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00:30In the south of France lies Lake Boncalli, a picturesque reservoir some 60 miles northeast
00:44of Toulouse. It's a very, very large expanse of water in quite a remote location up in the
01:05hills, miles from any habitation. It's a very beautiful location.
01:22This very, in the middle of nowhere, it was nobody go in fact, only fishing men.
01:33But in 2001, this tranquil beauty spot revealed a terrible secret.
01:45There had been a notable drought for a very long period that summer. The level of the water
01:52in the lake had dropped about 30 feet.
01:57There is something walking around here who sees the top of the car.
02:08Somebody sees the top from this way, walking on this way. And he called the police.
02:13The discovery of a sunken car brought French military police, the gendarmes, to the lake.
02:20They were immediately suspicious.
02:23The only reason to go with the car this way is to put the car in the lake.
02:31You don't see why you have to go this way if you don't want to hide the car.
02:36There is no house around. Nobody can see the car when he has come here.
02:41We sent local police team, local gendarmerie team to look which car is it.
02:47And we have the description of the red car.
02:52The car was a rusted 4x4 Toyota Land Cruiser.
02:57It had clearly been in the lake for some time.
03:01But what had happened to the driver?
03:09We called the forensic to make investigation underwater, take the car off the water.
03:16A specialist forensic dive team was brought in to help with the recovery.
03:21This was now a potential crime scene.
03:32When the vehicle would have first gone into the water, it was quite deep.
03:36And so you wouldn't have been able to see the vehicle.
03:39If the wind would have been blowing, that would have carried the vehicle out a little bit more.
03:43It would have drifted, which would have entailed a proper underwater search.
03:48In this case, however, the water levels had dropped, which made the job of recovery a lot easier.
03:57But it wasn't without risk.
03:58The diver would have checked all around the vehicle, making sure not to go underneath it, not to get snagged.
04:09You don't want the lifeline to get snagged underneath wheel arches or anything like that.
04:14And also, you don't want to be either downstream or downhill of the vehicle in case it moves.
04:20They have to make a forensic investigation underwater.
04:26Not very easy.
04:28They do a good job, I think, because they make pictures.
04:32Everything we do normally out of the water, they have to do this underwater until very hard.
04:39They would have done a very slow, steady search, looking for any evidence that might have fallen out from the vehicle.
04:46They would then start checking the vehicle itself.
04:51While searching the vehicle, you would check the doors and windows.
05:00The driver's side window was open.
05:05And the diver at the time was able to lean in very carefully and check to see if there was anything on the seats.
05:12And at this particular time, they discovered that there was a body.
05:23She was led across the back seat.
05:28A very good indication that she was either unconscious or dead
05:31and had been placed in the back seat before it was put into the water.
05:35License plate checks revealed the car's owner was 52-year-old mother of three, Evelyn Lund.
05:49A British expat.
05:50She'd been living in France, but was reported missing two years earlier.
05:59It was really traumatic in the time that she was missing.
06:05It was agonising.
06:07I can't even really put into words how it felt for us.
06:12So many different emotions.
06:14The constant anxiety.
06:18You know, questioning, would she have gone away?
06:20But then always coming back round to this,
06:22knowing that she wouldn't have ever just gone off and left her family.
06:25I was very, very worried something terrible would have happened to her.
06:30You just have to sit and wait and hope that the police will do a good job and they'll find her or she'll come home.
06:39Detectives from her home county of Lancashire got involved.
06:41The gendarmes contacted us because they thought we'd be able to help.
06:46They thought their enquiries to be made in Lancashire.
06:49And it was a lot easier for us to do those for them and to see what we could do to assist.
06:55The gendarmes were keeping us updated as the car was being recovered.
07:01They would be treating the search and recovery of this as if it was a crime scene,
07:13just as it would have been on the surface.
07:15So you're trying to log everything you can underwater, first of all, before the recovery of the vehicle takes place.
07:22You don't want to move anything and lose what could potentially be an important piece of information.
07:30But no telltale markings could be seen on the body.
07:34It wasn't possible to draw perhaps some of the forensic opportunities that would normally be available.
07:41Her body had become damaged from being in the water for so long.
07:52There's usually quite extensive decomposition. The skin will be peeling off.
07:57The underlying muscles will be beginning to decay significantly.
08:03Superficial marks are likely to be lost because of the loss of skin.
08:08And so the whole process of decomposition will be working externally by the effects of water
08:13and internally by the normal processes of decomposition.
08:18So a decision was made to keep the body in position.
08:21As the car was carefully winched to safety.
08:25It took them a couple of days to organise how they were going to get the car out of the lake.
08:29The French mounted a very detailed operation with divers to secure the vehicle,
08:37pull it out of the water and then to see what was inside.
08:43But when it came out, the local paper had been tipped off.
08:46They had a reporter on the other side with a cameraman.
08:48They didn't want the cameraman to see it.
08:51So they put a big tarp falling over it and dragged it out.
08:54And having the press there didn't help because it really encumbered them doing what they were doing.
09:04Despite the challenges, the body was sent for a post-mortem.
09:08DNA testing revealed it was indeed Evelyn.
09:11With this family, they now have to go through a new transition.
09:24And that is replacing that hope, that last bit of hope with the reality of what has happened.
09:31And so now I think they're in a new phase of dealing with a loss of someone they loved very,
09:37very much and was a very excellent mom.
09:40I think my sister got a telephone call, probably from the English police.
09:47And she called me and she said they found my mom.
09:50It was such a shock, this unbelievable wave of emotion of all the colours of the rainbow of emotion,
10:00rushed through me in an instant.
10:04The relief, the sadness, you know, breaking down because you know that it's true, she is dead.
10:12And it was just traumatic because then you start to paint a picture of what has she gone through,
10:16what has she gone through in her last moments of life or the last hours of her life.
10:22But there was a huge relief in a very bizarre way, even though it was devastating.
10:31They were only confirming what we'd already known deep down for a long time.
10:36Police had to investigate all possible scenarios.
10:39Had it been a case where Evelyn had driven into the water deliberately,
10:46accidentally rolled in and not been able to escape,
10:49or had some misadventure come to her and had she been placed in the car and then the car pushed in.
10:58We could hopefully start to get some real answers on what had happened.
11:09In the south of France, detectives are investigating after Evelyn Lund's body and car were found sunk in a French lake.
11:24Their search for answers takes them 900 miles from where Evelyn was found to Darwin Lancashire in the UK,
11:35Evelyn's former family home.
11:36They started by speaking to her daughter, Vicky.
11:45I would say we were just a normal, regular family.
11:48We were very outdoorsy.
11:51I think at one point we had five dogs, six cats, two goats, three ponies, chickens, ducks, geese.
11:59My mum would say she really, really liked animals.
12:02Lots of happy memories, yeah.
12:05She devoted her life to her children, her grandchildren and animals.
12:10But unexpectedly, tragedy hit the family.
12:14My dad was diagnosed with cancer and sadly he passed away when I was 13.
12:27It was a big shock.
12:29My mum didn't cope with it well.
12:31He was the love of her life and it hit her really hard.
12:37Evelyn inherited her husband's estate worth more than a million pounds.
12:41She was settled in that respect and that's the only respect that she was settled in really.
12:49And I think that she was lonely.
12:55She was left looking after a farm, some animals and obviously really missed her husband.
13:01She was a very vulnerable woman and was missing the companion.
13:06Within months, Evelyn met 39-year-old divorcee and tree surgeon, Robert Lund.
13:22The neighbours knew Robert.
13:25Robert was, at the time, living in a caravan on their land.
13:30And my mum decided to have a gathering at the house.
13:36And I just remember from the moment he stepped foot through our door.
13:44He just made this beeline straight for my mother and didn't leave her alone all evening.
13:50It was weird.
13:52And then from that day on, we couldn't get rid of him.
13:54They started a relationship and Robert moved in.
14:02Whatever he wanted, my mum would buy for him.
14:06He decided he wanted to get into shooting, clay pigeon shooting.
14:10And my mum bought him a huge great Clydesdale horse.
14:16I guess Robert thought that that would come with some kind of status.
14:20He was very good at spending my mum's money.
14:23He was very interested, I think, in playing the lord of the manor.
14:27She was a wealthy widow.
14:29He was somebody who really saw somebody who could financially help him.
14:35And that is a huge red flag, what we call love bombing.
14:38And they shower you with attention.
14:41It's almost like, I think, the romantic equivalent of a salesperson.
14:45I've got to put the pressure on you.
14:47Because if I give you too much time to think, you're going to realize this isn't really a good deal.
14:52Soon, Robert showed another side.
14:55The way he spoke to my mum, condescending, putting her down, bashing her confidence,
15:01even saying nasty things about her appearance.
15:05For other people to hear, I heard him on many occasions just trying to sort of beat her down a bit,
15:10really.
15:11He also could be super nice one minute and then he would just flip.
15:18He had a very, very bad temper, shouting and screaming.
15:23It wasn't nice.
15:23The insults turned violent.
15:36There was a history of domestic violence in their relationship.
15:40Robert would portray that Evelyn had been violent towards him when she was in drink.
15:46I'm not sure I was correct.
15:47But certainly there was a history of Robert having assaulted Evelyn.
15:59Despite their difficulties, the couple announced they were tying the knot.
16:06The night before the wedding, my mum was upset and she said to me in private,
16:12I don't know if I'm making the right decision. And I begged and I pleaded her not to do it.
16:18She said she wasn't sure.
16:20I told her I wasn't going to the wedding. I refused to go.
16:23I couldn't stand there and watch her marry him.
16:25I was completely against it, but she still went through with it the next day.
16:37All of a sudden, out of the blue, this idea comes to move to the south of France.
16:42The married couple bought a converted barn in the French hamlet of Raysac,
16:50in the remote region of Tarn.
16:53We believe it was him that put the idea in my mum's head.
16:56To move to a very rural area of France, he isolated Evelyn from her friends and family.
17:05Evelyn couldn't speak French, so she was immensely isolated, both geographically and socially.
17:14And that really begins to raise concern.
17:16The domestic violence literature tells us over and over again that isolation is one of the primary
17:22tactics of controlling a victim in a domestic violence situation.
17:28Evelyn is going into the worst possible scenario.
17:33Evelyn did make some friends though, including fellow expat, Mary Ann.
17:38There was always this feeling of tension with Robert between the two of them.
17:45She was very open and bright and jolly, and he was very uptight and stern-faced and miserable.
17:53He was always criticising her, you know, about her looks.
17:59I always remember one horrendous occasion when she wanted to go swimming.
18:05And he would only let her get in our swimming pool if she was in the nude.
18:14And I just thought, how controlling of him.
18:20It was just so sad.
18:22It was just a nasty piece of work.
18:25Evelyn may have become blind to some of the coercive controlling behaviour that he was exhibiting.
18:32Given how vulnerable she was, she'll probably be balancing the good times with the bad times.
18:39I think she was an optimist, and so by moving to France, she hoped it would improve.
18:45But at some times there was domestic violence.
18:51There were many times when I said, you know, you've got to get out of this, have the guts to move away.
18:56She'd be on the phone, you know, upset, crying.
18:59My sisters and all of her friends would openly say, you have to leave him, he's violent.
19:05But the trouble was, she just felt controlled by him.
19:10And of course, when you're in that kind of relationship, it's very difficult to up sticks and go.
19:14So you play mind games with her and tell her that she'd have to give up all of her animals.
19:18That she would have to pay him half or more of her widow's pensions because they were married.
19:26He would just twist her brain with all this false information.
19:30It's emotional and mental abuse.
19:33Everybody had concerns at that point for her safety.
19:37Her mental well-being, emotional and her physical safety.
19:41Soon after Christmas, Marianne heard a knock at her door.
19:50They had had a terrible row and she just ran out of the house, got in the car and came to me to escape.
19:59She was crying. She was just in a deep depression. Somehow she just found it very, very difficult to get out of it and to cope at that stage.
20:14After lunch, they decided to rest. Marianne woke to find a note from Evelyn.
20:18I always remember to this day, gone to feed the dogs and cats. And so she had gone sometime during the afternoon.
20:30And that was the last time that I've ever been seen by anybody.
20:35A couple of days goes by and she hasn't phoned, then everyone's getting concerned.
20:39We haven't heard off my mum. That's just completely out of character. It was unusual for my mum not to ring.
20:44Robert phoned me and said, Oh God, is she still with you? And then I thought, Oh my God.
20:56I knew something was wrong. It was his choice of words. Oh, I suppose she's still with you.
21:02And the flat voice. If she had gone missing, I mean, surely as a husband, there would be emotion, but nothing.
21:11Robert hadn't reported his wife missing either.
21:15We were all threatening him that you need to report her missing, Robert. This is insane.
21:22Why are you not doing it? And all of the family members started saying they were going to report us.
21:27So then he said, All right, OK, I'll report it.
21:31Three days after his wife failed to come home, Robert finally called the police.
21:36His story was it had the argument in the morning. She had left. He didn't know where and she hadn't returned.
21:56The National Gendarmerie launched a search for Evelyn and her car.
22:00So we make an investigation in all the country around Robert from 10 or 20 kilometers.
22:11But the region is dotted with lakes and rivers. So expert underwater search teams were also brought in.
22:20Forensic divers in France dived 20 lakes in an attempt to find the vehicle.
22:26And at the time it was deep winter. And so you've got huge, huge logistical problems here.
22:35They are restricted for how long they can be in there by the amount of air that they're carrying.
22:41And because it's the winter, divers get cold very, very quickly.
22:45Once you start getting cold, it becomes a danger.
22:53In terms of an area to search, it was not an easy one.
22:56You'll never really understand just how long it takes to physically search even a small area for something.
23:03And I know you're looking for something as big as a vehicle, but they can drift an awful long way out or roll an awful long way.
23:09Investigators used heat-seeking cameras from the air to hunt for any signs of Evelyn.
23:24Despite the French having done quite a thorough job, certainly I was quite impressed with the investigation they'd done.
23:32And they couldn't find her, nor the car.
23:35I said to both of my sisters, I think he's, I think he's done something to her, he's killed her, and they agreed.
23:41They told Robert we were going to the house.
23:44I was going down to try and do a little bit of Miss Marple myself and do a little bit of investigating and see if I could find anything unusual.
24:02In the south of France, French and English investigators are hunting for missing mother of three, Evelyn Lund.
24:16Even though she or her body hadn't been found, we were very much treating it as a murder inquiry and helping the French on those grounds.
24:26Their suspicions were raised by learning about Evelyn's violent and controlling marriage to Robert Lund.
24:32The family were saying he would take money from her account and then convince her she'd spent it.
24:39They described him at the time as a bit of a gold digger.
24:42Certainly, there were grounds to suspect that her husband may have been somehow involved in what had happened to her.
24:54But at that stage, there was not sufficient evidence to charge anybody.
24:59Evelyn's daughter, Vicky, made the 900-mile journey to Tarn to help with the search.
25:06We spent some time driving around the country roads, just looking, looking down ravines, driving around, and nothing.
25:15Vicky confronted her stepfather.
25:24Vicky confronted her stepfather.
25:25So, of course, I questioned Ed, a lot of questions, well, what time should she go?
25:33all the usual questions that any normal person would ask he seemed odd he was
25:41acting really bizarre I was sort of going through the house looking for
25:45things and he would be following me around asking me what I'm doing acting
25:51like a guilty man acting like a person that's got something to hide now I also
25:57found that strange because if you're a loving husband you would be glad of the
26:01the support a family coming together to try and work out what's happened he was
26:06not happy at all that I was there police secured a warrant to search the
26:12couple's smallholding when we got there Robert was there and I remember
26:19thinking he was incredibly cool almost to the point of arrogance with us he did
26:27not seem to be a worried man he seemed to be somebody who was very confident that
26:30he was getting away with us but during the search investigators found Evelyn's
26:37handbag
26:41they carefully opened it up we found a lot of finger family when you want to leave
26:48your home you take a lot of things you take all your ID credit cards and all this
26:54thing was found inside the bag was something else of interest
27:01Marion her friend said she was wearing a pair of glasses and her friend distinctly
27:05remembered her taking them off they've got all misted up her being upset and when
27:10her friend had given her a tissue to clean them with and her friends think they
27:13remember this particular pair of glasses the devil wore all the time when we search the
27:17house with the gendarmes that pair of glasses were at the farmhouse it was
27:24incredibly significant and the finding of the glasses Evelyn needed her glasses to
27:29drive so that in the self was a really good indication that despite Robert
27:34insisting that she had never gone back there she had
27:39at her home police uncovered more concerning evidence
27:46methods used by crime scene investigators using ultraviolet light sometimes with
27:51enhancing chemicals make blood shine brighter the presence of blood is really
27:56very significant here there was blood spluttering up the house in the kitchen
28:03area consistent with an assault Robert Lund was brought in for questioning he
28:20claimed his wife had driven off drunk following an argument Robert said that he
28:26thought that she would just have gone to a hotel somewhere in nearby time just to
28:30cool off or cool down a little bit and that didn't make sense because we knew that she
28:35had told her friends and going to back to see the animals the animals were very very
28:39important to her so for those reasons we were convinced that she would have
28:45returned back there and as an English national Robert used his interview rights
28:50under French law to his advantage Robert at this time speak French understand French
28:58but the French law have to impose us to ask the question in English to have an interpreter it
29:07makes a lot of time for for me to prepare what you have to say be very clear that was something
29:14very clever as the interviews came to a dead end Evelyn's husband was released not finding her body also created a major legal obstacle
29:25it was part of French law at the time that without a body nobody could be charged with murder so the investigation really hit the stumbling block at that point
29:39all the while he swanning around thinking he's got away with it I think his confidence
29:46grew from what we'd heard you know he was back out in the community and going around
29:50the markets and thinking he was a thinking he was clever because he got away with it
29:56scot-free it got to the point where we together with gendarmes basically came to
30:02uh uh uh into a cul-de-sac we couldn't take it any further
30:09you
30:11but when Evelyn's body and car were discovered 22 months after her disappearance 15 miles from her home
30:27investigators hope the evidence they found would finally move the case forward
30:34Evelyn's car was sent to the lab for forensic testing
30:40they got in the forensic experts when it was found the driver's window was down
30:45it was a significant and a significant in that the day that Evelyn went missing
30:50there was a storm raging through the area so if you're driving in the storm the last thing you want
30:57to do would be to open your window the gearbox was inspected to reveal more the car was in neutral so
31:05it was unlikely it was driven in I could have ruled in or been pushed in and she's seat was too far
31:13back for Evelyn to have been driving it she wouldn't have been able to reach the pedals
31:20this could explain why the driver's side window was found open
31:25you think about it logically if you wanted to push a car into a lake
31:30you'd wind down the driver's window so you could reach in and control the steering
31:35and then you would push it standing beside it
31:42the forensic findings revealed the likely scenario once the car hit the water
31:56initially it would have taken two and a half minutes roughly for the vehicle to sink
32:03the offender would have probably have left the window open also to make sure it filled with water
32:10more quickly so that the vehicle sank more quickly
32:15if Evelyn was conscious I would say that as soon as that vehicle started going under water
32:21she would have desperately tried to get out
32:25that the back doors weren't open the back windows weren't open it would have been difficult
32:30seeing as soon as she was found in the back seat for her to get through to the front
32:34to get out through the driver's window
32:37there's no evidence of any sort of attempt to get out of the vehicle
32:48the results of Evelyn's post-mortem explain why she didn't try to make an escape
32:53from what we found out from Evelyn and from her body from the post-mortem was that there was dried blood in her clothing
33:08forensic tests also found Evelyn's blood on the back seat of her vehicle
33:15the finding of blood staining of her clothing and in the car is a massively important piece of evidence
33:22it depends a little on the actual distribution of that blood rather than anything else
33:28but it does suggest that she may have been resting conscious or unconscious on the back seat at some point
33:36it shows that it's highly unlikely this was a car accident that ended up with the vehicle in the water
33:45it points very very strongly to Evelyn being injured and bleeding prior to the vehicle entering the water
33:55there was blood inside the boots she was wearing which was an indication that she had bled before her boots were put on
34:04her boots were the boots that she wore to save the animals which is what she said she was going to do
34:10but something didn't seem right
34:14her boots were on the wrong feet
34:17it seemed to support Robert's claim Evelyn was drunk the day she went missing
34:25boots on the wrong feet is very very important
34:29suggests that maybe she was so drunk or under the influence of drugs that she couldn't manage to dress herself correctly
34:39even in a body that is very severely decomposed as Evelyn's body would have been after immersion for 18 months or so in the water
34:46it's still possible to perform toxicological examinations particularly with the organs
34:51it is possible to test for drugs and alcohol to see whether or not she was drunk at the time of her death
35:02but toxicology tests revealed no trace of drugs or alcohol in her body at the time she died
35:09so why were her boots on the wrong feet
35:15it strongly suggests added to other features here like the blood staining that someone else dressed her
35:22but dressed her incorrectly
35:26during the post-mortem there was very little water in her lungs which was an indication that she was either unconscious or
35:31dead at the point where she'd entered the water
35:35adding all that together there was a very good indication that she had been killed
35:43deliberately or inadvertently placed into the car and in the car been pushed into the water
35:50in order for everything to be hidden from the rest of the world
35:53after three years building their case
36:09the gendarme arrested and charged Robert Lund with Evelyn's murder
36:17Robert was remanded in custody
36:19while the investigations continue
36:23prosecutors prepared for a trial
36:26Robert Lund would finally face justice
36:30it was to me a moment of great relief
36:35that at last we were going to get him
36:38and I would do everything in my power to make sure he was
36:43suffering like he had made Evelyn suffer
36:46it made Evelyn suffer
36:56In France, Robert Lund is awaiting trial
37:00charged with murdering his wife Evelyn
37:03whose body was found in her car
37:05deep in a French lake
37:07six years earlier
37:10prosecutors believe Robert killed her
37:12and disposed of her body in the icy water
37:16it was very scary because I knew that I was going to be called
37:20as a very important witness
37:23it was awful
37:25really awful
37:27you know you spend hours and lay there night after night thinking about
37:32what you would say to him or how you will feel when you see that man again in the flesh
37:37Evelyn's family made the journey from Lancashire to see their mother's killer face to face
37:54it was very disturbing when they brought him out and he stood in front of you
37:57which was very daunting
38:00in court
38:02those closest to Evelyn revealed Robert's violent and controlling nature
38:06he always used to stare at me with his horrible eyes as though trying to intimidate me
38:12but obviously I wouldn't let him
38:14we'd sit there all day long
38:16it was difficult because most of what was being said we didn't understand
38:19and the prosecution outlined Robert Lund's motive
38:24money
38:26Robert was dependent from Evelyn
38:29because Evelyn in fact Evelyn has all the money
38:32Robert had nothing
38:34he was very good at taking her cash card
38:36and going to the cash machine
38:38on the day that the widow's pension would go into the account
38:42and emptying the account
38:44and then he continued to do that after she went missing
38:47it was revealed Lund would be the sole benefactor of Evelyn's life insurance
38:55and inherit her estate when she died
38:58but days before his wife's disappearance
39:02she planned to break free
39:04she contacted divorce line in France
39:07to ask about advice about getting a divorce
39:10when somebody is in an abusive relationship and they're getting ready to leave that is the most dangerous time I can't underscore the fact that we find over and over again and research support this
39:28I think he realized that his his meal tickets had gone on perhaps either decided that he could get her money by killing her or maybe in a row having killed her inadvertently he thought well stick with this and I'll be able to get my inheritance
39:53The prosecution took the court through the day Evelyn disappeared
40:02nobody was able to say definitively what had happened
40:03nobody was able to say definitively what had happened but from the circumstances of the car the fact that she had blown her clothing from the circumstances of finding property belonging to Evelyn at the house that had been with her when she had lunch with Marion during the day
40:29adding all that together the only logical explanation was that Evelyn had returned home
40:36there had been a continuation of the row from that morning during that she had been killed or knocked unconscious by Robert and then taken in the car to the lake and dumped
40:49I left him back home maybe on bike or walking probably on bike I think because there is a long way from here to his home
40:58Lon's defense said Evelyn met her death following a car accident
41:02Robert's claims that she was drunk at the time were also repeated in court
41:07sometimes he came across as arrogant other times he was erratic he's telling lies and I am frustrated and it's unpleasant when there's witnesses up there speaking about my mom in a bad way that was really hard as well
41:24not only did the post-mortem prove no alcohol was present in Evelyn's blood experts also questioned the car crash theory
41:33I would find it very difficult to believe that she was in the front seat at all if Evelyn was in the front seat conscious when the vehicle went into the water she would have tried to get it out through the driver's window seeing as the window was open
41:52and most vehicles obviously have got headrests there's very little room over the tops of seats in the front so even though there would have been a flow of water through I would have found it very difficult to believe that Evelyn would have been swept through from the front seat to the back seat
42:17I still believe that she was placed in the back seat by the offender
42:24it was also shown to be unlikely Evelyn would have crashed into that part of the lake
42:29it was really awkward like to get to in that there's a very narrow path with a very sharp turn on the suit that you would have had to have known it known location and maneuvered around to do that
42:40it was difficult for the mika to go in this way and it's not the direct way to
42:47the final piece of the evidential jigsaw the glasses her friend saw her wearing later found at the couple's home
42:57I had the joy of having loads of pairs of glasses produced in front of me and I had to pick out the ones that she'd worn I thought oh my god this is going to be complicated but luckily I did remember and so that proved she had gone home
43:16she could not have driven that car to the lake without her glasses particularly late in the day middle of winter dark middle of a storm it was incredibly significant
43:29for it to be murder the jury have to be satisfied without any shadow of a doubt in their mind
43:36he's actually planned what he's going to do they couldn't come to that decision with enough majority
43:43Robert Lund was however found guilty of involuntary homicide and jailed for 12 years
43:52yeah it was a time of celebration that he could suffer for a tragedy he'd done on on the whole of her family and her poor kids
44:03there was a slight bit of relief that thank goodness he didn't walk out of there
44:09but just anger and frustration that it wasn't murder
44:14in 2009 Lund launched an appeal which he lost but a mistrial meant Robert Lund's case had to be tried for a third time two years later
44:28it was horrendous
44:31horrendous twice twice we have to go through that and now to be told we have to go through it again a third time
44:42it was just unbelievable just so overwhelming we were gutted absolutely gutted
44:49if he was cleared Lund would finally get Evelyn's life insurance and the inheritance
44:56but it was not to be
44:59when they came with the guilty he collapsed he had a little bit of a meltdown
45:06he's completely white and he sat with his head in his hands in shock
45:12I think he thought he was going to get away with it
45:15Robert always seemed to deny it even to himself that he had done anything wrong
45:21we never saw any remorse we never saw any grief we never saw any guilt
45:27Lund was released from prison in 2013
45:32he's evil he's calculated he is damaged in his head
45:39a man that was just always out for his own gain
45:42the sad part was that she died making moves to leave
45:46I think it's important for anybody in an abusive situation to absolutely have a team in place
45:52that can help you navigate that to find ways to be safe and create safety plans
45:57I wish maybe I could find some words to try to make him realize
46:04how evil it was and what he did to her
46:08it's not going to bring her back
46:10nothing anybody says is ever going to bring her back
46:13there are no words that will ever
46:18fix what he did
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