33Would you go all in on all of them like Amanda did?
03:35No.
03:36No, you have to balance it out.
03:39I think Amanda messed up at that point.
03:42Yeah.
03:42Yeah, you've got to be careful who you pick out
03:45and make sure you've got your allies as well.
03:48Yeah.
03:48And balance it out in how much talking you do round the table
03:52and when, just picking those right moments.
03:55This all ended, of course,
03:57sorry for the flashbacks, Mark,
03:58with a very exciting chest of chance.
04:01We will dig into it more with Amanda when she's here.
04:04It's like buses, isn't it?
04:05You don't get any for four years
04:08and then suddenly there's two at once.
04:10Yeah, you started all this.
04:12At least Claudia knew where to find it.
04:13Yeah.
04:15I noticed she came back really quickly.
04:17Yeah, really quickly.
04:17I remember where I put that.
04:19What was it like watching that
04:23and having those memories floating back?
04:24It was awful.
04:25I was really feeling for Rhys, though.
04:27Yes.
04:28He's actually tough, hasn't he?
04:29Poor kid.
04:30And I don't understand where it's come from, really.
04:34He's not aware of the...
04:34It's just lots of little things have racked up, I think.
04:37And then also,
04:39I feel like his reaction to being on suspicion
04:41has been very interesting
04:42because I really feel for him.
04:44He's very quiet.
04:44He's very quiet,
04:45but then also with things like
04:47he took his own shield out in the mission.
04:49Yeah, he shouldn't have done that.
04:50He's like, well, everyone thinks it's me anyway.
04:52Yeah.
04:53So I just wanted to be in control of it.
04:54He let Fiona give away loads of skulls
04:57in the previous mission
04:58because he's like,
04:58we're not getting it
04:59and everyone thinks it's me anyway.
05:00Only somebody who's confident would do that
05:02and they would suspect,
05:03oh, he's that a traitor who's doing that.
05:04Or he feels defeated.
05:05Or just deflated.
05:06He did look deflated in that last episode.
05:08Obviously, him recounting
05:10the face-to-face murder over breakfast.
05:13A lot of people were picking him up on that.
05:15What I like about this series, actually,
05:17is people are picking up on it straight away
05:19and they're not waiting
05:20until they're in the snooker room
05:22with somebody else saying,
05:23did you see that?
05:24Did you notice that?
05:24They're going,
05:25what do you mean by that?
05:27Which is quite good.
05:28At breakfast,
05:29I think any given moment
05:31when they're in the kitchen
05:32and I've noticed
05:34they're not going into small groups,
05:35they're not little cliques either.
05:36There might be ten of them in the room
05:39and they're just saying it out loud.
05:40They're just throwing all their theories out,
05:42which is good
05:43because it means
05:43they're collectively coming up with a theory.
05:46Yeah.
05:46It's almost time to bring in
05:48banished Amanda and murdered Maz.
05:50But before we do,
05:51here's the moment
05:51where they met immediately
05:52after leaving the game up in Scotland.
05:54And remember,
05:55Maz already knows who the traitors are
05:57after the face-to-face murder,
05:58but Amanda is still in the dark.
06:00Oh, my God.
06:06Did you expect me?
06:07No.
06:12I really want to know
06:14what happened,
06:15what the reaction was.
06:17Everyone was sad.
06:19Were they?
06:19Yeah.
06:20Because you're a lovely guy.
06:21You're just fantastic.
06:23So I'm going to tell you my secret.
06:24So my secret is
06:26that I was a senior police officer
06:29in the Metropolitan Police.
06:32Well, Amanda,
06:33I've also got a secret for you.
06:35Yeah?
06:36I am a retired police officer.
06:40No way!
06:43That's fantastic!
06:45Are you?
06:47Yeah, you are.
06:48Of course you are.
06:48I knew that there was more to you.
06:52You know,
06:52now that you've told me,
06:54it makes absolute sense.
06:56I didn't even think about
06:57what you did.
06:59I just thought,
07:00I really like this guy,
07:02you know?
07:02So, Amanda,
07:03obviously,
07:04the next question would be
07:05what are your thoughts,
07:07who the traitors are,
07:08what suspicions you had?
07:11I can't go there
07:12because
07:12I don't know.
07:14I don't know anyone.
07:16I don't know who anyone is.
07:17But you must have had a feeling
07:18or an inkling.
07:19Jade was on my radar.
07:21Okay.
07:22But for no reason.
07:23She was the first person I saw.
07:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:26You know?
07:27Yeah.
07:27It could have been anyone sat there,
07:29you know?
07:30She did a couple of odd things.
07:31But then when you get to know the person,
07:33Hmm.
07:34She seems quite shy.
07:37Yeah.
07:38Quite lovely.
07:38Yeah.
07:39Yeah.
07:39You must be absolutely desperate
07:41to find out
07:42Desperate.
07:43Who the traitors are.
07:45I want to see how good they are.
07:47So.
07:48Oh, my God.
07:49I'm going to give you that.
07:51Oh, my God.
07:52This is so exciting.
07:53Oh.
08:01Stephen.
08:05I'm not surprised.
08:07Shall I do the next one?
08:08Yeah, next one.
08:09The Little Minx.
08:17Fiona.
08:19The Little Minx.
08:21Love that woman.
08:23Absolutely brilliant.
08:24Oh, my God.
08:24Let's have a look at the last one.
08:26Oh, my God.
08:37Oh, my God.
08:39No way.
08:44Rachel.
08:46Well.
08:47Your best mate.
08:48Brilliant.
08:49All I can say is
08:50I was saying earlier
08:51I hope she wins.
08:53Do I heck.
08:53And Maz and Amanda
08:57are with us now.
09:00Welcome.
09:01Welcome to both of you.
09:02Thank you, Sam.
09:03Amanda, let's talk about
09:04your reactions
09:04to who the traitors are.
09:06Stephen first.
09:07You didn't seem massively surprised
09:09that Stephen's a traitor.
09:10It's one thing
09:11knowing that you,
09:13well,
09:14you know,
09:14having a strong suspicion
09:15that someone is a traitor.
09:17It's another thing
09:17trying to convince everybody else.
09:18Of course, yeah.
09:19And that's the key
09:20to the game.
09:21If you put someone's name
09:23out there,
09:24one,
09:25you're putting your name
09:26and you're putting your reputation
09:27on the chopping block,
09:29you know,
09:29if they're playing a good game
09:30and he did play a good game
09:31but he gave himself away
09:32a little bit.
09:33What was it about Stephen
09:34that gave himself away?
09:35He just looked so nervous.
09:37Yeah.
09:37Yeah.
09:37He was just nervous
09:39and, you know,
09:41he went so red.
09:43I think the pressure
09:44was getting to him
09:45at that point,
09:46wasn't it?
09:47I think he started
09:48overcompensating for
09:50because the way
09:53he was before,
09:54he was,
09:54he's a very confident guy.
09:56Yeah.
09:57You know,
09:57he dresses smart.
09:58Yeah.
09:59I looked at him
09:59and I thought,
10:00what a fit guy.
10:01Yeah.
10:01You know,
10:02you know what I mean.
10:05Yeah.
10:06Yeah, we know, okay.
10:07You know what I mean.
10:08Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10:10Really likeable,
10:11really a big character
10:13and he was doing really well
10:15in the sense that
10:16having that pressure
10:17of being a traitor
10:18and then keeping
10:20all these ties
10:21and relationships.
10:22He's got low level
10:23kind of attention though.
10:25I mean,
10:25he's getting two or three votes
10:26every round table
10:27up till now.
10:29But, you know,
10:29I think after the explosion
10:30in the kitchen,
10:31I think he'll be
10:32all right for a while.
10:32I think if he can
10:33sort of stand back
10:34a little bit.
10:35Maz, you didn't seem
10:36surprised at all
10:36when you saw
10:37that he was a traitor.
10:38When you're sat
10:39in that cage,
10:39you were like,
10:40yeah, it's definitely him.
10:42I just had this feeling
10:43about him
10:44and I thought,
10:45do you know what?
10:45This guy's really confident,
10:47really comfortable.
10:48But then he tried
10:49to throw me under the bus
10:50with the family tree thing.
10:54Yes.
10:54And I thought,
10:55hang on a minute,
10:56my name's not been mentioned
10:58up to now.
10:59But then he's come up
11:00with this theory
11:01that maybe I was
11:03the last one
11:04to have been there
11:05in the hallway.
11:06But then he even admitted
11:07that he went five minutes
11:09after you.
11:09Yeah.
11:10But no one else
11:10picked up on that.
11:11But nobody picked it up.
11:12Yeah, and I thought,
11:14why has he done that?
11:16Maz, when you found out
11:17who the traitors are
11:18in the face-to-face murder,
11:19you obviously said,
11:20Stephen,
11:21I thought it might be you.
11:22Yeah.
11:22But you said to,
11:23was it to both Fiona
11:24and Rachel,
11:25you've let me down?
11:27Yeah.
11:27Which I thought was great.
11:29Yeah, I was really disappointed.
11:30I mean,
11:33these were supposed
11:34to be my friends.
11:36I mean,
11:37Rachel told me
11:38that she loved me.
11:40Yeah.
11:42She told me that
11:43she knew
11:44that I was
11:45100%
11:46a faithful.
11:47Well, she did.
11:48Yeah.
11:49She knew all the faithful.
11:50Yeah.
11:51And Fiona,
11:53I mean,
11:54I was completely
11:55shocked.
11:56As the secret traitor,
11:58Fiona had put you
11:58on the shortlist twice.
11:59Absolutely.
12:02How does it feel
12:03seeing all that back?
12:04I really don't
12:04understand that woman.
12:08Fosia,
12:09you were,
12:09of course,
12:10on the receiving end
12:10of a face-to-face murder.
12:12How did it feel
12:13watching Maz
12:13go through the same thing?
12:14Oh, I did feel
12:15for you, Maz.
12:16Did you?
12:16I did, yeah.
12:17But it's an epic moment.
12:20It is.
12:20Take it with pride
12:21that, you know,
12:22you got to see
12:22the traitors
12:23face-to-face.
12:25Amanda,
12:25I loved your reaction
12:26to Fiona.
12:28Can you just
12:28talk us through
12:29your finding out
12:30she was a traitor,
12:31how you reacted to that?
12:32She's just like
12:33a ball of energy,
12:35you know?
12:36She's cheeky.
12:36Cheeky minx.
12:37Naughty but nice.
12:38Naughty but nice, yeah.
12:40Also,
12:40Ed was saying earlier on,
12:42she's got this
12:42brilliant thing
12:44of kind of going,
12:44oh,
12:45I don't quite understand.
12:46What did he say?
12:47I don't,
12:48you know,
12:48this kind of like
12:49a bit ditzy
12:50and confused
12:51about stuff.
12:52Brilliant.
12:52But actually she's,
12:54you know,
12:54plunging the knife
12:56into the hilt.
12:57Absolutely brilliant.
12:58What about Rachel?
12:59The moment in that clip there
13:01where you find out
13:02it's Rachel
13:02and you can see yourself
13:03process all of that
13:05and go,
13:05I told her that
13:07I'm a former detective.
13:08I chose the traitor.
13:10I know.
13:10In a split second,
13:12my head went,
13:14you're going to look
13:14really stupid.
13:15Oh my God.
13:16She's my best friend.
13:18She was my best friend
13:18in the castle.
13:19And then I thought,
13:20how can I get out of this?
13:21Well,
13:21she's brilliant.
13:22She fooled me.
13:23What kind of possessed you
13:24to want to even share that
13:26with her though
13:26at that stage?
13:27So it all started
13:29when the nine people
13:31got told
13:32they were up for murder.
13:33Yeah.
13:33And I thought my odds
13:35are just going down
13:36and down and down.
13:37And to be honest,
13:38every day I was thinking,
13:39why am I not being murdered?
13:41Okay.
13:41Because I would murder me.
13:43Definitely.
13:44And I just wanted to sort of
13:45blurt it out.
13:47And I thought you could have
13:48blurted a theory out
13:49but not shared your job
13:51title.
13:51Yeah.
13:52Yeah.
13:55But I wanted to tell Rachel
13:57and I just thought
13:59she could,
14:00she can use it
14:01for good or evil.
14:02Can I just ask
14:03about your final round table
14:04about the honing in on Jade
14:05but then turning to Sam
14:07and then Reece?
14:08Oh.
14:09It just seemed
14:09to incriminate you
14:11even further.
14:12I really felt for you then
14:13because it was like,
14:14oh no.
14:14So the dominoes
14:16were just falling
14:17and I could feel,
14:18I could feel them falling.
14:20So it all sounded a bit odd
14:21and watching it,
14:25yeah,
14:26I mean,
14:27it just looks ridiculous.
14:29Doesn't it?
14:29I would deserve to be banished.
14:32Okay.
14:33Totally.
14:34Totally.
14:34Because I just confuse
14:35the hell out of everybody.
14:37But I was,
14:38you know,
14:38a little,
14:39it was a little bit
14:40rabbit in the headlights
14:40but it was also,
14:42I've got all this
14:43information in my head
14:45that I want to get out
14:46to help.
14:47Yeah.
14:48Because,
14:49I think I said it a few times,
14:50I'm just,
14:51I'm here to help.
14:52But no one believed that,
14:53did they?
14:53No, no.
14:54I got called an influencer.
14:56Which is one of the worst things
14:57you can be called.
14:58Well, yeah.
14:59That's true.
15:00That's true.
15:00So obviously,
15:01the round table
15:02ended in a chest of chance.
15:04Right.
15:04The second time
15:06in Traders UK history
15:07this has happened.
15:08We're of course
15:09sat with the other,
15:10I was number one.
15:11The other casualty.
15:12I know.
15:12For chest of chance.
15:13Amanda,
15:14talk us through
15:15how you're feeling
15:16in the chest of chance moment.
15:17I thought,
15:18I've got 50,
15:19I've got 50-50,
15:20you know.
15:22But I,
15:22I resigned myself
15:24to the fact
15:24that I might go.
15:26So I was gearing myself up
15:27for you banished.
15:28I definitely,
15:30definitely was nervous.
15:31And I think Rhys
15:32was doing the same thing.
15:33He'd almost given up as well.
15:35And it was weird
15:36from my perspective
15:37seeing that
15:37because Rhys
15:39was getting so much flack
15:40that he'd got to a stage
15:41where he was like,
15:43Deflated and just give it up.
15:45Yeah.
15:45Just,
15:45just,
15:46just give it to me.
15:47It's all right.
15:48You know,
15:48I can.
15:49And then on the other hand,
15:50there was you
15:51that were probably
15:53feeling the same
15:54or if not a bit more
15:56and,
15:57and sensing
15:58Rhys's frustrations.
16:00I just wanted to
16:01run round
16:02and give him a hug.
16:03Yeah.
16:03Now before there's a deadlock,
16:04obviously there's a chance
16:05to plead for survival.
16:07You'd get to say something.
16:08Mark,
16:09obviously you had to go through
16:10all of that.
16:10Oh yes,
16:11I thought you were going to ask me
16:11to do it.
16:12Please do it now.
16:12If you wish,
16:13if you wish to continue
16:14being on this show,
16:16you must plead.
16:17I think I'm a really valuable
16:18member of the panel
16:20and I try my best.
16:22I give a lot.
16:25What's,
16:26what's it like having,
16:26having to do that?
16:27And what,
16:27what was it like watching
16:28Amanda and Rhys have to do that?
16:30To be honest,
16:30that whole round table,
16:32starting with Alan
16:34going off on one about me,
16:36you know when you get
16:37white noise in your brain
16:39and you can't,
16:39it was just like a kind of
16:41fight or flight,
16:42I suppose,
16:42is what it was.
16:43So you're kind of
16:44totally thinking
16:45on your wits.
16:47How can you think
16:48I'm a traitor?
16:49How can you,
16:50you know,
16:50that's all that was
16:51going through my head.
16:52I'm like,
16:52mom,
16:52mom,
16:53I'm a faithful,
16:53you know.
16:54So that's why I got
16:55as,
16:56you know,
16:57animated as I did.
16:58But I mean,
16:59I guess you're far more
17:01used to dealing with
17:02stressful situations
17:04than I probably am.
17:06I just,
17:07I think I had a bit
17:08of an out of body experience.
17:09Yeah.
17:10I just thought,
17:11oh,
17:12I'm done.
17:13I'm done.
17:14If I was in that situation
17:16and they said,
17:17plead for your life
17:18at this point,
17:19I'd throw my toys
17:20out of my pram.
17:21You're like,
17:21look,
17:22you've all voted for me,
17:23you don't even deserve me.
17:26I'm not sure
17:27that would have worked.
17:29I'm not,
17:30I'm not,
17:30I'm not sure,
17:31Ed.
17:31I don't know.
17:32After the round table,
17:33things got,
17:34things got very interesting
17:35as I'm sure you've both
17:36seen by this point.
17:37Yeah.
17:38Rachel revealed
17:39the information
17:40that you gave her
17:41to the group.
17:42Obviously,
17:42what she didn't realise
17:43was what was going to happen
17:45immediately afterwards
17:46with Fiona.
17:47Oh my lord.
17:48Yeah.
17:49I mean,
17:50I don't even,
17:50I still can't wrap my head
17:54around what Fiona did.
17:55So Fiona got really angry
17:56with Rachel.
17:57Yeah.
17:57Decided that she was lying.
17:59Yeah.
17:59She was shocked
18:00that you hadn't told her.
18:02Yeah.
18:02Or the fact
18:03that her family
18:04are involved
18:05in the police as well.
18:06Yeah.
18:06Did she share that with you?
18:07She did.
18:08She did actually.
18:09But I think
18:10I was so engrossed
18:12in not being
18:12a police officer
18:13that it just,
18:15there's a lot of moments
18:16for us here.
18:17Do you have those moments
18:17where you think,
18:19oh yeah,
18:19I've got this,
18:19I've got this,
18:20I've got this,
18:20these two,
18:21this is going to come to,
18:22oh, I've forgotten.
18:23Yeah.
18:23And it just goes
18:24and you just forget
18:25or, you know,
18:26you go on to something else
18:27because you're in
18:27fight or flight mode
18:28quite a bit,
18:30aren't you?
18:30I don't think any of us
18:31could have predicted
18:32Fiona's next move.
18:33Maz, what do we think
18:34of Fiona's reaction
18:35and do we think
18:37it's a good idea?
18:38For the show,
18:39I think it's a fantastic idea.
18:40Yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:41For the show.
18:42We all agree with that.
18:43We've never seen
18:44anything like it.
18:45Do you know,
18:45I think she took it
18:48personally.
18:49Oh, yeah.
18:51I think she's thought,
18:54how dare Amanda
18:55tell Rachel
18:58and not me?
18:59Yeah.
19:00Because I think
19:01under all that
19:02show,
19:03I think she has
19:04or she wants
19:05that control.
19:06Mm-hmm.
19:07Yeah.
19:07We were saying that.
19:08And I think
19:09you letting
19:11Rachel know
19:12took some control
19:14away from her.
19:16Yes.
19:17And I think
19:17she really took
19:19offence to that
19:19and that's why
19:20we see,
19:21because she's
19:22completely,
19:23she's marching,
19:24isn't she?
19:24Yeah.
19:25Maz,
19:25if you'd been in the kitchen
19:26when Fiona came in,
19:27what would your reaction
19:28have been?
19:29I would have loved it.
19:30I would have absolutely
19:31loved it because I,
19:33I wouldn't have expected
19:34that off Fiona.
19:35Yeah.
19:36Didn't Rachel deal
19:36with it so well?
19:37Oh, yeah.
19:38I think you have done this.
19:40You don't think
19:41that she spoke to me?
19:43No, I don't.
19:45I don't.
19:45I think you have done this
19:47for your own benefit.
19:48So you don't think
19:50that she sat me in there
19:51and told...
19:53Not for one minute.
19:54Okay, well then,
19:55I'm not continuing
19:55this conversation.
19:58She was like,
19:59what are you doing?
20:00You could see
20:01her little face going,
20:02what are you doing?
20:04You're sabotaging
20:05my, you know,
20:06my time and yours.
20:07But that's such a natural
20:08reaction, even if she was
20:09faithful, that would be
20:10the natural reaction.
20:11I think Stephen's the one
20:12who could have worked
20:13with his reaction
20:14a little bit better
20:14because he was like,
20:16gags and then
20:17left the room.
20:18Yeah.
20:18He went, okay,
20:19I've got to get out of here.
20:20Oh, but Amanda,
20:21you know like,
20:21gangsters have a code.
20:23Yeah.
20:25Yeah, I know about that code.
20:27Yeah, of course there is.
20:28You'd expect the traitors
20:29to have a little bit
20:30of loyalty
20:31and have a bit of a code.
20:32I mean, you know what?
20:33Go for it when there's
20:34five of you left.
20:35Yeah.
20:35But not at this stage.
20:37Mark, what about you?
20:38If you'd been in the kitchen
20:38when Fiona stormed in,
20:40how would you have reacted?
20:41Oh, well,
20:42exactly the same as Mark.
20:43I would have absolutely
20:45lapped it up.
20:45Yeah.
20:46Yeah.
20:46I mean, in that kind of like
20:47bum squeak way.
20:49Yeah.
20:50Where you're just like,
20:50oh my God,
20:51this is going off
20:52and I'm actually here.
20:53I'm just going to walk.
20:55You know all the snacks
20:55in the middle?
20:56Oh, yeah.
20:56Is there any popcorn
20:57that you could just grab?
20:58Yes.
20:59Yeah, exactly.
21:00It's that.
21:00Yeah, yeah.
21:01Just dipping it in.
21:01Sit back and watch it unfold.
21:03Oh, it's great.
21:04Great.
21:05It's a shame
21:06that they left it
21:06so late in the day
21:08because you've got to go home.
21:09Yeah.
21:10But if, you know,
21:10if you'd started that
21:11in the morning,
21:12it could have raged all day.
21:14It would have been brilliant.
21:14Well, the faithful go home.
21:17They're straight into the turret.
21:18Well, they're straight into the turret.
21:18Oh, yeah.
21:19What do we think
21:19is going to happen in this turret?
21:20Because we've seen them
21:21take the hoods back
21:22and they're obviously...
21:23A fight?
21:23That evil look.
21:23A full physical fight.
21:24Yeah.
21:26I mean, it's like cloaks off.
21:27I said, watch that well.
21:28It's going to get filled up
21:29in a minute.
21:29Is there any possibility
21:34that they can come back
21:36from this?
21:36No.
21:37Is there?
21:38I think it feels like
21:39maybe Rachel would not be
21:40mega angry at Fiona.
21:42She would just be a bit baffled.
21:44Yeah.
21:44So I think there may be
21:45some sort of getting to the bottom
21:46of why this has happened.
21:48Yeah.
21:48It doesn't feel like
21:49they can come back from it
21:50and be a United Traitor team,
21:51does it?
21:51No.
21:52Well, the thing is, though,
21:52they've got to...
21:53Because they're both traitors,
21:55they've got to face each other
21:57in the turret now.
21:57Yeah.
21:57Have a conversation about it.
21:59But the next day,
22:01Yeah.
22:01they've got to seemingly,
22:03as faithful...
22:04You're right, yeah.
22:04...have another conversation
22:06or, you know,
22:07be with everybody else.
22:08Yeah.
22:08So there's going to be
22:09two levels of, you know,
22:12playing the field.
22:13Because now they can't
22:14have a discussion in the turret
22:15and decide they're going to
22:17try and rein it in
22:17and go, right,
22:18we need to be a team.
22:19The next morning,
22:20what's Fiona going to do?
22:21Go, she's not a traitor,
22:22actually, I've decided.
22:22Yeah.
22:23But the other thing is,
22:24it raises suspicion
22:25slightly on Rachel
22:27where she hasn't had
22:29that attention at all.
22:31It's the attention, isn't it?
22:32Isn't it?
22:32Yeah, yeah.
22:32And then hopefully Stephen
22:33withdraws from the background
22:34a little bit.
22:35He had so much heat on him
22:36and now he can just let that play out.
22:37Well, it's perfect for him,
22:38isn't it, now?
22:38Yeah.
22:39Thank the Lord.
22:41You know,
22:41he can stop sweating now,
22:42can't he?
22:43Well, we're out of time here
22:47on BBC One,
22:48but we'll keep chatting
22:48over on BBC Sounds.
22:50I'm going to get into the minds
22:51of Maz and Amanda
22:52as if they were traitors.
22:54Mark and Fosia will be sharing
22:55what their post-traitors life
22:56has been like
22:56and we'll dig some more
22:58into that player WhatsApp group.
23:00It's all in your bonus episode
23:01of Uncloaked,
23:02which you can hear right now.
23:03Just scan the QR code
23:04on the screen
23:04or search for us
23:05in the BBC Sounds app.
23:07I'll be back tomorrow night
23:08with guests including
23:09celebrity faithful
23:10Charlotte Church
23:11to see what the fallout is
23:12following Fiona
23:13and Rachel's revelations
23:14and I cannot wait.
23:16Big thanks to Mark,
23:17Fosia, Amanda and Maz
23:18for joining in the fun.
23:19I've been Ed Gamble.
23:20Stay faithful.
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