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04:21Vous êtes ici, si vous perdez, vous êtes ici, et c'est le problème.
04:26Je hâte de l'avoir et de l'emotion.
04:30C'est le problème.
04:31Il était en train de parler de son corps et de problèmes qu'il avait,
04:35de l'anxiety qu'il était en train de se sentir à l'époque.
04:37Il ne peut pas regarder les games anymore.
04:41Jérémy, vous avez fait de prendre trop de pression sur vous?
04:44C'est exactement le façon dont je suis.
04:48Jérémy, c'est comme ça, c'est comme ça.
04:52Mais vous avez le feeling de l'intérieur,
04:54comme il y avait quelque chose de personnel entre les deux,
04:59vous savez, Phil et Jérémy.
05:01Une partie de choses changent.
05:04Jérémy, c'est maintenant le face de la franchise
05:06de l'entreprise de l'entreprise.
05:09Jérémy, c'est comme devenu poussé à l'avant.
05:13Jérémy, je peux sentir que j'étais, vous savez,
05:17all that excited about Phil.
05:19You know, people think I don't like Phil Jackson.
05:22That's not the truth at all.
05:24I have great respect for him.
05:26But he and I are two different people.
05:28From my standpoint,
05:31you know, Jérémy and I had a very workable relationship.
05:36Well, it's funny, you know,
05:37if you know Phil, you're gonna like him,
05:39and if you know Jérémy, you like him.
05:41But between the two, they have big conflicts.
05:45They seem to clash pretty much at the beginning.
05:48When you talk to Phil,
05:49it would be crossed arms or whatever.
05:52Whatever the body language was,
05:53you could tell there was something going on.
05:56We were in the locker room after every game.
05:58And then the first game at Staples,
06:00Staples had just opened.
06:01We walk in and Phil just stops
06:05and in so many words
06:08tells Jérémy to get out of the locker room.
06:11He said, get the fuck out of my locker room.
06:13In front of the whole team.
06:15My eyes got big like they are now.
06:18I know Jérémy took a little offense to it,
06:20but there was a whole host of things
06:22that might have been affecting Jérémy at that time
06:24that I have no relationship to.
06:26It got to the point where
06:27he basically didn't hardly talk to me,
06:29which was fine.
06:31As long as you're winning, that's fine for me.
06:33But I knew, I knew that I was not going to be there
06:37very much longer.
06:38My father said Jérémy had come in
06:40and wanted a piece of the team,
06:43something that my dad couldn't give him.
06:46And so they had to part.
06:49I think that was difficult for my dad,
06:52you know, because Jérémy was one of his confidants.
06:55To be candid with you,
06:56I don't want to be interviewed anymore.
06:58I just want to disappear.
07:00I didn't tell anyone.
07:03I just left.
07:04I took a newspaper out and I left town.
07:06I went up to Alaska fishing.
07:09I read it in the paper.
07:11I was very upset.
07:14Jérémy's my guy.
07:15I'm only here because of him.
07:16I actually tried to stick up for him.
07:20And he says,
07:21nope, stand down, big fella.
07:22Let me handle it.
07:23I knew that it was going to be a loss for the team.
07:26But, you know, Mitch and I knew each other for years.
07:30Patience and perseverance paid off for you personally
07:32getting what you consider the best job in sports.
07:35Well, it is the jewel, in my opinion,
07:38certainly in the NBA, perhaps in all sports.
07:41He had my vote big time
07:43because I saw how much he put into it.
07:45And my dad loved the guy.
07:46I remember Shaq and Kobe
07:48being pretty cruel to him at the practice facility.
07:52Mitch's office overlooked the court.
07:55And Shaq and Kobe used to slam basketballs
07:59up against Mitch's window
08:01while he was at the computer.
08:02He would jump and they would just laugh.
08:06And then, you know, like, the respect level
08:08between what was shown to Jerry West
08:10and what was shown to Mitch
08:12at the very beginning was very, very different.
08:16I don't want to talk about Mitch.
08:19I'm a Jerry West guy.
08:21Even with all of the distractions and the chaos,
08:24what goes on on the court,
08:25that's the most important thing.
08:33Thank you very, very much, ladies and gentlemen.
08:36In June, the Lakers won the championship, huh?
08:41And all it does is add up to the seventh
08:43world championship of the Los Angeles Lakers.
08:50Them winning that championship in 2000,
08:53and my dad was like,
08:54did Phil have to make it look so easy?
09:00I never thought about anything
09:02but doing this job the best I could
09:04and getting on the horse
09:05and getting back after it the next year,
09:08trying to do it again.
09:09And to my players,
09:11if they stay on track,
09:13we might win back to back.
09:15The real trick is winning two,
09:20coming back and winning another one the next year.
09:23To do that is really special.
09:27At that point,
09:29we had swept everybody up
09:31until the first game of the finals.
09:32It was Iverson!
09:35Iverson was criticized a lot
09:37for trying to do everything by himself.
09:38Allen Iverson's really their prime mover.
09:42His constant furious attack
09:44creates the energy that this team thrives on.
09:47The steps over Toronto!
09:52The Sixers won game one,
09:54but ultimately,
09:55the Lakers just were the better team that year.
09:58I could look at Shaq
10:00or Derek or Kobe
10:02across the floor
10:03and I was connected to them.
10:15Oh, he feels a beautiful touch.
10:18You know, when you're able to do back-to-back,
10:43that's when it's so crap.
10:45Y'all were good.
10:46Y'all were a championship team.
10:48Back-to-back?
10:49Back-to-back.
10:50Just like this.
10:51Back-to-back, baby.
10:53Is this the beginning of a dynasty?
10:55It possibly can't be.
10:57Dr. Buzz, that makes seven.
10:59You've got to be proud of this Laker team.
11:00Yeah, I'm very proud of this team.
11:02I don't think anybody expected
11:04we could really defend the title.
11:06First time in a long time it's ever been done.
11:09Who knows?
11:09Maybe never again.
11:10A piece of history right here.
11:13Get it again!
11:14We're going to get another one this year!
11:16Again, back-to-back-to-back!
11:20And without getting too far ahead,
11:22wouldn't it be sweet to repeat?
11:25The way things work,
11:27it's almost impossible to three-peat.
11:31Once you price yourself out of a team,
11:34it's hard to keep that team
11:36to win another championship.
11:38but now a third one.
11:39Holy smokes.
11:40This repeat was fantastic.
11:43But at the same time,
11:44you're always looking at the next year.
11:46you're looking at the next year.
11:50Wraith your hands on their...
11:51Everything's a plan,
11:54Wicked up.
11:55Oh, la-la-la-la-la.
11:59Winning a...
11:59La-la-la...
12:01Winning a championship,
12:03take everything you got.
12:05SACRAMENTO, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A YEAR, BUT I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S NOT.
12:12IT'S THE DREAM MATCH-UP.
12:15THE SACRAMENTO KINGS, THE BEST RECORD IN THE NBA
12:18AGAINST THE TWO-TIME DEFENDING CHAMPION, LA LAKERS.
12:22WESTERN CONFERENCE FINAL, GAME ONE.
12:24THE LAKERS AND THE KINGS HAVE FACED EACH OTHER IN THE PLAYOFFS
12:27FOR THREE STRAIGHT YEARS NOW.
12:29THE LAKERS HAVE WON EACH ONE.
12:31THE KINGS WERE THE BETTER TEAM THAT SEASON.
12:33THE TEAMS THAT BUILT UP ANIMOSITY, MOCKED EACH OTHER IN THE MEDIA.
12:39WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE SACRAMENTO QUEENS.
12:41NOT AT ALL.
12:43I THINK OF THE MOVIE GLADIATOR WHEN I THINK OF THAT SERIES.
12:46IT REALLY WAS JUST THIS BLOODY ALL-OUT BATTLE.
12:52FOR A PLAYER LIKE ME, EVERY TEAM ALWAYS GOT UP FOR WHATEVER TEAM I WAS ON ANYWAY.
12:57BUT THIS YEAR IT'S JUST LIKE THEY HAVE THAT LITTLE EXTRA.
12:59SHAK WAS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST OPPONENTS THAT I PLAYED AGAINST.
13:05WHEN HE CATCHED THE BALL IN THE LOW POST, HE CAN SCORE ANYTIME.
13:09HE'S UNSTOPPABLE.
13:10BUT WE WERE WINNING.
13:11WHEN THE BALL WENT UP AND THEN I SAW VLADI SLAP AT IT, I THOUGHT FOR SURE THE GAME WAS OVER.
13:23I LOOKED AT ORIE AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE HE WAS IN THE RIGHT POSITION FOR THAT SHOT.
13:33BEING AT THAT GAME, ROBERT ORIE HITTING THAT SHOT WAS JUST ELECTRIC, MAN.
13:39YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BUILDING WAS SHAKING.
13:41IT WAS CRAZY.
13:42IT FELT GREAT TO TIE THAT SERIES UP.
13:45I WAS JUST THINKING, LIKE, YEAH, HOW YOU LIKE ME NOW?
13:48THAT ESTABLISHED ME AS BIG SUBROB.
13:49YOU WON THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO ADVANCE TO PLAY FOR THE THIRD STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP.
14:03THIS IS THE LAKE SHELL YOU'RE PLAYING.
14:05ME, COBE, RIOT FOR THREE.
14:08YES.
14:09BOB, B-SHAUN, RICK FOX.
14:11I'M OUT THERE WITH SOME DOGS.
14:14THIS TIME IT'S KRAKEEL O'BEAL.
14:17OH, WE'RE GOING FOR THE FINALS.
14:27WE'RE IN THE FINALS.
14:28WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT HERE AND LET IT ALL HANG OUT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
14:31BYRON SCOTT, A MENTOR OF YOURS, WHAT'S IT LIKE TO HAVE HIM NOW ON THE OTHER SIDE?
14:35I USED TO TELL HIM ALL THE TIME HE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT COACH.
14:39I WAS COACHING MY FIRST JOB WITH JERSEY.
14:42AND I'M MATCHING WITS WITH ONE OF THE GREATEST COACHES OF ALL TIME.
14:45TWO OF THE BEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME, BUT WE'RE PLAYING AGAINST A TEAM THAT WAS A MONSTER AND I THINK WE ALL KNEW THAT.
14:52THE LAKERS ARE REALLY ATTACKING THE BASKET, BEAUTIFULLY.
14:59THE LAKERS ARE REALLY ATTACKING THE BASKET, BEAUTIFULLY.
15:06THE LAKERS ARE REALLY ATTACKING THE BASKET, BEAUTIFULLY.
15:08THE LAKERS ARE REALLY ATTACKING THE BASKET, BEAUTIFULLY.
15:13THE LAKERS ARE REALLY ATTACKING THE BASKET, BEAUTIFULLY.
15:20BEAUTIFULLY.
15:21I KNEW WE WERE GOING TO SWEEP THESE MOTHERFUCKERS, SO I'M IN NEW JERSEY.
15:27GAME FOUR, ON THE FLOW, ME AND NATE DOG, WITH MY SPARKLES AND MY 8TH JERSEY ON.
15:33WE'RE DESTINED TO WIN.
15:34THE LAKERS HAVE MADE IT THREE STRAIGHT IN THEIR CHAMPIONSHIPS.
15:47IT'S MY EXPERIENCE THAT THE THIRD VICTORY IN THREE SUCCESSIVE YEARS IS ALWAYS THE MOST UNIQUE AND
15:53MOST DIFFICULT ONE TO FIGHT YOUR WAY THROUGH, AND THIS CERTAINLY WAS THIS YEAR.
15:56WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE HARD, BUT TO WIN THREE IN A ROW, THAT'S SOME ELITE STUFF RIGHT THERE.
16:03WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS.
16:05A THREE-PEAT, DR. BUS.
16:07I MEAN, THIS SQUAD HAS NOW GONE DOWN IN HISTORY.
16:10IT'S ECHTED ITS OWN NAME IN THE ANALS OF HISTORY AS FAR AS THE NBA IS CONCERNED.
16:14I GUESS THERE'S ONLY A FEW TEAMS THAT HAVE EVER DONE THAT, AND SUDDENLY WE'RE ONE OF THEM.
16:20I'M SO PROUD OF THESE GUYS, I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU.
16:23THE FANS IN L.A., I WISH EVERY ONE OF THEM COULD BE HERE AT THIS MOMENT.
16:29I'M OUTSIDE THE NEW JERSEY NETS LOCKER ROOM WITH BYRON SCOTT.
16:32HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO PLAY THESE GUYS AGAIN AND WE'LL SEE IF IT'S A DIFFERENT STORY.
16:36SEE, I HAD THOSE MIXED EMOTIONS.
16:38BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, DAMN.
16:41BUT I WAS ALSO LIKE, YES, IT'S MY ORGANIZATION.
16:44FEELING THE SATISFACTION TO WATCH THIS PARTICULAR TEAM GET BACK TO THE TOP AGAIN AND DO IT, YOU KNOW,
16:50FOR THREE STRAIGHT YEARS, SOMETHING THAT WE WANTED TO DO, SOMETHING THAT WE TRIED TO DO.
16:54MAGIC AND KARIM WERE ABLE TO WIN BACK-TO-BACK TITLES, BUT YET THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO THREE-PEAT.
17:04ONCE A DYNASTY EXPIRES, LIKE WE DID, IT WAS JUST, HOW LONG WAS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR JERRI TO BUILD ANOTHER DYNASTY?
17:14AND IT WASN'T UNTIL ALMOST TEN YEARS, PHIL JACKSON SHOWED UP AND THEY WON THREE IN A ROW.
17:29BUT ALL THINGS THAT ARE GREAT, ONE DAY COME TO AN END.
17:34CONGRATULATIONS, THE GREATEST.
17:36CONGRATULATIONS, THE MOST DOMINANT.
17:38YOU TOOK THAT JERSEY UP, PUT YOUR OWN JERSEY ON, PLAY.
17:40ABOUT TIME NOW?
17:41YEAH.
17:42HOLE.
17:43HOLE.
17:44THIS IS WHAT WE WORK HARD FOR.
17:48RIGHT HERE TONIGHT.
17:49RIGHT HERE.
17:50TIME WINDING DOWN.
17:53WE WERE DOING GREAT OURSELVES WITH A SPARCH.
18:03THE CRAZY THING WAS, WAS BECAUSE THE LAKERS DID THE SAME THING THE YEAR BEFORE.
18:15IT MADE ME FEEL SO PROUD.
18:17YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T TALK TO MY DAD VERY OFTEN AT THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
18:22BUT HE CALLED ME FROM ITALY.
18:24HEY, DAD.
18:25HOW DID YOU KNOW?
18:26YOU KNOW, WE JUST WON.
18:28AND IT WAS, OF COURSE I KNOW YOU WON.
18:31EVERYONE, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THIS.
18:33THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
18:35I'M HAPPY THAT JOHN WAS ABLE TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS ON HIS OWN.
18:39IF YOUR FATHER'S WINNING ALL THESE CHAMPIONSHIPS AND YOU'RE RUNNING A TEAM,
18:43PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU WEREN'T DOING IT AS WELL AS YOUR FATHER.
18:47BUT IF YOU WIN SOME CHAMPIONSHIPS, THEN YOU GET THE SAME KIND OF APPLAUSE.
18:52THEY STAYED APART.
18:53I NEVER REALLY SEEN THEM TOGETHER MUCH.
18:55BUT JOHNNY AND I TALKED ABOUT HIS FATHER BEING HAPPY AND PLEASED ABOUT THE WAY HE'S HANDLING THE TEAM.
19:00HE SAID, COOK MAN, HE'S LOVING IT.
19:03JIMMY WAS JUST, I COULDN'T GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE.
19:06IT WAS LIKE, CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?
19:07CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?
19:08I THINK HE WAS IN VEGAS WHEN HE CALLED.
19:12JOHNNY SAID THAT THE CALL FROM YOU MEANT A LOT TO HIM.
19:16AND I'M GLAD SOMETHING MEANT SOMETHING TO HIM.
19:20MAYBE PATCH UP THE 2000 ERA.
19:22WHO KNOWS WHAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, TILL.
19:26BUT IT WAS JUST A FUN MOMENT FOR THE BOYS, I GUESS.
19:33I WAS AN AGENT REPRESENTING MICHAEL COOPER AT THE TIME.
19:36AND JEANNIE WAS A FRIEND OF MINE.
19:38AND JOHNNY WAS RUNNING THE SPARKS.
19:39THE SPARKS WERE DOING PRETTY WELL.
19:40HE PUT TOGETHER A STRONG FRANCHISE.
19:42THEY HAD GOOD PLAYERS.
19:43THEIR ATTENDANCE WAS PRETTY GOOD.
19:45THEY WERE SELLING SPONSORSHIPS, AND THEY WON SOME CHAMPIONSHIPS.
19:48BUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH JEANNIE WAS REALLY HARD.
19:51OH, I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN THE SPARKS REPEATED.
19:55MY BROTHER DID A GREAT JOB.
19:58JEANNIE, I DID RUN INTO HER, TALK TO HER.
20:01OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS, YOU KNOW.
20:04BUT THERE WAS A LEVEL OF RESENTMENT.
20:08AND I TALKED TO MY DAD ABOUT IT, AND HE SAID,
20:10WELL, JEANNIE IS STILL A LITTLE UPSET THAT SHE DIDN'T GET THE WNBA TEAM.
20:15BECAUSE JEANNIE'S A FEMALE, PEOPLE THOUGHT HER CHESS WOULD BE RUBBED BY A FEMALE.
20:20I'M ENVIOUS, YOU KNOW.
20:22AND THERE WERE PEOPLE SAYING, WELL, WHY DID YOU GET THAT OPPORTUNITY?
20:27JEANNIE AND I ALREADY GOT TO THAT POINT WHERE WE DIDN'T TALK THAT OFTEN.
20:32BUT MAYBE IF JEANNIE HAD TAKEN OVER THE WNBA,
20:37MAYBE SHE WOULDN'T HAVE GOT THE JOB WITH THE LAKERS.
20:41IF YOU LOOK AT HER PATH, EVERYTHING WAS PERFECT FOR HER.
20:46AND IF THAT WAS MY FATHER'S DOING, OR IF THAT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, BY CHANCE,
20:52I MEAN, JEANNIE, ARE YOU COMPLAINING?
20:55YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING.
20:59MY DAD WOULD HAVE SAID, I WANT YOU TO DO THIS, I WOULD HAVE DONE IT.
21:02IN A HEARTBEAT.
21:04BUT, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTOOD WHY HE HAD JOHNNY TAKE ON THAT ROLE.
21:08BECAUSE MY DAD DIDN'T WANT ME TO LOSE FOCUS ON THE LAKERS.
21:12YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE TEAM.
21:15THE BIG THINGS AND THE LITTLE THINGS, RIGHT?
21:17OF COURSE, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH JEANNIE.
21:20I HAVE TURNED THINGS ESSENTIALLY OVER TO HER THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS,
21:24AND THIS IS MARVELOUS.
21:26I CAN JUST SIT BACK IN THAT BOX, AS YOU SAY, PARTY A LITTLE BIT,
21:30AND WATCH THE BASKETBALL GAMES AND KNOW EVERYTHING'S IN GOOD HANDS WITH JEANNIE.
21:36SHE DIDN'T WANT TO GOLF.
21:37SHE DIDN'T WANT TO PLAY CARDS.
21:39SHE WAS ALWAYS AT WORK.
21:40SHE WAS ALWAYS DOING HER JOB.
21:43AND SHE WAS ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, PRESENT.
21:48BY THAT TIME, PHIL AND I WERE LIVING TOGETHER IN A HOUSE BY THE BEACH.
21:53BEFORE I WOULD LEAVE FOR WORK, HE'D SAY,
21:55WHAT TIME ARE YOU GOING TO BE HOME?
21:57HE DID LIKE TO COOK, AND HE WOULD TELL ME WHAT HE WAS GOING TO MAKE.
22:03I HAD MY DOG, PRINCESS, BUT HE CALLED HER CUJO.
22:07AND THEY WOULD BE HOME DURING THE DAY WHEN I WAS AT WORK.
22:12WHEN HE WAS COOKING, HE WOULD HOLD HER.
22:14ARE YOU GETTING SOME KISSES FROM LITTLE PRINCESS CUJO?
22:18AND THERE WERE SOMETIMES THAT I WOULD BE LATE FOR DINNER,
22:22AND IT REALLY BOTHERED HIM.
22:25YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES YOU GET CAUGHT IN A CONVERSATION,
22:29AND ANOTHER OWNER CALLED.
22:31SOMETHING ALWAYS CAME UP AT THE END OF THE DAY.
22:35THERE WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING GOING ON.
22:38SHE KNEW KIND OF THE LIFE AND THE HEART AND SOUL OF WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT.
22:44I PAID MY DUTE.
22:47WHEN YOU CAME TO THE LAKERS, WERE YOU TREATED AS THOUGH YOU PAID YOUR DUTE,
22:53OR WAS THERE A SENSE OF, OH, THIS IS THE BOSS'S DAUGHTER?
22:55UM, WELL, I'LL ALWAYS BE JERRY BOSS'S DAUGHTER.
22:59I DON'T LIKE TO SEE THE PRESSURES THAT ARE PUT ON HER.
23:02I THINK THAT I FEEL RESPONSIBLE WHEN SHE GETS INTO SO MUCH STRAIGHT.
23:07AND I KIND OF WISH I COULD REMOVE IT, BUT IT'S TOO LATE NOW.
23:12BUT YOU'D FEEL THAT WAY NO MATTER WHAT I WAS DOING IN MY LIFE,
23:15BECAUSE YOU'RE MY DAD.
23:17HE WORRIED ABOUT HER.
23:20HE WISHED IN SOME WAYS SHE COULD HAVE TAKEN A BREAK.
23:26HE TOLD ME, I REALLY WISH SHE WOULD GET MARRIED AGAIN AND HAVE A FAMILY.
23:33THIS IS MY SHOWER. IS THIS FUN?
23:36THE WOMEN THAT WERE MY AGE, THAT WERE MY FRIENDS, YOU KNOW, BY THEN WERE, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THEIR FAMILY, HAVING THEIR CHILDREN.
23:45I THINK SHE'S ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE KIDS.
23:48UM, SHE TALKS ABOUT IT.
23:50SHE WOULD BE JUST LIKE MY DAD, PROBABLY SAD BECAUSE SHE'S SO INTO THE BUSINESS.
23:55HOW COULD YOU POSSIBLY RAISE A FAMILY?
23:59I DON'T THINK I COULD HAVE BEEN A WORKING MOM.
24:02I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TORN ME APART.
24:05DO ENOUGH IN YOUR JOB SO YOU DON'T GET BEHIND.
24:08DO ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, SO YOU DON'T MISS MILESTONES OF YOUR CHILD'S DEVELOPMENT.
24:15NOT, UM, JUDGMENTAL OF ANYBODY WHO FELT LIKE THEY COULD DO IT ALL, BUT THAT WASN'T ME.
24:24DR. BUS TOLD HER, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK SO HARD.
24:30BUT I THINK SHE REALLY FELT THAT IT WOULD PLEASE HER DAD.
24:35I THINK EVERYTHING WAS MORE BASED ON PLEASING HER FATHER AND GETTING HIS APPROVAL.
24:42THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST MOTIVATING FACTOR FOR, UM, WORKING HARD AND DEDICATING MYSELF HERE,
24:51IS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO IMPRESS HIM WITH MY ABILITY.
25:00MY FATHER UNDERSTOOD IT WAS TIME FOR HIM TO KIND OF BACK OUT OF THE LAKERS.
25:04HE CERTAINLY WAS GROOMING JIMMY AND JEANNIE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
25:09WHEN YOUR FATHER OWNS THE TEAM, YOU WOULD ASSUME EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO OWN THE TEAM.
25:15AROUND THAT TIME, MY TITLE CHANGED.
25:19MY DAD SAID, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF YOU WERE ASSISTANT GM.
25:23I THINK MY DAD WANTED ME TO START, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT DISTINCTIVENESS THAT, OKAY, HE'S NOT JUST A SCOUT.
25:31WELL, I WANT HIM TO LEARN AS MUCH ABOUT RUNNING THE BASKETBALL PLAYERS AS POSSIBLY CAN.
25:36HIS ROLE IN THE FUTURE WILL BE DICTATED BY HOW WELL HE LEARNED WHAT HE'S DOING NOW.
25:41HE'LL BE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME WITH CURT.
25:43DR. BUST CREATED A JOB FOR ME TO WORK IN THE FRONT OFFICE TO HOPEFULLY INCREASE JIMMY'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE SPORT.
25:51MY DAD KNEW FOR THE TEAM TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND FOR ME TO BE SUCCESSFUL THAT JIMMY HAD TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS LIKE ON THE ROAD.
26:04BUT I HAD MY DOUBTS THAT MY BROTHER WOULD BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT KIND OF ROUTINE AND SCHEDULE AND, YOU KNOW, BE ON TIME.
26:18BECAUSE IT'S HARD, IT'S A GRUELING LIFE AND IT TAKES A TOLL ON YOU.
26:25THERE WAS NOT MUCH DOWN TIME.
26:27I WAS SCOUTING PRETTY MUCH ALL THE TIME.
26:29I THINK HE ENJOYED THE ATTENTION THAT THE LAKERS GAVE HIM.
26:34JIMMY LIKED BEING RECOGNIZED.
26:37NOW HE COULD DATE ANY GIRL IN LOS ANGELES.
26:42HE COULD GET INTO ANY CLUB IN LOS ANGELES.
26:45JIMMY LIVED A DIFFERENT LIFE THAN I DID.
26:47GO TO CLUBS AFTER HOURS.
26:50JIMMY SAID, I DON'T THINK PHIL LIKES ME.
26:53I LEFT HIM BEHIND SOMETIMES.
26:54HE WAS OUT TOO LATE AT NIGHT.
26:56COULDN'T MAKE IT TO THE BUS ON TIME.
26:58IT WAS ONE TIME, AND I WAS STANDING WHEN THE BUS STARTED TO DRIVE AWAY.
27:03I JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY WE OPERATE AS AN ORGANIZATION, YOU GOT TO BE PART OF WHAT WE DO.
27:08AND THIS IS HOW WE LIVE ON THE ROAD.
27:11YOU GO ON FOUR HOURS OF SLEEP, YOU GET FOUR HOURS OF SLEEP.
27:14I'M NOT SURE IF JIMMY FELT COMFORTABLE, YOU KNOW, HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE LIKE PHIL JACKSON.
27:20AND UNDERSTANDINGLY SO, RIGHT?
27:22PHIL WANTS CHAMPIONSHIPS, HE'S PLAYED IN THE NBA TEN YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE THE OWNER'S SON.
27:28HOW ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO FEEL COMFORTABLE?
27:30I WAS SITTING IN A MEETING WITH MITCH, MY DAD, PHIL JACKSON.
27:35THEY ASKED A QUESTION, AND I STUMBLED.
27:39AND AFTER THAT, MY DAD SAID, YOU ARE NOT READY UNLESS YOU CAN ANSWER THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS FLUENTLY.
27:47I THOUGHT I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE MITCH KUPCHECK IN BASKETBALL OR ANYBODY ELSE,
27:53BUT IT TURNED OUT I WASN'T, AND THAT MADE ME JUST STUDY THAT MUCH HARDER.
27:58IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYTHING WAS OKAY WITH JIMMY BECAUSE MY DAD STILL HAD HIM UNDER HIS WING.
28:05IT WAS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED, YOU KNOW, GENIE RISING UP IN THE BUSINESS, JIMMY RISING UP IN THE PLAYER SIDE OF THINGS.
28:13I OVERSAW TICKETING, BROADCAST, SPONSORSHIP, AND JIM OVERSAW PLAYERS, COACHES, TRADES.
28:21SO I'M ON THE SIDE OF PRODUCING REVENUE, AND THE BASKETBALL SIDE'S ON THE SIDE OF SPENDING REVENUE.
28:29EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE CLIMBING TOGETHER, GENIE WAS GETTING INFORMATION FROM ELSEWHERE.
28:35AS FAR AS THE BASKETBALL OPERATIONS, I REALLY DIDN'T GET MUCH FEEDBACK FROM HER UNTIL PHIL JACKSON CAME INVOLVED.
28:45PHIL JACKSON HAD HER EAR ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITH THE TEAM.
28:49IT KIND OF SEPARATED JIMMY AND GENIE.
28:56SHAK AND KOLBY, AND THE REST OF THE LAKERS KNOWS THAT IT'S OVER.
29:02THE NEXT YEAR, THEY LOST THAT PLAYOFF SERIES.
29:06JUST THE WEIGHT AND THE GRIND OF GOING TO THE FINALS THREE STRAIGHT YEARS CAUGHT UP WITH THEM.
29:12YOU SEE THE SADNESS ON THE FACES BECAUSE THEY HAD SOMETHING SPECIAL AND IT WAS OVER.
29:18BUT THEN THEY RELOADED WITH GARY PAYTON AND CARL MALONE.
29:21SO NOW IT'S BACK TO, OH, THIS TEAM IS GOING TO BE BACK IN THE FINALS AGAIN.
29:26I WAS GETTING OLDER, 14TH YEAR.
29:29I SAID, WHERE SHOULD I GO?
29:31IS THIS GOING TO MAKE MY LEGACY TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP?
29:34AND THEN THAT CALL CAME FROM MY LITTLE BROTHER, SHAK.
29:39BRO, YOU ABOUT TO BE A FREE AGENT.
29:44COME ON OVER HERE AND LET ME GET YOU ONE OF THESE CHIPS.
29:47AND THEN ME AND CARL HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PLAYING TOGETHER.
29:52CARL MALONE WAS, HE WAS A LAKER BUSTER.
29:56LIKE, CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET THIS GUY ON THE TEAM?
29:59GARY PAYTON, SAME THING.
30:01YOU KNOW, HE JUST, JUST WOULD CRUSH US.
30:04DR. BUSS BUILT THE WAY TO GET BOTH OF US.
30:07I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE DR. JERRY BUSS, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER OF THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS, AND OF COURSE THE BUSS FAMILY.
30:15ME AND CARL, WE WERE STILL DOING THINGS.
30:18YOU KNOW, WE WERE STILL GOOD.
30:20EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT IT.
30:21WE WAS GOING TO BE SPECIAL.
30:23THEM TWO KIDS WAS PHENOMENAL.
30:25THEY WERE GREAT.
30:26AND THEY WERE JUST STARTING TO ROLE.
30:28AND THEN ALL, ALL, EVERYTHING BROKE, BROKE APART.
30:38EARLIER TODAY, CHARGES WERE FILED AGAINST KOBE BEAN-BRYANT WITH ONE COUNT OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.
30:47I THINK I WAS AT THE BEVERLEY CENTER.
30:49AND I WAS LIKE, NAH.
30:52ARE YOU SURE?
30:54DID YOU CALL HIM?
30:56YEAH, BUT IMPOSSIBLE TO GET THROUGH AT THAT TIME.
31:02I LEFT THE LAKERS IN 2003.
31:04BUT I CALLED HIM AND LEFT HIM A LONG MESSAGE AND HOPED THAT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, TURNED OUT WELL FOR HIM.
31:12HE CALLED ME.
31:13I JUST REMEMBER, HE WAS JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT TRUE, RIGHT, RICK?
31:17I SAID, BUT I KNOW.
31:19AND SO I WAS CONCERNED FOR HIM.
31:21HE WAS SUPER UPSET BECAUSE HE FELT, YOU KNOW, HE FELT MISREPRESENTED AND MISUNDERSTANDED.
31:25AFTER THREE MONTHS OF SECLUSION, COBY BRYANT TOLD REPORTERS HOW HE'S REALLY FEELING.
31:31ARE YOU SCARED?
31:33TERRIFIED.
31:34NOT SO MUCH FOR MYSELF, BUT JUST FOR WHAT MY FAMILY'S BEEN GOING THROUGH.
31:39ONE THING WE NOTICED, SHAK WASN'T PARTICULARLY SUPPORTIVE PUBLICLY AT THAT TIME OR PRIVATELY.
31:49SOME THINGS WERE SAID THAT GOT BACK TO SHAK THAT COBY HAD MENTIONED TO THE COPS.
31:57THERE'S A STREET CODE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T BRING ANYBODY ELSE'S NAME INTO IT.
32:03AND SO THEREIN LIES THE TENSION THAT CAME AFTER.
32:08MOST OF THE SEASON, MY ROOKIE YEAR, WE WERE ON EDGE.
32:12YOU KNOW, PART OF IT WAS LIKE SHAK'S TEAM, COBY'S TEAM, PART OF IT IS WHAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH.
32:20BUT AS IT GAINED MORE POWER AND MORE COVERAGE IN THE MEDIA, THEN IT AFFECTED OUR LOCKER ROOM MORE.
32:29THE LAKERS' OFF-SEASON STARTED WITH THE BUDGET-FRIENDLY ADDITIONS OF FUTURE HALL OF FAMERS,
32:34CARL MALONE AND GARY PAYTON, AND TALKS OF A 70-PLUS WIN SEASON.
32:38NOW THE LAKERS HAVE A RECURRING PROBLEM TO TEND TO, THE ON-AGAIN, NOW OFF-AGAIN RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN COBY AND SHAKIEL O'NEAL.
32:45THEY HAD REACHED A CERTAIN IMPASSES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, BEFORE THE FIRST GAME.
32:50THE LATEST IN THEIR LONG LINE OF RIFTS CAME AFTER SHAKIEL O'NEAL SUGGESTED THAT COBY BRYANT SHOULD PASS MORE UNTIL HIS LEGS GET STRONGER.
32:58BRYANT SAID HE DIDN'T NEED ADVICE ON HOW TO PLAY HIS POSITION.
33:02TO WHICH SHAK RESPONDED, I'M NOT TELLING HIM HOW TO PLAY HIS POSITION, I'M TELLING HIM HOW TO PLAY TEAM BALL.
33:08PHIL SAID, THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.
33:11I'LL TAKE SHAK AND SAID, MITCH, YOU TAKE COBY.
33:13AND WE JUST GOT TO SAY THAT YOU CAN'T BE CRUSHING EACH OTHER IN THE PRESS.
33:16I MEAN, THAT'S NOT HOW TEAMMATES OPERATE.
33:18YOU KNOW, IF IT CONTINUES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND YOU.
33:21WE SAID WE NEED TO SAY AS A TEAM, AND THEN WE GO OUT AND WE HANDLE IT LIKE PROFESSIONAL ATHLETEES.
33:26SO I DID SAY IT TO COBY, YEAH.
33:28AND HE KNOTTED HIS HEAD, AND I SAID, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
33:31HE GOES, I UNDERSTAND.
33:32AND ON HIS WAY HOME, HE CALLED THE WRITER.
33:36OUR JIM GRAY JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH COBY, WHO APPARENTLY HAS RESPONDED TO SHAKHIL AGAIN.
33:42WELL, MIKE, HE HAS AN AWFUL LOT TO SAY.
33:44AS FAR AS SHAKHIL O'NEAL, COBY SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER WHOSE TEAM IT IS.
33:47NOBODY CARES.
33:48BUT SINCE IT IS HIS TEAM, NO MORE COMING INTO CAMP FATTEN OUT OF SHAPE.
33:53IF LEAVING THE LAKERS AT THE END OF THE SEASON IS WHAT I DECIDE TO DO, A MAJOR REASON FOR THAT WILL BE SHAKHILD-LIKE SELFISHNESS AND JEALOUSY.
34:03I ASKED PHIL TO SAY SOMETHING TO CALM THE SITUATION DOWN BEFORE IT BOILED OVER.
34:08BUT HE BACKED AWAY.
34:09SO NOW HERE WE ARE.
34:12I WAS IN OAKLAND AT HOME.
34:14I GOT A CALL FROM DEVIN GEORGE.
34:16AND HE SAID SHAKH HAD TOLD SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS ON THE TEAM,
34:20WHEN COBY GETS TO PRACTICE TOMORROW, I'M GOING TO BEAT HIS ASS.
34:23IT WAS ON.
34:24BE SHAKH WAS OFF THE TEAM, BUT HE STILL COULD TELL EACH AND EVERY PERSON WHAT IT WAS TO THEIR FACE.
34:32AND SO I'M LIKE, BE, YOU NEED TO COME DOWN, MAN. THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND.
34:36SO WE BROUGHT ALL THESE VETERANS IN, AND WE HASHED IT OUT.
34:41IT FELT LIKE IT WAS, UH, IT COULD HAVE BEEN WORLD WAR III.
34:47AT THE TIME, I REMEMBER GETTING THE ASSIGNMENT FROM MY EDITOR, AND HE JUST SAID,
34:50I NEED YOU TO CALL SOME LEGAL EXPERTS AND FIND OUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO PLAY OUT,
34:54AND WHAT IS THIS, WHAT'S NEXT, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE WERE ALL ALMOST SHOCKED,
34:57LIKE, OH, COBY MIGHT HAVE TO MISS TIME AS HE GOES THROUGH FREE TRIAL ALLOCATION.
35:01I MEAN, HE'LL HAVE TO FLY BACK AND FORTH TO COLORADO.
35:03THESE WERE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE WERE TRYING TO ANSWER.
35:06IT'S A BIG NIGHT.
35:08FIRST TIME THAT COBY HAS PLAYED A PRE-SEASON GAME, AND THIS IS HIS REFUGE.
35:14HE HAS SHOWN A VERY CALM DEMEANOR SO FAR.
35:19WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR REACTION TO THE RECEPTION THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED IN THE ARENAS ACROSS AMERICA?
35:25YOU KNOW, I TRY TO BLOCK IT OUT. I TRY NOT TO HAVE A REACTION.
35:30LIKE I SAID, I GO INTO ARENAS JUST, YOU KNOW, ANTICIPATING THE WORST.
35:34I GET CALLS ON OUR RADIO SHOW, PEOPLE SCREAMING AT ME SAYING, HOW CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT THIS GUY?
35:39BRYANT WAS BOOED LOUDLY BY THE AUDIENCE.
35:42HE'S BEING THE BLAME FOR BREAKING THE TEAM UP.
35:45YOU CAN'T HELP BUT OVERHEAR FANS BOOING OR WHATEVER, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DO MY BEST TO BLOCK IT OUT.
35:52AND WELCOME BACK TO, ONCE AGAIN, A SOLD OUT STAPLE CENTER 18,997 FOR A MATCH UP BETWEEN THE LAKERS AND THE DENVER NUGGETS.
36:02WHEN I GOT DRAFTED IN 03, EVERYBODY WAS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW COBE WAS GOING TO PLAY, WHAT'S HE GOING TO PLAY, WHAT GAMES HE WAS GOING TO SIT OUT.
36:09NOW THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE STARTING LINEUP. COBE'S STATUS FOR TONIGHT IS STILL IN QUESTION.
36:14BEFORE THE GAME, HE WASN'T ON THE SCOUT REPORT, AND FIRST HALF IS GONE, HE COMES IN.
36:21THIS WAS A SCENE HERE AT STAPLE CENTER JUST MOMENTS AGO.
36:25HE WALKS TO THE TEAM'S BENCH, YOU KNOW, READY TO GO, NOT STRETCHING, NOT WARMING UP, JUST COMING.
36:30AND DIDN'T PLAY WELL, BUT HE WINDED UP HITTING LIKE A BIG SHOT AT THE END.
36:35COBE'S GONNA GO, HAPPY THE LEFT HAND, HE DRIBBLES, HAS A LOOK AT THE END.
36:39THE LIKERS WIN!
36:42THIS MAN IS GOING THROUGH SO MUCH SHIT OFF THE COURT.
36:46HE FLEW IN FROM A COURT CASE.
36:48AND THE FACT THAT HE PLAYED AND AT THE END OF THE GAME, HIT THE GAME WITH A SHOT OR WHATEVER,
36:53SAID A LOT ABOUT HIS MENTAL AND HIS PERSEVERANCE AS A PERSON.
36:57THIS KID IS INCREDIBLY TOUGH.
37:00HE'S JUST TOUGHER THAN ANY OF THE OTHER ATHLETES, MENTALLY AS WELL AS PHYSICALLY.
37:07IT'S JUST BEEN AMAZING FOR US TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY BACK.
37:11BASKETBALL HERE.
37:13AND IT'S BEEN EVEN MORE AMAZING TO WIN BACK-TO-BACK CHAMPIONSHIPS.
37:17THANKS FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
37:20WE'RE GOING INTO YEAR 7.
37:21IT FEELS GREAT.
37:22IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
37:23HERE I HAD BEEN AN IMPORTANT PART OF ALL THE GROWTH OF THE SPARKS.
37:29BUT IT JUST SEEMED LIKE, GOSH, IT JUST WASN'T GOING RIGHT.
37:33THINGS WERE GETTING OFF BALANCE.
37:35MY DAD WORRIED ABOUT THE TOLL IT WOULD TAKE ON JOHNNY BECAUSE HE KNEW HOW HARD IT WAS.
37:44YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES BEHIND RUNNING AN ORGANIZATION.
37:47AND THE WNBA STARTED GROWING A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TAKING A BIGGER HOLD.
37:52SO THAT REQUIRED HIM TO SPEND MORE TIME.
37:55AND I THINK PROBABLY THE DAY-TO-DAY WEAR AND CARE OF THE BUSINESS PROBABLY KIND OF GOT TO HIM.
38:00IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT BRING BACK ALL THE MEMORIES.
38:03YOU KNOW, BACK THEN I HAD A HARD TIME WITH THE LASERS AND WORKING WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
38:09AND SO IT WAS JUST BETTER OFF THAT I BACKED AWAY.
38:17IT WAS ANOTHER DAY IN THE OFFICE KIND OF THING WITH JOHN LEAVING THE SPARKS.
38:24I THOUGHT HE WAS DOING SUCH A FANTASTIC JOB WITH IT.
38:27WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS.
38:30BUT, YOU KNOW, HE HAS HIS OWN FOUGHT PATTERN.
38:34I TOOK TIME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MY PLACE IS, NOT ONLY IN THE FAMILY BUSINESS, BUT IN LIFE ITSELF.
38:40AND I JUST FELT LIKE IT'S NOT MY PLACE.
38:45AND I WENT TO MY DAD AND I SAID, IT'S TIME TO GO.
38:48AND HE SAID, WELL, LET'S SELL IT.
38:50LET'S JUST SELL IT.
38:52AND THAT WAS THE END OF JOHNNY'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE FAMILY BUSINESS.
38:57COBE, YOU'VE ELECTED TOPPED OUT OF YOUR CONTRACT AT THE END OF THE SEASON.
39:04CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY?
39:06WELL, I'VE NEVER REALLY BEEN A FREE AGENT BEFORE.
39:09SO, UM, UM, I'D KIND OF LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S OUT THERE.
39:13AS MUCH AS THE ALLEGATIONS WERE HANGING OVER THE SEASON, COBE'S FREE AGENCY WAS HANGING OVER THE SEASON, TOO.
39:20IF HE DIDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE, IF THINGS WEREN'T MADE TO HIS LIKING, HE HAD THE FREEDOM TO WALK AWAY.
39:27SO, UM, PLAYING WITH SHAK HAS GIVEN ME CHAMPIONSHIP RINGS.
39:30BUT INDIVIDUALLY, UH, I CAN DO WHAT I DO INDIVIDUALLY ON, ON ANY TEAM.
39:37I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS.
39:39DO YOU THINK THEY'LL BE A PART OF YOU AT ONE POINT TO SAY, I'LL SHOW THEM.
39:44I'LL BE ON A TEAM WITHOUT THE BIG FELLA.
39:47YOU KNOW HOW I AM AS FAR AS MY COMPETITIVENESS AND RESPONDING TO CHALLENGES.
39:53IF I WANTED TO RESPOND TO THAT CHALLENGE, IT'S DEFINITELY A URGE.
39:56COBE SAID TO ME, I WANT TO DO THIS WITHOUT A DOMINANT BIG MAN.
40:03HE DIDN'T SAY TO ME BECAUSE MICHAEL DID IT, BUT I KNOW.
40:06MICHAEL WAS THE GOAL STANDARD FOR COBE.
40:10YOU KNOW, WE FOUND OUT LATER THAT ON SUPER BOWL SUNDAY, COBE HAD GONE TO MEET WITH JERRY BUS.
40:17AT NO TIME DID COBE AND I DISCUSS WHETHER HE WOULD COME BACK BASED ON SHAK OR PHIL.
40:26I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COBE GAVE HIM AN ULTIMATUM.
40:30I THINK THAT WAS JERRY BUS'S UNDERSTANDING.
40:34AND THEN RIGHT BEFORE THE ALL-STAR BREAK, THE LAKERS FORMALLY ANNOUNCED THAT CONTRACT EXTENSION TALKS WITH PHIL JACKSON ARE OFF THE TABLE.
40:45YOU USED THE WORDS PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR BETWEEN YOU AND COBE.
40:49ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY CHANGED OUR RELATIONSHIP IN THE LAST YEAR WAS THAT THERE WERE SOME HEATED WORDS.
40:55I ACTUALLY SAID TO COBE THAT IT'S TOO DESTRUCTIVE TO HAVE THAT VITRIOLIC HOT FLOW COMING OUT OF YOU TOWARDS ME BECAUSE IT UNDERMINES WHAT THE TEAM HAS TO DO.
41:07AND AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, I REALIZED THAT OUR RELATIONSHIP HAD DISINTEGRATED.
41:11WHAT HAPPENED WHEN YOU WENT TO SEE MITCH KUPCHAK IN LATE JANUARY?
41:15THE ESSENCE OF WHAT I SAID IS I DON'T THINK I CAN COACH COBE ANYMORE. I CAN'T REACH HIM.
41:20AND IF YOU WANT ME TO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS BALL CLUB, THEN THE CHANGE HAS TO BE MADE.
41:25AND IF YOU WANT COBE ON THIS BALL CLUB, THEN I HAVE TO GO.
41:29YOU'RE THE COACH. YOU FIGURE IT OUT.
41:32AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT, I'LL FIND SOMEBODY ELSE TO DO IT.
41:35BUT IF IT COMES DOWN TO COBE OR YOU, I'M KEEPING COBE.
41:40WILL BOND, WILL THEY LOSE PHIL JACKSON?
41:42YES.
41:43AND WILL SHAK ASK OUT?
41:47SHAK FAMOUSLY SAID TO MY DAD, YOU KNOW, SHOW ME THE MONEY.
41:52YEAH, THAT WAS NOT A GOOD MOMENT.
41:55IT JUST ADDED MORE STRESS TO THE SITUATION.
41:58I THINK HE WAS KIND OF NOT JOKING BUT JOKING BUT NOT.
42:02I'M A BUSINESSMAN. YOU'RE NOT GONNA PAY ME 120 AND THEN COME BACK AND PAY ME 80 WHEN I'M WORTH 200.
42:08LOOK, A LOT OF STUFF WAS GOING ON THERE. A LOT.
42:12COBE HAD A SITUATION THAT WAS GOING ON THAT WAS STILL OVERRIDING HIS CAREER.
42:21EVERYTHING THAT PORTENDED FOR FAILURE OR FOR LOSS HAPPENED.
42:27AND STILL, HERE WE WERE IN THE FINALS.
42:30THE RUMORS THAT WERE GOING AROUND ABOUT PHIL WASN'T COMING BACK, SHAK WASN'T COMING BACK.
42:37IT WAS A REAL DISTRACTION FOR THE TEAM.
42:40AND WAS REALLY UNDERMINING TO PHIL AND TRYING TO GET THE TEAM FOCUSED SO THAT WE COULD WIN THAT CHAMPIONSHIP.
42:49BUT INSTEAD, IT JUST ALL FELL APART.
42:52ALL OF THE SHENANIGANS HAD DRAINED EVERYBODY TO A POINT WHERE I FELT WE WALKED IN AS A TOTALLY SPENT TEAM.
43:02WELL, I THINK MOST OF US THOUGHT THE LAKERS WOULD SWEEP THE PISTONS.
43:05MAYBE THE PISTONS WOULD TAKE ONE GAME OFF THEM.
43:07AND THE EXACT OPPOSITE HAPPENED.
43:09THE LAKERS WON ONE GAME.
43:12I WAS ON TOUR IN EUROPE, AND I'D GO FIND A SPORTS BAR THAT WAS OPEN AT 4 IN THE MORNING, AND WATCH THE GAME, AND THEY WOULD LOSE.
43:21I REMEMBER JUST, LIKE, WALKING BACK TO THE HOTEL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THREE-MILLE WALK BACK, BECAUSE THERE'S NO CAPS.
43:26AND I'M TIRED, AND THE FUCKING LAKERS LOST TO THE PISTONS.
43:31IT COMINATED IN SEVERE DISAPPOINTMENT.
43:42I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT PERHAPS WE'RE A BETTER TEAM THAN WE SHOWED IN THE FINALS.
43:49WAS THIS PROBABLY YOUR LAST GAME AS A LAKER?
43:52UM, I DON'T KNOW.
43:55UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WAIT TO THE SUMMER TO FIND OUT.
44:00MAYBE LOSING THIS ONE, THIS OPPORTUNITY, IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO SAY THAT IT'S TIME TO GIVE IT UP.
44:08TO LOSE THAT SERIES TO DETROIT WAS KIND OF THE END OF THE LINE, AND EVERYBODY COULD FEEL IT.
44:18MY DAD TOLD PHIL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO TRADE SHAK.
44:23AND PHIL SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE MISTAKE.
44:27AND MY DAD SAID, WELL, IT REALLY WON'T MATTER TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT COMING BACK.
44:34I THINK BASKETBALL COACHES ARE EFFECTIVE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. I REALLY DO.
44:41THAT WHOLE SITUATION JUST RAN ITS COURSE, AND IT WAS TIME TO START FRESH.
44:47BUT YOU'RE A NINE-TIME CHAMPIONSHIP-WINNING COACH.
44:51YOU'RE NOT JUST ANY COACH.
44:53HOW COULD THAT DECISION HAVE BEEN MADE TO CHOOSE KOBE OVER THAT COACH?
44:57YOU KNOW, I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR DR. BUS. I HAVE RESPECT FOR HIS DECISION.
45:03I UNDERSTAND HIS DECISION.
45:06IF YOU'D HAVE WON THAT CHAMPIONSHIP AGAINST DETROIT, WOULD YOU HAVE MADE THE SAME CHANGE?
45:10I THINK IN PHIL'S CASE, I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE RETIRED ANYWAY.
45:14PHIL CAME HOME AND OPENED A BOTTLE OF CHAMPAGNE AND SAID HE WAS RELIEVED HE WASN'T GOING TO HAVE TO COME BACK.
45:27DRINK A BOTTLE OF CHAMPAGNE AND THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT A GREAT TIME WE'D HAD FOR THOSE FIVE YEARS.
45:34AND WHAT A DIFFERENCE IT WAS GOING TO MAKE IN OUR LIVES.
45:38JEANNIE AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I'M NOT HERE WITH THIS ORGANIZATION, YOU KNOW, SHE IS.
45:43SHE'S GOING TO BE HERE.
45:45GETTING INVOLVED WITH A PLAYER OR COACH, YOU COULD GET TRAIDED.
45:49YOU MIGHT NOT SIGN BACK.
45:51I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S PART OF THE JOB.
45:54THERE WASN'T THAT COMPASSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE MAN I'M IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH JUST LOST HIS JOB.
46:02LIKE, HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?
46:04YOU KNOW, ARE YOU OKAY?
46:06I ALWAYS KNEW THAT WHEN I STARTED DATING PHIL SIX YEARS AGO, THAT THERE WOULD BE A DAY WHERE HE WOULD LEAVE
46:12THE LAKERS, WAS HE STILL GOING TO LIVE IN LOS ANGELES?
46:15I KNEW I COULD ONLY LIVE IN LOS ANGELES.
46:17WAS HE GOING TO MOVE TO MONTANA?
46:19WAS HE GOING TO TAKE ANOTHER JOB?
46:22I WAS GETTING FLASHBACKS OF WHAT IT WAS LIKE WHEN MY HUSBAND WAS PLAYING VOLLEYBALL IN ITALY,
46:28AND HOW HARD IT WAS TO KEEP MY CAREER GOING.
46:34THINGS WEREN'T GOING TO LAST FOREVER, AND THIS WAS THE TIME THAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO, YOU KNOW,
46:40JUST KIND OF FIGURE OUT MY LIFE.
46:56USUALLY WHEN, UH, SOMETHING HAPPENS, LIKE THE FIRING OF A COACH, I WOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
47:02BUT I WAKE UP, AND I TURN ON ESPN LIKE I ALWAYS DO.
47:06DA-NA-NA, DA-NA-NA, PHIL JACKSON FIRED HIS LAKER COACH.
47:10I'M LIKE, NO, THAT AIN'T TRUE.
47:12SO I CALLED ME AND SAID, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON?
47:14YEAH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CHANGE.
47:15I SAID, YOU GONNA GET RID OF THE MAN?
47:17THAT TOOK US TO THE FINALS, FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE YEARS OF ALL THE STUFF HE HAD TO GO THROUGH.
47:26IN THE SPRING OF 2004, WE TRIED TO EXTEND SHAQUIL, AND WE DIDN'T GET TO THE NUMBER THAT HE WANTED TO GET TO.
47:35HE MADE IT CLEAR TO US DURING HIS NEGOTIATION THAT UNLESS WE PAID HIM THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY,
47:41FOR THE MAXIMUM TERM HE WANTED TO BE TRADED.
47:46YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET PAID MORE.
47:50YOU START TO LOOK AT A LOSING PROPOSITION, SO YOU HAVE TO SOMETIMES BLOW IT UP.
47:57WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS, TRADE ME, THEY'RE SAYING, LISTEN, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PART OUR WAYS.
48:04AND, UH, YOU HAVE TO TRADE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY'RE NOT TRADEABLE.
48:12WHEN YOU START TO HEAR THE SUGGESTION THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE SAYING THAT YOU'RE OLD, SLOW, WEAK, HOW DO YOU TAKE THAT?
48:19OF COURSE I'M SLOWER AND WEAKER, BUT I'M STILL ME. I'M STILL DIESEL.
48:24I MEAN, LET'S FACE IT, DR. BUS, THE LAKERS GOT THE BEST YEARS FROM SHAQUIL. THEY DEFINITELY DID.
48:31I GUESS THEY WANTED TO SPEND ON THE YOUNG GUY. AND, UH, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE OLD GUY.
48:39I FIGURE THEY WOULD GET RID OF ME FIRST.
48:41WHY YOU FIRST?
48:43BECAUSE HE'S THEIR GUY. HE'S THE YOUNGER, ENERGETIC, MORE ATHLETIC. HE'S THE FUTURE, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
48:52AND I UNDERSTOOD THAT. I DON'T TAKE NOTHING PERSONAL, MAN.
48:56MR. BUS CALLED ME, SAID, HEY, MAN, I LOVE YOU.
49:00I UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE LESS MONEY. MIAMI IS INTERESTING YOU. OKAY, I'LL GO TO MIAMI. THANK YOU, SIR.
49:07COOL WITH ME. BUSINESS THE BEST WELL.
49:10DO YOU HAVE ANY REGRETS HAVING TRADED SHAQUIL?
49:13NONE. I MEAN, THAT'S A FRANCHISE DECISION DONE, IN MY OPINION, FOR THE BEST, UH, HEALTH OF THE FRANCHISE.
49:23I THINK HE TOOK IT MORE PERSONALLY THAN IT WAS INTENDED.
49:27I CERTAINLY KNEW THAT TRADING SHAQUIL, WE WERE GOING TO TAKE OUR LUMPS, OR AT LEAST I WAS.
49:33AND I ALSO KNEW THAT COBE WAS A FREE AGENT. AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WELL, WHAT IF HE GOES TOO?
49:37RIGHT? YOU KNOW, MY FOURTH YEAR AS A GM, IT COULD BE, THIS COULD BE IT, RIGHT?
49:42COULD BE ALL SHE WROTE.
49:49WE WANT TO GET YOU CAUGHT OFF RIGHT NOW IN THE LATEST BREAKING NEWS FROM THE COBY BRYANT CASE.
49:52THE CRIMINAL CASE AGAINST HIM APPEARS TO BE OVER.
49:56I UNDERSTAND WE EXPECTED TO SEE A CIVIL TRIAL IN THE CASE, BUT IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
50:01BOTH SIDES HAVE REACHED A CIVIL SETTLEMENT. THE CASE IS NOW COMPLETELY OVER.
50:06COBY PHIL JACKSON HAS LEFT THE ORGANIZATION AND SHAQUIL O'NEAL.
50:12IT'S A WIDE-RANGING PERCEPTION IN THE PUBLIC THAT YOU WERE AT THE CONTROLS.
50:16HOW MUCH DID YOU HAVE TO DO WITH BOTH OF THEIR DEPARTURES?
50:20OH, ZERO. NOTHING. BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S PERCEPTION ALWAYS WANT TO RUN WITH THE BIGGEST STORY.
50:26YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, OH, HIM AND SHAQ DIDN'T GET ALONG, SO, YOU KNOW, SHAQ'S LEAVING.
50:31HE'S NOT HAPPY THERE, SO COBY MUST HAVE RAN HIM OUT. IT'S NOT TRUE.
50:35I MEAN, WE HAD EIGHT OVERALL GOOD YEARS TOGETHER. AND WE HAD OUR ROCKY TIMES.
50:40AND WE HAD OUR SHARE OF ARGUMENTS. BUT WE WERE ABLE TO WIN THREE TITLES.
50:44AND, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'VE GONE SEPARATE WAYS.
50:50BUT, ULTIMATELY, I'M HAPPY TO BE PLAYING FOR THE LAKERS. THIS IS A HAPPY DAY.
50:55IN ORDER TO BE THE GODFATHER OF US IN CHARGE, YOU GOTTA TAKE HIM OUT.
50:59SO, WHEN I GOT TRAIDED, KID, IT'S... HE FINALLY GETS WHAT HE WANTS.
51:06HE'S BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MOMENT SINCE HE'S 18.
51:11I'M TIRED OF BEING IN THE SHADOW OF PEOPLE. IT'S ALL HIS.
51:16HOBY BOY!
51:17WE JUST CHECKED BACK IN.
51:19FEEDBACK IN.
51:26SO, I'M GOING TO BRING A CHAMPIONSHIP TO MIAMI, I PROMISE.
51:28A LOT OF PEOPLE PULLY THOUGHT I WOULD BE DOING THIS INTERVIEW AND TAKING SHOTS.
51:33NO.
51:34DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DO CERTAIN THINGS TO GET THAT POWER.
51:40Il faut qu'il y ait ce pouvoir.
51:42Il faut qu'il y ait ce que vous souhaitez.
51:45Tu as dit.
51:47Je suis ici en L.A.
51:48Je dois essayer de faire le meilleur job que je peux.
51:50Il est en Miami, il doit le meilleur job que je peux.
51:52Et je souhaite lui le meilleur.
51:54Et je ne sais pas ce qu'il y a le 25e.
54:509.2 now in the game.
54:52That's right.
54:53It's coming down to the last play.
54:55Timeout's called.
54:56Kobe's running the huddle.
54:59We had a new coach, Rudy Tomjanovich,
55:03and Kobe says,
55:05we're going to run the what the F play.
55:08So I called Phil.
55:10He was in New Zealand,
55:12and I said,
55:13you won't believe it,
55:14but Kobe called the what the F play.
55:17It's an expression for a play
55:19that we run at the end of the game.
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