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Governments have secrets. After years of silences, secrecy and classified documents, researchers struck gold as a previously hidden Pentagon UFO report was discovered. This began a storm of revelations that took investigators closer than ever before to solving the mystery of the alien autopsy and to finally finding out what really happened in the desert of Roswell in 1947.
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03:32again is because of the alien autopsy and interestingly internal communications
03:39from the cia have been released where they're actually talking about alien autopsy back then
03:45and and verifying that they had that they believe that the footage is real and they've seen it
03:50themselves and it has been called the alien autopsy memo it is a string of emails
04:02between a chap called eric davis and dr kit green on this 11-page document they are evaluating
04:14a number of things on which they were working on but primarily it is the alien autopsy film they're
04:22discussing
04:28it's addressed to u.s billionaire bob bigelow who used to run an organization called the national
04:35institute for discovery science nids and he employed a number of scientists to study ufos
04:41one of those scientists is is dr kit green kit green formerly worked for the cia
04:48this email list is clarifying statements made by kit green concerning the alien autopsy film it's dated
04:572001. without going into too greater detail he came to the conclusion as did though the others copied in
05:05in on these emails that the alien autopsy film in his opinion was real and that he'd some seen exactly
05:13the same type of film at a briefing at the pentagon back in 1987 stroke 88 and it's caused quite an uproar
05:22yet again
05:38and when you look at the consensus of ufo researchers around the world and when it
05:46comes to these documents and it's like oh no not the alien autopsy again i thought we'd done that
05:54so we proved it's a fake let's move on you know let's forget about it please
06:03the leaked documents were sent to me by three different individuals the day before they were
06:11released online i had no idea this was about to happen but it just did
06:24it is believed it has come from an archive of a well-known gentleman who had passed away
06:34i'll not mention his name because it's not yet been verified
06:40but it seems plausible enough he was involved in ufo research is an extremely well-known gentleman if i
06:46mentioned his name
07:06four minutes later he was joined by ed mitchell
07:10there's a number of people who are copied in on this email and one of those who's copied in
07:21i emailed them and asked them if the documents in question were authentic
07:27and he said off the record philip yes they are
07:30the gentleman i contacted on email has refused to answer any more questions and it would appear to me
07:38that both him and his colleagues who are mentioned in this document are embarrassed because this was an
07:45internal set of emails and was never meant for public consumption the only person so far to speak to
07:55kit green about this is a u.s uh researcher richard dolan you know richard has interviewed him on the
08:02telephone i think one of the first things he asked him was is this email list is it authentic
08:09uh and he said yes it is
08:17another chap who worked for robert bigelow was a chap called colm kelleher
08:23and he contacted me and he asked me to speak with ray santilli for him
08:29what colm was was seeking at the time was a good quality copy of the alien autopsy film and of course
08:40some celluloid some 16 millimeter film to analyze so i did like i'd done many times before put him in
08:49touch with santilli and and left them to it the main gentleman mentioned in these documents who was
08:57commenting on the alien autopsy film is a gentleman called christopher kit green everyone knows him
09:03as kit green he's an md he's a phd and still practices medicine even now in the united states
09:12dr green at one point was employed by the cia worked on a number of projects for them in a variety of
09:20capacities so he's a you know a highly intelligent gentleman and one that's very well qualified as well
09:29he claims that the briefing he was given in 1988 stroke 87 was specifically about the alien autopsy
09:38i think the main reason when you look at these documents is why they would want
09:53kit green to evaluate the alien autopsy film there are two reasons one is that in 1988 stroke 87
10:04kit green himself says he was taken to the pentagon and briefed and shown films that looked exactly the
10:14same as the alien autopsy film gives his own medical opinion on what he sees on that film and he says
10:22what field of expertise do these people have dealing with an enemies of alien beings i assure you none we were learning that was day one of school when they first cut into the first specimen
10:51one time there was a requirement for our oic to go to fort belvoir virginia so i went ahead and i was
11:03selected as the driver to take him to fort belvoir virginia after we arrived there he went to where
11:08the officers were meeting for a briefing the drivers went to another location there was myself and an airman
11:16first class and we went inside to the balcony area which had a pecs of glass cover over where we could
11:23look down to where the officers were when we looked down there we found that they were watching films
11:29we were watching thinking well it has to be some type of uh science fiction movies that they're watching
11:35where they're splicing them together like trailers at an end of a movie we couldn't figure out what type of
11:41movies they were so while we were talking amongst ourselves we looked around we had two gentlemen come
11:46in and told us we were to follow them
11:54the airman and myself thought we were in trouble because we'd seen all these officers
11:59being brought together with taxpayers money watching what we proceed to be uh little clips from
12:07science fiction movies because i honestly didn't think that we would ever be in a position where
12:13i could be so easily exposed to something like that however after four days and five nights of that
12:20i went ahead and finally convinced them that i wouldn't be discussing this situation the interesting
12:28thing i found out when i first saw the films the uh films of the dissection the
12:37word that i used to describe what i saw was haunting and it had a special significance to me
12:45because i was seeing images of what i saw in 1969
12:52that brought back specific memories what happened to me is what they call intensified debriefing
12:59and i can tell you this much intensified debriefing you'll go ahead and you'll take sleep over food
13:08you'll get water because see it's important you have water or you'll die
13:14they'll provide you with food
13:18but you slept in spurts you'd go and lay your head down on the pillow you'd go into what they call deep
13:25sleep that's about three to five minutes and you'd be woken up and you'd be taken back put under the lamps
13:30again for more intensified debriefing and what they do they knew that you were wondering what was going to
13:40happen to you so it had an effect on you and that's about the jest of it forgive me
13:50he emphasizes it and actually spells it out in capital letters and says they are the same
14:02not similar but the same and of course that's simply not possible
14:08there are those that think that perhaps you know ray santilli is not behind the invention of
14:18the alien autopsy of um nor is spiros melaris but instead for some mysterious reason it's the cia
14:26there are a number of well-known ufo researchers primarily in the united states i can't believe
14:33that someone of kit green's experience and standing would be fooled by a fake film
14:45so there must be something more to it and they believe that he was indeed shown other films fake
14:53or real by the cia that look either the same or similar to the santilli film
15:02therefore the cia must in some mysterious way be linked to the faking of it
15:10i can't see any sense in that at all and don't believe a word of it
15:15it is alleged that the cia have fed false stories about ufos into the public domain and for a variety of
15:27reasons we do know for a fact that they did feed fake ufo sightings into the public domain to cover
15:36up overflights of their own spy plane so they may have other reasons for putting fake alien stories into
15:47the public domain
15:48if we jump back to roswell for example some people claim that the alien aspect of it is a fake story
15:59to cover up what really did happen but this is only speculation
16:04you've got a scientist and a medical doctor being fed information by the cia
16:16dr kit green who has now been interviewed by richard dolan has changed his attitude somewhat he believes
16:23now the film is a fake and he says that the cia lied to him back in the 80s however it does now still
16:32say that some of the film that he saw at the pentagon some of the aspects of it like the creature's face
16:40and the hand and the room were still simply not possible
16:49when kit green does his evaluation he notices a few small mistakes in the medical procedure but then
16:58you know he has an explanation of why these mistakes may have been made because it was
17:03back in 1947 they didn't do things the same then as they do now and so it was the military you know
17:10and there are different ways of doing things he speculates that if any tissue samples were taken
17:18they would go to the walter reed institution which of course is based at wright patterson air force base
17:26which we have mentioned before and its links with ufo research although he's only speculating he
17:33he doesn't know this for sure it's just pure speculation at that point
17:39when you look at dr kit green's evaluation of the the alien autopsy film he doesn't get anything
17:48right and you think to yourself is he looking at the same film as me
17:53and because he mentions various medical items in it which you can't see you know they're just not
18:00there so it does make you wonder how he's come to these conclusions you know i've tried to get in
18:06touch with mr green to ask him a few questions the first one i would ask is how did a manner of your
18:12reputation and experience come to be fooled by this fake film that would be my first question but
18:17unfortunately i've not had that uh that chance yet
18:26there's a number of things that are important about the memo it shows you how someone with the
18:33knowledge and experience of dr kit green can be fooled by a piece of film he wasn't alone at the time
18:44when the film was released around the world there were a number of physicians who went on the record
18:50saying it looks pretty authentic as far as the medical procedures concerned however they wouldn't
18:57comment on what the creature on the slab was he's gone that one step further so it just shows you the
19:04impact that this film had not just when it was released but you know down the decades and still does
19:11continue to have uh such an impact i think the biggest revelation is that just when you think
19:19you've heard everything there is to hear about the alien autopsy film and i have a huge archive of
19:24material on it that something else appears and brings it back into the public domain again
19:31and the argument starts from scratch it was almost as if the 14 years i spent investigating it
19:38it would have been a complete waste of time
19:46what is amazing is that ray santilli had been quiet for quite a while but once this email document leaked
19:56he was back on social media saying i always knew that there were documents somewhere that would prove
20:03that what i'd been saying was correct all along he's even done a couple of interviews on a couple
20:09of podcasts still saying yeah i told you that i had real film i told you there was a mysterious cameraman
20:15well you know these documents don't prove anything but he's using it to the best effect
20:20kick green cia in the papers that were released said he'd seen my film before we published it
20:25that purely verifies exactly what i've been saying all along the film the story is real the film is real
20:32um we did restore the film uh in order that people can today see you know what happened in 1947
20:40but you know we're not magicians if he's seen the film before i published it or before we published it
20:45then what does that tell you it tells you that the film is real it's good timing there's been a lot of
20:51interest from the media serious interest since december 2017
20:59when a gentleman called louis elizondo stepped forward uh giving details about a secret ufo study done
21:08by the united states department of defense and a couple of video films were released of ufos and so on
21:14yeah control on bro there's a whole fleet of them look on the asa my gosh
21:23they're all going against the wind the wind's 120 miles from the west
21:26that's all that thing dude
21:38that's not around us though is it it's not
21:44it's rotated
21:46these aircraft we'll call them aircraft are displaying characteristics that are not currently
21:52within the u.s inventory nor in any foreign inventory that that we are aware of so i know
21:58you're using you're being clear but i mean the answer is yes um my personal i can't speak on behalf
22:04of the government obviously i'm not in the u.s government anymore my personal belief is that uh
22:09there is very compelling evidence that we uh we may not be alone
22:22the u.s billionaire bob bigelow has always had an interest in ufo research
22:36why in 2000 2001 they would decide to try and analyze the alien autopsy film is anyone's guess
22:48maybe they'd seen it on a tv show or they'd looked at it online and thought perhaps it's a good idea
22:55if a billionaire comes along with money saying i'm gonna look at ufos then you know people stood up and took notice
23:01my own theory
23:10my own theory
23:12on why kit green
23:15and others in these emails
23:18state that they believe the alien autopsy was real
23:22was not to upset their paymaster
23:25which was mr bigelow
23:27i don't think mr bigelow would be interested in fake stories
23:33so they're playing to the audience and the audience being mr bigelow
23:38they had a vested interest in in keeping the mythology alive if you like
23:46when it comes to the the ufo subject in in general and the argument that
23:51we are being visited by aliens from another world
23:55kate green says in these documents there's a number of reasons why there's a cover-up
23:59and you know he gives his own opinion for that and one of those is that there is a an elite
24:06government cabal if you like or just another one is just it's the right thing to do but it doesn't
24:12explain why it's the right thing to do but these are just his own personal opinions and are no more
24:19valid than yours or mine
24:33the genesis of the alien autopsy film did not start with the cia did not start with spiros malaris
24:58but began with a piece of film called the tent footage and even that was not what it seemed
25:15we can trace the origin of the alien autopsy film
25:20beyond spiros he may have made it but he didn't come up with the idea
25:24we go back to 1993. Ray Santilli used to work with some gentlemen at a company called AK Music in Milton Keynes
25:40they used to have what we might call brainstorming sessions fun brainstorming sessions
25:47it was at one of these sessions that the alien autopsy film was born
26:01Ray became he claimed in possession of this again via his mysterious military cameraman
26:09claimed this was you know part of the film roles he'd got he was having them processed in some way or
26:15transferred onto video and this was the first of the first batch to be to be done and there was more to
26:22follow but it all came from his former military cameraman that's what he told us
26:29in reality of course that's not true in the 1990s i had a tip-off from a gentleman who said i know
26:39something about the alien autopsy film he gave me his telephone number and cutting a long story short
26:47he said the people you should be talking to are Keith and Andy that's AK music that's being Keith Bateman
26:56now AK music had closed but i managed to find Keith Bateman and he had as you may not be surprised a very
27:05different story to tell about the so-called tent footage
27:20my initial reaction upon and viewing this so-called tent footage was a sigh of relief to be honest
27:30i was not convinced that i would see anything that we could do anything with but here we had a piece
27:38of film it lasts about eight minutes i believe or thereabouts there are people in it whose faces are visible
27:48albeit it's pretty dark and there is an alleged alien lying on this slab
27:54it's the kind of film i expected it wasn't high quality
28:08it looked like it could have been some kind of scrap film that had been forgotten like race until he
28:15claimed it was had been left behind because it was so poor quality
28:20you usually find with the best ufo videos are the ones that are the the worst to look at
28:30this kind of fitted the bill so to speak it certainly got my attention
28:34there is some bogus alien autopsy footage that someone else had done at the same time um this was uh
28:55stuff in a in a garage or something it had nothing to do with us at all
28:59it had nothing to do with us when i first found out what they were doing i got upset with them and we
29:10tried to stop them because they were trying to ride off the back of everything we were doing
29:18when i saw the tent footage is to be honest it's the kind of film i expected to see
29:24i expected something that might be a bit dark degraded scratched you know from the bottom of
29:32somebody's rubbish bin or whatever you want to call it so i wasn't disappointed again i'd been
29:38speaking to santili for about a year and a half i've now actually seen some film film did exist
29:54andy price box and keith padman had a video production company which we used at the time
30:04for various different projects so they knew me and as with most people you know if i'm involved in a
30:11project i generally tell people on you know what we're doing so i carried on with the project they
30:16knew i i was involved in it and they came up with their own footage and they knocked on my door and said
30:21look you know we've got this footage why don't you use this which was complete nonsense
30:26of course i'm not going to use it we have the real thing why would i want to be
30:29bothered with something they shot in that garden
30:31i discovered that it wasn't made by some mysterious cameraman it had in fact been made
30:46by keith bateman and his colleagues the original film was actually even shot in color
30:53i thought that was the end of it and then i realized that they would started going to to
30:59press with the footage they had off the back of our story and i've got our lawyers involved and we
31:06tried to stop them i think they're still trying to sell it saying i was involved with it but was never
31:11involved in it
31:28a race until he later went to say that what really happened with the tent footage is that he gave
31:35ak music some 16 millimeter film to be transferred onto video and unbeknown to him it was so badly
31:44damaged that they couldn't do that and that ak music went away and made this piece of tent footage
31:53and brought it back to him and told him that that was the film that they'd recovered from this reel
31:58so in fact he'd been host that was his excuse for removing it from production
32:11they played a prank on him but in reality had the film got out then there was every chance that the
32:19individuals on it could have been recognized and of course could be tracked down i would have found out
32:24that it wasn't made in 1947 it was made in 1993 in a barn in bedfordshire
32:42what you see is a creature laid on a slab it's mostly covered by a blanket or a sheet
32:50see its head beyond it are two gentlemen in white coats they seem to be handling some fleshy material
32:58and you see a flash now and again that looks like some kind of implement or knife there is an old
33:04fashioned lamp hanging up and then from time to time there's a gentleman with his back to the camera
33:10walks in and out occasionally so it is claimed that this is the ons onsite inspection if you like
33:17the tent footage of the creatures in roswell new mexico and that's the first piece of film that i was
33:23shown that reg presley was shown the other researchers were shown before the alien autopsy that we know
33:34you know i was quite surprised i i thought we'd see something that was far worse than this
33:38so i tried to concentrate as much as i could and taken all these images in just in case we never saw it again
33:53when i got to speak to keith bateman he lives on the south coast a long way from my house
34:06he told me how in 1993 he was having a brainstorming session with ray santilli there was a few of them
34:15and they used to have a bit of fun come up with crazy ideas apparently ray santilli said
34:24be nice if we had some roswell footage just so happened that one of keith's employees a chap called
34:33philip yarman was reading a ufo book and in that book it had several pages about roswell
34:42so keith had a bing a light bulb at the moment and decided to make some roswell footage
35:02he made the head of the alien out of a polystyrene head that he used to put a wig on
35:08he enlarged the eyes in it and blacked them out put some i think he put either lemon or orange peel and
35:15and blacked it out with a pen under the sheet you can see your body under the sheet it's not the alien
35:21it's actually keith's son lying still the two gentlemen in white coats one is another one of keith's employees
35:30the other one is a local butcher
35:36and they went to the local butcher for some fleshy material some giblets some offal so when
35:43you see these two gentlemen in white coats handling a fleshy like material in the distance that it is
35:49indeed flesh but it's it's animal flesh and the man who walks with his back to the camera every now and
35:55again is a farmer they filmed it on a farm in bedfordshire so you know he got in on the act as
36:02well they even asked one of his colleagues who worked for him to lie under the cloth first but
36:07he's disabled he's in a wheelchair so he couldn't get up on the table so the reserve was was keith's
36:14son and if you look at it closely you can see his head bent to one side like that it's actually keith's
36:20son underneath the sheet
36:38keith originally shot it in collar he ran it through the computer his colleague philip who he
36:45employed put scratches on it and then aged it and made it look old there's no soundtracks so they
36:51changed it to black and white and they presented this to ray santilli he knew it was fake he knew they'd
36:59made it ray said that's not good enough it's not clear enough go away and get me a budget for something
37:09better keith bateman told us i went and got a budget it won't say from where or who he spoke to
37:16and it was 30 40 000 pounds something in that nature and ray said no that's too much forget about it
37:28however ray kept the tent footage you know the blue touch paper had been lit
37:36so it was made in a barn in bedfordshire by keith bateman and his colleagues i've spoken to keith's
37:42colleagues spoken to philip jarman and they've all confirmed what keith is saying is correct
37:55when the television companies became involved certainly fox in the united states
38:01they were presented with a package of film for use that package consisted of two minutes of the tent footage
38:15one of the autopsy films
38:17and the debris film
38:23and the debris film
38:31at the last moment ray pulled the tent footage and asked them not to use it and he came up with a
38:40story that the cameraman didn't recognize it and i wasn't sure about it but of course we know the
38:46reason the reason was is that it was a hundred percent fake and the people on it you could see their faces
38:53and the people on it you could see their faces as simple as that
39:05you
39:07you
39:09you
39:11you
39:13you
39:15you
39:17and the thing about this tent footage that makes it a blatant hoax is that all the people involved
39:29you know pretty much have gone on the record and Keith still has the film in color
39:34what is interesting is that this was the piece of film that Ray Santilli showed to everybody
39:46and used it as kind of bait it was even the film that he showed first off to Spiros Malaris
39:53and said I've spent a lot of money in making this film and you're telling me it's not real
39:58that it's fake because it was always shot on video it was never shot on on celluloid
40:04so it was used as a bait for everyone
40:12Ray had an excuse for everything you know you would point something out that would contradict
40:21what he'd been saying and he'd come up with an excuse for it but you don't have to believe me
40:26you can speak to Keith and his colleagues like I have they're all there they'll tell you what
40:33happened they'll tell you the origins of the alien autopsy film it's certainly not with the CIA
40:38and it's certainly not with respect to Spiros Malaris it's happened at this little meeting
40:45they had this brainstorming session and it was just an off-the-cuff remark wouldn't it be great
40:50if we had some Roswell footage Keith does have a wicked sense of humor and he went away and made it
40:57and had that not have happened there would have been no alien autopsy
41:00and we would not be sitting here today talking about it
41:03of course when we come to Ray Santilli today
41:11he still maintains that he did indeed meet this mysterious military cameraman
41:19who did indeed show him some alien autopsy film
41:24and he may even have had a few scraps of it you know a few frames of it
41:30and that he recreated it or restored it as he calls it
41:37but in other words the film you see now is in fact not real
41:42which is what he did say back in 1995
41:46so he still stands by the story of meeting this mysterious cameraman
41:50had Keith Bateman and his colleagues not have made the tent footage
42:08then Ray Santilli would not have had any bait to use
42:12therefore he would not have been able to tell a fake story to Spiros Malaris
42:17who then in turn wouldn't have been able to come up with the idea
42:20to make the fake alien autopsy film
42:23that you know eventually went around the world to fool
42:25you know millions of people
42:27it simply would not have happened
42:47that you know you know it's still a few times
42:55you know it's still a long time
42:56but it's just a fun time
42:58that means not to be able to come up with the name of the person
43:00the experience can't even up with the writing
43:02and remember what he did
43:03to get out of the way
43:05that he played on the writing
43:06and he did to have any voice
43:08for friends who lived on the writing
43:09or for friends and his colleagues
43:10and his colleagues
43:12that he had the viendo
43:13the reading of the writing
43:15and he did not have any head
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