00:00Leroy, I'm sorry if I offended you.
00:03I was more offended that you didn't get the pigeon.
00:10I didn't.
00:11Hey.
00:12I will say, though.
00:13I will say.
00:14Here's a couple of situations where we're out or we're together and something will happen
00:20or somebody will say something and told me to look over at me and go, no, no, no, no.
00:30I will say, though, I didn't feel like it was just intangibles who didn't get it.
00:34I think there's a lot of people have never heard that reference before.
00:36Oh, really?
00:37Yeah.
00:38I was mostly intangibles, mostly intangibles, of course, right?
00:43But that's a movie.
00:46It's not one you hear a lot.
00:48It was it was it was a different one from John, for sure.
00:51But I will say I'm not going to see him play basketball in a while.
00:55He's good.
00:56He's good.
00:57But here's what I would say.
01:02And don't take this as I'm saying there that Tyler's better.
01:14He's different.
01:16He is more efficient, which fits what this team does better than having a guy who's going
01:22to be a volume shooter.
01:24Right.
01:26Well, I mean, Tyler is is a volume shooter, too, but they're they're different in, you
01:33know, Tyler actually has very, very great range because he's a great shooter.
01:37Right.
01:38So so when I say I would prefer Tyler.
01:44It's not because.
01:49He may or may not be better, but if they both make 30, both get 30 points.
01:56John's going to be more of a volume guy than Tyler.
01:58Can we talk about the real issue here, though, which is last night was on Marcos.
02:04He completely mushed the heat.
02:05No, no, no, no, no.
02:07You mush the heat via text.
02:08Oh, no.
02:09Yeah.
02:10Completely mushroom with with right after the band block.
02:14You got a little.
02:15What do I say?
02:16You should.
02:17Bam.
02:18They've just ended the job.
02:19A red tree.
02:20Don't remember acting like it was over.
02:24You counted your chickens.
02:26I, too.
02:27How can I even when you're down?
02:30You can see you completely mushed it.
02:33There's really mushed it to the bush, dude.
02:37You can't mush when you're already has this team proven anything that at the end of games
02:41you sit on your hands and shut your mouth until it's over.
02:45Everybody was completely.
02:46No, everybody was completely quiet on a group chat last night.
02:50And you're right, boy, pop, pop, pop, pop.
02:54You know why?
02:56The real person to blame here is John Moran's personal cheerleader.
03:00Oh, what?
03:01Oh, you know, you don't know if he was just strolling through the streets of South Florida.
03:05He just popped on his Odyssey app and listen to this guy just praising John Moran all day.
03:12Give me John Moran all day.
03:15He hadn't done that for you either.
03:18He could, though.
03:19He could, though.
03:20Couldn't he?
03:21Couldn't he?
03:22Let's not forget trading his boy.
03:25I am what I am, and I want John Moran, and by the way, you know, I just you trade a little
03:30job for Jeff.
03:31See, I got to talk about it.
03:38That's not a yes.
03:40Oh, my goodness.
03:42Oh, my goodness.
03:43You are arguably feel like their biggest need.
03:48Can I tell you what?
03:49Can I tell you one thing about him?
03:51Yeah.
03:52I haven't seen him play in a while.
03:53He's immature.
03:54Yes.
03:55Is that what I said?
03:56I'm not even talking about the finger guns thing.
04:06Is that me?
04:07Either.
04:08Is that not why I said I would prefer Tyler?
04:12Tyler may be more mature than him.
04:14Oh, yeah.
04:15Actually, I'm quite confident Tyler's more mature.
04:17Yeah.
04:18What is what is very important on this heat team?
04:21Maturity.
04:22Oh, yeah.
04:23Is it?
04:24Oh, yeah.
04:25Think of all the immature guys and how it worked with the heat.
04:31A little bit of heat culture.
04:35We have.
04:36OK, we could go Philly cheese.
04:39We can go.
04:40Who's the center?
04:41White side.
04:42White side.
04:43No.
04:44Right.
04:45Right.
04:46Think of how it like it becomes with with Spohr.
04:50It has nothing to do with the talent.
04:52He's like, I can't play with you, your wild card.
04:55His getting teed up was hilarious.
04:57I was like, why did he do that to Alec Burks?
05:00He needs to calm down again.
05:03Again.
05:04So you would rather have him on the team.
05:11Just just you've been around the heat long enough.
05:14How's that immaturity going to play out?
05:17Maybe being no, no, no, no, no.
05:19Here.
05:20Don't assume that he can fix it.
05:23Hmm.
05:24Don't you're making it.
05:26I'm basically going about what I have.
05:29And that immaturity thing is a big selling point.
05:35When not only me, but this organization, where we agree with that.
05:42Do you see that pogo stick that he's got, dude?
05:45I mean, he hops up like a kangaroo.
05:47Yep.
05:48How does he do that?
05:49He's so tiny.
05:50And then he swings at another player.
05:53Right.
05:56I mean, like it.
05:59And so you misunderstand this part of this whole conversation.
06:05I'm not saying he's not awesome.
06:08I'm just saying it would be hard for him to fit with the heat with how one of the things
06:17you could say about all the players they like, they're very mature.
06:21They handled themselves a certain way.
06:25So why would you sign up for something like that?
06:27What is maturity, though?
06:28You know, it's not kicking somebody in the nuts, not swinging at somebody, right?
06:37Not getting teched up every other game because you're not getting your way.
06:45Yeah.
06:46And then let's not talk about the ill-advised shots that he'll take.
06:53I mean, there are not many ill-advised shots that he takes, though.
06:58He carried their ass in the second, by the way, he did.
07:01By the way, Tyler did it.
07:03You know, he needed to get that bucket to get the heat, the tie.
07:06That was a great job, by the way.
07:11But I will say you may have a point on the thank you.
07:18I know that was hard for you, John Tyler backcourt defensively.
07:24Yeah.
07:25Do I don't know if that works defensively, do you really?
07:31It barely works.
07:33It barely works with off night is out there with Tyler.
07:39Don't you speak of off night?
07:40I love let me tell you.
07:41No, no, no, no, no.
07:43I'm saying that from the standpoint of you have one defensive guy and one guy who doesn't
07:50and they just keep running the spin cycle till Tyler has to guard somebody.
07:54I don't know what I was very curious about this because I got to give Davion Mitchell
07:58an extension in the offseason and I don't know what somebody of Davion Mitchell's ilk
08:03makes any more in the NBA because everybody makes a lot of money.
08:06But I love watching him play basketball.
08:10He is.
08:11It's almost like he is inspired Pella to go on the floor like they went on floor and said,
08:19hey, do what Davion does.
08:21Yeah.
08:22Yeah.
08:23It's like he is flying all over the place.
08:25And I love my favorite thing is the offensive fouls.
08:29He draws on screens like he does.
08:32Once a game, he got like three of them.
08:35Jaron Jackson Junior, that dummy.
08:37He's sitting here.
08:38I mean, he can't stop fouling people.
08:40But Davion Mitchell got him like twice.
08:42He's like, lured you in again, dumb, dumb, because he's going to fight through every
08:48screen and he always is able to make it like bang and the ref has to call him on it.
08:52And so he gets dudes in the foul trouble like crazy.
08:55And I just I mean, I am.
08:57I really like watching him play basketball.
08:59He's fun.
09:00Yeah.
09:02The thing is, is that and.
09:06It looks better, but I must say this.
09:13Because it's been a while since I saw Jimmy, you know, be Jim.
09:18But this style of basketball looks to fit all the other guys on the team.
09:26A little bit more.
09:28And it seems like more guys get involved and more guys get shots, even though your studs
09:34are still scoring their points.
09:37Because of the activity on the offensive end, because of the way they move the ball and,
09:44you know, bam and bam and Tyler, no.
09:47OK, I got to get this one again, though.
09:50I mean, like you do maybe have a couple of turnstiles at the top of the key with John
09:54Tyler.
09:55But then you got a lot of pterodactyls behind him.
09:57All right.
09:58With maybe it could work.
10:00I don't know.
10:01I mean, maybe it could work.
10:02No, no, no.
10:03I mean, don't say no.
10:05We don't know that it couldn't work.
10:07It couldn't.
10:08I don't think that I don't think that we don't know that.
10:11OK.
10:12OK.
10:13OK.
10:14OK.
10:15Marcos.
10:16Yep.
10:17I almost cussed.
10:19Yep.
10:20I almost cussed.
10:21I saw you.
10:22I saw you.
10:23Because I can't believe this dude less than five minutes ago apologized to me because
10:32you may be right.
10:33And five minutes later, try to then turn around and sell it again.
10:38First of all, you said don't oversell what I said.
10:41I didn't apologize.
10:42I said maybe you had a point.
10:44I was trying to be a grown up and give you a little a little kudos.
10:48I didn't apologize.
10:49You know what you did?
10:50You went right through the red light.
10:51You went right through the red light.
10:52You didn't even pause.
10:53No, no.
10:54You went right through the red light because you said what you said, and then you went
10:58back to your previous conversation.
10:59Just be clear.
11:00Just be clear.
11:01If I'm sitting here in July and I have Tyler Herro and Jon Morant, we have the greatest
11:04backcourt in the NBA.
11:05Wow.
11:06OK.
11:07So he didn't apologize.
11:08No.
11:09All right.
11:10OK.
11:11Thought you.
11:12I felt like you did.
11:14I felt right.
11:15Right.
11:16Yeah.
11:17Right.
11:18Yeah.
11:19I just want to be like, wow.
11:20I say, let's chalk this one up.
11:21Yeah.
11:22Oh, did you think I was mature?
11:23Friday, April 4th, 2025, on the day of our Lord, during Lent, told me to apologize.
11:30And then you go, no, no, that's not what I did.
11:33Got a pigeon on that take.
11:38First of all, first of all, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
11:43no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
11:46No.
11:47Bad radio host.
11:48No.
11:49I want to hit you with the paper.
11:50Right.
11:51Huge game winner.
11:52Take me through what you saw on that final possession.
11:56A pigeon guard me.
11:59OK.
12:00Oh, so Margo.
12:02Right.
12:03With John said it.
12:06It sounded so much different.
12:08Yeah.
12:13Can you use pigeon in the sentence?
12:15You ever like have like your dog, which you confuse.
12:17Like when I looked at, like, when I looked at Twitter and I saw
12:20that, cause I didn't hear it live.
12:21I was walking down to the media room and like, I look, I'm
12:24like, and then I'm just like, all right.
12:29Intangibles.
12:30I'm going to start.
12:30I'm going to reach out.
12:34Like, wait, why did you have to put in parentheses
12:38intangibles here?
12:41The visual though.
12:42I did imagine him like,
12:45excuse me.
12:47Bam.
12:48Bam.
12:49Bam.
12:50H.
12:52Who's the phrase pigeon me?
12:54I was not asking, asking for a friend.
13:00What does this mean?
13:01That's a good call though.
13:02Cause it's risky.
13:03You never know.
13:04It's risky.
13:04You could have got a slight outburst.
13:07What the hell did he just say?
13:10Right?
13:11I mean, that would be like asking Drake about not like us.
13:20I'm sure.
13:21Well, listen, you know, based on Colell's response afterwards,
13:25I think he probably saw those comments.
13:27Anyway, he's like, yeah, but, but he's saying lucky shot on it.
13:31Here's the thing was a lucky shot.
13:34He played good defense.
13:37He did and got beat by a better shot over a seven footer.
13:43He stayed in front of him.
13:45He didn't go around him and I was hoping that job would have got
13:51around him and he could do that Bach, you know what I mean?
13:53Yep, but he stayed in front of him.
13:58I mean, like, yeah, it happens.
14:00Like, but Nick T says, if he said Flamingo or ostrich, it would have
14:04made more sense and I should be terrible.
14:09If he said Flamingo, it would fit, you know, he vice.
14:14Yeah.
14:14Right.
14:17Crazy mingo in front of me, but I mean, where I said the best, like
14:22the thing about basketball players, they don't get caught up in that
14:27one, you know, I got beat one time, right.
14:32And because like good offense, what did they say?
14:35Good offense is always going to be good defense.
14:37They do say that.
14:38So I was impressed that he stayed in front of him.
14:42I was impressed how he played and it's unfortunate that we're still
14:46going to look at that moment as job beat, you know, somebody said, uh,
14:54should have had bam on it.
14:55Somebody said, uh, should have had bam on it.
14:57I mean, they, he said yesterday, I saw the club where, uh, he told, uh, Alex
15:02Leo from, from five years, I saw on, on his Twitter, he said that they came
15:06out of the timeout and he's like, I'm getting the switch.
15:09There's two people who are not going to be on me.
15:12Davion Mitchell and bam on a bio.
15:14Right.
15:15Like, so, you know, they have plans to now the heat, like suppose that like
15:21you typically bring some help as that's all developing because you
15:25don't, you don't want to leave a Colelle out there on an Island, but
15:28he made a great shot, man.
15:29Great.
15:30Lucky, whatever.
15:31Cheated a little bit.
15:32I was, I was a little, I was a little flummoxed because if I take and put
15:38the ball in Tyler's hands on the other end, when he gets to the top of
15:42that key, they rush him.
15:45And I was a little shocked that they didn't do that because if you had
15:51Colelle in front of him and you rushed him with bam or even Tyler, that's
15:56a lot of size in front of him.
15:58He may not even be able to see anywhere to throw a pass.
16:01Well, Tyler got in his game tire.
16:04What did he had Pippen on him?
16:05And he got through and like three grizzlies were just staring at him and
16:08he hits that baby float.
16:09Like it's, it's a pretty, I mean, right.
16:11He's so money with that shot.
16:13I'm, I'm, I was a little shocked that just watching the play, you know,
16:20develop that nobody was even looking to do.
16:26Like, it's like everybody was happy with where they were in that point in
16:29the game.
16:30Like the heat seemed like we got Colelle.
16:32We're okay.
16:33We can deal.
16:34We can handle that.
16:35They were like, oh, we got Colelle in front of us.
16:38We can deal with that.
16:39Did you, everybody seemed to be happy.
16:41Otherwise you would have blitzed.
16:43Yeah.
16:43Did you, uh, outside of the end of the game when they got back from the
16:4880 run and Colelle had the block and then the three, did you get the
16:51goosies?
16:52I did because you know, you know, are saying respectfully.
16:57Oh yeah.
16:59Oh, you better believe I was like, huh?
17:04We couldn't use this the first month of the season.
17:07Huh?
17:08He's like, you think, just imagine if this development had happened after
17:14game 25, I picture us at a game 60.
17:18I picture us in 15 years doing a radio show at suppose hall of fame
17:21enshrinement.
17:22And, and Leroy's going to be like, and here he is.
17:26Four-time champion.
17:27Eric Spolstra.
17:29Welcome to the hall of fame.
17:30Be like, uh, didn't play the first 29 games.
17:35Oh, respectfully.
17:37Respectfully.
17:38Congrats.
17:39Straight.
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