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Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday launched NDA's election campaign in Samastipur, Bihar, where he invoked the 'Jungle Raj' charge against the Mahagathbandhan.
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00:00Good evening, you're watching To The Point. I'm Preeti Chaudhary.
00:02Before we get on to our big debate this evening, allow me to take you through the headlines.
00:11Prime Minister Modi's big jungle Raj attack at Mahagadbandhan says Bihar does not need lanterns and allies.
00:18Pays tribute to Karpuri Thakur accuses Mahagadbandhan of trying to steal Bharat Ratna, Karpuri Thakur's legacy.
00:30Aisii hai ki ab jananayak ki upadhi ki chori mein jhute hai.
00:36Bihar ke lok jananayak Karpuri babu ka yeh apaman kabhi nahi sahenge.
00:50Amidst politics over NDA and MGB, Chief Minister face pick Modi says NDA will win under Niteesh's leadership.
00:57Tejas we hit South says BJP won't make Niteesh see it.
01:06MGB starts to iron out friendly fight seats.
01:09Congress pulls out of two seats.
01:11VIP withdraws from one joint Mahagadbandhan manifesto on 28th October.
01:17At least 20 dead in horrific bus tragedy in Andhra's Kurnool.
01:27Bengaluru bound bus from Hyderabad catches fire after collision with bike.
01:31Over a dozen hospitalized with burn injuries.
01:34And sad news, one of India's most prolific geniuses passes away at just the age of 70.
01:46Prime Minister Modi leads tributes for radman Piyush Pandey,
01:51the genius behind the immortal Fevikal, Cadbury, Vodafone, Pagans,
01:55even the iconic Ab Ki Baar Modi Sarkar tagline.
02:07Alright, our top story.
02:09The first phase of Bihar elections is now truly all started.
02:14Two weeks away, the battleground is all set.
02:17NDA launched its first biggest star and might
02:21with the Prime Minister and Home Minister on the campaign trail on Friday.
02:25Spareheading the attack, the Prime Minister called the opposition
02:28Lathbandhan, basically taking a dig on what has been
02:33what Bihar's Jungle Raj charges on the Mahagadbandhan, especially the RJD.
02:39The Chief Minister face of the Grand Alliance,
02:41Tejas Vyadav dared NDA to name Niteesh Kumar
02:44as the Chief Ministerial candidate for 2025
02:48and not just the NDF fighting this election under his banner.
02:53And then, of course, there is the fight over the EBC votes
02:56because together they come in a formidable number.
02:59All of that now where the politics is at play in the state of Bihar.
03:05The battle lines are drawn.
03:15With both sides having taken their positions,
03:18the bugle has been blown and Bihar is all set for war.
03:21But this is the first time in big 12, which is a big old
03:40and a small economic injury worldwide .
03:42The biggest draw in this battle is who's going to be the chief minister of the state.
03:58After two decades of Nitish Kumar in the chair, the opposition hopes that the Nitish fatigue
04:03will work in their favor.
04:04As opposed to a 74-year-old candidate, Margat Bandhan has announced 35-year-old Tejasvi
04:09Adav as the chief ministerial face for the alliance.
04:14The NDA though, refuses to formally announce Nitish Kumar as the CM face and that is becoming
04:20ammunition for the MGB.
04:21I can say that this time in Bihar, Nitish Kumar in the NDA, the NDA has lost its own record of its own.
04:40Starting his Bihar election campaign
05:03from Jan Nayak Bharat Ratnakar Puri Thakur's
05:05birthplace in Samastipur,
05:07the Prime Minister tried to consolidate the EBC vote in India's favour.
05:37The Mahagadbandan indicated a possibility of a Deputy CM
05:42from the extremely backward caste if they come to power.
05:46But the Grand Alliance was criticised by both the BJP and the MIM
05:50for not picking a Muslim face for CM and Deputy CM.
06:07The Prime Minister spearheaded NDA's star election campaign in Bihar,
06:12a day after the Mahagadbandan put up a united face.
06:17The Prime Minister spearheaded NDA's star election campaign in Bihar,
06:21a day after the Mahagadbandan put up a united face.
06:26While the NDA reminded people of alleged Jangal Raj of the previous RJD regime,
06:30the Grand Alliance has resolved issues over several seats of not-so-friendly fights
06:34in Gwarsali Ganj, Babu Badhi and Pranapur.
06:39They now prepare to release the joint manifesto on the 20th of October.
06:42And so, the state of war in Bihar is all set.
06:45The Grand Alliance has resolved issues over several seats of not-so-friendly fights
06:49in Gwarsali Ganj, Babu Badhi and Pranapur.
06:53They now prepare to release the joint manifesto on the 20th of October.
06:58And so, the state of war in Bihar is all set.
07:02Bureau Report, India Today.
07:07Alright, so in true cliches, the poll bugle has been sounded.
07:10The state of war all set.
07:12Let's get in our political panellists this evening.
07:14Joining me, Dr. Sanjay Kumar, spokesperson, JDU Advocate Mahima Singh,
07:18National Spokesperson Congress, Saeed Zafar Islam,
07:21National Spokesperson BJP Priyanka Bharti, National Spokesperson RJD.
07:25I'd like to begin with the JDU spokesperson.
07:27And Dr. Sanjay Kumar, even today, you have the Prime Minister,
07:32who in a rally once again stated that this election is going to be fought
07:37under the leadership of Nitish Kumar.
07:39There was an opportunity to clear the air on naming him the chief ministerial face.
07:44But that didn't quite happen.
07:45Good evening, Priti.
07:49And, you know, I don't know if I told you in your show, but in some show,
07:54I have been mentioning about the rally which was addressed by Mr. Amit Shah in Saran,
08:02where he categorically stated that, you know, Bihar will remain safe under the leadership of Niteesh Ji and Modi Ji.
08:12And I keep referring to that statement.
08:14And I think you should also refer to that statement.
08:18I don't know why this is coming again and again.
08:21But as you know, I have told you as well earlier that…
08:25But Dr. Kumar, I'll tell you, why is this coming in again and again?
08:28It's coming in again and again because there has been no clear clarity from your ally.
08:32There have been multiple opportunities where it could have clearly been stated that it would be Nitish Kumar who would be the chief minister of Bihar.
08:40All the state leaders, all the state BJP leaders, the top leaders, they have stated this very clearly that he is going to be our face.
08:51He is the same face.
08:52All right, Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam, do you agree with that?
08:55Because, you know, the indication is, okay, the state leadership is saying he is going to be our chief ministerial face.
09:01Then why is the central leadership hedging?
09:07You have any doubt?
09:08I have none.
09:09Sir, I will only listen to your top leadership when it comes to making declarations.
09:15Well, top leader has also clarified, even today, the Honourable Prime Minister has very clearly stated that Nitish Ji is our leader.
09:27This election is being led by the Honourable Chief Minister, Mr. Nitish Kumar Ji.
09:33So there is absolutely, absolutely no headroom for any kind of speculation.
09:38He is our leader.
09:39He had been our leader.
09:40He is leading in Bihar for the last 20 years as Chief Minister, as NDA, and he will continue to do that.
09:47Is there any confusion?
09:49No, there is no confusion.
09:50Let me discuss a few other things.
09:51I want to know from the RJD spokesperson, and there is something which is being discussed on the street of Patna and elsewhere in Bihar,
10:01that whatever announcement has been so far made by Mr. Tejasvi Yaduji,
10:05all put together, if you total it, the kind of announcement he has made, it will amount to around 15-16 lakh, the size of the budget.
10:14He is already expenditure side of the budget.
10:16He has made the announcement.
10:18Now, I want to ask him, from where this revenue will come of 15-16 lakh crore, which has already been stated?
10:26He has gone on record, even yesterday in the press conference, he said that he will provide job, not job through private investment, attracting private investment,
10:37but he said, sarkari job, government job, to every household in Bihar.
10:42There are 280, 2 crore, 80 lakh household in Bihar.
10:4630 lakh household will have a job, but how about the remaining 2 crore, 50 lakh household?
10:53From where they will give, and if it all is promising, then how it will be funded.
10:58That is why the discussion between the Mahakadbandar partners, they were not naming.
11:02Mr. Rahul Gandhi wanted to name, maybe Tariq Anwar, maybe somebody else from Congress party,
11:09because he is a senior leader, and there was a tussle between the alliance partner, Mahakadbandar partners.
11:15That is why yesterday, from the, any, any press conference you see, from the, from the dais, every time, Mr. Jha was telling me,
11:25please send a message, the name, he said, he is used to announce and say, please give the message of, that we are together.
11:32Sir, you are saying, you are saying, Professor Manudha actually told you this.
11:39Mr. I, it seems that you haven't seen the press conference.
11:46No, I have seen the press conference, sir.
11:47Okay, okay, so he was saying that actually, okay, I thought it was, okay.
11:51So then you, how did you be seeing?
11:52No, fair point, fair point.
11:54No, sir, he, he was telling all his alliance partner to give a message, give, give a message.
11:58So message doesn't give, doesn't go purely because you have, you have stated something.
12:04Okay.
12:04Priyanka Bharti, the charge is, the charge is very clear, why are you so worried whether or not the NDA is announcing Nitish Kumar as chief ministerial face?
12:12It's been made very clear, this is going to be fought under his leadership, and he is the face.
12:17Is what at least the BJP spokesperson says, there is absolutely no ambiguity in that.
12:21You should be worried about the promises that you have made.
12:24You should be worried about the fake facade of unity, as pointed out by the BJP spokesperson.
12:32PtC, we are not worried about their CM face, because we know there will be no CM from NDA.
12:36It's only going to be Tejasvi Yadav.
12:38Secondly, when, when BJP spokesperson asked questions, where will we bring money from for procuring jobs for Biharis?
12:46I would like to ask, PM Modi said, 15 lakh har kisi ya khate mein jayenge.
12:52So multiplying 1.4 billion people into 15 lakhs, how much it is Zafar Islam ji?
12:572.1 into 10th of hour, 14, 15 years goes.
13:00Itne zoro hai hum count nahi kar pahenge.
13:02So, but, but again, I'm so happy to see Zafar Islam ji talking about jobs.
13:07How will you procure jobs?
13:08At least they are not calling Muslims namak haram today, as Giraj ji says.
13:12At least they are not doing so, so I'm happy that my leader brought this, this core issue of Biharis to the center of politics.
13:19And not only this, today you heard PM Modi came to Bihar.
13:22What did he speak?
13:234, 3, 4, 5 words.
13:25Latak matak, jhatak patak.
13:26That was what he talked about.
13:28But, but you, on the other hand, you saw Tejasvi Yadav, what he said when he went to Darbhanga?
13:32We will reopen the sugar meals in Darbhanga.
13:352 sugar meals, 1 ashok paper mill.
13:37That is what we are concerned about.
13:39You see, there is a lot of contrast when you look at the manifestos for Gujarat and manifesto for Bihar.
13:45Today also, in 2024, you saw what was their manifesto?
13:48Mangal Sutra Mandir Mujra Bakri Gai.
13:51That was their manifesto.
13:52And today it was 1 GB data for Pradhan Mantri ji.
13:55For Gujaratis, they have semiconductor power plants.
13:59For Gujaratis, they have nuclear plants.
14:01For Gujaratis, they have bullet trains.
14:03For Gujaratis, they have highways.
14:05For Biharis, they have 1 GB data.
14:06So that Pradhan Mantri ji's real voice, see how cute and wonderful videos Pradhan Mantri ji makes when he goes spending 89 crores in Brazil.
14:15No, we are not concerned about all these issues because what Bihar is concerned about is, is jobs, immigration, inflation, poverty, hunger.
14:24Before I bring in the Congress spokesperson, I just want to ask you something in a lighter vein.
14:28Priyanka Bharti ji, is Tejasvi Yadav taking a cue from the Prime Minister?
14:32Why is he speaking of himself in the third person?
14:36Tejasvi, if we will come, Tejasvi's, does this mean, when did he say it?
14:41They say it from the beginning, maybe it will not be listening to the first time.
14:44We are listening to the first time, he didn't say it in the previous class.
14:47In the previous class, whenever Tejasvi Yadav speaks, he speaks of himself in the third person.
14:52No, no, he said Tejasvi Yadav, 10 lakhs, 10 lakhs, 10 lakhs, 10 lakhs, 10 lakhs, 10 lakhs.
14:55And even if they say it, they say it in the third person.
15:00So it was just a random question.
15:02It was just intriguing all of us, what happened to us?
15:03On a lighter note, I am just also mentioning that when last time in 2020 elections, if you focus, Tejasvi ji said himself,
15:11Tejasvi Yadav will give 10 lakhs, 10 lakhs.
15:14And when he became deputy CM, he gave such jobs in the first class.
15:18So this is not the first time.
15:19No, it's on a lighter note.
15:21Kriyanka Bharti ji, it's a question that the newsroom was asking that why has Tejasvi Yadav suddenly started speaking of himself in the third person?
15:28But, okay, I want to bring in the Congress spokesperson into this conversation, Mahima Singh.
15:33Mahima Singh, it's in your words, your leader who said,
15:37What happened in honoring the 19% Muslim abadi of the state of Bihar?
15:44How come they are not getting their hak?
15:46The AIMIM is very clear in questioning that false promises, what they say, of Rahul Gandhi's.
15:53Jai Hind, Preeti, it is quite intriguing, your question, I'll come to that.
16:01But before that, I was looking at Prime Minister Modi's Samastipur visit today.
16:07His speech, and of course, my counterpart from Mahagatbandan, the RGD spokesperson, has shed a lot of light on, you know, the spoofs from the Prime Minister's speech.
16:17But let me just say that Modi knows his magic is waning now, and it is waning fast.
16:26You know, the way he spoke today wasn't even funny, Preeti.
16:30The chori jibe that he was trying to take today was not even pitiable.
16:34Because he, of course, knows of his history, of his ancestors who abused Karpuri Thakurji.
16:40He knows the history that brought Karpuri Thakurji's government to be crumbled, because RSS and Jansang opposed it.
16:48And opposed it, why?
16:49Because he wanted to give reservation, because he had given reservation.
16:55Well, we know, we know the word chori haunts him now.
17:00And like, how?
17:01Because the whole world is talking about the chori that has been done in broad daylight by Mr. Modi and his government.
17:08Whatever he may try to do, he's been calling himself the Jan Nayak for the past 11 years.
17:15His Twitter handle, you know, the BJP's Twitter handle, you will find is filled with Jan Nayak.
17:21But now that Bihar and the rest of the state are talking of Sri Rahul Gandhi as Jan Nayak,
17:29because he's awakened the chori that Mr. Modi has inflicted upon this country.
17:32Coming back to the question, my master.
17:34So, like I said, in your words, your Jan Nayak Rahul Gandhi had said,
17:39Jitni abadi, utna haqq.
17:41What happened to the 19% haqq of the Muslim population of Bihar?
17:46Absolutely, Preeti.
17:47Look at the number of MPs today.
17:49And how many Muslim MPs from Bihar go to the parliament today?
17:53Which party do they belong to?
17:55You tell us.
17:55Don't you know that they belong to the Congress Party?
17:58Don't you know how the Congress Party, I mean, this very BJP, those very people who are questioning the Congress today,
18:04have been for the longest time accusing the Congress Party of Muslim appeasement.
18:08Now, today they are raising contrary questions.
18:11Basically, they do not know.
18:13All right, let me take that question to, let me take that question to Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam.
18:19Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam, the counter to it, which the Mahagadbandhan is raising,
18:24is that one lone Bihar representative of the BJP, Shah Nawaz Hussain,
18:30that only show where is it.
18:32You only tell one, leave alone 19%.
18:35Well, let me tell you very candidly, since you have posed this question to me,
18:43I am a Muslim from that part of the world.
18:46So I understand exactly what goes in people's mind.
18:50And I think we have tested many times by giving tickets to Muslims.
18:54And it is Muslim community who have not voted for Muslim candidate given by a Muslim, by BJP.
19:03But our NDA partners have given, Chirag Paswan has given candidate from Muslim community.
19:11So is JNU.
19:12But let me tell you that unless Muslim community also has to understand one thing,
19:16that they need to integrate with the rest of the community, with other voters.
19:21If their only purpose to defeat BJP, it will be counterproductive for the community itself.
19:28Communities should be thinking about their own benefits, not safeguarding the interests of XYZ party.
19:37When you are a voter, you should vote.
19:39Vote for your upliftment, not to make the chief minister, Ratshvi Yadu or Hilesh Yadu or for that matter XYZ.
19:46But in that sense, Dr. Saeed Safar Islam, what you are saying is something very great.
19:50One would have thought that BJP's tagline was sabka sad, sabka vikas despite of anybody voting for them or not.
19:57Number two, are you admitting that the Muslims of this country don't vote for the BJP?
20:01So, Priti, no, let me tell you a thing.
20:06When you speak of a governance model, yes, have you differentiated between one community to another?
20:13I was MP.
20:14I was from, there was a constituency in Uttar Pradesh, Muradabad.
20:19I have distributed from my own hand the number of beneficiaries, Pradhan Mantri, Avas Yojna.
20:26Sixty-five percent from one community, that is Muslim community, where they had left, they were left by Congress party.
20:32But Dr. Saeed Safar Islam, it's not just governance, it's about participation and you yourself said the community doesn't vote for you, so why bother giving them representation?
20:40You said it yourself, sir.
20:42No, so, no, so I'm repeating it again.
20:46I said for, community also has to understand, you cannot operate in isolation.
20:51Then when the political party is giving you a ticket, you are just trying to defeat them.
20:56When the political party is trying to bring you in the mainstream, you are trying to defeat them.
21:01So, your objective also has to be in line with the objective of what you have for other political parties.
21:07And that is why I am saying that Muslim community, where I am also part of that community, must understand that being a captive to one political party as a voter will always help, will never help you uplift your community but compromise with your own interests.
21:25Nobody will safeguard, why will they safeguard?
21:27All right, so, Dr. Saeed Safar Islam, you know, what is at least refreshing?
21:30What is at least refreshing is that you've come out and said it for what it is, that the community doesn't get representation from the BJP because the community doesn't vote for the BJP.
21:40Despite of fielding Muslim candidates, you don't win a seat.
21:43So, you know, that is refreshing because you're being very honest about that.
21:46But I want to bring in, and I'll go to the J.D.U. spokesperson, but Priyanka Bharti wants to come in on this because the problem is completely reversed, Priyanka Bharti, when it comes down to the RJD.
21:55Today, other than the classic MY combination, you are desperate to find the third component who actually helps you bring that 4% incremental vote that makes you cross that proverbial line of a majority.
22:09No, I am surprised to see, Priyanka Bharti, you surprised.
22:13When you were surprised when Zafar Islam himself said that Muslims don't give votes to us, that's why we don't give representation to Muslims.
22:20Why are you surprised?
22:21PM Modi himself said, Kapano Se Pahchan Hooti Hai.
22:23Devesh Chandra Thakur, MP of J.D.U. said,
22:26Yadha, Muslim Kushoa, we won't vote in Islam, so we won't do the work in Islam.
22:31Today, Ajay Alok Hizur, the first person said,
22:33But Priyanka Bharti, the fact is, out of the seats you have given,
22:41One second, Priyanka Bharti, the out of the seats that you have actually given,
22:4453% of the seats have gone to Muslims in Yadav.
22:46This is your core vote bank.
22:48Be as honest as Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam on this show.
22:51You are desperate to get a third component.
22:54Now that might come, or you hope it comes from the EBC or the Dalits, but you are desperate for the third component.
22:59We already know that we are the parties of A to Z community, and it's not just MY.
23:04It was just MY.
23:06Can you explain it to me?
23:07Why did RGD become the largest party last election, with highest vote percentage?
23:12Was it just MY that made us largest party?
23:14And I would just like to add on, just four or five days back, did you hear what our minister, Giraj ji said?
23:23He said,
23:24He said that he doesn't vote in Muslims, so that's why he doesn't vote in Muslims, so that was an abuse for our BJP spokesperson as well.
23:31So I condemned him from here.
23:33And these ministers who are sitting in the cabinet are of no use for the Biharis, because when he was asked,
23:38Sir, why doesn't he come to our industry or PM Mitra Par, he brazenly, he said,
23:45This is a negative question, he doesn't ask a negative question.
23:48So when you ask questions...
23:48Priti, can I just...
23:49Okay, now Dr. Saeed Zafar, allow me to bring in Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam, and I'll go to the J.D.U. and the Congress spokesperson.
23:55Yes, Dr. Islam, make your point.
23:57See, the problem, see, I am speaking my heart out today, since you posed this question to me.
24:05So, I have a huge problem when television like yours, or any for that matter,
24:11they show only a particular type of Muslim, who are wearing a skull, cap, and then having beard, and they are from madrasa.
24:21A Muslim, the young generation of a Muslim community going to good schools, they are well educated,
24:26they want to be the part of the mainstream, must project them.
24:29But Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam, have you had this, Sir, then I come up with a counter.
24:34Have you had this conversation, but Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam, have you had this conversation with your social media team of the BJP?
24:41Have you had this conversation with the Jharkhand, Jharkhand management of your elections?
24:48Because the kind of, and Sir, anyone in this country should be ashamed of some of the kind...
24:53With every platform, and from every...
24:56Make your point, make your point.
24:59See, I am extremely vocal about it.
25:01I do not hide my emotions and sentiments, and I am very vocal about it, that the community is misrepresented,
25:09and particularly because of the Congress Party and the likes of RGD,
25:13they mislead, mislead the entire community, they make them as captive voters, and that will never help them.
25:21Never.
25:22I am not saying that the vote for BJP...
25:23One second. No, Dr. Saeed Zafar, then it smacks of hypocrisy, Sir.
25:26Then it smacks of hypocrisy, because I will tell you,
25:29some of the content that comes from your own social media,
25:33which is the BJP social media,
25:35from your own Twitter handles,
25:37from your own poll management,
25:39where you give out your press releases,
25:43where you give out your ads,
25:44where you yourself stereotype Muslims.
25:46Yeah.
25:47The Jharkhand political campaign of the BJP was designed to be anti-Muslim.
25:54No.
25:54Sir, you know it. Why hide then?
25:57Not at all. Let me give you one very...
26:00No, no, I am not hiding. I said I am very vocal.
26:04I do not hide anything.
26:05I am saying very clearly that the community also has to understand
26:09that whether their votes are productively helping the community,
26:13I will be with them.
26:15But their votes are not helping them.
26:16They are actually bringing them into...
26:21I mean, it is not doing any...
26:24Sir, you are saying because of the Congress,
26:26the community has painted into a picture,
26:28therefore the BJP is exploiting it.
26:29That do not become a captive.
26:31Vote anybody, any party.
26:33Okay, I want to quickly bring it. Allow me.
26:35I want to bring in the two other spokespersons.
26:37Nobody should take...
26:38Nobody should say M-Y combination,
26:40X-Y combination, M-X combination.
26:43No.
26:43And, sir, nobody should say
26:44we don't need the Muslim vote combination.
26:47A combination that doesn't have the Muslims,
26:49we are okay with it.
26:50Absolutely, no.
26:50A lot of your party people also say that.
26:52I agree with what you're saying.
26:53No, no, nobody should say.
26:53And I'm telling you, nobody should say.
26:55Okay.
26:55You can go on...
26:56Okay, sir.
26:56Refreshing to know.
26:57You can go on my Twitter handle
26:58and I have said very clearly,
26:59nobody in this one should say.
27:02Okay, sir.
27:02Fair point.
27:03I want to bring in Mahima Singh.
27:04Mahima Singh,
27:04you still haven't answered my question, right?
27:06You say we've given representation.
27:08You have given representation.
27:10You have opened...
27:10Are you telling me when yesterday
27:12you had Mr. Gheilod say
27:14that there could be a third
27:15representative chief minister?
27:17Will that chief minister come from the Muslim community
27:19if you actually win this election?
27:23Preeti, I assume you haven't read
27:25Shri Pavan Khera's tweet yesterday.
27:27He has spoken very vocally about it.
27:30But before going at that,
27:31I'm quite amused, appalled
27:33at the BJP spokesperson's narrative here.
27:36He says he's speaking very honestly.
27:38He's being vocal about it.
27:39Let him tell us how many tickets
27:41were given to Muslims across UP.
27:43in UP elections.
27:45They have been running the government
27:46for the last two terms now.
27:48How many tickets were given
27:49to Muslim candidates
27:50in the last Lok Sabha elections?
27:52And before that,
27:53this is Modi 3.0 so called.
27:56So, you know,
27:57let them tell us that
27:58how many MPs
28:00has the BJP sent
28:01from the Muslim community
28:03to the Lok Sabha.
28:05Let them tell us that.
28:06You see,
28:07it is very rich...
28:08One second.
28:08One second, Mahima Singh.
28:10The BJP said very clearly
28:12over and over again
28:13various leaders
28:14that they don't need
28:15that segment's vote.
28:16But you want that segment's vote.
28:18It's 19% of the Bihar population.
28:20Why not give them representation?
28:23And hence, Preeti,
28:24let me just tell you.
28:25Let me just tell you.
28:27I would suggest,
28:27Mahima Singh Ji,
28:29tell your party that
28:31you also say that
28:32we don't need Muslim vote.
28:34Don't become our party.
28:34Okay, fair point.
28:35I need to go into a break
28:36but Mahima Singh,
28:37make your point.
28:37Can I just get
28:38Mahima Singh,
28:38make your point.
28:40Mahima Singh,
28:41I'll come back
28:42to this conversation.
28:43Mahima Singh.
28:44Why is the BJP spokesperson
28:45getting desperate
28:46and trying to interject
28:48out of turn?
28:49Ma'am, make your point.
28:50All I'm saying,
28:51you know,
28:51they can say that
28:53they do not need them
28:55as much as they want to.
28:56But then why is
28:57questions on those
28:59whom they themselves
29:00have been accusing
29:01of Muslim appeasement?
29:03You see,
29:04when the Congress party
29:05is concerned,
29:05you look at the
29:06Bihar ticket distribution
29:07also, Preeti.
29:08We have distributed
29:09the tickets
29:10very, very equitably.
29:12And whether it is
29:13the OBCs,
29:14whether it is the
29:15EBCs, SCs, STs,
29:16BJP has not given
29:17a single ticket to ST.
29:19Not even a single ticket
29:21to a scheduled tribe.
29:22Okay.
29:23With...
29:23Okay, Dr. Sanjay Kumar.
29:25I'm going to ask them
29:25that question.
29:26Dr. Sanjay Kumar
29:27of the JDU,
29:27I want to bring you in.
29:28Do you agree
29:29with your allies?
29:30Because,
29:31Dr. Sanjay Kumar,
29:32it's not that the Muslims
29:33don't vote for the JDU.
29:35Traditionally,
29:36the Muslims,
29:37especially the Pasamanda Muslims,
29:38have had a fair amount
29:40of trust in Nitish Kumar.
29:42Do you agree
29:42with the analysis
29:43of Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam?
29:45Because they are
29:46your ally this time.
29:47And that kind of analysis
29:50clearly seems to project
29:51as Muslims
29:53as only going towards
29:54the Mahagat Bandhan,
29:55that they don't want
29:56to vote the NDA.
29:57You know,
29:58as an alliance partner,
30:00we have different...
30:02You know,
30:02like,
30:02we agree,
30:04but at the same time,
30:05Kathni or Karni
30:06me jo
30:07park
30:08Bihar me
30:09Nitish ji ne chhoda hai.
30:10Like,
30:10what he has done
30:11for the Muslims
30:12in the state,
30:14you know,
30:14Lalu ji even did not do
30:16during his Raj.
30:18Because,
30:18you know,
30:19the kind of justice,
30:21the Bhagalpur riots,
30:24you know,
30:24the victims
30:26of the Bhagalpur riots,
30:27they got
30:28during the
30:29Nitish ji Raj.
30:30and the kind of
30:31welfare schemes
30:32or welfare programs
30:33that Nitish ji
30:34introduced in the state,
30:36it's remarkable.
30:37So,
30:37we very much
30:39as a party,
30:40as a leader,
30:41Nitish ji
30:41always supported
30:44the growth
30:45and the welfare
30:45of Muslims
30:46in the state.
30:47And that is
30:47our official stand.
30:49And we stand
30:49very firm on it.
30:51So,
30:51you're saying
30:51Muslims vote for you
30:52but Muslims don't
30:53vote for the BJP.
30:54Is what at least
30:55Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam
30:56say.
31:00You know,
31:00Muslims do vote for us.
31:03You know,
31:03and what he said,
31:05you know,
31:05that's his view
31:06and that is also
31:07right to some extent.
31:09But overall,
31:11you know,
31:11as a state,
31:12as a NDA government
31:13in the state
31:14for last 20 years,
31:16you know,
31:16you never saw,
31:17never witnessed
31:18any riot in the state.
31:20What happened
31:21during the
31:22Mahagadbandan Raj,
31:24you know,
31:24there were riots,
31:25there were Narsangars,
31:26but during our time,
31:27you did not see
31:28any riot happening.
31:29Okay,
31:30I'm going to give,
31:30I'm going to give,
31:32all right,
31:32allow me to give
31:33two minutes to all
31:33four of you
31:34to conclude.
31:35Let's start with
31:35Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam
31:36and we'll come
31:37all the way down.
31:38Dr. Saeed Zafar Islam,
31:39last two minutes
31:40of conclusion
31:41on this debate, sir.
31:42Make your point.
31:46Well,
31:46there are two things,
31:47lots of issues
31:48we are discussing
31:49but since you post
31:50mostly questions
31:51related to Muslim community
31:52and I want to be very vocal
31:54there were lots of questions
31:55that had to be answered
31:56but that's for another day.
31:57We'll get the time away.
31:58Go ahead, sir.
31:58So,
31:59so,
31:59so,
31:59so,
31:59I,
32:01yeah,
32:02so I asked about
32:03that they should say
32:04about the expenditure side
32:06they have said
32:07but the revenue side
32:08they must explain
32:08from where the revenue
32:09will come
32:10nobody has responded.
32:11About the Muslim community
32:12I have again maintained
32:13that we are extremely
32:15passionate
32:16when we,
32:17when we announce
32:18the welfare scheme
32:19and we ensure
32:20that every citizen
32:21whether it's country
32:22or Bihar
32:23in particular,
32:24they should be given
32:25without any
32:26particular
32:30identification
32:32but
32:33in terms of ticket
32:35when it comes to ticket
32:36yes,
32:36we,
32:36we are priorities
32:38when every political party
32:39wants to win.
32:40So,
32:40winability is the criteria
32:41and we definitely
32:42give votes to
32:43tickets to
32:45candidate who can win.
32:46if Muslim community
32:48also feel that
32:49their representation
32:50should be there
32:50then they should
32:51participate in giving votes.
32:52I mean,
32:53we are happy to give ticket.
32:54We will give ticket.
32:55Are they willing to be,
32:56be a voter
32:59or they want to
33:00remain a captive voter
33:02where their interest
33:03is totally compromised
33:04how they have been
33:05misled,
33:06mistreated
33:07by Congress Party
33:08and RJDs
33:08that they are not
33:09overly concerned.
33:10They want to elect
33:11RajDi Tejasvi Adho
33:13as chief leader
33:14but not Tariq Anwar.
33:15Why not Tariq Anwar?
33:16He is the senior
33:17most leader
33:18from the state
33:18and from the Muslim community.
33:20What is wrong with him?
33:22Why they have not been
33:23named Tariq Anwar?
33:24Because they cannot.
33:26They are playing politics.
33:27They do not want
33:28to give representation
33:28to Muslims.
33:29They just want to give
33:30and win vote.
33:32They want to take their vote.
33:33They want to just
33:33mislead,
33:34mistreat them
33:35and we do not want to do that.
33:36We want to,
33:37we want them to participate.
33:38We always safeguarded
33:39interest by being fair
33:41and fairness we have shown
33:43when we,
33:44when we on the welfare scheme
33:45in our governance model.
33:47Our governance model
33:48is extremely fair
33:49because we have ensured
33:50that every citizen
33:51is equal
33:52and they should,
33:53the governance
33:53demonstrate that
33:55every citizen
33:56should be beneficiary
33:57from the welfare scheme
33:58and it is
33:59irrespective of the
34:00caste, community
34:01and faith they have.
34:02But have they done it?
34:03No.
34:04They have made it,
34:04they have made it.
34:05All right,
34:05so your time is up.
34:0666% of the people
34:07who are from the Muslim
34:08government.
34:09Government governance
34:09is also judged
34:11by participation
34:11but that's a different debate.
34:13You know,
34:14this debate has taken
34:14a life of its own
34:15but two minutes,
34:17let's begin with
34:17Mahima Singh.
34:19Please go ahead
34:19and make your point.
34:20Final submissions.
34:21Preeti, I was,
34:24you know,
34:25listening to the BJP
34:26spokesperson
34:26and I sympathize
34:29with him
34:29for having put
34:30his alliance
34:31in jeopardy
34:32on your very show.
34:33You see,
34:33I can see
34:34both their faces.
34:35The JT
34:36and the BJP
34:36here
34:37and, you know,
34:38what the BJP
34:38spokesperson
34:39has said,
34:40I'm sure he's
34:40rethinking that
34:41but now
34:42the train
34:43has passed.
34:45Let me just,
34:46you know,
34:46cite here
34:47for everybody's
34:48benefit
34:49the percentage
34:51of ticket
34:51distribution
34:52by the BJP
34:53and the Congress
34:54specifically.
34:55You see,
34:55the BJP
34:56has given
34:5648% tickets
34:58to upper castes
34:59whereas we have
35:00given just 39%
35:01to upper castes
35:02and rest,
35:02of course.
35:03EBCs,
35:04you know,
35:05they have given
35:05less than around
35:0711%.
35:07We have given
35:08around 13%.
35:09The OBCs,
35:10they have given
35:11around 25%.
35:12We have given
35:1228%.
35:14SCs,
35:14we have given
35:1518%.
35:15They have given
35:1615%.
35:17We have given
35:18to STs 2%.
35:20Whereas they
35:21have given
35:22no tickets
35:23to the STs.
35:24Now I think
35:25this is for
35:25everybody to see.
35:27The rift
35:27between the
35:28partners of
35:29the NDA
35:29is out for
35:30everybody to
35:31see.
35:31It has just
35:32been displayed
35:32on your show
35:33but interestingly,
35:35intriguingly,
35:35nobody will ask
35:36questions of them.
35:37All the questions
35:38have been asked
35:39of the Mahagatbandhan.
35:40We have answered
35:41them.
35:41There has been
35:42no difference.
35:43We have come
35:43on one stage.
35:44When was it
35:45last that you
35:46see the NDA
35:47meet for once?
35:50When was it
35:50last that they
35:51had one single
35:53meeting where
35:54their issues
35:55were discussed?
35:56Because of
35:56course,
35:57this NDA
35:58government over
35:59the last 20
36:00years has
36:00jeopardized
36:01Bihar's interests.
36:02And whether it
36:03is the
36:03unemployment,
36:04whether it
36:04is the
36:05inflation,
36:05whether it
36:06is the
36:06industries,
36:07whether it
36:07is the
36:07mills that
36:08were shut
36:08down that
36:09Priyanka
36:09Bharti spoke
36:10earlier about,
36:11the BJP has
36:12a lot to
36:12answer but
36:13unfortunately they
36:14have no
36:15answers.
36:16Whether it
36:16is the
36:16state of
36:17health or
36:18law and
36:19order,
36:19whether it
36:20is the
36:20state of
36:20the
36:21information
36:21technology
36:22sector,
36:22the BJP
36:23has a lot
36:23to answer.
36:24I'm going to
36:25just give in
36:25the last two
36:25minutes to the
36:26RJD spokesperson.
36:27But you know
36:27the fact is
36:28Mahima Singh,
36:29it's to say
36:30that no questions
36:31will be asked,
36:31to be very
36:32frank,
36:32Dr. Saeed
36:32Zafir Islam
36:33and Dr.
36:35Sanjay Kumar
36:36have taken
36:36maximum amount
36:37of questions
36:37in this
36:38particular debate
36:39and they
36:39have answered
36:40it too
36:40very honestly
36:41at that.
36:42So let's
36:43not get into
36:43their not
36:44asked questions
36:44because sometimes
36:45the Mahagat
36:46bandhan loves
36:46playing the
36:47victim card
36:47especially when
36:48it comes down
36:49to television
36:49debates.
36:50But I'll
36:50give two
36:51minutes now.
36:52Ma'am it's
36:52a fact,
36:53it is a
36:53fact.
36:54In this
36:54show they've
36:54been asked
36:55all the
36:55questions so
36:56let's not
36:56say that
36:56they'll never
36:57be asked.
36:57Of course
36:57they were asked
36:58that's why
36:58this debate
36:58was carrying
36:59on.
37:00Ma'am,
37:02as a
37:09Bihari youth
37:10I always
37:10used to
37:10ponder
37:11why does
37:11Mr.
37:12Modi
37:12always
37:12reflect
37:13unfair
37:14treatment
37:14towards
37:14Biharis
37:15but you
37:17know
37:17today I
37:18got my
37:18answer
37:18through
37:19BJP
37:20spokesperson
37:20he
37:20directly
37:21said
37:21Muslims
37:22don't
37:22give
37:22vote
37:22to
37:23us
37:23that's
37:23why
37:23we
37:24don't
37:24give
37:24representation
37:24to
37:25Muslims
37:25similarly
37:26the
37:26youth
37:26have
37:26voted
37:27less
37:27for
37:27NDA
37:28if you
37:28analyse
37:292020
37:29elections
37:30and
37:30that's
37:31why I
37:31think
37:31that's
37:31the
37:31reason
37:32they're
37:32not
37:32talking
37:33about
37:33jobs
37:34or
37:34employment
37:34for
37:35the
37:35Biharis
37:35that
37:35could
37:36only
37:36be
37:36one
37:36reason
37:36and
37:37as
37:37a
37:37woman
37:38I
37:38want
37:38to
37:38point
37:39this
37:39out
37:40specifically
37:40how
37:41many tickets
37:41have been
37:42given
37:42to
37:42women
37:43by the
37:43NDA
37:44or the
37:44JDU
37:45or the
37:45BJP
37:45BJP
37:46gave only
37:4711 tickets
37:48to women
37:48and if
37:48I talk
37:48about
37:49RJD
37:4924
37:50tickets
37:50to
37:50women
37:51and
37:51that
37:52also
37:52cast
37:52why
37:53seeing
37:53every
37:53equation
37:54but
37:55today
37:55I
37:55would
37:55only
37:56talk
37:56about
37:562-3
37:57things
37:57which
37:57concerns
37:58us
37:58that
37:58is
37:58why
37:59didn't
38:00they
38:00got
38:01a lot
38:01of
38:01time
38:01like
38:0211
38:02years
38:02Modi
38:0220
38:03years
38:03BJP
38:04and
38:04JDU
38:05together
38:05so
38:06how
38:06many
38:06agro-based
38:06industries
38:07were set
38:07up in
38:08Bihar
38:08or
38:08procuring
38:09jobs
38:09if
38:09only
38:10one
38:10PM
38:10Mitra
38:11Park
38:11would
38:11have
38:12come
38:12to
38:12Bihar
38:12then
38:14we
38:14could
38:15have
38:15got
38:1530,000
38:16jobs
38:1640,000
38:16jobs
38:17from
38:17that
38:17one
38:18PM
38:18Mitra
38:19Park
38:19that's
38:20why
38:20whenever
38:20it's
38:21about
38:21Bihar
38:22we
38:27taking
38:27place
38:28the
38:28vehicle
38:28of
38:28EDG
38:29was
38:29ahead
38:29and
38:30behind
38:30they
38:30were
38:30shooting
38:31everywhere
38:31so
38:32this
38:32is
38:32the
38:32condition
38:33of
38:33lawlessness
38:33in
38:34Bihar
38:34and
38:34not
38:35only
38:35this
38:35I
38:36mean
38:36whenever
38:36they
38:37ask
38:37about
38:37Muslim
38:38representation
38:38I
38:39don't
38:39know
38:39why
38:39do
38:39I
38:40think
38:40that
38:40it's
38:40so
38:41humorous
38:41because
38:42you
38:42see
38:43there
38:43is
38:43no
38:43people
38:43answer
38:44of
38:45BJP
38:45there
38:45is
38:46no
38:46even
38:46not
38:47a
38:47single
38:47candidate
38:48featured
38:49by
38:49them
38:49for
38:49Bihar
38:50and
38:50today
38:50I
38:51want
38:51to
38:51make
38:52this
38:53clarification
38:53in
38:54front
38:54of
38:54whole
38:55nation
38:55that
38:56just
38:57in
38:572-3
38:57days
38:57everyone
38:58will
38:59get
38:59a
38:59good
38:59news
38:59because
39:00it's
39:00not
39:00only
39:00one
39:00deputy
39:01CM
39:01coming
39:01from
39:02the
39:02Mahagat
39:02Bandhan
39:02there
39:03will
39:03be
39:03more
39:04and
39:04we
39:04respect
39:05everyone
39:06we
39:06will
39:06give
39:07equal
39:07representation
39:07two
39:08minutes
39:08two
39:09minutes
39:09to
39:10the
39:10JDU
39:11spokesperson
39:11Dr.
39:12Sanjay
39:12Kumar
39:13thank
39:13you
39:13so
39:14you
39:14know
39:14one
39:15thing
39:15that
39:16you
39:16did
39:17not
39:17ask
39:20that
39:21where
39:21is
39:21Mr.
39:21Rahul
39:21Gandhi
39:22missing
39:22he
39:23did
39:23not
39:24tweet
39:24about
39:24Bihar
39:25after
39:2525th
39:26September
39:26and
39:28you
39:28know
39:28he
39:28has
39:29been
39:29traveling
39:29all
39:29around
39:30he
39:30came
39:30to
39:30Bihar
39:31he
39:31did
39:32show
39:32some
39:32solidarity
39:32with
39:33Tajistya
39:33Jaswiji
39:34and
39:35roamed
39:35around
39:36vote
39:36chori
39:36vote
39:37chori
39:37nara
39:38he
39:38gave
39:38and
39:39now
39:39his
39:39own
39:40men
39:40sitting
39:41in
39:41Bihar
39:41congress
39:42you
39:43know
39:43like
39:44bagis
39:45now
39:45they
39:46are
39:46saying
39:47ki
39:47seat
39:49chori
39:49seat
39:50chori
39:51seat
39:51chori
39:52gaddi
39:53chhor
39:53seat
39:54chhor
39:54gaddi
39:54chhor
39:55so
39:55they
39:56are
39:56blaming
39:56that
39:57congress
39:57representatives
39:59have
39:59sold
40:00seats
40:00in
40:01Bihar
40:01up
40:02they
40:03have
40:04sold
40:04seats
40:04to
40:04whom
40:05that
40:05we
40:06don't
40:06know
40:06you
40:07know
40:07but
40:07Rahul
40:08Gandhi
40:08is
40:08invisible
40:09throughout
40:10this
40:11last
40:11one
40:11month
40:11from
40:12Bihar
40:13politics
40:13and
40:13they
40:14are
40:14saying
40:14that
40:15you
40:15know
40:16everything
40:16is
40:17well
40:17within
40:17the
40:18Mahagadvandan
40:18when
40:19Modiji
40:20said
40:21Latbandan
40:22you
40:22know
40:22I
40:23think
40:23he
40:23was
40:23referring
40:24to
40:24such
40:25incidents
40:25that
40:26is
40:26happening
40:26you
40:27know
40:27NDA
40:27has
40:27already
40:28started
40:28kicked
40:29off
40:29the
40:30campaign
40:30a few
40:31weeks
40:31ago
40:32joint
40:33campaigns
40:33did
40:34you
40:34see
40:34congressmen
40:35or congress
40:36leaders
40:36standing
40:37today
40:38in
40:38Saharsa
40:38rally
40:39of
40:39Tejasviji
40:40and
40:40Madan
40:41Sahni
40:41sorry
40:42the
40:43deputy
40:44CM
40:44face
40:45there
40:45were
40:46no
40:46congress
40:47standing
40:48in
40:48that
40:48rally
40:49there
40:50is
40:51no
40:51unity
40:52and
40:52we
40:53are
40:53hoping
40:53to
40:53see
40:54some
40:54more
40:54deputy
40:55CM
40:55face
40:55because
40:56there
40:56must
40:56be
40:57some
40:57hard
40:58negotiations
40:58going
40:59on
40:59within
41:00Mahakad
41:00Bandhan
41:01so
41:01let's
41:02wait
41:02and
41:02see
41:02we
41:03are
41:03all
41:04settled
41:04for
41:04ourselves
41:05our
41:05alliance
41:07is
41:07all
41:08set
41:08and
41:08we
41:08are
41:09on
41:09the
41:10ground
41:10and
41:11our
41:11campaign
41:11is
41:12in
41:12full
41:12swing
41:13I
41:13appreciate
41:14all
41:14four
41:15of
41:15you
41:15for
41:15joining
41:15us
41:15thank
41:16you
41:16I'm
41:16going
41:16to
41:16bring
41:16in
41:16our
41:17two
41:17political
41:17experts
41:17Amitabh
41:18Tiwari
41:18founder
41:19Vote
41:19Vibe
41:19as
41:19well
41:20as
41:20Arati
41:20Jarrod
41:20senior
41:21journalist
41:21into
41:22this
41:22conversation
41:23Amitabh Tiwari
41:24the
41:24prime
41:25minister
41:25today
41:25of course
41:26kick-starting
41:27his
41:27campaign
41:28officially
41:29in
41:29Bihar
41:30at the
41:30back
41:30of
41:30what
41:30happened
41:31yesterday
41:31which
41:31we
41:31duly
41:32discussed
41:32and
41:32then
41:33of
41:33course
41:33the
41:34AIMIM
41:35coming
41:35into
41:35the
41:35fray
41:36accusing
41:36Rahul
41:36Gandhi
41:37of
41:37not
41:37delivering
41:38on
41:38the
41:39eternal
41:39proverbial
41:40promise
41:41of
41:41Jitni
41:41Abadi
41:42Utanahak
41:42as
41:48the
41:49chief
41:49minister
41:49face
41:50clearly
41:51now
41:51the
41:52attack
41:52of
41:53the
41:53prime
41:53minister
41:54Modi
41:54will
41:54be
41:54on
41:54three
41:55factors
41:55one
41:56is
41:56corruption
41:56the
41:57other
41:57is
41:57jungle
41:57raj
41:58and
41:58the
41:58third
41:58is
41:59nepotism
41:59or
41:59dynastic
42:00politics
42:00incidentally
42:02somehow
42:03all these
42:04three
42:04allegations
42:05of
42:06the
42:06prime
42:06minister
42:06or
42:07BJP
42:07allegations
42:08against
42:08RJD
42:09or
42:09Mahal
42:09Bandhan
42:10somehow
42:11they
42:11will
42:11also
42:12manage
42:12to
42:12fit
42:13it
42:13on
42:13Rahul
42:13Gandhi
42:13so
42:14all
42:14these
42:14three
42:15points
42:15prime
42:16minister
42:17Modi
42:17will
42:18use
42:18to
42:18target
42:19both
42:19Pejasui
42:20and
42:20Rahul
42:21Khan
42:21now
42:22on
42:22the
42:22question
42:22of
42:23the
42:24deputy
42:24CM
42:24and
42:24representation
42:25I
42:26think
42:26the
42:27AIMIM
42:28has
42:28been
42:29running
42:29its
42:30politics
42:30largely
42:31on
42:31representation
42:32of
42:32Muslims
42:32Muslims
42:33representation
42:35in Bihar
42:35assembly
42:36is just
42:368%
42:37vis-a-vis
42:3818%
42:39for the
42:39nation
42:39now
42:40they have
42:40also
42:41won
42:42or were
42:42leading
42:43in two
42:43assembly
42:44segments
42:44even
42:45in the
42:45Lok Sabha
42:46elections
42:46in Bihar
42:47they were
42:48partly
42:48responsible
42:49for
42:49Mahagad
42:50Mandal's
42:50loss
42:50because
42:51they managed
42:52to win
42:52five seats
42:53in
42:53Simanchal
42:54in
42:542020
42:55whereas
42:56the
42:56difference
42:56between
42:57the two
42:57alliance
42:58groups
42:58was only
42:5815
42:59seats
42:59so
43:00they
43:00will
43:00use
43:00this
43:00opportunity
43:01because
43:01their
43:02vote
43:03bank
43:03or
43:03poor
43:04vote
43:04bank
43:04is also
43:05the
43:05Muslim
43:05community
43:06itself
43:06which
43:07is
43:07in
43:08conflict
43:08with
43:09the
43:09RJD
43:09so
43:10they
43:10will
43:10use
43:10this
43:10opportunity
43:11to
43:12milk
43:12this
43:12issue
43:13and
43:13try
43:13to
43:14gain
43:14traction
43:14amongst
43:15the
43:15Muslim
43:15community
43:16who
43:17and
43:17a
43:17section
43:17of
43:18it
43:18is
43:18also
43:19talking
43:19about
43:19representation
43:20because
43:21there
43:21has
43:21been
43:21a
43:22talk
43:22not
43:22only
43:23in
43:23Bihar
43:23but
43:23also
43:24in
43:24UP
43:24that
43:25so-called
43:25secular
43:26parties
43:26or
43:26secular
43:27parties
43:27take
43:28the
43:28vote
43:29of
43:29the
43:29Muslim
43:30community
43:30but
43:31perhaps
43:31they
43:31have
43:32not
43:32given
43:32adequate
43:33representation
43:33to
43:34the
43:34Muslims
43:35I
43:35mean
43:35we
43:35would
43:36struggle
43:36we
43:37as
43:37journalists
43:38or
43:38strategists
43:40or
43:40analysts
43:41would
43:42struggle
43:42to name
43:43five
43:43Muslim
43:44leaders
43:44of
43:45RZD
43:46today
43:46from
43:46Bihar
43:47and
43:47we
43:47would
43:48also
43:48struggle
43:48to
43:49name
43:49five
43:49top
43:50Muslim
43:50leaders
43:50of
43:50the
43:51Congress
43:51party
43:51nationally
43:52so
43:53this
43:53is
43:53the
43:54politics
43:54which
43:54OVC
43:55lays on
43:56and
43:56this
43:56has
43:57given
43:57him
43:58some
43:59you
43:59can
43:59say
44:00ammunition
44:00to
44:01make a
44:02comeback
44:03otherwise
44:03we were
44:04thinking
44:04that
44:04the
44:05Muslim
44:05vote
44:05will
44:05be
44:05largely
44:06in
44:07favor
44:07No
44:08the word
44:08is
44:08also
44:08it's
44:09not
44:09the word
44:09it
44:09was
44:09very
44:10clear
44:10that
44:10and
44:11which
44:11is
44:11strange
44:14Mr
44:15OVC
44:15who
44:16wanted
44:17to
44:17be
44:17a
44:17part
44:17of
44:17the
44:18Mahagat
44:18Bandhan
44:18they
44:18had
44:18released
44:19a
44:19formal
44:19letter
44:19asking
44:20to
44:20be
44:20very
44:21much
44:21part
44:21of
44:21the
44:21Mahagat
44:22Bandhan
44:22and
44:22Amitabh Diwari
44:23is
44:23quite
44:23right
44:24there
44:24because
44:24the
44:24politics
44:25doesn't
44:25quite
44:26agree
44:26right
44:26now
44:27to
44:27have
44:27an
44:28Asad
44:28Uddin
44:28OVC
44:29as
44:29a
44:29part
44:29of
44:29Mahagat
44:30Bandhan
44:30which
44:30would
44:30have
44:31only
44:31polarised
44:32this
44:32election
44:32than
44:44not
44:45allowed
44:45to
44:45join
44:46the
44:46MGB
44:46which
44:47he
44:47was
44:47very
44:47keen
44:47to
44:48do
44:48you
44:49know
44:49as far
44:50as
44:50representation
44:50is
44:51concerned
44:51look
44:52I
44:52think
44:53every
44:53party
44:54every
44:54alliance
44:55looks
44:56at
44:56winnability
44:57when they
44:57choose
44:58their
44:58candidates
44:58they
44:59look
44:59at
44:59the
45:00cast
45:00composition
45:00of
45:01every
45:01constituency
45:01very
45:02carefully
45:02it's
45:03examined
45:03down
45:04to
45:04the
45:04last
45:05person
45:05and
45:06they
45:06choose
45:06their
45:07candidates
45:07depending
45:08on
45:08who
45:09they
45:09think
45:10can
45:10win
45:10the
45:11cast
45:11combination
45:12that
45:12can
45:12make
45:13that
45:13candidate
45:14particular
45:15constituency
45:16so
45:16unfortunately
45:17this
45:18promise
45:18of
45:19representation
45:21doesn't
45:23quite
45:23play
45:23out
45:24because
45:24when
45:25winnability
45:25becomes
45:26the main
45:26criterion
45:27you
45:27sacrifice
45:28a lot
45:29and
45:29that
45:30is
45:30what
45:30is
45:30happening
45:30on
45:31both
45:31sides
45:31whether
45:32it
45:32is
45:32NDA
45:32or
45:33MGB
45:34both
45:34sides
45:35have
45:35had
45:35to
45:35sacrifice
45:36a
45:36lot
45:37of
45:37their
45:37slogans
45:39and
45:39you
45:40know
45:40the
45:40kind
45:42of
45:42ideology
45:42that
45:43they
45:43profess
45:43because
45:44they're
45:44looking
45:45at
45:45winnability
45:46so
45:47you
45:47know
45:48that's
45:48politics
45:48for
45:49you
45:49today
45:49and
45:50you
45:51know
45:51let's
45:52see
45:52what
45:52happens
45:53but
45:54I
45:54do
45:54feel
45:55that
45:55you
45:56know
45:56see
45:57the
45:57prime
45:58minister
45:58today
45:59did
45:59go a
46:00step
46:00further
46:00than
46:01Amit
46:02Shah
46:02because
46:04he
46:05did
46:05not
46:05say
46:05what
46:05Amit
46:06Shah
46:06said
46:06which
46:06is
46:07that
46:07the
46:07chief
46:08ministerial
46:09the
46:10chief
46:10minister
46:10will
46:11be
46:11decided
46:11after
46:12the
46:12elections
46:13he
46:13just
46:14talked
46:14about
46:14Nitish
46:15Kumar's
46:15leadership
46:16that's
46:17an important
46:17point
46:18there was
46:20room for
46:20him to
46:21make it
46:21clear
46:21and he
46:21did not
46:22make it
46:22clear
46:22he
46:23could have
46:24made it
46:24clear
46:24he
46:25practically
46:25said the
46:26same
46:26thing
46:26this
46:26election
46:26is going
46:27to be
46:27fought
46:27under
46:28the
46:28leadership
46:28of
46:28Nitish
46:29Kumar
46:29he
46:29could
46:29have
46:29said
46:29Nitish
46:30Kumar
46:30is
46:30our
46:30CM
46:31face
46:31that
46:31was
46:32the
46:32point
46:32I
46:32wanted
46:32to
46:33make
46:33that
46:33he
46:34actually
46:34did
46:35not
46:35take
46:36that
46:36last
46:37step
46:37you know
46:38the
46:38final
46:38step
46:39of
46:39announcing
46:39Nitish
46:40Kumar
46:40as
46:41the
46:41chief
46:41ministerial
46:41face
46:42now
46:42whether
46:43this
46:43is
46:43going
46:43to
46:44have
46:44an
46:44impact
46:44on
46:45the
46:45voting
46:45patterns
46:46and
46:46on
46:46voters
46:47I
46:47really
46:48don't
46:48know
46:48we'll
46:49have
46:49to
46:49wait
46:49and
46:49see
46:50as
46:50the
46:50campaign
46:51proceeds
46:51how much
46:52of an
46:52issue
46:52this
46:53actually
46:53becomes
46:54will
46:55it
46:55have
46:55an
46:55impact
46:55and
46:55I
46:56want
46:56to
46:56bring
46:56in
46:56Amitabh
46:57Tiwari
46:57on
46:57this
46:58Amitabh
46:58Tiwari
46:58there was
46:59opportunity
46:59that the
46:59prime minister
47:00had
47:00so clearly
47:01this has
47:02been
47:02as expected
47:04where the
47:04BJP comes
47:05from
47:05a very
47:05thought
47:06over
47:06process
47:07of
47:07communication
47:08so prime
47:09minister
47:09practically
47:10sticking
47:11to what
47:11the
47:11home
47:11minister
47:12had
47:12stated
47:12earlier
47:13well
47:15essentially
47:16see
47:16when
47:1615%
47:17people
47:18as per
47:19our
47:19vote
47:19survey
47:20are likely
47:20to vote
47:21on the
47:21chief
47:21ministerial
47:22face
47:22so
47:23if
47:24the
47:25Mahagadbandan
47:25or
47:26Tejasvi
47:26Yadav
47:27and the
47:27congress
47:27party
47:28start
47:28sharpening
47:29their
47:29attack
47:29on who
47:30is the
47:31CM
47:31face
47:31of
47:32the
47:33NDA
47:33then I
47:34think
47:34at some
47:34point
47:34of
47:35time
47:35they
47:35will
47:35have
47:35to
47:35take
47:36this
47:36point
47:36in the
47:38coming
47:38days
47:38or
47:39now
47:39that's
47:39one
47:40point
47:40second
47:41is
47:41see
47:41the
47:41attack
47:42is
47:42not
47:42only
47:43as
47:43to
47:43who
47:43is
47:44the
47:44CM
47:44face
47:44because
47:45that
47:45points
47:45out
47:46at
47:46a
47:46leadership
47:47vacuum
47:47in
47:48the
47:48BJP
47:49JD
47:49combined
47:50so
47:51if
47:51Nitish
47:52is not
47:52going to
47:53be the
47:53CM
47:53let's
47:53say
47:54for
47:54example
47:54and if
47:55the
47:55NDA
47:56wins
47:56then
47:56he is
47:57going to
47:57be the
47:58chief
47:58minister
47:58that
47:58face
47:59is
47:59not
47:59clear
47:59now
48:00you have
48:00two
48:00clear
48:01faces
48:01sort of
48:02one
48:02you have
48:02Prashant
48:03Kishor
48:03who
48:03may
48:04say
48:04that
48:04I
48:05would
48:05not
48:05become
48:06CM
48:06but
48:06if
48:06his
48:06party
48:07lets
48:07it
48:07wins
48:08then
48:08he is
48:09likely
48:09to
48:09become
48:10the
48:10CM
48:10if
48:10at
48:11all
48:11they win
48:12and
48:12you
48:12have
48:12a
48:12tejas
48:13fiyah
48:13of
48:14the
48:14Mahagad
48:15bandhan
48:15and
48:16this
48:16is
48:16going
48:16to
48:17cause
48:17trouble
48:18because
48:19Bihar
48:19is
48:20not
48:20a
48:20state
48:21like
48:21Rajasthan
48:22or
48:23Madhya
48:23Pradesh
48:24where
48:24you
48:25can
48:25personality
48:26is
48:26matter
48:27you're
48:27right
48:27you
48:28can
48:28appoint
48:29lightly
48:30light
48:31weight
48:31candidates
48:32as
48:32chief
48:32ministerial
48:34faces
48:34and
48:35get
48:35away
48:35with
48:35it
48:35right
48:36so
48:36you're
48:36saying
48:37that's
48:37a
48:37chink
48:37in
48:37the
48:37armor
48:38there
48:38people
48:39want
48:39to
48:39do
48:40you
48:41agree
48:41with
48:41that
48:42well
48:43it
48:43is
48:43a
48:43chink
48:43in
48:44the
48:44armor
48:44but
48:44I
48:44want
48:44to
48:44make
48:45one
48:45more
48:45point
48:45you
48:46know
48:46I
48:46think
48:47this
48:48time
48:48the
48:49youth
48:49vote
48:49is
48:50going
48:50to
48:50matter
48:50a
48:51lot
48:51and
48:52you
48:53know
48:53the
48:54Prime
48:54minister
48:54harking
48:55back
48:55to
48:55the
48:55jungle
48:56Raj
48:56days
48:57of
48:57the
48:57RJD
48:58it's
48:59not
48:59something
48:59that
49:00the
49:00youth
49:00of
49:01Bihar
49:01identify
49:01with
49:02because
49:02they
49:02were
49:02born
49:03way
49:03after
49:03Lalu
49:04Yadav
49:04lost
49:05power
49:05and
49:06what
49:06they
49:06have
49:06really
49:07seen
49:07is
49:08basically
49:08NDA
49:10rule
49:10in
49:10Bihar
49:11you know
49:11so
49:12the
49:12point
49:13is
49:13that
49:14will
49:15the
49:16RJD
49:17be able
49:18to reach
49:18out
49:18to the
49:19youth
49:19in a
49:19better
49:20way
49:20than
49:20the
49:20NDA
49:21the fact
49:22that they
49:22have
49:22talked
49:22about
49:24I mean
49:24it's
49:25a crazy
49:25promise
49:26to promise
49:26one
49:27government
49:27job
49:27per
49:28person
49:28but
49:29it
49:29still
49:29resonates
49:30with
49:30people
49:31in
49:31a
49:32state
49:32where
49:32unemployment
49:33is
49:33a
49:34major
49:34issue
49:34today
49:35you're
49:36right
49:36there
49:37because
49:37that also
49:38reflected
49:39I would
49:39reckon
49:39in the
49:41data
49:41which
49:412020
49:42was
49:43concerned
49:43because
49:44you did
49:44see
49:44a
49:45sizable
49:45shift
49:45of
49:45the
49:45youth
49:46going
49:46towards
49:46the
49:47RJD
49:48but
49:48sometimes
49:48the
49:49ghosts
49:49of
49:49the
49:49past
49:50are
49:50way
49:50more
49:50haunting
49:51than
49:51what
49:52one
49:52sees
49:52in
49:52the
49:52we
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51:14He gave us the Favikol bus that never broke apart.
51:38A Cadbury girl who danced her heart out on a cricket field.
51:44And the Pug that followed us everywhere.
52:03Piyush Pandey, the man who turned everyday India into unforgettable storytelling.
52:08A cricketer turned copywriter, he joined Ogilvy in 1982 and went on to build the country's
52:18most successful ad agency.
52:20Under his leadership, Ogilvy India ruled the creative charts for over a decade, shaping
52:25not just rants, but the way India spoke to itself.
52:27And the way India spoke to itself.
52:29This is my house.
52:42From every house, there is something special in life.
52:44From every house, there is something special in life.
52:46From every house, there is something special in life.
52:50His ads captured the pulse of a country in motion, full of emotion, humor and heart.
52:54From every house, there is something special in life.
52:56From every house, there is something special in life.
53:01From every house, there is something special in life.
53:13His ads captured the pulse of a country in motion, full of emotion, humor and heart.
53:19His magic with the pen didn't just extend to copy, but also to lyrics penning
53:38Mille Sur Mera Tumhara, an Indian song that promoted national integration and unity in diversity.
53:49And when politics called, Pandey's words powered one of India's most defining election slogans,
54:10A line that cut through the noise of a billion voices proving that his pen could move more
54:18than markets, it could move the nation.
54:21He was honored with the Padma Shree in 2016, named Global Chief Creative Officer of Ogilvy
54:27and celebrated across continents as the man who gave Indian advertising its own accent, rooted, real and unmistakably ours.
54:36Today, the world of creativity mourns its most iconic storyteller.
54:47A man whose work will outlast the products he sold and whose words will echo far beyond the brands he built.
54:54Jesuike Corp!
54:55Jesu preoccupation
54:58Jesu lighting
55:01Jesu light
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55:10Jesu light
55:10Jesu lez
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