00:00the big thing that's gone on a lot of national buzz around the the the jama rant stuff now
00:08i saw mark stein report yesterday there doesn't appear to be this sense of urgency from memphis
00:15to trade him but it is one of these things that's very odd because yeah they learned anything from
00:21jimmy butler who the heat has memphis learned anything oh yeah if you let this linger on it's
00:28just gonna go poorly well yeah the thing is interesting i really do like it very much
00:35clearly seems like he does not like the coach tomas iasalo well if you don't like two coaches
00:40maybe it's not the coaches it's you that's a fair point that's a fair point that's a fair point
00:45hold on don't say that's a fair point i didn't want him to come here when the previous coach
00:51from his team that vlad vlad vlad well he was my man my man my man tobes sometimes tend to
01:01overlook certain aspects of what he wants because he's gonna now tell you
01:09but that was in memphis this is memphis
01:13you know you know we're doing the same offense right here's the thing here's the thing that guy's
01:20coaching he's he's uh he's spearheading the the conversion to what job was supposed to be doing
01:28last year he's not spearheading he is a he is an unlisted consultant nick laroche what do you think
01:35they're getting it from and here's the thing here's the thing that i'm curious about now everybody said
01:41last year that oh ja didn't like the offense however starting to get the arithmetic on this
01:50whole thing of making a stink did he not like the offense or is he just tired of memphis
01:56you know it's very easy to say oh i don't like the offense oh ja doesn't like the offense let's fire
02:06taylor jenkins with six games left that's how desperate they are but now you don't like this guy
02:11either maybe he has nothing to do with the offense maybe he just doesn't like you guys so he's he's the
02:19new marcon now he's walking away from memphis now i won't get away from memphis yeah i don't know vlad
02:26i'm just saying like maybe the off the offense isn't the issue as much as we thought it was
02:31first class to get to miami
02:40hey it's been real memphis it's been fun what you're doing it again what am i doing you making
02:49the circumstance fit what you want i'm not making myself first of all yes you are hold on hold on
02:54that's not fair that's not fair that's not fair really that's not fair sometimes the tooth hurts
02:57uh well here's the thing i i am not making any i don't even know if i want john moran okay so
03:06first oh stop it i want john moran everybody just everybody just keeps looking vlad and they're like
03:14oh miami would be the perfect place for john moran he needs culture so even you know you want to say
03:20make a stink you know you want to say it so he's already making a stink i don't have to tell him
03:24anything he got he's already making a stink thank you j fig why why do i get a minus one you know why
03:32stop acting like you're here stop acting like you're innocent or lying you are not dude
03:38that's not fair i'm just access okay hear me out on this would the heat not have a little bit of
03:49insight maybe you call up our old friend anthony carter is he still coaching on memphis i think he
03:55is wait a minute even more of an insight who's john's agent it was mike miller but they're oh they
04:04done they broke up yep oh okay well then you still have an insight he'll let you know yep yep
04:11hey what now let me ask you this jay told said it and i was thinking it
04:18would have one of the best traits of the heat right now they share the ball feed the hot hand or
04:26whatever time around doesn't play well with others that's not that's not true though like when memphis
04:33was playing at its best that was a well-oiled machine jaron jackson and desmond bain and
04:37they all shared in the wealth like i don't think of john moran as a as a ball hog let's look at his
04:43stats and that team was good okay that team was good i don't think of him as a ball hog and again
04:54he may just be tired of memphis you know and you think with all the problems that he has had
05:01that that is gonna just go away look
05:10i can't say that they will go away i don't know he did he may be very immature i don't know
05:17that's why but this is all you have that's all you have to make decisions like this
05:23that's what he's done you are willing to give up assets and everything
05:27and hopes that it will be different when he gets here i'm not willing to give up assets and
05:31everything okay i'm just saying if this is a problem what do you think you're gonna have to
05:36give up to get john moran i don't know i'm not if you're talking multiple first round picks i'm
05:40click i'm out i'm not doing it you guys you guys got your own headache all right we're not
05:45dealing with that so i just i'm clear he's not a give up the farm type of guy what do you think
05:49you're gonna give up crickets i don't know i don't know that's a good question because a lot of
05:53people are seeming to think that he doesn't have a lot of value around the league well they said
05:57that his shooting is um diminished and his athleticism yeah his athleticism games and he's
06:04tiny and he can't shoot the rock but he is a career 22 point 22.5 seven assist guy so he's not
06:13really a bullhawk no he's not right if you're averaging seven assists in the league you're sharing
06:18the bull tell you who you like to give lobs to the warehouse you need a pigeon that's his guy now
06:25that's his pigeon bygones that's also hey bled if i called you a pigeon and then came to work and
06:35you was doing like we would have to have a conversation no we have to fight no no no we
06:39have to have a fight like you got to take that you can't probably call me a pigeon and then all
06:43of a sudden we're teammates now we can be like oh yeah i'm gonna let that slide no no no
06:47just call john and so wait oh don't okay let's do this you think being in miami lessens the chances
06:59of him doing job stuff or increases the chances hard to say you know maybe no it ain't hard to say
07:08it ain't hard to say five minutes ago you said as trying to activate
07:11dude i don't know what to tell you as trying to assemble so if we assemble in astron you think
07:19if ja get down here oh his sliders for his sliders with uh you know in nba 2k you have sliders like
07:25you know you improve oh yeah his slider for not improving would be very high there's no way he'll
07:33be at tootsie's or playhouse or you know the cheetahs in pompano he'll be at every cheetah
07:38pompano hollandale and west palm hmm come on youtube and you know that's look i say we give
07:45a little call is anthony carter still there we give ac a call we're like what do you think ac
07:49you think this guy can handle it down here anthony carter would know pros pro he's he's played down
07:56here what do you think about this john morant i was outside when anthony carter was outside
08:03okay i'm just saying bill simmons came out today sports guy now all of a sudden you listen to
08:13anybody if it makes sense i'm not listening to everybody i'm just bringing it to the table
08:18everybody he thinks you are something else he thinks that the trade value would be
08:24why don't the grizzlies and the heat do it a a tyler hero for john moran swap skis apparently
08:34the heat i guess got to take case uh contavious caldwell pope and his contract and i guess i
08:39don't know he suggested the terry roger contract i don't even know if you could touch that but let's
08:44just say you could make the salary work let's just say that let's just say it was a tyler for
08:48josh straight up trade one would memphis do that and two if you're the heat would you do that
08:53no why do do elaborate okay because one who's saying no in your case you answered okay double
09:06hang up because here's the deal memphis ain't memphis ain't trading nobody without trading job without
09:12draft picks well you can only trade with what you can get and i don't know what they can get for him
09:18and two you think they want tyler hero i don't know and he's up for a max extension he is up for
09:26an extension but you're not you don't i mean you don't have jaw to pay anymore if jaws get like i'm
09:31saying here's the situation if we're saying this is a jimmy butler type situation he's joyless
09:36he doesn't he doesn't they should have did with jimmy was trading before the um right draft but they
09:41didn't and the and the grizzlies had an issue with jaw last year and did they trade him no they
09:46waited through this year so now they have john morant making a stink which you know we'll see how
09:53they deal with all of that i don't know but obviously i don't i don't like that trade for either team
09:58you have kevin durant mocking you know papa morant on the sidelines saying that your son doesn't want
10:04to be there everybody knows it he wants out by the weekend i don't know
10:09i'm i if i'm either team i don't want that i don't want the john morant contract without like
10:20you don't know if he's matured enough to to like be equivalent to what tyler is on the court
10:26well let's say there is a tyler is a shooter ja isn't he is that's true ja is small and has been
10:37banged up and that's the last thing you want that's the last thing you want oh i would say
10:43both of durability and i would tell you what compared to john morant um tyler swole okay but
10:51whatever like john whatever it is it is i mean like if you're talking about like liabilities and
10:59durability like both of those things handle for both players one guy's a really good shooter his
11:03his game will probably age a lot better and maybe john morant flames out by his 30 i don't know maybe
11:09not even i'm just saying but i would say this if you are squeamish about paying tyler hero in the
11:1740s john morant you have under contract for a couple of years in the 40s you know like and if
11:25tyler hero is shooting for 50 and you're just like like is that a question the heat are already like all
11:30right well this is this is a guy we know what the price point is for the next couple years right and
11:34and and so let me ask you a realistic question do tell name all that doesn't matter based on
11:44how the heater playing right now how does john morant make this team better his skill set
11:52does it really make the team better
11:53yeah i think so how guy gets up and down the floor fast can share the basketball scoring punch you'd
12:04essentially be replacing davion mitchell you wouldn't have his defense but you'd have a guy who's a souped
12:08up offense pretty nice fit with donan powell i would say so i don't think i don't think i mean when i look
12:15at look at when i look at davion davion's not as good offensively but what i'm getting on the defensive
12:21side of the ball makes up for that and you have other guys who can score like i don't want to lose
12:27that part of it especially when you're running up and down the floor but you're going to lose
12:31somewhat of it like look you're eventually going to lose those minutes anyway because tyler hero is
12:36going to play unless you're going to go super small and play bam wiggins norman tyler and davion
12:42and we've already been seeing how getting your ass kicked with the rebounding has been going for
12:47miami not great right so i don't know you're gonna you're gonna have some give on that either way
12:52i don't i see i don't think his scoring is gonna like overshadow his lack of defense on this team
13:03that much right we okay let's just put him at his average is 22 well we got guys that do that
13:10right how his averages his averages are 22 but this is a guy who's like averaged up like 27 points a
13:17game before i mean to me john morant would just be a a a smaller um i mean like smaller jimmy butler
13:32like you would have to start building your team around him yeah i guess that he does on the
13:39defensive side like all things that when you brought a guy in when you brought you know even
13:45jimmy and you don't have to worry about the defensive side of it yeah i mean jimmy butler's
13:51a really good defender that's not really that's that's that's not the the issue that was there for
13:55him the issue with jimmy was you know when you could you always rely on him to go and turn on the
14:01scoring like that's not going to be a thing with john morant people have always said like you need
14:05the go-to guy in miami and if there are and here's the thing if they are squeamish about paying
14:11tyler hero this is a little bit of a punt move like it's it's like you're bringing in a guy who's
14:16obviously an uber talent yes with way more baggage than tyler hero but also some red flags that tyler
14:22hero also has like what injuries injuries yeah injuries they both have those that's what i just said
14:29no i know but i'm so so you're basically saying john morant's upside is worth the risk
14:39where i look at tyler hero and i say i can just keep tyler and not have that risk
14:47and maybe be in a better place but tyler hero as the number one guy on a team has never led a a
14:55a 50 win top of the conference type of team like john morant has and that again that like that guy
15:04maybe got i don't know if he's an immature guy here's what happens with immaturity those things that
15:10carry over that you think are going to carry over don't always carry over so you're taking more of a
15:16risk when you know he's immature you see what i mean definitely got a question of maturity that's
15:22why you gotta call up anthony carter right i'm saying we gotta call up anthony carter set up a
15:25group call you know somebody said ja sells tickets that's true you get ja miami's in hot city again
15:32it's like when you guys not and i'm not comparing him to the hall of famer but the same buzz you would
15:40get when wade got to miami and then wade everybody started seeing that you know flash was a thing and
15:45he was must see tv and must see to come to the you know to the arena ja would do that you will see a
15:51lot of asses in the seats there won't be no skittle colors being shown on tv when they play
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