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This episode of 5 Live provides an in-depth analysis of the escalating political tensions and internal turmoil within the Mahagathbandhan alliance as Bihar gears up for assembly elections.
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00:00Maha Gatbandhan faces inner turmoil India block cracks begin to show
00:21No unanimity on CM face Congress's mind game with Tijasvi
00:34Sends feelers for Nitish
00:40Nitish Ji, you think that we are going to be with them
00:47Nitish Ji, you think that we are going to be with the Congress
00:51The Congress is always going to be with us and we are going to be ready for it
00:54Big Bihar Seed Bargain Bazaar
00:59State of War Bihar, only on India Today
01:04Good evening, Battleground Bihar is not just about who is campaigning
01:13but also about who is colliding
01:16As allies within the Maha Gatbandhan are against each other
01:20even while trying to fight the NDA
01:23As the polling dates of November 6th and 11th come near
01:27The window to fix alliances is closing fast
01:32with withdrawals for phase 2 ending on October 23rd
01:37Yet the Maha Gatbandhan still hasn't cleanly settled seats
01:42turning partners into rivals in 12 seats where direct clashes are now playing out
01:48RJD has unilaterally unveiled 143 candidates
01:53Congress has lagged in finalizing its slate
01:56and smaller partners have put up their own names
02:00so much so that the bloc briefly fielded more candidates than available seats
02:06That's how the confusion is playing out in Maha Gatbandhan
02:11rather than cohesion which is the need of the hour
02:14This isn't strategy, it is a signal to voters that negotiations faltered
02:19and that precious campaign energy may now be consumed by friendly fire
02:24instead of taking the battle to the NDA
02:28Meanwhile, Bihar Chief Minister and NDA face, Nitish Kumar
02:31was on the stump today in Meenapur and Kanti
02:35So here are the stakes two weeks out
02:39Allies in open contest split the anti-incumbent vote
02:44Unclosed seat sharing breeds confusion at the booth
02:49and everyday lost to internal wrangling
02:54is essentially giving opposition camp its gains
03:00Two pictures are emerging from Bihar right now
03:03One alliance still drawing its map
03:05Another already on the road
03:08And the differences may be tallied on November 14th
03:12when the counting decides who turned timing into victory
03:16That's how the cards are stacked up
03:19as we look at these elections two weeks from now
03:22But first up the story and then I bring in the guests
03:25A Maha Gat in the Maha Gatbandhan in Bihar
03:31The alliance seems to be unravelling seat by seat
03:35in the nth hour ahead of polls
03:37With less than three weeks to go before the first vote is cast
03:41cracks, jibes and political mind games dominate the alliance
03:44with a consensus nowhere in sight
03:47Ticket distribution disputes and rival candidates on same seats
03:51have turned the contest into a Maha Gatbandhan vs. Maha Gatbandhan war
03:55in 12 key constituencies
03:57Out of this, RGD faces the congress in six seats
04:01Congress battles the left in four
04:03and the RGD takes on VIP in two of them
04:06But the war within allies doesn't end with a squabble over seats
04:11Despite repeated requests by the RGD
04:14The congress is yet to declare Tejashvi as the alliance's CM face
04:17And to now add insult to injury
04:20There are overtures being made to Nithish Kumar
04:22to join hands with them yet again
04:25In contrast, in the opposition camp, Amit Shah has taken full control for the NDA
04:52Late-night closed-door meetings in Patna with rebel candidates
04:55aim to keep the house in order
04:57The confidence is leading to potshots being taken at their rivals
05:01If there is a Maha Gatbandhan in this brahman
05:05that there is nothing called as friendly fight
05:11Either you are friends or you are fighting with each other
05:14This is not a friend in Sankharsha Rajneethi
05:16This is a wrong word
05:19While the bandhan and the alliance is breaking down
05:22Rahul Gandhi was busy in the national capital
05:25making Diwali sweets
05:27Sweet celebrations, but sour politics
05:30Bureau Report, India Today
05:32Some piece of breaking news coming in now
05:43Bihar Chief Minister and NDA face in these elections
05:45Nitish Kumar started his election campaign today
05:48from Muzaffarpur
05:50to be specific, Meenapur constituency in Muzaffarpur district
05:54and his first rally sparked a mega controversy
05:57In fact, RJDS Tejasvi Yadav posted a video of Nitish Kumar
06:01from the rally where he is seen garlanding the BJP candidate on the seat
06:05Tejasvi in fact mobbed Nitish Kumar and asked
06:09Mr. Chief Minister, if you are healthy
06:11why are you doing such antics?
06:13Let's look at those visuals again
06:15and then I bring in Rohir
06:27He is a very young man
06:29He is a great man
06:30How do they do the hand?
06:32That's why
06:34we will say
06:35that we will be able to win
06:37so we will win
06:39All right, let me bring in Rohit now.
06:48Rohit, again, the health issues of the chief minister coming on the fore
06:54and becoming an election talking point with a just retweeting about it.
06:59Well, yes, Maria, once again, Chief Minister Nitish Kumar's action is mired in a lot of controversy
07:11because all this happened today in Muzaffarpur.
07:14And in this case, Nitish Kumar was in Meenapur and was doing an election rally for BJP candidate Rama Nishad.
07:23Once his speech was over, Nitish Kumar was trying to garland her.
07:29But as you can see in the pictures also, in the visuals also, Sanjay Jha was very quick to stop Nitish Kumar from doing it.
07:37In fact, he held Nitish Kumar's hand also and stopped him from garlanding the woman candidate.
07:44But Nitish Kumar, in fact, pushed him back and then he garlanded the woman candidate Rama Nishad.
07:51And then what he said, Gajab Admi Hai Yeh Paat Rokta Hai.
07:55So this is what now has become a talking point in Bihar politics.
07:59Again, raising questions whether Nitish Kumar was okay, not okay about his health condition,
08:05about his mental condition.
08:06A lot of speculations are already doing the rounds in the past few months.
08:10And now Tejasvi Adav has also used this video as an opportunity to hit out at him,
08:15raised questions on his health conditions where he said that Nitish Kumar is also reading a speech,
08:22which is written speech.
08:24And then he is doing all kinds of things that is now being seen in the video.
08:29So once again, questions being raised in the Bihar politics as elections are drawing closer
08:34that whether Nitish Kumar is okay or not and what is the case about his health condition.
08:40Back to you, Maria.
08:41All right, Rohit.
08:43Thank you for joining us.
08:44Let me bring in the guests now.
08:45Sajjan Kumar, political analyst, joins us.
08:48We have Dr. Ajay Alok, national spokesperson of the BJP.
08:51Dr. Sanjay Kumar, spokesperson of the JDU.
08:53And Dr. Pooja Tripathi, congress spokesperson, is also joining us.
08:57Dr. Tripathi, the question is, what is visible here is that all is not well in Mahagadbandhan.
09:04You have an important election to fight.
09:08But what is visible is that you are fighting within.
09:13I don't think so.
09:14It's an immediate speculation that we are fighting within.
09:18You know, Mahagadbandhan is a formidable alliance.
09:21Every alliance partner is an equal.
09:23There is no junior or senior partner.
09:25And there would be friction within some seats.
09:27I have been saying this for so many days.
09:28That the speech sharing talk is not an easy path to take.
09:32And having said that, there are few seats where friendly fights are taking.
09:35I think Levin in particular.
09:37And that's okay.
09:39It's a democracy and everybody has a right.
09:41Somebody is not contended with the candidate candidates.
09:44They are there to fight, to have a friendly fight.
09:47I remember Maharashtra, where the Mahayuti candidates had a friendly fight on eight seats.
09:52And then there was in Haryana.
09:54And then what happened?
09:55And what happened in Maharashtra?
09:57What happened in Haryana?
09:58You went on to lose both those elections.
10:01No, I am saying Mahayuti had a friendly fight on eight seats.
10:05And thank you for saying that.
10:07That they went on to win the Maharashtra.
10:09They went on to win the Haryana.
10:10I was telling about the NDA seat sharing.
10:13In Tribura in 2019, the IPT of the major ally in NDA.
10:17They declared that they will contest both the parliamentary seats.
10:20And with their living and with their being a part of NDA.
10:24They declared that they will be contesting both the parliamentary seats.
10:27Dr. Pooja Tripathi, you know, yes, you have corrected me here.
10:32But how do we forget that in both these states, it was the BJP which was in power.
10:38So when they have friendly fights, the equations are different from the challenger.
10:44The Mahagatbandan here is the challenger.
10:47You are looking to get a toehold in Bihar.
10:50Why should people in Bihar trust you right now, given the fact that you have not ironed out your differences.
10:57And then in close to 12 seats, you are fighting with your own alliance partner.
11:01And we will get a toehold in Bihar because Bihar will vote on the issues of calm.
11:06Bihar will vote on the issues of Palayan.
11:08Bihar will vote on the issues and absolutely no industrialization of the state.
11:12Bihar will vote on the issue of why per capita income in Bihar is so less than national average.
11:17Why female labour force participation rate is at Miagar 9%.
11:21Bihar will vote on the issue of why 138 bridges have collapsed due to corruption.
11:26While tons of litres of alcohol has been drunk by rats, I presume.
11:31So it's being said in the middle of...
11:32You know, at the moment, what is evident here is that you have not got your house in order.
11:38And if you have got your house in order, then you could have taken on the NDA.
11:42Right now, your house is collapsing.
11:45It's collapsing like a pack of cards where Tejasvi Yadav and Mr. Alavaru have trust deficit, which is also evident here.
11:54Let's bring Ajay Alok.
11:56Ajay Alok, you have a different challenge.
11:58You have a different set of challenges with Nitish Kumar here.
12:03Those images are raising the question again, unfortunately, about the health of the chief minister.
12:09I guess not, Maria. You also know Nitish Kumar. I also know Nitish Kumar. They both come from Bihar.
12:17But one thing for sure, my friend from Congress doesn't know how many seats Congress is contesting.
12:22Can you ask her? Does she know? Nobody knows.
12:26She also not knowing. What is the number of the seats that the Congress is contesting?
12:31So, as far as Nitish Kumar goes, he is very much sound. And he is very much sound, hale and hearty.
12:38And he is doing all the kinds of campaigning. As far as the picture what you are showing,
12:43the concerned lady is like a daughter to Nitish Kumar. And I guess, just to boost some candidate very nicely,
12:51it's real cheap of Mr. Tejasri Yadav that reflects his mentality that a person who is of a father's age,
13:00he is posting this kind of a picture and a comment. That shows the exact kind of mental frame
13:04the whole Mahagadbandan or so-called Thagbandan is in. I mean, what's wrong in that? What he is doing?
13:10Does he think? Actually, the thinking is like Lalu Prashad Yadav only. Because when Nitish Kumar was taking out Mahila Samman Yatra,
13:18Lalu Yadav famously made a comment, ki Nitish aankh se kne ne kal raha hai. This is the kind of reflection,
13:24what this family is all about and what this culture is all about. And this kind of a political culture
13:29is not tolerated in Bihar. If you pass such unworthy comments which should not be discussed at all
13:35and then you question somebody else, this is absolutely ridiculous.
13:39Dr. Ajay Alok, as a Bihari, I would certainly say that Nitish Kumar having done so much for the state of Bihar,
13:47certainly doesn't deserve his health issues to become a talking point in these elections.
13:52He has given Biharis a sense of pride. There are enough and more issues to be discussed in these elections.
13:59So I'm going to shift focus from that and bring in Dr. Manisha Priyam who joins us as well.
14:05Dr. Manisha Priyam, I tend to agree with what Chirak Paswan says here.
14:09That there is nothing called friendly fight. You are either fighting or your friends.
14:16Yeah, so that tells you that on both sides you can say oh the scale is more there and the scale is less here.
14:26There are issues of political start-ups. Look parties like Chirag Paswan or even more the Hum are really not Pan Bihar parties or not even parties with very large mass base.
14:41And on the other side you also have something like the VIP or the I.P.
14:46Nobody even refers to I.P. Gupta's party as the name of that party.
14:51So specific sub-Jati based sub-caste or Jati based parties.
14:56So these are not parties with the programmatic and ideological appeal.
15:00And I think on both sides genuinely there are gut bandhans.
15:04There are not political parties but gut bandhans.
15:07And different order of magnitude but both sides have had these problems.
15:11And it seems both sides are also punishing some of the political start-ups.
15:16I mean Chirag Paswan certainly remains an unsettled issue with Mr. Nitish Kumar.
15:22Nobody can deny the fact that Nitish Kumar was politically very upset about what had been done to him
15:29to reduce his might to a number 43.
15:32And I think those issues still remain.
15:35So if we take it that Nitish Kumar is politically very active and leading his party
15:41then certainly it will be the case that he is asking his coalition partner that
15:46look we need to corner this gentleman for what he did to my party in the last elections.
15:51And if he is politically inactive then let's say that across the BJP and the J.D.U.
15:57So while they need Chirag Paswan they are also trying to say that okay this is your specific role.
16:03So the BJP perhaps needs this small political start-up but also wants them to be in their particular place.
16:10What's happening on the other side nobody can understand.
16:13Because there the Congress and the RJD are not coming to an agreement apart from whatever may have happened with VIP etc.
16:19that's now in the past.
16:21But the Congress and the RJD sparring over seats that seems like the bigger magnitude issue right now.
16:27Absolutely I mean all the momentum which was evident initially seem to have been lost in this bickering
16:34which is playing out and close to 12 seats at the moment where this is going to be like a friendly fight.
16:40Sajjan Kumar as someone who has been doing extensive research on ground do you say
16:46do you think now that this image of Tejasvi and Rahul Gandhi not being in sync.
16:54I'm taking the name of these two leaders is because let's be clear I mean it's leaders who fight these battles.
16:59Yes their lieutenants play an important role but if there was difference of opinion over seat sharing
17:06then Tejasvi and Rahul Gandhi could have spoken over the phone and sort of settled this out.
17:11But it's evident that they are also not making enough effort.
17:14Yes precisely and that's leading to what you call loss of perception because in electoral arena
17:21before winning election you need to win the war of perception.
17:24Yes.
17:25And certainly in war of perception the parameters are leadership coherence which is not there in Mahagatbandal.
17:31Then you have about the narrative coherence which is not there because we do not know whether it's the SIR
17:36vote chori issue, it's the one job to every family issue or it's the EBC centrality promised by the Congress.
17:43So what is the narrative synchronization that's not there.
17:46And then you also see the kind of what they are calling friendly fight.
17:50So it's creating a sort of a perception loss already.
17:53So in terms of the war of perception you already see an edge among the NDA constituents.
18:00And that way Rahul Gandhi and Tejasvi needed to have some sort of a chemistry.
18:06Because certainly the Congress-in-Chair Dalavori and Tejasvi and there were credible reports
18:10they were not at the good terms.
18:11Not many meetings had happened until two weeks back between the two leaders.
18:16So that way it has created a sort of loss of momentum for the challenger.
18:22This is one.
18:23Two also you see, with regard to you take two leaders Rahul Gandhi and Tejasvi.
18:28What is the problem?
18:29Rahul Gandhi talks about vote chori which is not the talking point right now.
18:33He talks about giving centrality to the EBC, government jobs to EBC, some land for the plots in urban areas.
18:40But you see the ticket distribution.
18:42How many EBCs have been fielded by the Congress?
18:46You cannot have a radical narrative and a very conventional practice in reality.
18:50Ticket distribution, yes.
18:51Exactly.
18:52Exactly.
18:53So that's the gap.
18:54And also you see Tejasvi.
18:55When Tejasvi needed to send a sort of a message.
18:59Because when you talk about the caste censors create a sort of baujan and a radical baujan mobilization
19:04which is a traditional upper caste, you cannot afford to fill around 40% of your own caste men
19:11as the candidates.
19:12Because where is the caste diversity?
19:14Yes, that has a significant percentage, but that doesn't mean they will cater to the other's aspirations.
19:20So that you see this sort of a lack of chemistry between the top leaders of the constituent,
19:25primarily Rahul Gandhi and Tejasvi, is leading to a loss of war of perception.
19:30And there is certainly the ND as an edge.
19:32Yes.
19:33So they do not have the arithmetic edge.
19:36And now you have the chemistry failing as well, Dr. Pooja Tripathi.
19:40This is certainly not good news for Mahagarbandan.
19:44You may call it chemistry failing, you may call it collapsing,
19:47but Mahagarbandan is solid on front and they will file the election.
19:52They will file the election for the issues of people centric.
19:55What matters to people?
19:57Festivals around the corner.
19:59Look at very, very simple thing.
20:01Air fare has cost 5000 plus rupees from Delhi to Bihar.
20:06And it's not a per capita income in the state.
20:09And look at these trees.
20:10They have been clogged into the neck.
20:14And that's what I'm saying.
20:15In these elections, people will vote out a government that has delivered absolutely nothing in 20 years.
20:21Be it poverty, be it health indicators, be it education, be it massive corruption that is going on,
20:27be it everything, be it the biggest problem, the unemployment.
20:32And that's what we are saying.
20:33People will vote out the present government and Mahagarbandan would fight as a formidable force,
20:40fight as a unified force.
20:41There are some frictions.
20:42I'm accepting that.
20:43There are some frictions.
20:44And I think while the second phase, the list would be out.
20:49The second phase, the date, the timeline date ends.
20:53The nominations for the second phase is also over, ma'am.
20:57Now, we are looking at just two days when the second phase candidates will have to withdraw theirтАж
21:04Yes.
21:05So, withdrawal has to happen on 22nd.
21:07So, what we are looking at is in a number of these seats, the friendly fight, the parent-friendly fight will continue,
21:14which certainly is giving disadvantage to your coalition or alliance here.
21:20There is not even a single press conference which have been jointly done by Rahul Gandhi, Tejasvi Yadav so far.
21:26There have been no effort of imagery which is so essential soon after the election dates were announced.
21:33That hasn't happened.
21:35So, when it is about unity, that is evidently not there, ma'am.
21:40Can you please point out a joint press conference done by BJP, JDU, with Chirag Paswan and everybody?
21:47We saw Amir Shah Ji saying that Vidhayat, before Vipish Kumar's face, they were fighting elections.
21:52Now, Chirag Paswan is saying that Vidhayat will decide, Amir Shah Ji saying that Vidhayat will decide.
21:57Okay, that's the question. That's the question. I'll ask Sanjay Kumar.
22:02Dr. Sanjay Kumar, you know the question that was raised, or should I say the manner in which the Home Minister explained the process,
22:10has given some kind of confusion in the minds of JDU.
22:15We certainly know that in 2020, the vote transfer was easier from the BJP to the JDU, but it did not really happen the other way around.
22:29You have to unmute yourself.
22:35Sorry.
22:36Maria, I also told yesterday in your show that please listen to what Amir Shah Ji said in Saran, when he gave a speech addressing the electors.
22:47He said that Bihar is only safe and going to be safe in the hands of Nitish Ji and Modiji.
22:55You know, so that clearly means that what he says, you know, when he meant by saying that we are fighting the election under the leadership of Nitish Ji.
23:04So we don't have any doubt, you know, it's, it's, you know, like the Congress spokesperson and RJDA spokesperson, you know, they are, they are trying to come up with these thoughts and ideas and, you know, trying to create some confusion because they don't see any coherence among themselves.
23:22She was mentioning about, you know, you asked about joint press conference, you, everybody watched that there were several meetings among NDA leaders together, you know, from Patna to Delhi.
23:34Did you see any joint meeting after Rahul Gandhi left Bihar and went to Colombia?
23:41Did you see any meeting together?
23:43No.
23:44You know, even when Tejasviji wanted to meet him in Delhi, he could not meet.
23:49So there has been no meeting whatsoever among themselves.
23:53And on the other hand, we had series of meetings.
23:56We finalize our candidates.
23:58We are, you know, like we are on the roads.
24:00We are, we are, our chief minister is going and everyone in the prime minister is going to come to Bihar and going to address the electors, you know.
24:10So, so we are far ahead.
24:12The kind of perception that they are leaving the vote is very poor, very poor.
24:17Very poor, very poor.
24:18But let me, let me bring in Sajjan and he'll give the exact statistic.
24:22Sajjan, in how many seats in 2020, the, the votes transfer between the BJP and the JDU did not happen?
24:29So it was basically all the 112 seats wherein JDU has the candidate and the strike rate of Chirag Paswan, overall Chirag Paswan got around 5.8, that is 6% votes.
24:41But on the seats he contested, therein Chirag Paswan's strike rate was 10.5, almost 10 to 11% of the votes, right?
24:49So that way, that 11% of vote, what is the social background?
24:53Overwhelmingly, around 70% of the candidates came from upper caste, right?
24:58So it is considered to be the core BJP vote.
25:01So, Nitish Kumar suffered precisely because that 11% vote that should have come from BJP core support to JDU did not come to JDU.
25:10And therefore, this time you see that that vote percentage is expected to come overwhelmingly to Nitish Kumar.
25:16You know, so that way this time Chirag Paswan openly is endorsing Nitish Kumar.
25:21He is saying that there were exceptions last time and this time there is a sort of unity.
25:26So you see the coherence.
25:27Mind it also that this time least anti-incumbency is going to be faced by JDU because it has least number of candidates among the three big parties.
25:38That's right.
25:39Just 43, right?
25:40Compared to BJP and, and RJT.
25:43So that way you find this time that certainly in terms of the chemistry and arithmetic.
25:48Arithmetic because you have a new social base, be it upper caste, be it Paswan Dalit, and be it the women-centric schemes which have been rejuvenated.
25:56And also because of the chemistry, because you see from Chirag Paswan to others, they all are talking in same directions, right?
26:04Even if there are certain differences.
26:07The same directionality, unit directionality is something which is missing from the Ghat Bandhan.
26:12When despite, it seems that Congress is into a state of dilemma whether to assert itself or whether to adjust for the sake of alliance.
26:22But that dilemma should have been earlier.
26:25It can't be at this junction.
26:27You know, when the elections are around the corner, two weeks to go and the Congress or any political party cannot be in dilemma to decide on what narrative it is fighting on.
26:37That's not clear.
26:38I haven't heard any of the Congress leaders even right now.
26:42Dr. Pooja Tripathi hasn't spoken about what Tejasvi has.
26:45About one job per family.
26:47That is not the talking point of the Congress party.
26:49They are not taking that to the people of Bihar.
26:51So how will that chemistry work?
26:53That is also the question.
26:55Yes, go ahead, Sanjay Kumar.
26:57The challenge certainly is, Sanjay Kumar, that on a number of seats where the Chirak factor damaged Nitish Kumar, Nitish Kumar's party candidates in 2020.
27:13What happens on those seats?
27:15Will you be ensuring that the JDU ensures the vote transfer to Chirak Paswan's candidates on 29 seats?
27:24And how will the vice versa happen because of the acrimony which played out in 2020?
27:29Of course.
27:30So this year's election is much, much different than 2020.
27:35You know, it was an unfortunate situation where, you know, things did not go well among NDA.
27:42I'm like, especially with Chirak ji putting all his candidates separately.
27:47But this time the coordination is at very, very high level and it's very coherent.
27:52So we are, and the team on the ground, the JDU team, BJP team, LJP team, everywhere, you know, we are putting one poster, one thing like it's an NDA candidate.
28:03You know, it's not like JDU candidate, LJP candidate or BJP candidate.
28:07Okay.
28:08Will that really play out?
28:09Ajay Alok.
28:10Ajay Alok.
28:11Ajay Alok.
28:15Well, Mariya.
28:16First of all, you need to understand.
28:18You were talking about turmoil in the Mahagadbandhan.
28:21There is no oil left in the Mahagadbandhan.
28:23It's actually a thaghbandhan, it's a fraudbandhan.
28:26Rashani Javais.
28:28They're out to cheat each other and we have no comparison.
28:32is in India is no way compared to this Mahathagwandan. Here India is the proud five partners who have
28:38completely trust and understanding, which clear-cut seat mentioning, which clear-cut the candidates
28:43coming out in the front and taking the election head-on. And there is so much confusion and so
28:48much chaos in this Thagwandan. There is no oil left in this turmoil. The Bihar election is
28:53straight away heading like 2022 Gujarat elections, where we are going to come out 225 out of 243,
28:59that's for sure. And you can see that the Congress that the Congress spokesperson doesn't know
29:05because they don't have a figure from the AICC that how many candidates Congress is contesting in
29:09Bihar. She cannot answer. She couldn't answer because she doesn't have any data. Even the
29:13Congress party here sitting in Patna, they don't know how many candidates are going to field more.
29:18Okay, how many seats is the Congress contesting on ma'am? There's an official candidate list
29:24released by Congress. When you, when you actually... Nominations are over. There is no
29:30official list. Yes, so people are nominated. Nominations are over but there is no official list.
29:35They are actually filing nominations. The question here is... How can they file nominations?
29:42Nominations are over. The nominations got over yesterday. You can't file nominations anymore. What can happen is withdrawal of nomination for the second phase.
29:53Yes, please go ahead.
30:00For Rahul Gandhi, there will be third phase of nomination after five years.
30:04Let me ask you one simple question. Tell me one instance, Chiragpaaspan has come out and say that we are fighting this issue of the dealership of Niti.
30:11She'll give me one single statement of it. She hasn't. So, when your house is not the...
30:19Chiragpaaspan is on the groundwork. General Manji advises Mishraji to declare CM candidate Niti.
30:27But we actually comfortably avoid this.
30:30Okay, I'll ask the producer to fix that audio. Because Pooja, there is a problem with your audio.
30:35Allow the producer to fix that audio. But let me bring in Dr. Manisha Priyam again.
30:39Dr. Manisha Priyam, two contrasting images from 2020 to now.
30:432020, the Mahagat Bandhan looked united. There were efforts to come up with a new narrative.
30:50There was freshness in Tejasvi Yadav's campaign to now. In 2025, Mahagat Bandhan is looking disintegrated.
30:57Tejasvi Yadav is speaking about one job per family. Rahul Gandhi is speaking about SIR.
31:03Where are the two alliances when you were to compare it to last time?
31:07So, what you're doing now is doing a programmatic comparison, right?
31:16Now, let me tell you that in the last innings of this election, I think there has been a heavy outpouring of programmatic offerings to the electorate from both sides.
31:29The BJP came up with the cash transfer scheme, which is the Mukha Mantri, Yojana, of which 75%, two-thirds was transferred actually by the prime minister.
31:42And 25% was transferred by the chief minister. So, that was the programmatic offering on that side.
31:50On Tejasvi's side, there is the promise of one Sarkari Naukri per family. That is what he is talking about.
32:01And the SIR is something on which we are not discussing this, but the CPIML are important constituents.
32:08The left parties totally are important constituents of the Mahagatbandhan. And Rahul Gandhi, the left and Tejasvi seemed together on that plank and platform.
32:22Definitely on that issue, it's Rahul Gandhi who was leading. Definitely on the jobs promise, there is Tejasvi who is leading.
32:29So, I don't think on the programmatic offerings, both sides seem very coordinated, be it the prime minister or the chief minister with their 75-25 ratio of cash transfers.
32:40Or on the other side, the programmatic issue of pointing out what Rahul Gandhi feels are issues with elections as they are being currently conducted and Tejasvi's offering.
32:51Now, even in the last election, it was Tejasvi who had become the face of saying that, look, we will give jobs to the UR work.
32:58So, I don't think the issues lie on the programmatic offerings. Both sides did it last moment, but they did it.
33:05The real issues are the issues of collaborating or coordinating within themselves for the seats.
33:12As I can't see, I don't have a screen, but as someone pointed out, an esteemed co-panelist pointed out, Chirag Paswan's party is supposed to be a Dalit, Mahadalit face.
33:23Yes, look at the fact that they actually feel the upper caste. An important erstwhile Ramvila Spaswan loyalist Surajvahan Singh is jumped over to the RJD side.
33:35Look at the fact that Nitish Kumarji did fast track courts to arrest the accused then or charged for the G Krishnaia assault and murder Anand Vaughan Singh.
33:48On the eve of this election, Anand Vaughan Singh is released. So, if all was well, I think the parties would not be relying on the strong arm tactics and doing everything they could to go to the voters.
34:01I think these are highly localized election. Even for each of the stronger political parties, the small votes, the smaller leaders matter.
34:10You know, Upender Kushwaha for example, on this side, very poor track record of being able to win his own elections either in Ujjadpur or in Karakat in the last Lok Sabha elections.
34:22But the fact that he made a face and he was seen as bargaining for what was that about? I mean, he does not even win his own seats. One kept quiet, but that was not a great show.
34:33But yes, definitely the NDA has managed that home better. The other side has not managed that home better.
34:40So, let the elections begin. I think we will see various episodes part 1 programmatic and issue
34:46poising, part 2 ticket distribution, then part 3 election campaigns, part 4 voting and part 5 results.
34:55So, I see these as separate serials or separate episodes of the same serial as you may like to call it.
35:02And I do not think that people will remember the fighting over 11 seats rather than look at what Yasvi has to say
35:10or the fact that they are drawn by the ideology of the RGD and its combination of the MY.
35:16I think core voters will go where they go. It is the swing voters who will make up their mind on whether the programmatic offerings are better
35:24or whether they need to look at the internal squabbles and fights before they make up their mind.
35:29Okay. All right. I think that's the right way to sum up this discussion.
35:32Thank you so much for joining us, Dr. Pooja Tripathi, Sanjay Kumar, Ajayalok, Manisha Priyam and Sajjan Kumar.
35:38Now, let's take a look at everything that's happening in poll-bound Bihar.
35:42Nitish Kumar, as I said, has launched his poll campaign.
35:46He took a swipe at Lalu Yada for doing nothing for women. In fact, in Muzaffarpur, Nitish Kumar said he was disillusioned with the RJD headed by Lalu Prasad after two short-lived alliances.
36:00He also vowed to remain firmly with the NDA.
36:03The Jharkhan Mukti Morcha of Hemant Sorain is feeling cheated after being denied any seat in Bihar.
36:14JMM is said to have felt duped and sidelined after the party was denied a seat.
36:23JMM has alleged that both the Congress and the RJD acted cunningly and failed to consider or concede its demand.
36:30Rashaan Kishore has alleged that three candidates of his Jan Suraj party contesting the Bihar polls were forced to withdraw their nominations under pressure from the BJP.
36:45Just this comes after the nomination of Jan Suraj candidate was rejected.
36:53And Delhi woke up to a blanket of toxic smog a day after Diwali as air quality plunged into the very poor category.
37:06As the air quality improved through the day, political war awards raged Delhi.
37:10Government tore into Ahmadnipati government in Punjab, accusing them of burning stubble that led to, in fact, air quality deteriorating in the national capital.
37:21Minister Maninder Sirsa claimed that Ahmadnipati is trying to shift blame to cracker burning on Diwali.
37:28Delhi's environment minister also alleged that religious bias has led to this.
37:33And he has condemned Keshriwal's fire cracker ban and called to stop Diwali's elaborations, calling it an attack on Sanatana Dharma.
37:41The controversy shows no signs of cooling down at the moment and former Delhi Mantri and Ahmadni Party Neta have all hit out at Delhi government with an illiterate jibe, claiming that the stubble burning claims are baseless and that Punjab's AQI is around 156.
37:58The public party is aware of the people who want to burn the horses, trying to burn the horses, trying to burn the horses and burn the horses.
38:11This public party is the public party in the state of Arvind Keshriwal's government.
38:15The public party has been released for 10 years of Rota and Punjab.
38:20the
38:47foreign
39:17production is growing, that 10-11 years ago, the government of the government,
39:23the government of the government had no
39:44This is why my opinion is that they will try to make a narrative for this kind of narrative.
39:54What are you talking about?
39:56What are you talking about?
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40:32I think the fact that this government you know kind of made it more like a political issue rather than an environmental issue
40:39went and got crackers permission then without really ascertaining that green crackers A are they available
40:44are they affordable and do they really make an impact on the kind of pollution would have I think
40:49they took a hasty step both parties are equally culpable I mean Aam Aadmi party when they didn't have a government
40:54in Punjab put all the blame on Parali BJP is doing exactly the same thing and both of them don't
41:00realize that 11 years of complete misrule and misgovernance by Aravind Kejriwal has put us in
41:05this situation one major you know thought process that needs to change here you know for government
41:11it's not this government even the earlier government that you want to always clean up the pollution
41:16you know pollution career so that means whether it's your smog tower or your smog
41:24gun or sprinkling the water so create pollution and then you you know kind of do things too that is
41:30not the right approach the approach is only to work on the sources of emissions that is the only way
41:35you know we'll be able to get rid of this really really big it's a public health emergency and it's
41:41not a just a regular you know problem and now let me take you through some images of Delhi before and
41:48after Diwali just take a look at those images the clear skies across Delhi before Diwali which turned
41:55into hazy gray smog after the Diwali night and the images on your screen shows Delhi's air quality that
42:04is the AQI before and after Diwali of course there are multiple reasons which has led to this smog or the
42:13blanket of haze which is something that Delhiites woke up to this morning those are the dates on which
42:21these pictures were clicked and how smoggy Delhi looks now and day after Prime Minister Narendra Modi celebrated Diwali
42:34aboard India's pride that is Zionist Vikrant with the navy personnel a major political storm has erupted
42:41over that celebration the BJP has hit out at the Congress saying that India has seen many Congress
42:46Prime Ministers in the past but only Prime Minister Modi has shown the nation what it means to find
42:52family among our forces taking a sharp dig the saffron party reminded the Congress of how former Prime
42:58Minister Rajiv Gandhi allegedly misused Zionist Virat for a family vacation in Lakshadip back in 1987
43:05contrasting that with Modi's Diwali which they said was about service not privilege the party hailed
43:13Prime Minister Modi's tradition of celebrating every Diwali with soldiers from Siachen to Cargill calling it
43:19a symbol of patriotism over privilege but the Congress isn't holding back senior leader Tariq Anwar has
43:25countered it sharply saying that it's natural for leaders to celebrate festivals with their families
43:30and that Rajiv Gandhi did the same Anwar even took a personal swipe saying that Prime Minister Modi's
43:36choice stems from compulsion as he as he has no family to celebrate
43:41comment and then how does the trip I did not compare to the state in the state of the entire
43:46world and I think that the whole world will be the same as the ones who have been there that
43:54is with a relationship between itself and I have the same material in my family I know that it is the only
43:56platform for my people who have become with the powers I know I have the same as the fact that it is what the
43:58people of my family are allowed to create a mission for their families and I have the same thing to have for a
44:04Oh
44:05yes
44:06yeah
44:08no
44:09not
44:10I
44:12can
44:13I
44:14can
44:16I
44:17I
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44:20have
44:22I
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44:25I
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44:27I
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44:30I
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44:31I
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44:32I
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44:33I
44:34We are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are in the country,
44:39we are always with our family.
44:42Yes.
44:43It's okay, it's a good thing with the soldiers.
44:46But in which case, you have to see this.
44:49If you don't have family, you don't have children, then you will do it.
44:54Then you will do something like that,
44:56you can make them with their family,
44:59you can make them with their family.
45:02If you don't have family,
45:04then you are taking them with their family,
45:06and if they are making them with their family,
45:09or if they are making them with their family,
45:13then it's a good thing.
45:15We don't say them bad,
45:17but it's their responsibility.
45:19Because when family happens,
45:21they also do something for family.
45:23It's also their responsibility.
45:25If we and you are working with family,
45:27then it's our responsibility to understand their family
45:30and they also have some time.
45:33And Yash Raj films,
45:36Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge,
45:38starring Shah Rukh Khan and Kajol,
45:40has been unanimously hailed as one of Indian cinema's
45:43most loved romantic films.
45:45For 30 years, DDLJ's iconic on-screen pair,
45:50Raj and Simran,
45:51have been synonymous with love in the country.
45:53Here's a special report by Sana,
45:56from Mumbai's iconic,
45:58Maratha Mandir.
46:00The year was 1995,
46:01when Raj and Simran met in Europe.
46:02The year was 1995,
46:03when Raj and Simran met in Europe.
46:05and fell in love.
46:26The year was 1995,
46:28when Raj and Simran met in Europe
46:30and fell in love.
46:31But Simran's father wanted her to marry the man of his choice.
46:46And so, they flew back to India from London.
46:49But Raj followed suit and tried hard
46:54to win over Simran's family.
46:56After a world-willed romance in Punjab's Sarsoke Khet,
47:01a lot of drama and some action,
47:04Baoji finally lets her go.
47:07Jaa Simran jaa,
47:09ji le aapni zindagi.
47:10Aapne Raj ke paas jaa.
47:12Jaa Simran,
47:14jaa ji le aapni zindagi.
47:16Jaa beeta, jaa.
47:18And thus, gave us one of the most iconic love stories.
47:22Dilwale Dulanya le chayenge.
47:25We are here at Mumbai's Maratha Mandir,
47:40which continues to screen the film since its release.
47:43Making it India's longest-running film
47:46and one of the most successful films ever made.
47:51Located just a short walk from Mumbai's Central Railway Station,
47:54Maratha Mandir has been dedicating one show
47:57every day to this Yash Raj classic.
48:00Even with its humble settings, fans not just from Mumbai,
48:05but from across the country still come here
48:08to relive the magic of Raj and Simran.
48:11The ticket prices remain surprisingly affordable,
48:14just around Rs 30 and Rs 50.
48:19And the theatre seats more than a thousand people.
48:22And if you are wondering about the craze,
48:25the staff here says that the Sunday shows still go house-full.
48:29I'm sorry.
48:44DDLJ marked the directorial debut of Aditya Chopra
48:48and gave Shah Rukh Khan his most iconic romantic character, Raj.
48:52It also earned him the title of the king of romance.
49:00A name fans continue to call him even today.
49:04And here's a fun bit of trivia.
49:06Tom Cruise was once considered for the role.
49:09Imagine how that would have turned out.
49:12It's been 30 years.
49:14Generations have grown up and outgrown many films and love stories.
49:19But Dilwale Dulanya Le Jayenge continues to remain a favourite among audiences.
49:24When I was in first, second standard, that time I was seen in the movie theatre.
49:33Now for these kids we came back again.
49:35So we are very excited to watch that movie again.
49:52If audience really comes after three decades,
49:5530 years is a very long time.
49:57And I'm quite excited to see so many people are still coming.
50:00What is this film that you are watching this film daily?
50:03How good you are watching this film today?
50:05For this film?
50:06Maratha Mandir has a history where the DDLJ has been playing for a lot of years.
50:10So I want to be a part of that experience.
50:12And I want to see how the people will be reacting inside the theatre.
50:21The owner Manoj Desai in an earlier interview had mentioned how some people have watched the film
50:27200 to even 500 times.
50:29He credited its success to performances.
50:32The music and the perfect balance between family values and following one's heart.
50:37The true recipe behind DDLJ's Timeless Appears.
50:41I have come here to make your talent.
50:43And I will take you from here.
50:45When your father himself, your hand is in my hand.
50:48The film is totally good.
50:49Take a dialogue, take a scene.
50:51And the people who have worked in this world,
50:55who are the people who are the people who are not in this world,
50:58we remember them all and keep growing up.
51:00The new generation is also watching this.
51:03And the people who are interested in this work are coming.
51:05Whenever you meet me, you are going to be disappointed.
51:08In the big cities, there are little little things.
51:11After 30 years, Dilwale Dulanya Le Jayenge isn't just a film.
51:15It's an emotion.
51:16A cultural phenomenon.
51:18Raj and Simran's romance.
51:20SRK and Kajol's performances.
51:23The songs.
51:24The drama.
51:25The VRF magic.
51:27And the nostalgia at Maratha Mandir.
51:30All make DDLJ relevant even today.
51:33As they say, some stories never grow old.
51:43From first time watchers to people who've watched the films hundreds of times,
51:48DDLJ proves that true love and a well-made film never go out of style.
51:53To 30 years and many more, cheers to Dilwale Dulanya Le Jayenge.
51:58With camera person Sahil Shavan, Sana Farzeen signing off from India Today Mumbai.
52:03Thank you, Eva Farzee.
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