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Miami Heat Fake Ja Morant Trade Has Tobin Intrigued
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Tobin and Leroy talk about a fake Ja Morant trade to the Heat by Bleacher Report.
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saw an interesting uh john morant mock draft or mock trade today this can i just say this
00:07
pretty fair deal can i just say this i'm gonna say this i don't want to sound crazy
00:13
but i'm gonna say
00:19
you i have a feeling okay that if ja ended up here
00:39
yeah that and hear me out i'm not saying the same issues
00:48
but i think it would play out like deshaun watson really for this reason
00:55
you're sitting here trying to dismiss or disregard all of the immature things this guy has done
01:06
and every time we've done that in any sport and think like we could fix them right oh it's different
01:15
here oh he got where he wanted to be oh he just wanted to be out of that situation they continue
01:21
to do the same stuff antonio brown right like i just he seems like a very immature person i will i will
01:32
i'm not did you the trade to get him here that means he would have to fall in line with the bams
01:40
and the tyler trade though can i give you the trade let me give you the fake trade i saw this
01:44
today on uh heat cultures twitter you can't call it a fake trade and you're bringing it up like
01:48
this is what the so wait beforehand yeah would you do it don't don't play middle i have to go i have
01:55
to go don't i have to say whether i do it i think i'd do it i think i'd do it go i think i'd do it go
02:00
let me see if i can call you an idiot the miami heat receive jama rant the grizzlies
02:09
would get andrew wiggins
02:13
nikola jovich
02:17
jaime
02:19
pella
02:21
and a 2029 first round pick and a 2031 first round swap
02:28
absolutely not why because john doesn't move the needle enough
02:37
to miss those four guys
02:40
you think like the only guy that's painful to me is nico everybody else
02:47
like i hate to lose pelly you know i'm a huge pella guy too much stuff
02:52
i say yeah too much stuff jukebox too much it's a lot of stuff though okay so what is your starting
03:01
five gonna look like okay in that case all right so backcourt is tyler and ja
03:09
uh you got you still keep kalal in this case so you got your front court of
03:16
where bam
03:17
need a three
03:19
probably needed to be another shooter
03:22
so maybe dunks
03:23
keep dunks out there that's a very bad defensive uh
03:26
front out there
03:28
could go haywood highsmith
03:30
maybe key shot johnson still annoyed that thomas bryan has a chance to win a championship
03:37
why
03:38
i like him
03:39
i like him
03:40
i'm just saying i want like
03:42
he couldn't work out here
03:44
for a 10 seed
03:45
okay
03:48
he
03:48
he didn't work out here for a 10 seed because
03:51
they were going to play the rookie
03:52
and
03:54
like he didn't play very much
03:56
okay
03:57
i got you
03:58
good for him
03:59
good for him
03:59
i'm happy for him
04:00
i'm happy for him
04:01
do you think he would have been the difference between
04:03
them
04:04
no
04:04
he would have been the same
04:05
same difference as
04:07
ja would make after trading all the youngins
04:10
it's not all the youngins
04:11
we keep where
04:12
you say you don't want to trade where
04:14
smoe doesn't even like where
04:15
he's gonna play dude
04:17
and now you got somebody who can get him lobs
04:19
dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks dunks
04:22
dunks dunks dunks
04:22
you are so
04:23
one pick one swap
04:25
pella and nico
04:27
question
04:28
out of curiosity
04:30
yeah
04:30
what do you think that his defensive rating would be with those five on the floor
04:34
i don't know but what would their offensive rating be
04:36
pretty good
04:37
nobody shoots
04:38
like
04:39
what
04:40
tyler can shoot
04:40
that's a terrible trade
04:48
it's not a terrible trade
04:49
for a guy that you still have questions about
04:52
you have questions
04:54
you have questions
04:55
i don't want to give
04:57
wait wait wait wait
04:58
i am not giving up
05:01
that much
05:02
for a guy
05:04
that the league still has questions
05:06
okay
05:06
you have
05:07
in this trade
05:08
you would lose your sixth man
05:10
in nikola jovic
05:13
not gonna start with the heat
05:13
you would lose andrew wiggins
05:15
your starting three
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which
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i hate the fact that
05:22
i you know what
05:23
you don't want to be here
05:23
i hate the fact
05:25
that
05:25
people go through life changes
05:28
and sports fans
05:30
could give a rat's ass
05:31
right
05:33
like that
05:34
why are we so insensitive
05:35
like that guy
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like
05:38
yeah he had a rough year dude
05:40
okay
05:40
so like
05:42
okay
05:42
yeah yeah
05:43
it's
05:43
like
05:44
man
05:45
what
05:45
i just think that's cruel
05:47
it's cruel
05:48
yeah
05:48
he's fine dude
05:50
he's walking
05:51
you don't know he's fine
05:53
he's gonna have a great time in memphis
05:54
he's walking in memphis
05:57
it's closer to canada
06:01
what
06:05
you are
06:06
what dude
06:07
the shadiest
06:08
sports fan ever
06:10
that's not fair
06:12
you support your players
06:13
and the guys on your team
06:15
until something else shows up
06:17
i gotta trade nico
06:18
i'm heartbroken over it
06:19
don't sound like it
06:21
you just did the
06:22
dunks dunks
06:22
dunks dunks
06:23
dunks dunks
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dunks
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no
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come on
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i'm very worried about john
06:28
i don't understand
06:29
what's like
06:30
you've heard some of the stuff
06:32
that
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wiggins went through
06:35
before he came here
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right
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and you have
06:39
zero sympathy for that man
06:41
the human part of it
06:43
forget the basketball player
06:45
the human aspect of
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none
06:48
to where you think this guy
06:50
is done
06:51
bye
06:51
he sucked for us
06:53
the short time he was here
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he don't want to be here
06:55
bye
06:56
wait how did you
06:58
can figure that out
06:58
and you know everything that
07:00
and so you just chalk it up to
07:02
no
07:03
he doesn't want to be here
07:04
he's here
07:04
he's here
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it's fine
07:05
it's not like he's my most
07:06
hated heat player of all time
07:08
but it just kind of represents
07:10
where everybody's like
07:10
he didn't
07:11
he didn't expect to be here
07:12
he loved being in golden state
07:13
he got dropped off
07:14
he's wearing jimmy butler's
07:15
number
07:16
he then all of a sudden
07:17
got injured for the first
07:18
time in his career
07:19
when he was here
07:20
he'd give you like
07:21
one good quarter
07:22
wasn't a great time dude
07:23
seems like a perfectly
07:24
nice individual
07:25
i think it's just best
07:26
for both parties to
07:27
already
07:28
after like two months
07:29
two months
07:31
let's go
07:32
you don't think that
07:33
that could be
07:34
if i'm getting jaw
07:34
who's more dependable
07:38
jaw
07:39
you think jaw's more
07:41
dependable than wiggins
07:42
he's a better player
07:42
i'm not disputing that
07:44
he's more dependable
07:44
as a better player
07:45
he's a better player
07:46
yes
07:46
agreed
07:47
he's more dependable
07:48
as well
07:48
okay
07:48
what are we talking about
07:49
how are you going to be
07:50
dependable if you've got
07:51
all this stuff around
07:52
would i trust andrew
07:53
wiggins to cross a grandma
07:54
across the street
07:55
and not get distracted
07:56
by something
07:56
yes
07:57
okay
07:59
ja morant
07:59
he'd probably do gimmicks
08:01
and make grandma like
08:02
do celebrations
08:03
throw fake hand grenades
08:04
yeah
08:04
okay
08:05
finger guns
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or real guns
08:08
if i needed somebody
08:09
we got a regular
08:10
gilbert arenas
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coming here
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if i needed somebody
08:13
to watch tommy for an hour
08:14
i'd pick andrew wiggins
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okay
08:16
because otherwise
08:18
tommy's probably like
08:18
get get get get
08:19
get get
08:20
you'll come home
08:23
and say
08:23
dad
08:24
dad
08:24
hit this
08:25
andrew wiggins
08:30
seems very responsible
08:31
okay
08:31
very responsible
08:32
but i don't
08:33
i don't need responsibility
08:34
i need responsibilities
08:35
out the window
08:36
here's the thing
08:37
i don't know why
08:42
life
08:43
eludes athletes
08:47
right
08:48
regardless of what you think
08:51
of athletes
08:51
and being pros
08:52
or whatever
08:53
they're people
08:54
and they have
08:55
they go through
08:56
things that
08:59
we all go through
09:00
but they live under
09:02
this spotlight
09:02
and for some reason
09:05
we're so very
09:06
dismissive
09:07
you're dismissive
09:08
of jaw
09:08
um
09:09
there's a difference
09:11
there's a difference
09:11
in what andrew wiggins
09:13
went through
09:14
and what jaw
09:15
has done to himself
09:17
they're out to get him
09:19
really
09:21
league doesn't care
09:23
about anybody
09:23
somebody say
09:24
hey josh
09:24
show that gun
09:25
that's a bad friend
09:26
that's not his fault
09:27
or
09:27
or hey jaw
09:29
let's lock and load her
09:31
next time we make a three
09:32
right
09:34
come on
09:35
that's it
09:35
hey come on
09:36
throw in the grenade
09:37
that's a great celebration
09:38
if he would have
09:39
jumped on the floor
09:40
and covered his ears
09:40
now the one thing
09:41
we have to
09:41
we have
09:42
he does cover the ears
09:44
as he runs
09:45
um
09:46
the one thing i'll say
09:47
though
09:47
he's got to apologize
09:49
to kalal
09:49
for calling him a pigeon
09:51
gotta apologize
09:55
i mean
09:55
the whole league
09:56
has got a lot of
09:57
probably remember
09:58
what they did
09:58
to poor tyler
09:59
oh
10:00
it's gonna be good
10:03
for tyler too
10:04
how
10:04
they're gonna be
10:05
a great
10:05
dynamic duo
10:06
no you know why
10:07
here's why it's gonna be
10:08
great for tyler
10:09
cause tyler's gonna say
10:11
y'all talking about
10:13
my defense
10:14
have i
10:14
let me introduce you
10:15
to jaw
10:16
yeah but they're gonna be
10:16
they're gonna be
10:17
in a dynamic
10:18
backcourt duo
10:19
yeah they say
10:20
wiggins was
10:21
was on a milk carton
10:22
for weeks
10:23
so it was bam
10:24
who was
10:26
they said wiggins
10:27
goes on a milk carton
10:29
for weeks
10:30
no like he
10:31
like
10:32
i mean
10:33
it wasn't a great
10:34
tenure
10:35
it wasn't a great
10:35
run
10:36
yeah but it was
10:36
like
10:37
three months
10:38
yeah
10:39
like you don't
10:40
give it
10:41
felt like six
10:41
man
10:45
i just
10:45
i just think i have
10:47
a little more
10:47
compassion
10:48
for what humans
10:50
go through
10:51
than you do
10:52
you can care less
10:54
your only compassion
10:55
cares
10:55
if this guy
10:56
is producing
10:57
for my team
10:58
i love him
10:58
if he's not
10:59
he's a bum
11:00
get him out
11:00
of here
11:01
not fair
11:01
angel wiggins
11:02
is a good
11:03
player
11:03
he's a good
11:05
player
11:05
right
11:06
i need a great
11:07
player
11:07
no but not
11:08
to play his
11:09
you still need
11:10
good players
11:10
too
11:11
what is
11:12
job
11:13
job being
11:14
here with
11:14
wiggins is
11:15
a lot better
11:16
than job
11:16
without wiggins
11:17
i would agree
11:17
but not a gift
11:18
to get
11:18
and you think
11:20
you're giving
11:21
him wiggins
11:21
yeah
11:22
well wiggins
11:23
nico
11:23
pella
11:24
no absolutely
11:25
i'm not giving
11:26
all my youth
11:26
the last thing
11:27
i want to do
11:28
is get old
11:28
it's not all
11:29
your youth
11:29
we get this
11:30
year's pick
11:31
so we'll have
11:31
a new rookie
11:32
coming in
11:32
we got
11:33
key shot
11:34
johnson
11:34
stepping up
11:35
we lose
11:37
pella
11:37
pella
11:38
hurts
11:38
i mean
11:40
i guess
11:41
what
11:42
i'm like
11:47
no
11:48
i don't
11:48
understand
11:49
how you
11:49
just have
11:50
who
11:50
okay
11:51
so would
11:51
you trade
11:51
wiggins
11:52
for kd
11:52
come on
11:57
what
11:57
hold on
11:58
yes
12:00
because
12:02
he's mature
12:03
no
12:03
because i know
12:05
what i'm getting
12:05
i know i'm gonna
12:07
get a guy who's
12:07
gonna play ball
12:08
i know for the
12:09
next couple years
12:10
you're gonna get
12:11
whatever kd has
12:12
to offer even
12:13
though he's a
12:13
curmudgeon
12:14
right
12:15
and like
12:17
i can i can
12:18
live with that
12:18
right
12:20
but
12:21
i'm not
12:22
gonna trade
12:24
four guys
12:26
for a guy
12:27
you have
12:27
no idea
12:28
what he's
12:29
gonna be like
12:29
you only play five
12:30
what's the difference
12:31
baby
12:31
you only play five
12:33
he didn't play
12:34
last year
12:35
pella gets
12:35
very few minutes
12:36
so
12:37
so
12:38
there's a couple
12:39
of people
12:39
that
12:41
i'm not saying
12:42
they can deal
12:43
with it
12:43
can't deal
12:44
with it
12:44
but i have
12:45
questions about
12:46
how they handle
12:47
astron
12:47
that's fair
12:49
zion and
12:50
ja
12:51
zion's not
12:52
going anywhere
12:52
no one's
12:53
building around
12:54
them
12:54
that's what
12:55
they said
12:56
that's what
12:56
joe newbar
12:56
says
12:57
okay
12:58
great
12:58
what
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