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What should the Dolphins do moving forward? Tobin wants to purge the whole team to get draft picks back but Leroy doesn't want the cupboard bare.
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00:00so keeping an eye on the trade wire we got till four o'clock today where the nfl trade deadline
00:06nothing uh nothing doing as of yet we had some rumors about bradley chubb in the chat he has
00:13not been traded um you know so nothing nothing doing right now jacoby myers no trades that would
00:22get you any substantial draft picks right like there's no first round people trade
00:35by the way i heard you your comments yesterday uh toga patch paul's not getting your first round
00:41oh you're crazy dude no he's not a second round guy's not gonna get your first round guy i don't
00:45understand that talent is talent devon hn would get you a second rounder he was a third rounder he
00:49hasn't played a full season all right i mean hn at this point the guy that would garner the most
00:58on your team is jaylen waddle is jaylen waddle correct i would agree we'll see no but i'm just
01:07saying like that's just the way it is like you thinking that patrick paul who's only played eight
01:13game nine games is going to get you a first round pick you're crazy well i wouldn't trade him for
01:19anything but a first round pick like no you said he would get you a first rounder i think that if
01:25you were going to actually trade him you would trade him for a first rounder like if somebody
01:28came to me and they said hey we'll give you a second round pick for patrick paul i'm hanging up
01:32leroy you don't know they don't have uh offers for paul you've literally been wrong for two straight
01:40seasons about what a lot of stuff we all been wrong we all thought the dolphins would be better
01:46but i don't like no man he's not going to get you a first rounder not even close not even close
01:56no he's only played eight games all right so like in so in the offseason would he get you a first
02:01rounder if he continues to play like this say if he would if he plays like this and he gets like a
02:05pro bowl or what does he need a pro bowl for like we do this with the tonsil thing yesterday or
02:09wasn't a pro bowler when he got traded okay but that's just that like that just something that
02:16increases your value i understand it increases your value obviously if you had accolades that
02:21would increase your value but i'm just saying you know i don't know how many pro bowlers are going
02:25to get off of a let's say that all that's with three games four games this year there's not gonna
02:29be a lot of pro bowlers because the rest of your line was a bunch of sieves around you
02:33pretty much you know pretty much joe thomas sitting there being like this bums
02:39yeah didn't he just get in the hall of fame he did yeah yeah he did never had i mean one or two
02:48winning seasons oh did he i know he threw up a donut yeah i don't see anything other than this uh
02:57this ricky scoops on uh on twitter i don't see anything that's like i can't think of anybody like
03:02i don't even know because here's the problem you've invested so much into uh waddle that
03:10there's another player that if you got rid of him you would have to pay money right because he's
03:17one of the highest paid receivers in the league yeah he's not it's not awful i don't think his
03:22contract is awful in comparison to to some other guys but you know that's another guy like these are
03:28here's the thing though like when i'm saying trade these guys like don't just trade them to trade
03:33them like you obviously you're in a position of of like hey if somebody knocks their socks off then
03:40you gotta obviously listen to it i would i would say this um if jaylen water were coming in draft
03:48out of the draft right now
03:49where would he get drafted you think he would get drafted in the first round i would assume so
03:56okay so that's where i would start like we can't trade jay water without first round right because
04:05then if you trade him at least you think you can get another one right in around the same time so
04:10what ends up happening is you get another first round wide receiver but you're saving 25 plus million a
04:17year right that's how you're kind of resetting the clock right patrick paul right like he ain't
04:24getting a first rounder but if you get a second rounder right you're just resetting but that's that's
04:34why i would say like the paul thing would pay him to be getting a better asset because he's he's only
04:38on his second year you don't even have to pay him now right so why trade him just because it's over
04:43yeah but you still it's over it's like here's what here's what i would like somebody i would like
04:48somebody to just please answer this right you know that they're going to keep some players right
04:56you you realize that you can't get rid of everybody not many they're not going to keep many right who's
05:03even not many is okay waddle i would say h and i would say patrick paul yeah we all know who the
05:15best players are i'm saying what's your price point though that you would part with them because
05:18you're ready to reset like their talent and when you have to pay them for waddle you pay him right
05:24you're paying him right now right h and you're going to have to pay him next year right when you're not
05:28going to be a contender there's likely how many dynamic how many dynamic players like h and are in
05:33the league oh there's maybe five okay so you think so you think you you got to keep them like you
05:40and you gotta you gotta evaluate your players to the point where hey some of these guys are gonna
05:46have to help us with the turnaround like you can't get rid of everybody you can't start because
05:52first of all nobody's that good to hit on every single player so you got to have a base to
05:58start with so that you can build around that like regardless of what people are going to give you
06:04what you think you should get for a trade you still need players you can't replace a whole team
06:10but you can have a core guy you got a left tackle check you got a number one right receiver
06:16okay whether you think so or not check you got a running back check you got three running backs
06:22all are young except for a chain but only one we know is like for sure good player is a chain
06:28correct um you got a d tackle you took him in the first round he had to learn on the job that's what
06:35your your left tackle and your dn uh d tackle had to do learn on the job it looks terrible but it is what
06:44it is so like you got about five or six guys that are gonna have to you're gonna have to keep but
06:52also to your point like you want to build the team from the inside out like what's the point of having
06:57these guys it wouldn't you rather you could you could reinvest picks to fortified guys on the inside
07:04and then you will go get your skill guys when you fortified your trenches like that's what that's
07:08another way you could look at it what i would like to hire it's not a liar huh okay yeah i don't
07:14remember when i'm in there yeah no when chris greer first came in he said he was gonna build for
07:19trenches out you don king dude what he just dropped the bar yeah i said i don't want a liar no that's
07:25not what you said you did lie before you know what i don't want to acquire another liar that's what
07:30you said no i don't want to hire another liar i don't want to hire another liar right because
07:34thank you because chris greer lied he basically said he was coming in and built through the
07:41trenches and he did not do that he went the direct opposite that's what i'm saying though like if you
07:47have these guys and that's going to be your philosophy like let's say somebody does want to
07:50build it from the inside out rather than having those guys that's where the flipping would come
07:55it's like all right yes it's great to have a receiver if we have four sieves next to patrick paul
08:00what's the point correct so and and i'm not saying he's not keep in mind everybody's looking
08:07for offense alignment well that was my point for the patrick paul thing that's why it's so valuable
08:12if you feel like you have a good one and somebody's offering up then what are you going to do you're
08:17starting from scratch but but he's got nobody starts from absolute scratch yeah i'm talking about a deal
08:24that you can't turn down though like i'm obviously not just flipping patrick paul for nothing but if
08:28somebody gave me the laramie tonsill three first rounders for him yeah of course i would have to
08:32listen you're not getting that well you say it you say no but you also say in the same in the same
08:38breath that there's not enough offensive linemen around and this guy's been nobody's gonna offer
08:42three offensive linemen for a guy who's played a half a season okay what about in the offseason
08:47no still not three first rounders okay that like do you know what an offensive lineman that gets
08:54three first rounders yeah laramie tonsill did he didn't have the he didn't have the accolades he did
08:58until he got to houston okay that's kind of like your your whole thing about that i do the thing
09:06the circumstances are much different than they are they were here no how because when you traded
09:11laramie tonsill did you get did you get a first rounder for him you got three they got you got three
09:17first rounders for him and like he was going to be a top five pick yeah so like like you knew what kind
09:26of talent he was and thought i mean basically they just gave you three first round people they got
09:31him they got him to drop because of extortion but that doesn't anything he still played three seasons
09:35with you right okay but i'm just saying this is not the same situation or circumstance like i know
09:43you're starting from scratch it's kind of the same circumstance how can you start a football team
09:48from scratch that's literally what they did they went and they were terrible do you not remember 2019
09:52when brian flores got here yeah there was nothing here except for minka fitzpatrick who said get me
09:57the hell out of here everybody else was gone right but even in all right you can't build from absolute
10:05scratch but they did i mean they still kept players is what i'm saying yeah and then he said like three
10:11weeks saying please get me out of here i want out all right i want out
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