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00:01From 30 Rockefeller Plaza in New York,
00:04it's Late Night with Seth Meyers.
00:07Tonight, Jonathan Bailey.
00:10Star of A Man on the Inside, actress Mary Steenburgen.
00:13An all-new closer look.
00:20And now, Seth Meyers.
00:23Good evening, everybody. I'm Seth Meyers.
00:25It's late night. We hope you're doing well.
00:27And now, if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news.
00:29The Senate unanimously passed a bill last night
00:31ordering the Justice Department to release the Epstein files
00:34and sent the legislation to President Trump's desk.
00:38We'll see what happens, but I find it hard to believe
00:40that the guy who signed this is going to sign that.
00:46It's like, well, this is a real full-circle moment.
00:50President Trump held a black-tie dinner last night
00:53in honor of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman,
00:56and the menu included honey nut squash soup
00:59with cranberry relish, spiced hazelnuts,
01:01broccoli rabe, and I'm guessing one grilled cheese?
01:07At the same dinner, President Trump said
01:09he has more than three and a quarter years left in office
01:12and added, quote,
01:13for the Trump, that's like an eternity.
01:15Oh, buddy, not just for the Trump.
01:19That's an eternity for the Myers, too.
01:24I would rather spend three and a quarter years
01:27stuck in an elevator with a ventriloquist
01:29and two of my exes.
01:31President Trump claimed yesterday
01:38that some state governments
01:39are trying to embed DEI ideology into AI models
01:43to produce, excuse me, woke AI
01:46and added, quote,
01:47remember black George Washington?
01:50What?
01:51Oh, wait, does he think AI wrote Hamilton?
01:56While speaking today of the U.S.-Saudi Investment Forum,
01:59President Trump acknowledged his daughter Tiffany
02:01and complained that her Georgetown University graduation
02:04got canceled due to COVID.
02:06Yeah, I'm sure you were real upset to miss that one.
02:09I wouldn't be surprised
02:10if you released the Wuhan bat yourself.
02:14Wuhan bat.
02:15We hardly ever talk about the old Wuhan bat anymore.
02:18Hello, old friend.
02:21While speaking on Monday
02:22at the McDonald's Impact Summit
02:23of franchise owners and suppliers,
02:26President Trump bragged
02:27that he got Health and Human Services Secretary
02:29Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to eat a Big Mac.
02:32All he had to do was run it over with his car first.
02:37A New Jersey zoo recently opened
02:39a new medical treatment room
02:40with large windows
02:42so that visitors can observe veterinarians
02:44treating exotic animals.
02:46Great.
02:46Now he's even less likely to get his prostate checked.
02:54Duncan recently released a new children's book
02:56to benefit the Duncan Joy and Childhood Foundation
02:59that follows one tiny munchkin donut hole treat
03:02on a journey of belonging and joy
03:04all the way from its birth in a bakery
03:07to its death in a gas station toilet.
03:10There's this little guy.
03:19I should have said spoiler alert.
03:23The head of the Louvre Museum announced yesterday
03:28they will install 100 new surveillance cameras
03:30and have them running by the end of the year,
03:32and I'm being told someone just stole the cameras.
03:34An Idaho man recently broke the Guinness World Record
03:40for most bowling balls carried on a unicycle
03:42as well as the record for most shattered pelvis.
03:47Good job.
03:47Poor Yorma.
03:48Yorma had it for...
03:49And finally, Taco Bell is set this week
03:52to launch its new fan-style menu,
03:54which features three new menu items
03:56that were selected by customers.
03:57The items are Pepto-Bismol,
03:59Amodium Aene,
03:59and Tums.
04:01And that was a monologue, everybody.
04:04We got a great show for you tonight.
04:06He's a fantastic actor.
04:08You know from Bridgerton,
04:09Fellow Travelers,
04:10and Jurassic World Rebirth.
04:11Currently, he's starring in Wicked for Good,
04:13which will be in theaters at IMAX on November 21st.
04:16One of our favorites,
04:16Jonathan Bailey,
04:17is back on the show, you guys.
04:20She's an outstanding actress.
04:22You know from The Last Man on Earth,
04:24as well as films like Elf,
04:25Step Brothers,
04:26and Parenthood.
04:27She stars in A Man on the Inside,
04:28which kicks off its second season,
04:30November 20th, on Netflix.
04:32Our friend Mary Steenburgen
04:34is also joining us.
04:36Before we get to all that,
04:39Donald Trump lost his months-long battle
04:41to stop the release of the Epstein files on Tuesday
04:43when Congress passed a bill
04:45forcing the Justice Department
04:47to make them public.
04:48So now, Trump is doing a 180.
04:50He says he'll sign the bill
04:51that forces him to release the files
04:53he could have released on his own,
04:55but wouldn't, thus requiring a bill
04:57to force him to do the thing
04:58he didn't want to do,
05:00which he will now be forced to do
05:01because of the bill he was against
05:03that he will now sign.
05:05It makes sense to me,
05:06and for more on this,
05:07it's time for A Closer Look.
05:12You guys,
05:13Donald Trump wants you to know,
05:14he's not mad at all
05:16about this Epstein bill passing.
05:18He's actually very cool with it.
05:19House Republicans should vote
05:21to release the Epstein files
05:22because we have nothing to hide,
05:24and it's time to move on
05:25from this Democrat hoax
05:26perpetrated by radical-left lunatics
05:28in order to deflect
05:30from the great success
05:31of the Republican Party,
05:32including our recent victory
05:33on the Democrat shutdown.
05:35Now, farther down, he adds,
05:37and the House Oversight Committee
05:38can have whatever they are
05:39legally entitled to,
05:40I don't care.
05:42I'm gonna say it.
05:43You sound like you care.
05:46If you don't care,
05:47then you just say,
05:47I don't care.
05:48You don't say it in all caps
05:50in a super-long rage post.
05:52Also, nobody wants a president
05:54who doesn't care.
05:56After Pearl Harbor,
05:57FDR didn't say,
05:58a date that will live in infamy.
05:59For you, maybe.
06:00For me, it was just a regular Sunday.
06:02No skin off my nose.
06:05Didn't do a lot of work
06:06on my FDR impression.
06:08Earlier today, I was like,
06:10you should listen to him
06:10at least once,
06:11but, uh, I forgot.
06:14Anyway, the point is,
06:16Trump wants to make it crystal clear.
06:17He is in favor of signing this bill.
06:19I just want to be super clear
06:20on your position.
06:21Do you want to see that
06:22pass the Senate?
06:23Would you sign that bill
06:24if it gets to your desk?
06:26I do want to...
06:27Here's what I want.
06:29We have nothing to do with Epstein.
06:31The Democrats do.
06:33All of his friends were Democrats.
06:35All I want is,
06:36I want for people to recognize
06:37a great job that I've done
06:39on pricing,
06:41on affordability,
06:42because we brought prices way down,
06:44but they're going way lower.
06:45Oh, are they?
06:46Because the other day,
06:47I went to the grocery store
06:48to buy some beef,
06:49some coffee,
06:49and some bananas,
06:50and the total came out
06:51to six gold bars.
06:53And yes,
06:54I was buying beef,
06:55bananas, and coffee
06:56because my wife is out of town,
06:57and I don't know
06:58what my kids eat.
07:00Who wants banana burger lattes?
07:02No one?
07:03Great.
07:03Then I guess we'll all go hungry.
07:06The funny thing is,
07:07I could understand Trump
07:08being frustrated
07:08about the focus on Epstein
07:11if prices were going down,
07:12but they're not going down.
07:13He's basically saying,
07:14don't focus on this thing,
07:16focus on this other thing,
07:18saying I don't want Epstein
07:19to detract from prices
07:20like a lawyer saying,
07:21ladies and gentlemen,
07:22the jury,
07:22my client would never
07:23embezzle company funds.
07:25Just ask his wife
07:26if you can find her.
07:29She's been missing for weeks,
07:30and he was the last one to see her.
07:34Trump can't seem to get
07:35his story straight on prices.
07:36Today, he made the claim
07:37that he was making America
07:39affordable again
07:40before immediately shifting
07:41to how Democrats
07:42made up the word affordability.
07:45We're also making
07:45incredible strides
07:46to make America affordable again.
07:49That's a new word
07:50that they're using.
07:51Affordability, they talk.
07:53They had the worst inflation
07:54in history.
07:55They had the highest prices
07:56in history.
07:57The country was going to hell.
08:00The only thing that we're going up in
08:02is our stock market, okay?
08:04The only price that we really have.
08:05I mean, we're bringing prices down.
08:07But they came up
08:08with the new word, affordability.
08:10He says affordability
08:12like he's Tiny Tim
08:13complaining about the price
08:14of a Christmas goose.
08:16Please, Mr. Scrooge,
08:17can you do anything
08:18about the affordability?
08:20But we'll cut him some slack.
08:22This week's been hard on the president.
08:23So hard that the press
08:24is asking him
08:25if he's feeling okay.
08:26Your voice sounds a little rough.
08:27Are you feeling all right?
08:28I feel great.
08:29I was shouting at people
08:31because they were stupid
08:33about something
08:34having to do with
08:35trade and a country
08:38and I straightened it out.
08:40But I blew my stack
08:41at these people.
08:42These are so stupid.
08:43So you have a hoarse voice
08:45because you blew your stack
08:47screaming at stupid people.
08:48Again,
08:49not what we're looking for
08:51in a president.
08:51It would have been
08:52a lot less powerful
08:53if Abraham Lincoln had said,
08:54a house divided against itself
08:56cannot stand
08:56in the same way
08:57I cannot stand,
08:58you stupid morons.
09:01Again,
09:01no work on my Lincoln.
09:04Hey, listen here.
09:05It's Abraham Lincoln,
09:05I tell you.
09:07I've heard it up to here.
09:08Where are you?
09:10So Trump's voice
09:11is in rough shape,
09:12but at least his hearing
09:13is great.
09:14Well, it sounds like
09:15there's a follow-up there,
09:15but can I ask you about Venezuela?
09:17You suggested...
09:17It sounds like there's
09:19a follow-up there,
09:19but can I ask you
09:20about Venezuela?
09:21You said there was a polyp.
09:22That's a whole different thing.
09:24I don't want to hear that.
09:26Why would he say
09:28there's a polyp?
09:30I know you don't like
09:31probing questions,
09:32but this isn't literally
09:33a colonoscopy.
09:35Did you forget
09:35where you were
09:36and think the reporters
09:37asking you questions
09:38were doctors?
09:39Does the reverse happen?
09:40When you go in for a physical,
09:42do you think the doctor
09:43is a journalist?
09:44So, how's your diet
09:45been lately?
09:46Excuse me,
09:46that's a very nasty question
09:47in your fake news.
09:49And I'll have you know
09:50I've been eating
09:51lots of banana burger lattes.
09:53Maybe Trump was just screaming
09:55about how innocent he is.
09:57After all,
09:57as Trump explained,
09:58he barely spent any time
10:00with Jeffrey Epstein.
10:01I believe that
10:02many of the people
10:03that we,
10:04some of the people
10:05that we mentioned
10:05are being looked at
10:07very seriously
10:08for their relationship
10:10to Jeffrey Epstein.
10:11But they were with him
10:12all the time.
10:13I wasn't.
10:14I wasn't at all.
10:15Yeah, Trump wasn't
10:16with Epstein at all.
10:17Besides that time
10:18Trump invited Epstein
10:19to his wedding
10:19or when he partied
10:20with him at Mar-a-Lago
10:21or when they posed
10:22for pictures together
10:23or when Trump's name
10:23appeared in Epstein's
10:25flight logs
10:25or when Trump called
10:26him a terrific guy
10:27or when Epstein called
10:27Trump his closest friend
10:29for 10 years.
10:29Which, by the way,
10:30is incredible.
10:31Trump doesn't stay friends
10:31with anyone for 10 years.
10:32I mean, just think of
10:34all the people
10:34he's had a falling out with.
10:35Marjorie Taylor Greene
10:36dressed up like a tour guide
10:38at the Trump Museum
10:39and even they didn't
10:40make it 10 years.
10:41But Donnie and Jeff,
10:43baby, they were built
10:44to last.
10:44Everyone has seen
10:45the pictures of Trump
10:46with Epstein,
10:47especially if you happen
10:48to live near a castle
10:49in the UK.
10:50Protesters here overnight
10:51projecting a photo
10:52of President Trump
10:53alongside convicted
10:55sex offender
10:55Jeffrey Epstein
10:56on the walls
10:57of Windsor.
10:59And here's my question.
11:00Where do you get
11:01a projector that big?
11:03Is there a section
11:04at Best Buy
11:05called Castle-Sized
11:06Projectors
11:06for Embarrassing Presidents?
11:07Of course, in England,
11:08it's not called Best Buy.
11:09It's called Superior Purchase.
11:12Snobs!
11:15But hey, those are just photos.
11:17Now we have Epstein's emails
11:18and I would have to imagine
11:19that if they weren't
11:20that close,
11:21Trump's name
11:22barely comes up at all.
11:24The good folks
11:24at Courier Newsroom
11:25have compiled
11:26all of the more
11:27than 23,000 Epstein emails
11:29into a searchable database.
11:31And the one name
11:32that appears more
11:33than any other
11:34in all of those emails
11:35is Donald Trump's.
11:37The Wall Street Journal
11:38has even created
11:39a handy visualization guide
11:40to show just how much
11:42each figure is mentioned
11:43over time
11:43in these emails.
11:44The blue dots here
11:45represent each
11:46of the Epstein emails
11:47that mention
11:48former President Clinton.
11:50These ones represent
11:51each time the emails
11:52mention former Treasury
11:53Secretary Larry Summers.
11:55And these ones represent
11:56all the mentions
11:57of Donald Trump.
11:59Far more,
12:00by a lot.
12:01Yeah, I also wish
12:03it looked less
12:03like sperm.
12:07I do.
12:08Same page?
12:09Yeah, we're all
12:10on the same page.
12:11Also, I'm not even
12:12mentioned that much
12:13in my own emails.
12:15Mostly because people
12:16here at NBC
12:17can't remember my name.
12:20It's obvious
12:21why Trump fought so hard
12:22to stop this bill
12:22from passing.
12:23He called Republicans
12:24who supported it stupid,
12:25called the files a hoax,
12:26made up by Democrats.
12:28His team held
12:28an emergency meeting
12:29in the White House
12:30Situation Room
12:31to sway Republicans
12:32to vote against it.
12:32And he called
12:33Marjorie Taylor Greene
12:34a traitor.
12:35But Greene got the last word
12:37before the bill
12:37passed on Tuesday.
12:39I was called a traitor
12:40by a man that I fought
12:42for five, no,
12:44actually six years for.
12:46And he called me a traitor
12:47for standing with these women
12:49and refusing to take my name
12:51off the discharge petition.
12:53Let me tell you
12:54what a traitor is.
12:55A traitor is an American
12:57that serves foreign countries
13:00and themselves.
13:03Okay, but in fairness,
13:03she didn't say Trump's name.
13:04She could have been
13:05talking about anybody.
13:06I mean, maybe she was
13:07referring to a different president
13:08who does deals
13:09with foreign governments
13:10and had a secret
13:11Chinese bank account
13:12and got a crown
13:12from South Korea
13:13and a plane from Qatar
13:14and a gold bar
13:15from Switzerland,
13:16touched a mysterious
13:17glowing orb in Saudi Arabia.
13:19That orb may have given
13:20Trump mystical powers,
13:21but like all magic spells,
13:23it's now clearly
13:23taking its toll.
13:24The weird ailments,
13:25the bad hearing,
13:26losing its voice,
13:27the orb giveth
13:28and the orb taketh away.
13:30Come on, seriously,
13:32who would make anyone think
13:33Trump serves foreign countries?
13:35This morning,
13:36President Trump welcoming
13:37Saudi Crown Prince
13:38Mohammed bin Salman
13:40to Washington.
13:41Saudi flags draping
13:42Pennsylvania Avenue.
13:43The president welcoming
13:44the crown prince
13:45with a lavish ceremony
13:46on the South Lawn.
13:47President Trump is hosting
13:49a lavish dinner
13:50for the Saudi crown prince.
13:51I just want to say
13:52it's an honor
13:53to be your friend.
13:53And I asked
13:55the crown prince,
13:56so outside of Trump,
13:59outside of Trump,
14:00because I blow
14:00everyone away,
14:01who was the best
14:02president for Saudi Arabia?
14:05We've worked
14:05with all presidents.
14:06Does Trump blow
14:07them all away?
14:08No, you,
14:09son of the league,
14:10Mr. President.
14:13Mr. President,
14:13and Trump doesn't
14:14give a fist pump.
14:16I grab that hand,
14:18I don't give a hell
14:19where that hand's been,
14:20I grab that hand.
14:21Wow, now we know
14:22what it looks like
14:23when Trump's not
14:24blowing his stack.
14:25He's giddy.
14:27That's so unsettling
14:28to see.
14:28It's like when you're
14:29a kid and you see
14:30your dad drunk
14:31for the first time.
14:32Is he singing
14:33Life is a Highway?
14:35Trump's whole vibe
14:36in this meeting
14:36is a reminder
14:37not to trust him
14:38when he tells you
14:38he cut ties with Epstein
14:39after learning
14:40the truth about him.
14:41That's Mohammed bin Salman.
14:43Jeffrey was my best friend,
14:44but he crossed the line
14:45and I cut him off.
14:46But luckily,
14:47I met a new best friend.
14:48You know him as MBS,
14:49I call him Bonesaw.
14:51Trump spent months
14:52desperately trying
14:53to stop this bill
14:54and lost.
14:55After election losses
14:56and dismal poll numbers,
14:57his power is waning
14:58and even MAGA
14:59is splitting from him
15:01and he can't change
15:01the subject to prices
15:02because no one believes
15:04he's sincere
15:04when he talks about
15:05affordability.
15:07This has been
15:08A Closer Look.
15:12We'll be right back
15:14with Jonathan Bailey.
15:15For more of Seth's
15:22Closer Looks,
15:22be sure to subscribe
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15:24on YouTube.
15:32Our first guest tonight
15:33is an Emmy-nominated actor.
15:35You know from his work
15:36in Bridgerton,
15:37Fellow Travelers,
15:38and Jurassic World Rebirth.
15:39He stars in the highly
15:40anticipated Wicked,
15:41if we're good,
15:42which will be in theaters
15:43and IMAX
15:43on November 21st.
15:44Let's take a look.
15:45You can't leave
15:46because you can't resist this.
15:50That's the truth.
15:54Well, maybe I can't.
15:58Is that so wrong?
16:00I mean, who could?
16:02Well, you know who could.
16:03We both know
16:04who could
16:05and who has.
16:06And I have to find her
16:07because if someone else
16:08gets that first,
16:09she's...
16:09Yeah, I'm worried
16:10for her, too.
16:11And I miss her.
16:13Can't you see?
16:14She doesn't want
16:15to be found.
16:17You've got to face it.
16:20She's made her choice.
16:23Please welcome back
16:24to the show
16:24our friend Jonathan Bailey,
16:26everybody!
16:26Hello, friend.
16:43Welcome back.
16:44I'm so happy to see you.
16:45It's lovely to see you.
16:45I was very hopeful
16:47a year ago
16:48when you were here
16:48talking about part one
16:50of the Wicked franchise
16:51that you would join us again.
16:52So, thank you.
16:53And it's the final stop.
16:54It's the final stop.
16:55Final conversation about Wicked franchise.
16:57And it's really amazing
16:57because, you know,
16:58the amount of time
16:59you put into making
16:59a movie like this,
17:00I think people underestimate
17:01the amount of time
17:02you do press
17:02for a movie like this.
17:03So, this has been
17:04a big part of your life.
17:05And obviously, it helps
17:06that you're, it seems at least,
17:07you're a very close cast.
17:09We really are.
17:09Yeah, the press tours
17:10are incredible
17:11for so many different reasons.
17:13But, you know,
17:14I was talking to Jeff Goldblum today
17:16and we were doing
17:17our final interview together
17:18and we had one day on set,
17:20you know, filming.
17:21Yeah.
17:22That was shot over a year
17:23and then, and now we've,
17:25you know, a beautiful friendship.
17:26You're on the road,
17:27you travel the world together,
17:27you get to share it
17:28with all the fans.
17:29That's amazing.
17:29With that said,
17:30you're probably ready
17:30for a break from all of them.
17:33I'm just saying, like,
17:34it does look like
17:36you've all become
17:36very codependent
17:37and I think you should all,
17:39you need to get out.
17:40I thought you were saying
17:41the fans.
17:41No, no, no, the fans.
17:43Not the fans.
17:44Look, I see Jeff Goldblum
17:46like twice a year
17:46and like, that's plenty.
17:48Oh.
17:49Do you know what?
17:50If I could live,
17:51I'd live in a little
17:51bothy
17:52in Jeff's garden
17:54and Jeff's divinity.
17:55He's such an amazing,
17:56mythical creature.
17:56I would like to be
17:57in Jeff's orbit.
17:58I think of anybody
17:59I've ever met.
18:00Some sort of planetary
18:01constellation.
18:01Just being able to, like,
18:02observe Jeff Goldblum
18:03for, like, an hour a day,
18:05I think.
18:05But he is like the sun.
18:07He sort of, you know,
18:08charges your batteries.
18:09Yeah.
18:10I think that's why
18:10he wears those glasses
18:12because he's so bright,
18:13his own eyes hurt.
18:15He radiates in such a frequency.
18:17We talked about
18:18your nieces and nephews.
18:19They're at the age now
18:20where I would imagine
18:21there's some real anticipation
18:22to seeing the new wedding.
18:23Yeah, they're really excited.
18:24They're particularly excited,
18:26but I don't know who is more,
18:27either me or them,
18:27about the Lego pieces.
18:29Oh, yeah.
18:29Because I'm now a Lego.
18:31There's two Lego pieces.
18:32Yeah, that's really exciting.
18:33And a Barbie.
18:34And do they actually, like...
18:35And that's right.
18:38With really long, luscious hair.
18:40Yeah, I mean, like,
18:41I've been on this show
18:41for 10 years.
18:42All I have is a mug.
18:44And let me tell you
18:45what kids aren't excited about.
18:46I'm like, who wants mugs?
18:48I'm going to create
18:49a little Seth Barbie.
18:50Oh, thank you.
18:50I would love that very much.
18:52You also, another one,
18:54Jurassic, well, you know,
18:55you did a Jurassic Park movie.
18:56I would imagine that's pretty cool
18:57for nieces and nephews.
18:58Yeah, they love it.
18:59I mean, they do.
18:59They love it.
18:59And it's amazing.
19:00You know, to be in these films
19:01that bring everyone
19:02to the cinema is incredible.
19:04It's a great honor.
19:05And, yeah, the fact
19:07that it's, like, multi-generational.
19:09And I sat in London last week
19:11and, I mean, the second,
19:13it's such an epic finale
19:14to this two-film sort of extravaganza.
19:19And I was there with my family
19:20and all my school friends,
19:22one of whom you're about to meet.
19:23Very excited.
19:24Yes.
19:25And my niece was there,
19:27and I was just watching her
19:28just sit there.
19:29She was just completely taking it in.
19:31And you just,
19:32I started crying,
19:32and I couldn't stop.
19:34Yeah.
19:35And it felt like, you know,
19:36after however many years,
19:38you know, actors are only in
19:39for, like, 15%
19:40of making these extraordinary films.
19:41So when you think about John M. Chew
19:43and Mark Platt,
19:44who's stuck with this for,
19:45you know, over 15 years,
19:46but for me, it's been three years.
19:48And it just,
19:49and that London premiere
19:50felt like a real release.
19:52That's really amazing.
19:53And I'm just so proud
19:55that now everyone gets to go
19:55and experience that.
19:56That's really cool.
19:57Are you worried that it did
19:57take people out of it
19:58when they saw you crying?
20:00Well, especially because I,
20:01because I was running up and down,
20:03desperately looking for a hug.
20:05With my Barbie and my Lego.
20:09They were like,
20:09oh, my God, he brought the Barbie.
20:11Yeah, in my mouth.
20:12I'm rabid.
20:13I'm screaming it around.
20:14But, okay, so you,
20:15look, you've worked
20:16on very big movies
20:17over the last few years.
20:18You've had a lot going on.
20:19I feel like you deserve a break.
20:21You said this is the end of it.
20:22Do you have some time
20:23carved out for yourself?
20:24Yes.
20:25Okay.
20:26Have you got any ideas
20:26of where I should go?
20:27Because I haven't actually
20:28booked anything yet.
20:28How much time do you have?
20:30I reckon, well,
20:31I called my friend on the way here.
20:33I walked,
20:33when you're on a press tour,
20:35even I walked here today.
20:36I was like,
20:36that to me was a holiday.
20:38Great, yeah.
20:38And I called my friend.
20:40I went,
20:40so, I'm sort of wrapping up now.
20:43Do you fancy going on holiday
20:43today?
20:46And all my friends at home
20:47have nine to five jobs,
20:48so it's kind of hard.
20:49But I reckon,
20:50yeah, we can go away for a week.
20:51Do you like warm weather,
20:52cold weather?
20:53What do you like?
20:54I think, yeah,
20:56a bit of sun would be lovely.
20:56Okay, Pittsburgh.
20:57I think you want to go to Pittsburgh.
20:59I would do Pittsburgh.
21:00Two days in Pittsburgh,
21:01one day in Cleveland.
21:02You can drive it.
21:03Brilliant.
21:03Do you work for Thomas Cook?
21:06Yeah.
21:07I do, I do.
21:08But what are the lower level jobs?
21:10Yeah.
21:10Oh, fine, yeah.
21:11We also have Bridgerton
21:12coming back.
21:13Yes, we do.
21:14I'm very excited.
21:15Yeah.
21:16I would have,
21:16I, I, I,
21:17this is,
21:17this must have been like
21:18a very interesting few years
21:20of like,
21:21you're constantly,
21:21I feel like,
21:22working on projects
21:23that people,
21:23again,
21:23we're talking about fans.
21:24There's a great amount
21:25of anticipation
21:26for your work.
21:28And I would imagine
21:29a lot of overlap
21:30in who likes it.
21:31Well,
21:31Bridgerton,
21:32quite rightly so,
21:33is, is,
21:34is sort of tantric
21:36in the,
21:36in the way it makes you wait.
21:38It is tantric.
21:39But I,
21:39I was watching
21:40the first four episodes
21:41of the new series
21:42to, to sort of
21:43calm myself
21:44whilst we were traveling around
21:45and it is so good.
21:47It's so funny you said that.
21:48It's like,
21:48what's the sexiest part
21:49about Bridgerton?
21:50How it makes me wait.
21:52How it makes me quivering
21:54for new episodes.
21:55All right,
21:55so you mentioned
21:56you're going to have
21:56a friend come out
21:57and we're going to go
21:58to commercial
21:58and they're going to bring him out.
21:59But he,
21:59he's a,
22:00he's a playwright.
22:01And he has a show
22:03that's going to be on Broadway.
22:04Two strangers carry a cake
22:05across New York.
22:06And, uh,
22:07I'm telling you,
22:10if there is,
22:11I couldn't be prouder,
22:13and you'll understand
22:13in a minute,
22:14but it's,
22:14it's the most
22:15astonishingly brilliant show.
22:17And it's,
22:17it's a ticket
22:18that everyone should buy
22:19over this,
22:20this next season.
22:21But he,
22:21we grew up together.
22:22We spent our teenage years
22:23together.
22:24And he,
22:25he took me to see
22:27Wicked for the first time.
22:28And his brother
22:28illegally downloaded
22:30the, uh,
22:30original cast record.
22:31Uh, anyway,
22:33so it's just the most
22:34unbelievable thing
22:36that on Monday
22:36we sat and watched
22:37Wicked together
22:38at the premiere.
22:39And on tomorrow,
22:39I have the great privilege
22:41of going to see
22:41his show open
22:42on Broadway.
22:43Uh, well,
22:43we're very much
22:44looking forward
22:44to talking to Kit
22:46when we come back.
22:46We will be right back
22:47with Kit Buchan.
22:50The play's open tomorrow.
22:51And we'll be right back.
22:52We're back with
23:13Jonathan Bailey.
23:14And joining us
23:15is his best friend,
23:16writer and lyricist,
23:17Kit Buchan.
23:17And, uh,
23:18welcome, Kit.
23:19Two strangers carry a cake
23:21across New York.
23:22Opus tomorrow.
23:23Before we talk about that,
23:24how old were you
23:25when you met each other?
23:27Like 14.
23:2814 years old.
23:29Yeah.
23:29And, uh...
23:29I was a young 14.
23:30Did you see each...
23:31I was immediately 14.
23:32Did you see anything
23:34in each other
23:34that would have led you
23:35to believe that
23:36the moment you're at
23:37right now was possible?
23:38The desperate needs
23:38of escape to school.
23:39Yes.
23:40Yeah.
23:41We were in a
23:41forbidding school environment.
23:43Okay, gotcha.
23:43It's more preoccupied
23:44with rugby than...
23:45Yeah.
23:45Yeah.
23:46Did you see...
23:46Did you see sort of
23:48a sanctuary in each other
23:49immediately?
23:50Yeah, completely.
23:50Also, I was thinking today
23:51how much I just copied
23:53your history essays
23:54word.
23:55Word for word.
23:57I mean, with no intelligence.
23:58Kit is a ferocious talent.
24:00These are...
24:01Here's a look of you guys
24:03in your youth.
24:05That was when we were 21.
24:06That was last week.
24:08These guys, I like.
24:09That's great.
24:11You guys have a really good...
24:12I'm surprised one of you...
24:13Also, I've just noticed something.
24:15Hang on a minute.
24:16Can you hold those two up?
24:18Yeah, yeah.
24:18Look at this.
24:20So we were already
24:21imitating one another's kind of...
24:22Yeah.
24:23Exactly.
24:23This is before...
24:24Each other's creative orbit.
24:26And this is very exciting.
24:29Your play is opening tomorrow.
24:30Tomorrow.
24:31And how do you feel?
24:32What is your anticipation?
24:34I imagine you've had plays open before.
24:37How do you feel a day before it?
24:39Not like this.
24:39Not like this.
24:40This is a Broadway debut.
24:42Yeah.
24:42Oh, very much so.
24:43It's my everything debut.
24:44It's your everything debut.
24:45This is a show you have done in London.
24:47You've done it in Boston.
24:47Yeah.
24:48But obviously, there's a whole different level.
24:51Yes.
24:51You've been in the city for two months.
24:53Yep.
24:54And New Yorkers have given you some helpful feedback
24:56in a very New York way.
24:57You can't get anything past a New Yorker.
24:59Gotcha.
24:59Yeah.
25:00So what are some of the things
25:01they've told you about your play
25:02that you are grateful to have heard?
25:04Well, we've been making the show for 10 years.
25:06And there's been input from American audiences
25:07all the way through that time.
25:08But there's still details that can slip through the net.
25:10And when we're in Boston, for example,
25:11there's a radio announcement
25:12at the beginning of the show
25:13where a traffic reporter refers
25:16to the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway.
25:18Yeah.
25:18And we were sort of, on opening night,
25:20I was tacitly told by the sound designer,
25:21oh, by the way, no one would ever say that.
25:23Yeah.
25:23I was like, oh, great.
25:24Could have told me earlier, but thanks all the same.
25:26And there was also a problem with, like, pricing stuff.
25:28There's a certain amount of, like,
25:30our two characters, for reasons I won't explain
25:32because I don't want to ruin it,
25:33end up with a source of income
25:35that is maybe not their own.
25:36And they have a very extravagant night on the tiles.
25:39And a lot of the input from New Yorkers was like,
25:42that cake isn't expensive enough,
25:43that tuxedo isn't expensive enough,
25:45that hotel isn't expensive enough.
25:46Exactly.
25:47In the most British way,
25:48a source of income that is maybe not their own.
25:50Yes.
25:51Yeah.
25:51Yes.
25:52But you wrote it with your other really good
25:55long-term friend, Jim Vaughn.
25:56And it's a musical.
25:57And for those who can buy a ticket,
25:59it's on anyone who loves, like, the 90s rom-coms,
26:02it's got such wit and brilliance and charm.
26:05And the soundtrack itself is brilliant.
26:07So listen to that.
26:07And Johnny, how long ago did you see it, Ben?
26:10Well, I saw it.
26:11So it's how many iterations?
26:12It's been about five.
26:14It started in Northampton.
26:15Yeah, Northampton.
26:16And that's where my dad's from.
26:17Oh, I forgot that.
26:18Do you remember?
26:18Yes.
26:19Stuart Bailey.
26:20Girls, shout out Stuart.
26:21And so we went and I, again,
26:23this makes me sound like I cry all the time,
26:25but I did cry.
26:26Do you remember?
26:27And I sat next to you and it was so emotional
26:29because we used to make films in my garden.
26:31Yeah.
26:32And really intense films.
26:34Like, really original.
26:36So we would have a shoot day on, like, a, I don't know,
26:39a Sunday, and then I'd sort of, we'd go into the edit.
26:43I'm just so happy to hear you can cry at work
26:45that you're not in.
26:46I think that's the reason.
26:47What were that, when you were making short films as kids,
26:49because I feel like that is such an important first step
26:52to, like, creative, you know, construction.
26:54What sort of films were you guys making together?
26:56Yeah, it sounds endearing, doesn't it, in a way.
26:58I have a horrible feeling.
26:59The one that I can remember was a story
27:01about two middle-aged French men
27:03who had slept with each other's wives.
27:05And then, not to put you find a point on it,
27:07Johnny's character found himself.
27:08Got really upset, and I hurt myself.
27:11And at the point...
27:13It was like New Wave, but maybe just sort of
27:14wave goodbye.
27:16Oh, my God.
27:16The world isn't still quite ready.
27:18What teenage boys haven't made that film?
27:20Yeah, exactly.
27:21But you know what, weirdly, you know,
27:22when you think about, like, Wicked
27:23and the themes of Wicked and friendship,
27:25and you, like, despite the fact that it sounded so intense,
27:29it was, like, the most creative couple of years.
27:31And it's like, if we hadn't...
27:33I don't think we could even think about
27:35what we were going to eat for dinner,
27:36let alone think about the future.
27:37No.
27:38But, my goodness, if you could go back and say then,
27:41but we had the best...
27:42It was like we were really safe in each other's company.
27:44It was such a generative few years
27:46that I sort of credit that time,
27:48my friendship with you and with Jim,
27:50my co-writer, and my brother, Alistair.
27:51Yeah.
27:52Without those friendships,
27:53this show, which is sort of about friendship,
27:55would never have happened.
27:56And was that, with those early sort of films
27:59you guys were making,
27:59was that the last time you collaborated professionally?
28:01Have you guys done stuff together?
28:03Well, you played Puck, and I played Demetrius.
28:06Demetrius, yeah.
28:07There's photos of that,
28:08but I'm glad they haven't made it.
28:10So, what age was that?
28:11We went traveling together.
28:13I feel like our collaborations have been life,
28:15not creative.
28:16But I tell you what,
28:18when you see this show,
28:19you'll understand why I'd be honored
28:20if there was ever a moment to be invited along
28:22for a creative ride.
28:24Are you using...
28:25Are you using this time here
28:26to try to get a part?
28:29You said this was about him being your friend.
28:34I'm very excited for you, Kit.
28:37I can't even imagine the anticipation.
28:39You know, break a leg to you and everybody tomorrow.
28:42And it's to say there's two extraordinary performances.
28:44And how many...
28:45Yeah, your two cast members,
28:47how long have they been involved in this production?
28:49They've been involved for a year,
28:50and they are so wonderful,
28:52and their relationship with one another
28:53is very beautiful as well.
28:54It's just so lovely to see them.
28:57And she's...
28:57I mean, without her,
28:58we could never have created
28:59such a convincing New Yorker.
29:01That's very, very exciting,
29:03and I can't wait.
29:04Congratulations to both of you.
29:05Thank you, Sam.
29:06Congratulations on the friendship.
29:08Jonathan Bailey, Kit Bucket,
29:09and everybody Wicked for Good Week in theaters
29:11and IMAX on November 21st.
29:13Two Strangers, Carrie Cakes,
29:14across New York,
29:14other people on the computer
29:15on Broadway tomorrow.
29:17Does he bother with a cigar?
29:18I'm going back to the next season.
29:19Welcome back, everybody.
29:40Our next guest is an Oscar-winning actor.
29:42She knows from shows like The Last Man on Earth,
29:44as well as films like Elf Stepbrothers,
29:47Philadelphia, and Parenthood.
29:48She stars in A Man on the Inside.
29:50The second season is streaming
29:51November 20th on Netflix.
29:53Let's take a look.
29:54There will always be reasons
29:55not to do something.
29:57We spend a third of our lives at work.
29:59If you're not getting value out of your job,
30:02you should quit.
30:04The rest will work itself out.
30:06You know what?
30:08You're right.
30:10I told Joel years ago
30:11that I wanted to go back to school
30:13and he was super supportive.
30:17I'm going to quit my job.
30:18Do it.
30:20Do it now.
30:21Really?
30:22What else are we going to do?
30:23The bread isn't even here yet.
30:25Please welcome back to the show
30:27Mary Steenburgen, everybody.
30:28Mary Steenburgen, everybody.
30:47Hi.
30:48How are you?
30:49I'm good.
30:50I'm very excited to have you here.
30:52I'm very excited.
30:53You're working with your lovely husband,
30:55Ted Danson, on this show.
30:56I am.
30:56And you've just celebrated
30:57your 30th wedding anniversary.
30:59Congratulations.
31:01And look, I love Ted very deeply.
31:06I know you love Ted very deeply.
31:08I do.
31:08And yet, at the same time,
31:09I've heard that maybe he's doing something
31:11you don't love.
31:12You know what?
31:13I think it's important
31:14because he does have this sort of aura
31:16of being somewhat perfect.
31:18Or at least he's pretty sure he does.
31:20Yeah.
31:21But, yeah, no,
31:22there's just one or two things.
31:25And one is that whenever he wants
31:28to kind of reflect enthusiasm,
31:32he'll say a word.
31:33And they change sometimes,
31:35but he really believes these words are hip.
31:38Oh, no.
31:39And so he'll say them.
31:41And then for six months,
31:42every time anyone says anything,
31:44he'll double down on it.
31:45So, like, the original one was snap.
31:49Like, after everything I said,
31:51it would be snap.
31:53Then the next one was schmoley,
31:56which was holy moly,
31:57but got cleverly shortened to schmoley.
32:00Yep, yep.
32:00And then...
32:01Cleverly.
32:02Cleverly.
32:03And then the last one was schnikes.
32:08And it was like after any...
32:11And my kids came and said,
32:12can you please ask Ted to stop?
32:15And now, the other day,
32:17I noticed there's a new one,
32:19but it's like a tender one.
32:21It's like, you'll say,
32:22oh, I made you, you know,
32:24I made the bed,
32:25and go, bless.
32:29Do you just...
32:30Does it your heartbreak
32:31the first time he says bless?
32:32Because you know, you're like,
32:34oh, this is going to be six months of life.
32:35Yes, I do know.
32:36Where is he getting these words?
32:38I don't know,
32:38but somehow he thinks you're super cool.
32:41And I'm like,
32:42dude, people think you are cool.
32:45Like, you don't need to do this.
32:46Yeah.
32:47And then when you say that,
32:48is he like, bless?
32:49Yeah, bless.
32:50Bless for saying that.
32:52Well, I would like to walk back
32:53how much I love him,
32:54because this seems very irritating.
32:57I'm joking, of course.
32:58This is, you play a very,
32:59you're on a college campus this season.
33:01Right.
33:01You play a very eccentric music professor.
33:05And I guess people are telling you
33:06they see a lot of you in this character.
33:08Are you surprised by it?
33:09Well, yeah,
33:10because I read it and went,
33:13oh, she's pretty crazy, you know?
33:15And then every, Mike Schur,
33:18and everybody keeps going,
33:19yeah, we based it right on you.
33:21So there's stuff directly taken from your life
33:25that Ted has told us,
33:26and it's all you.
33:28That's really funny.
33:29Yeah, her name is Mona,
33:30and she had a one-hit wonder
33:33when she was young.
33:34She was a big star.
33:35She opened for Fleetwood Mac
33:37at the Royal Albert Hall.
33:38She was, you know,
33:40she was really something.
33:41And then the band fell apart,
33:44and she went back to school
33:45and studied music,
33:46and now she's been
33:47a music professor forever.
33:49And she was a really fun character to play,
33:52and yes, she might be a little like me.
33:55It was nice they at least
33:56didn't name her Mary.
33:57Exactly.
33:58You were in school in Arkansas.
34:02Yep.
34:02And you had professors
34:03that sort of saw talent in you
34:05and suggested you come up here to New York City.
34:07Is that right?
34:08Yeah, I went to one year of college,
34:11to an incredible college,
34:12actually very similar to the one
34:15that's celebrated in our show,
34:17that's Wheeler College.
34:20And my school was Hendricks College,
34:23and it's a beautiful liberal arts college,
34:26but I left it to come up here
34:28and study with Sandy Meisner
34:29at the Neighborhood Playhouse.
34:31And when you come up here,
34:32I imagine you're one of those people
34:34who probably doesn't have
34:35a great amount of money.
34:36So what were your early living quarters like
34:39when you first came to New York City?
34:41Well, my first, very first place
34:43was called the East End Hotel for Women,
34:46and you got to...
34:47That sounds like a trap.
34:48It was...
34:49It was divine.
34:54You got a room and two meals a day
34:57for $40 to $50 a week.
34:59Wow.
35:00Yeah.
35:00Bless on that one.
35:04Yeah, it was...
35:06And then two friends that also were there,
35:09the three of us moved into a one-bedroom apartment,
35:12which felt enormous compared to the cell I'd been in.
35:16And I tried to work,
35:19at Doubleday Bookstore on 53rd and 5th.
35:21I passed it on the way here, by the way.
35:24And then it just...
35:27I was spending all my money on books
35:29because you got a discount on books.
35:32And so, and then...
35:33That's how they hook you.
35:34Yeah.
35:35And then I learned I could make
35:38much more money waitressing.
35:40So for many years, I did that.
35:41Did you take to waitressing naturally?
35:43Were you good at it?
35:44You know, I lied to get my first job.
35:47My friend, Moma Yashima, told the lady
35:51who ran this place, Bubbles.
35:53Bubbles?
35:53Which was a bar, little bar restaurant
35:57on 65th and 1st called Noah's Ark.
36:00And she said,
36:01She's so experienced, you know?
36:03I'd never waitressed in my life.
36:05Right.
36:05And so I had on stupid shoes.
36:07Not quite this stupid, but...
36:09I mean, these are pretty, but you know what I mean.
36:11Yeah, yeah.
36:12And blisters the first night,
36:15and Bubbles goes,
36:17Okay, you got the job,
36:18but don't ever lie to me again.
36:20Yeah.
36:21So...
36:21Yeah.
36:22I would say a lot of New York City Bubbles
36:24can have pretty good B.S. detectors.
36:27Put the fear of God in you.
36:29A couple years ago,
36:30it was a very exciting rite of passage for us.
36:32We showed Elf to our kids for the first time.
36:35We did.
36:35And it's such a wonderful,
36:37you know, holiday tradition to show that movie.
36:39Is that a movie that you and your family ever re-watch?
36:42Yes.
36:43We will be watching it at Christmas,
36:45and then the kids will all say,
36:48Can we make spaghetti and put maple syrup on it and see?
36:51And I'm like, you know, I ate that all day long,
36:54and I do not recommend it.
36:56You, uh, that was the first time you worked with Will Ferrell,
36:59playing his stepmother,
37:00but then you did again in Step Brothers,
37:03which is a rite of passage that's still a few years away.
37:07It is.
37:08I mean, I, like, there are certain scenes where,
37:11you know, with my boys where I'm like,
37:13I just cannot wait to, like, watch...
37:15Well, please wait, Seth.
37:16Yeah, I know I have to wait.
37:17It's not time yet.
37:17I know it's not time, but I'm like, oh, my God,
37:19the first time they watch that bunk bed scene,
37:21they're going to die, literally.
37:22They're literally going to die.
37:24Gives us so much more room for activities.
37:27But, uh...
37:29Is it true that Will reached out to ask you about Step Brothers
37:36after having worked with your mom?
37:37Yeah, we had so much fun on Elf,
37:40so he called and he said,
37:41you played my stepmom in Elf.
37:44Would you be insulted if I asked you to play my mom
37:47in Step Brothers?
37:48I said, well, what year were you born?
37:51And we did a little math.
37:53And I said, well, I would have had you when I was 11.
37:56Yeah.
37:57But I said, I'd be insulted if you ask anybody else.
38:01So we had the best time.
38:03And I think if you watch that film,
38:05he looks like someone who was raised by an 11-year-old.
38:07Like, I think a lot of...
38:08When you realize, like, where he ended up, there is...
38:10Yeah, it's true.
38:11This is not the first time you've worked with your husband, Ted.
38:15This is...
38:16Is this Pontiac Moon?
38:18Yes.
38:18And were you married yet when you did this one?
38:21In life, no.
38:22Okay.
38:23But in the movie, yes.
38:24Yes.
38:25And then Gulliver's Travel.
38:28Then we were literally sending out wedding invitations.
38:32We're not yet married.
38:33Okay, gotcha.
38:34And then this is Ink?
38:36Yes.
38:36And you were married, but divorced on the show.
38:39Played divorced.
38:39Great.
38:40Yeah.
38:40And then on Curb, you're playing yourselves, but also divorced.
38:44Starting out married, and then Larry thoughtfully had us get divorced on the show.
38:49Right.
38:49And we did have calls from people that should have known better saying,
38:53please say it ain't so.
38:55I would like...
38:56There's the...
38:57By the way, some of whom you know.
38:58Oh, I'm sure.
38:59Oh, I...
39:00By the way, I know exactly.
39:01I've got some guesses.
39:03There's nothing funnier to me than people being like,
39:05hey, I know we have a lot of friends.
39:07How should we tell them we're splitting up?
39:08And it's like, I think we should do it on Curb.
39:09Yeah, on Curb.
39:11Sounds good.
39:11I think let's put it in Larry's gentle hands.
39:13Yes.
39:16Congratulations on the show.
39:17It's always so lovely to see you.
39:19You too, Seth.
39:20Larry Steenbergs and everybody, the second season of The Man on the Inside is Streaming,
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