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This edition of Newstrack focusses on the escalating war of words between the NDA and Mahagatbandhan over who is NDA's Chief Minister face in Bihar.
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00:00showdown over sushahsan babu
00:06after tejasvi puppet taunt
00:12rahul gandhi's remote jide
00:30nd endorses nitish for chief minister
00:41shakliya's suspense on chief minister face
00:45cm ya pm koi bhi seat khali nahi hai
00:50yahaan nitish kumar ji hai wahaan modi ji
00:59nda versus mahagat banthan over bihar's chief minister
01:08who has won the perception war state of war bihar
01:15hello everyone welcome to news track bihar edition
01:20with less than seven days to go for the campaigning for the first phase to end
01:25today was the day of big political rallies rahul gandhi who has been largely
01:31missing in action from bihar did his first political rally along with tejasvi
01:37yada and was today was also the day when home minister amit shah addressed public meetings
01:44and clarified that there should not be any doubt on who will be the chief minister if nda indeed
01:50wins power gets power returns to power on 14th but rahul gandhi has quoted controversy let's first
01:58listen in to what rahul gandhi said and then i bring in the guests
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02:26I am the only one who wants to vote.
02:30If you say that you will vote like this,
02:33you will do so, they will vote for the vote.
02:38Whatever you do, you will do.
02:40I say that you will say that we will vote for you.
02:44You will come and go and run and run.
02:46They will run.
02:50They will run and run and run.
02:52Modi ji, come on stage, don't give a speech, dance, we will vote for you.
02:59Whatever you do, do it before you do it.
03:05Whatever you do before you do it before you do it before you do it,
03:09after Narendra Modi will not die.
03:13So Rahul Gandhi there saying that Prime Minister Modi is ready to do anything for the sake of votes.
03:26Now the reaction has come in from Rekha Gupta, Chief Minister of Delhi.
03:31Remember, she was the one who was facing the charge of creating that artificial pool.
03:36Let's listen in to what the Delhi Chief Minister said on Rahul Gandhi's comment.
03:43These people who can do something for the government,
03:50who can do something for the country,
03:56who can say something about someone,
03:59who can say something about someone's mother,
04:02who can do their actions, vote for the people,
04:07which they have sent a person on the other side.
04:10They say,
04:15So let me bring in the guests who are joining us now.
04:41Manish Bariyar is the spokesperson of the BJP.
04:45We have Dr. Sanjay Kumar from the JDU.
04:48Ejaz Ahmed, the RJD spokesperson, is joining us.
04:53We also have Congress spokesperson, Dr. Madhu Bala.
04:58Before I get in a reaction from all of them, in fact, Dr. Madhu Bala, if you're through with us,
05:03and also a question that I would ask Ejaz Ahmed.
05:06Ejaz Ahmed, Rahul Gandhi here saying clearly that anything will be done by the BJP for the sake of words.
05:16The question is that if it's about battlefield, then isn't it about Sam, Dam, Dandbhed?
05:22That everything has to be done to ensure that the public votes for you?
05:27The question is, Rahul Ji has said that the truth is true.
05:40foreign
06:10Thank you very much.
06:40Vardhan Mantri ji jiis-tara ka vata-varan ka nirman kye thai, us vata-varan ka pol khul gya.
06:46Or wo Aastha ke maha parv mein logo ke bhaawnao ke saath khilwaar kye, unke bhaawnao ko ahad kye,
06:52or kahi na kahi jo bhaaraja shen ki bathe kye thai,
06:56that this is about hurting the sentiments.
06:59When Rahul Gandhi highlights that the BJP and the Prime Minister is ready to do anything for the sake of words,
07:05it's about also hurting sentiments vis-a-vis in the context of festivities.
07:11Manish, if you heard me.
07:25Okay, good evening to you.
07:27I thought the question was to Hidazi.
07:30Can you please repeat the question?
07:31Because I thought that it is to Hidazi.
07:34Yes, the question is what Rahul Gandhi has said.
07:40On that line, what Rahul Gandhi said, that you are ready to do anything for the sake of words.
07:46I don't know.
07:47I think that was a very unfortunate kind of a statement.
07:50And we know Rahul Gandhi very well what he is capable of and what he is not capable of.
07:55He has spoken so many things that are unpalatable.
07:59And we don't expect anything better than from him.
08:02What can you expect?
08:04Does he understand Chhat Pooja is what he is capable of?
08:08I don't know that in the past few years,
08:11the Congress of the government, 60-75 years,
08:14you will say that you are always talking about this.
08:16But to do something for the people,
08:18to respect their values,
08:20to respect their values,
08:22the Congress party has never done it.
08:24In Delhi, it's been a kind of a shame.
08:26It's been a kind of a shame.
08:29The Congress party was able to do it first.
08:31But the Congress party has never done it.
08:34And Izaadzid is saying that there is no train going on,
08:37so you can see it on the railway.
08:39He said that we will do it for 12,000 times.
08:43And he has shown us how many people are doing it.
08:47They have come to Chhat Pooja.
08:49And many videos you have...
08:51Manish, have you heard what the Delhi Chief Minister has said
08:56with regards to Bihar and Biharis?
08:58Please, just a few minutes ago,
09:00which we broke on the channel,
09:02that why the state is poor?
09:05Have you heard that?
09:07That your own Chief Minister is demeaning Bihar?
09:11No, what way?
09:11The fact is that the state has been governed by the JDU-led NDA for the last 20 years.
09:22And still it is being spoken.
09:24I would play that bite in just a bit.
09:27But first up, because we are speaking about the big rallies that were held today,
09:31and also Home Minister Amit Shah saying that there is no vacancy whatsoever
09:34for the Chief Ministerial and the Prime Ministerial post.
09:38Is this the final ceiling of the entire confusion which has played around
09:44with regards to the Chief Ministerial Chair,
09:46whether Nitish Kumar will be the Chief Minister at all?
09:48Let's listen in to what all happened today.
09:50And then I'm going to also play that sound bite of what Rekha Gupta said
09:54in the context of Bihar.
09:59For over two decades,
10:01this man has been synonymous with the role of Bihar's Chief Minister.
10:08A record nine times CM,
10:10the man is favourably known as Sushasan Babu
10:13and unfavourably known as Palturam at the same time,
10:16and now faces possibly his biggest political test yet.
10:24As Bihar gears up for its first vote in about a week,
10:27all eyes are on Nitish Kumar
10:29as to whether he will be Chief Minister once again,
10:32even if his alliance emerges victorious.
10:36And spurring on the speculation is his opposition,
10:39who in the past have also been his allies.
10:42Rahul Gandhi in his first major political rally in Bihar's Muzaffarpur,
10:46claiming that Nitish Kumar is just a remote control
10:49in the hands of the BJP.
10:51Of course, Rahul has echoed
11:13what his ally Tejasvi has been claiming all along
11:16that Bihar's talismanic CM was just a puppet.
11:19Aamit Shah Ji has said two points in this view.
11:26The first thing is that the CM's face will be
11:31after the view of the CM's.
11:33The first thing is that who will be the leader of the NDA,
11:35they will be the leader of the NDA.
11:37The first thing is that Nitish Kumar Ji and Bihar
11:41will be the next leader of the NDA.
11:43But wary of this narrative hijacking the poll discourse,
11:58the BJP has hit back,
12:00with Amit Shah Indar Bhanga
12:01giving his most emphatic endorsement yet
12:04of Nitish being the NDA CM face.
12:06Sonia Ji wants to make Rahul
12:12and Lalu Ji wants to make his son.
12:17I will tell both of them,
12:20CM or PM,
12:22there is no seat left here.
12:26Here is Nitish Kumar Ji.
12:28There is Modi Ji.
12:30Shah's statement summing up support
12:35from all NDA allies.
13:00He will follow up for us.
13:05The people of NDA know about this..
13:07It is 2,500.
13:08It is a huge issue.
13:08The government of NDA and then that
13:11is the government of NDA and this government
13:13should be in the United States.
13:15The government of NDA branches
13:17will also make sense to them new
13:17and new governments.
13:19The government of NDA is done
13:20on the news from NDA itself.
13:22The government of NDA
13:25will be in the news about
13:27India.
13:27The government of NDA
13:28will have in the news
13:29If you want to vote for NITESH Kumar, if you want to vote for NITESH Kumar,
13:35then you will vote for NITESH Kumar to make NITESH Kumar.
13:39100%! Why not?
13:43After weeks, the NITESH has finally come out emphatically stating that NITESH will be CM if the NITESH wins.
13:49But has it already risked losing the narrative war to the market bandhan?
13:53With Mariya Shaqeel and Patna, Bureau Report, India Today.
13:59Dr. Sanjay Kumar, coming on this, so finally you would be relieved that right from the top,
14:09Home Minister Amit Shah himself saying that there is no vacancy.
14:13Of course, you did build up a lot of pressure.
14:16Your leaders were consistently saying that NITESH Kumar is the Chief Minister and he will continue to be.
14:23But the BJP endorsing it and Home Minister Amit Shah himself endorsing it
14:27would certainly be a huge relief for you.
14:31So, Mariya, you know, in last 7 to 10 days, in whichever debate or show I, you know, came on TV,
14:41I quoted Amit Shah's previous speech in Saran, where he said, and I am quoting again that,
14:51Bihar will be safe under the hands of NITESH ji and Modiji only.
14:55You know, that was quite evident.
14:57But I know, means people were trying to read between the lines and trying to hear the CM
15:03word and all the leaders of BJP in the state and other NDA leaders, you know, they kept saying
15:11very clearly.
15:13And even our leaders and we ourselves acknowledge this fact.
15:17And yeah.
15:18So, you know, it's not a, it's nothing new to us.
15:20It's not a news to us.
15:22It may be a news for the, for the journalists and the TV channels.
15:27Okay.
15:28So, you are saying that there is no news in this.
15:30Not, no news in this, Dr. Sanjay Kumar.
15:33But the fact is that it was repeatedly, it, because, because it was repeatedly being asked
15:40by Tejasvi Yadav.
15:42In fact, he went to the extent of saying today, Rahul Gandhi said as well that NITESH Kumar
15:47will be a remote control chief minister.
15:50That the real strings would be, would be with the BJP leadership in Delhi.
15:56This is very interesting.
15:57So, are you not worried that if this narrative actually percolates, there is, there could
16:04be a sense among the JDU workers and JDU voters that if NITESH Kumar is not becoming
16:09the chief minister, then why should they ally with the JDU?
16:12That's, that's…
16:13The vote transfer will become an issue also from the JDU to the BJP.
16:18That's his narrative because Rahul Gandhi comes from a family of privileges where they
16:25always remained alakaman.
16:27You know, they always had remote control in their hands.
16:31And that is why they, they repeated, they keep feeling that, you know, everybody is controlling
16:37everyone.
16:38You know, that's his narrative.
16:39We don't believe in such narratives and we, we feel, we strongly believe that we are
16:46a one-fourth.
16:47Dr. Madhubala?
16:48Yes.
16:49Yes.
16:50Yes, Mayra.
16:51Okay.
16:52So they are a united force.
16:53You are not Dr. Madhubala.
16:55Uh…
16:56Will this entire issue be put to rest?
17:01Sorry?
17:02Now that Home Minister Amit Shah has said that there is no vacancy, then is this chapter
17:14closed?
17:15So there is, in Bihar there is no democracy?
17:18I can say, and we can say that democracy by the people and for the people and OFF of
17:24the people?
17:25How can we say that no vacancy of a CM?
17:30So I can ask from Dr. Sanjay, what is democracy?
17:37And what is the meaning of democracy?
17:39Bihar is the janani of democracy.
17:41Of course.
17:42Of course.
17:43I take your spirit.
17:44But what he meant to say is that people will re-vote to us in the power.
17:48That is what he meant to say.
17:50It's very clear.
17:51We are not challenging democracy.
17:52We believe in democracy.
17:53So what is the process of election, democracy or selection or election of our chief minister?
18:05What is the process?
18:06No, no.
18:07There is no janita?
18:08But…
18:09What is the process of election or democracy or selection or election of our chief minister?
18:16What is the process?
18:18No, no.
18:19But…
18:20While I understand the process that you are talking about.
18:23Let me bring in Manish again.
18:24In that case, you also announced the Jaspi Yadav.
18:26So what…
18:27Why did you announce the Jaspi Yadav as chief minister face?
18:29Why did you announce?
18:30As chief minister?
18:31Yeah.
18:32We are not saying that there is no vacancy.
18:35We are saying that when you ask the question of media, like Myra, we say that we have announced
18:41the chair.
18:42Like PM.
18:43You had announced the chair of the PM.
18:45We are saying that there is no vacancy.
18:46This is a 5.
18:47There is no vacancy.
18:48This is a 5.
18:49This is a 5.
18:50This is a narrative.
18:51Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, let's be clear about certain technicalities.
19:00Let's be clear about certain technicalities here.
19:04It's a poll-bound state and Nitish Kumar is the chief minister.
19:08Till the time a new government is formed, Nitish Kumar remains the chief minister.
19:13So when it is about vacancy, it's a political statement which has been made.
19:17I don't think so. It can be seen and interpreted the way it is being done by you all.
19:22This statement by our...
19:24No, I'm saying the interpretation may not be correct.
19:30Yes.
19:32Yes.
19:34Okay, let me bring in Manish.
19:36Manish, the question here is that it is certainly that the BJP leadership responded to pressure.
19:44They were understanding that the mood is changing on the ground with Tejasvi, Rahul Gandhi and the Mahagat Bandhan.
19:51I'm repeatedly asking Tejasvi versus who.
19:54Tejasvi Yadav even saying that Bihar will be governed by Biharis, not Baharis.
20:00And when I had asked him that question that Nitish Kumar is a Bihari, he is not a Bahari, to which he said that the real strings are with people outside Bihar.
20:09No, no. There was no pressure. In fact, all the viewers will remember that last time, JD had around 43 seats and BJP had more seats.
20:20And we invited Nitish because he is our leader. And he has been our leader since 2005. So when BJP had less seats, then Prime Minister himself invited him to be the leader. He has that kind of a stature.
20:35And he has earned that stature. See, Tejasvi has not earned anything. He has not shown anything. Rahul Gandhi has never worked as a minister. He has no locust stand-eye to really talk about development or anything for that matter.
20:51So where is the question of pressure? That is one. Second, when Bahari talking about Bahari, there was a Sanjayi Yadav behind him. Sanjayi Yadav is doing the whole ticket.
21:03Some people are going to leave it in Arvedi. He decides that Haryana decides that he has a ticket.
21:09So Bahari, he doesn't talk about it. What about Bahari? You have finished the whole party. What about Bahari?
21:16He says, he is not here. He is here. Right? So all this remote control culture, Dr. Sanjayi Yadav was right.
21:23This mind remote control doesn't come to a party like BJP. This party is a disciplined party and this is not a NEPO party. And even our JTU for that matter.
21:34Okay. Will you respond to that Madhubala? That this remote control idea has come to you. The manner in which the UPA functions.
21:42Yes, Ajaz. Yes, Ajaz. Ajaz Bhai. Please respond to that. Yes.
21:48Okay.
21:51A.
21:52Yeah.
23:01I have just enough time for Sanjay Kumar.
23:05Dr. Sanjay Kumar, 30 seconds to you.
23:10Dr. Sanjay Kumar, 30 seconds, quickly.
23:13Dr. Sanjay Kumar, 30 seconds, quickly.
23:15This is really, this is really disgusting.
23:18You know, they don't want to, they don't want to take this, you know, fact on them because
23:25they know that their battle is lost.
23:28That is why, you know, hearing out from…
23:29Dr. Sanjay Kumar, 30 seconds, please.
23:31Yes, go ahead.
23:33Dr. Sanjay Kumar, quickly respond.
23:3630 seconds.
23:37out the fact that you might quickly respond 30 seconds gearing out from amit sah you know
23:43that nitiz ji is our face you know now they are unable to digest the maha gadwandan is unable to
23:50digest and that is why you know they are they are you know like speaking in the in this tune
23:56all right it's their choice okay let's see whether that question is repeatedly asked what is this the
24:02end of that chapter of who will be the cm from the nda uh block uh thanks so much for watching
24:11and thank you to all the guests who joined us at this hour
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