Body in the Water 2025 Season 1 Episode 5

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04:59Tim Boskowski told police he called an ambulance, but it was too late.

05:05Not all aquatic-related scenes involve police divers.

05:15Not all aquatic-related scenes involve police divers.

05:19There are several cases every day, but it was too late.

05:21There are several cases every year of people dying or found deceased in their bathtub, pool, hot tub, shower, any kind of confined water space.

05:29And these are just as important to document.

05:59And they were chaotic.

06:00And they were chaotic.

06:01And they were chaotic.

06:02And they were chaotic.

06:03And she had passed.

06:04By the time Tim comes in, and I meet him for the very first time.

06:07And began to begin to diskut.

06:09And begin to discuss things with him.

06:13There came a point in time where I felt like something just didn't feel right.

06:19What struck me, though, was how cold and just how emotionless that he was.

06:25And I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt because people respond differently.

06:34But officers investigating the scene of the supposed drowning also made some confusing discoveries.

06:40A lane was supposed to have drowned in the tub and there was no water anywhere, not a drop to be found.

06:49One of the Greensboro officers said it was bone dry.

07:02While water is considered transient evidence, as it can dry, which means that evidence will deteriorate over time,

07:09in the time it took investigators to arrive, there is no chance that all aspects of the water would have been dried.

07:17Furthermore, it is very difficult to remove a limp body from a full bathtub.

07:23In doing so, it would have resulted in several puddles and areas of wetness around the bathroom floor,

07:30which, again, were not present in this case.

07:33Still at the hospital, Officer Good called his colleague at the scene of the incident.

07:42We were able to continually communicate back and forth.

07:45I could communicate back what Tim was saying and confirm or corroborate anything that was happening on the scene.

07:53There are certain observations that weren't adding up to what I was hearing from Tim.

08:01He said he had to break into the bathroom.

08:04He literally had to force his way into the bathroom and he did it with a screwdriver.

08:09But there were no marks.

08:10There was nothing out of the ordinary on the door.

08:13I knew how important it was at this point in the case that we get Tim down to the police department and talk to him.

08:24He was not necessarily eager to go at first.

08:27He seemed reluctant.

08:30I had to try to be empathetic.

08:32He just lost his wife.

08:34And I understand I'm walking a fine line.

08:36I know how it can look from the outside in.

08:40It could look like we were being cold or calloused.

08:44But we have to investigate this.

08:46We have to know the truth.

08:47And he eventually agreed to come with reluctance, but he came.

08:58Tim Boskowski was interviewed.

09:01By now, police had compared his account against what was found at the family's apartment

09:05and statements from the friends Elaine and her husband had spent the evening with.

09:10And he begins to go through the way things unfolded.

09:14And that's when things began to unravel over that next 45 minutes.

09:22The first thing he said was that she was submerged in water.

09:25And somehow, he was able to pull her out of the bathtub to try to resuscitate her,

09:30which would have flung water everywhere.

09:32The only thing that we found in the bathtub was a little bit of vomit.

09:39That's all that was there.

09:43The way he portrayed Elaine to us, she must have been a heavy drinker.

09:49Her friends that were at the party,

09:50in their statements, the police said that she was not intoxicated at all,

09:56was not impaired when she left the party.

09:59So there was a little conflict in the stories there.

10:04An examination of Elaine's body would start to reveal more.

10:07If this were an accident and, say, someone slipped and fell in a bathtub,

10:13they would likely hit probably their head or some part of their body.

10:17But they would have that one injury.

10:20In this case, there were other injuries on the body, other blunt force injuries.

10:25The husband stated that this must have happened when he was providing CPR.

10:28Well, it is true that occasionally we do have rib fractures when providing CPR,

10:34but they are very specific.

10:36They're very specific ribs, and they're in very specific locations on the body.

10:41These were not there.

10:42These were not rib fractures from doing CPR.

10:45On her abdomen, there were some marks that corresponded to the track marks on the shower door.

10:55And so that was very suspicious as well.

11:02Tim then told us that he took Elaine and somehow tried to revive her,

11:08and then he draped her over the bathtub rail, the bathtub itself,

11:14and was pushing on her, trying to revive her, which time she got sick.

11:20All of the things that he said, all of those particular facts didn't line up.

11:26Every time I would almost have him beginning to talk and say more,

11:33he would start with these scripted, spontaneous utterances.

11:36He would just try to sidetrack the conversation,

11:39but he would never, never confess and never would say exactly what he had done.

11:50I think one of the reasons that Tim tells different versions of what happened

11:54in terms of his discovery of Elaine is,

11:57I'm not sure he had thought through the exact scenario of what he was going to be telling.

12:02If you're trying to concoct a scenario and you're being asked questions that you haven't thought through,

12:09then it is much easier for you to slip or begin telling different versions of what happened

12:15because you haven't thought that part of the story out.

12:19Tim Boskowski's story did not add up,

12:22and police strongly suspected foul play.

12:27But they would need more than just the muddled account of a grieving husband

12:30if they were to prove he had a hand in his own wife's death.

12:34In Greensboro, North Carolina,

12:51detectives are trying to piece together how a mother of three,

12:54Elaine Boskowski,

12:56could have drowned in the bathtub at her family home.

13:00Her husband Tim's account of events

13:02doesn't match what they found at the scene.

13:06Tim tried to tell us that somehow she had been drunk in the bathroom

13:10and she had fallen or something in the tub and hit her head.

13:17And he repeatedly said that,

13:18that somehow she had hit her head

13:20and that had caused her to be in the water.

13:25So he stuck to that story over and over again.

13:27Police hoped the post-mortem would offer answers as to how Elaine died.

13:36Meanwhile, they started looking into the Boskowski family.

13:39Hey, Sandy.

13:44Tim and Elaine were really kind of the apple pie family in so many words.

13:49He and Elaine started a little miniature golf ice cream place

13:59out north of Greensboro.

14:05And they became active in a Catholic church in Greensboro

14:10and developed a little group of friends

14:13who socialized together, went to church together,

14:17and that sort of thing.

14:17Greensboro proved an idyllic place

14:23for the couple to raise their three young children,

14:26Randy, Sandy, and Todd.

14:32Elaine was very well-liked, well-respected.

14:36A lot of her volunteering and working, helping out,

14:40took place at different events through their church.

14:43She adored her kids.

14:47You can just see that they were just a close-knit,

14:51just a wonderful family.

14:52What do you have there, Randy?

14:54A bicycle.

14:55A bicycle?

14:57But detectives soon realized

14:59this picture-perfect couple wasn't without its problems.

15:03As we began to pull back the layers of this marriage,

15:08looking at the family unit,

15:11what we found out was that both Tim and Elaine

15:13were living a very distant life from each other.

15:17They were getting ready to end their marriage.

15:21They may have been living under the same roof at this time,

15:26but they were not living as husband and wife.

15:32They were just keeping it from the kids,

15:34because the children were all little.

15:37At the time, they didn't want them to know.

15:39But the marriage was not in a good place.

15:46There were some practical reasons

15:48for the fact that the two of them

15:49were still living under the same roof.

15:51I know that they were in the process

15:53of closing Tim's business down.

15:56Elaine had been raising the kids.

15:58She was a homemaker,

15:59so they would have been in a difficult financial situation.

16:04Their finances were in shambles.

16:06He had two failed businesses at this point.

16:10They were just in a really, really bad place.

16:13It began to make us look and think,

16:15OK, we need to maybe look into the background

16:18of insurance policies.

16:22We found one insurance policy for $25,000.

16:32Meanwhile, friends and associates

16:34had gathered around to support the family.

16:36They included estate attorney Kevin Rockford.

16:43Bostkowski said to Kevin Rockford,

16:45can I speak to you for a minute?

16:46So they went upstairs to get away from,

16:48you know, the rest of the folks.

16:51And Bostkowski says,

16:53how do I collect the life insurance money?

16:56And Kevin Rockford was pretty much surprised at being asked that

17:03because, you know,

17:04here Bostkowski's wife had just died just a few hours before.

17:10Tim and Elaine had met in the 1970s,

17:12and they met at a Catholic singles function.

17:14So they were pretty young when they met.

17:17And they had been together for, you know, for many years.

17:20It's difficult to get a business off the ground,

17:22and he was struggling with that.

17:23And I think that contributed to some of the stress in the marriage.

17:26But I also think that, you know, people change over time.

17:29And when you get married and you have three children,

17:31and as you get older,

17:33I think it's pretty natural to kind of re-evaluate your marriage,

17:37but also to re-evaluate who you are.

17:39And I think that was something that came out a lot about Elaine.

17:48By now, police had the results of the post-mortem.

17:53Every death doesn't result in an autopsy.

17:56You know, normal deaths where people die from old age

18:00and that sort of thing.

18:02Typically, autopsies are performed in suspicious deaths.

18:05In this case, the autopsy was performed in Chapel Hill,

18:09which is about an hour from Greensboro.

18:11The autopsy showed some immediate red flags.

18:17One of the important things is the toxicology results and report.

18:23In this case, blood was taken and other fluids,

18:26and toxicology was examined.

18:27There were no drugs and no alcohol.

18:30There was no alcohol found in her body,

18:32contrary to what her husband had said

18:34of her heavy drinking the night before.

18:36We were just told by a husband

18:38that his wife was literally about drunk

18:41and had been drinking all night, been drinking wine,

18:44and that she was just fall-down drunk.

18:48That was a lie.

18:49The autopsy also couldn't conclusively show

18:56whether Elaine had died by drowning that night.

19:04When we talk about drowning,

19:05it could be any one of five manners of death.

19:09It could be accident, suicide, homicide,

19:12natural, or undetermined.

19:13We have to basically rule out other causes of death

19:17when we're talking about drowning.

19:20It is a diagnosis of exclusion,

19:23and it's often very difficult to prove.

19:28There was no water in her lungs,

19:30which is not totally unusual,

19:32because there is such a thing as a dry drowning,

19:35where the larynx has a spasm.

19:36It's called a laryngospasm,

19:38and it prevents water from entering the lungs.

19:42But in this case,

19:44the rest of the story just didn't make sense.

19:48The pathologist was able to determine

19:50the cause of death as asphyxiation.

19:52However, they were unable to determine

19:54if that asphyxiation was due to drowning

19:57or other means,

19:59leaving the manner of death ruled as undetermined.

20:04When we saw the results of the autopsy,

20:07we could not pursue a case.

20:12It was a serious blow to the investigators,

20:15who strongly suspected

20:16a murder may have been committed.

20:19We have guidelines we have to follow.

20:22We just can't make things happen.

20:25Regardless of what we know,

20:27even if we know what the truth really is,

20:29there's nothing we can do.

20:32We knew that he had some part in Elaine's death.

20:35We knew it.

20:36But we couldn't unequivocally prove it.

20:41We did not have enough probable cause.

20:44The level of frustration was out the roof

20:46because I only had a limited amount of time

20:49to accomplish this.

20:51After speaking to him for about 45 minutes,

20:54the interview was interrupted

20:56to allow him to leave.

20:59Straight away, they looked at it as a suspicious death

21:03but couldn't charge him.

21:07We were thinking we'd just let a killer go free.

21:09I can remember the first time we went camping,

21:26and Mike and I...

21:28In North Carolina,

21:30suspected murderer Tim Boskowski has walked free,

21:34despite police suspicions that his wife Elaine's death

21:38in the family bathtub was no accident.

21:41After Elaine Boskowski was killed,

21:47the husband was not charged with a murder.

21:53The medical examiner was not able to determine a cause of death.

21:58So the case just kind of went on hold.

22:01Tim never came off the radar

22:07of our criminal investigations division at Greensboro.

22:12No one had forgotten what had happened to Elaine

22:14and that Tim was there.

22:17This case never really went cold for us.

22:20It's just that we didn't have enough.

22:22The following year,

22:31Tim Boskowski left Greensboro,

22:34taking his three children

22:35and returned to his home state of Pennsylvania.

22:42I think his decision to move back to Pennsylvania

22:45was practical in the sense that

22:46he's got a support system there,

22:48he's got extended family there,

22:49he's got three young kids now

22:51that he has to raise as a single dad.

22:54And I also think that he saw it as a fresh start.

22:56So I think to some extent,

22:58maybe there was a little bit of kind of erasing his past

23:02and starting over again.

23:10He started attending a Catholic church.

23:13They had some kind of group for young adults

23:16where they could come and socialize.

23:19And that's where he met Marianne.

23:21They developed a relationship.

23:24She got to know Randy, Todd, and Sandy

23:26and was close to the children.

23:30And so their relationship developed

23:33to the point to where they married.

23:39Let me ask you this, too.

23:40What kind of man,

23:43after his wife has been dead for less than a year,

23:46starts going to singles events

23:48and finding him another wife?

23:49To kind of compare Marianne and Elaine,

23:56for starters, they looked a lot alike.

23:59And everybody commented on that,

24:01how he picked another wife

24:03and got involved in a relationship with another woman

24:06that looked a whole lot like Elaine.

24:08So that was a little uncanny.

24:12Marianne was also well-liked.

24:14It's really interesting how the folks

24:17that knew Marianne in Pittsburgh

24:19had a lot of the same things to say about Marianne

24:21that was said about Elaine,

24:22that she was involved with the church,

24:24that she was a good mother.

24:27It's hard to know what to make of the fact

24:30that she is so physically similar,

24:32and also their interests are similar.

24:34I mean, the fact that this happened so quickly

24:36makes me think it's a little bit more than that.

24:39That's not just that he's picking somebody who's a type,

24:43but that he's picking somebody in a way

24:45that is a replacement.

24:49And that, you know,

24:50I wonder how much his unresolved issues

24:54around their marriage and her death

24:57played into him picking somebody

25:00who is so similar to Elaine.

25:04And one of the things that does make things

25:06a little bit easier for the kids

25:07is how strikingly similar Marianne looks to Elaine.

25:14Randy, Todd, and Sandy loved her,

25:17saw that they had a chance at having another mother.

25:20But in the course of all that,

25:24we were at a standstill

25:26about anything we could do on this side.

25:27All we could do is watch and hope

25:29that he behaved.

25:38But almost four years to the day

25:42after Elaine's death,

25:44detectives back in North Carolina

25:46received an astonishing phone call.

25:48We were notified by Pennsylvania

25:51of what had happened to his second wife.

25:57Medics and police had been called the family home.

26:00Yet again, it seemed,

26:03tragedy had struck Tim and his family.

26:06His second wife, Marianne,

26:09was found dead in their backyard hot tub.

26:12That right there was probably the darkest day

26:16in my law enforcement career.

26:19That evening, he and Marianne were in the hot tub.

26:23They had a hot tub at the back of the house.

26:25And he claimed that Marianne had been drinking

26:29way too much beer.

26:30He said she must have had something like 15 or 17 beers

26:33that night while they were in the hot tub.

26:36He leaves her in the hot tub by herself

26:38while he goes inside to take a shower.

26:39So he comes back out after a while

26:42and supposedly finds Marianne just in the water

26:47in the hot tub, unconscious.

26:49So he gets her out of the hot tub somehow,

26:53calls 911, says he found his wife in the hot tub,

26:58that it appeared that she had drowned

27:00after having too much to drink.

27:02When called to an aquatic-related scene

27:11looking at a case of an accidental drowning,

27:14the victim is unlikely to have any injuries,

27:17as a lot of the times that is simply from someone

27:20dying from being unable to swim in water,

27:22becoming fatigued in water,

27:24or becoming unconscious in water.

27:26In Marianne's case, things were a little different.

27:32Upon examining her body,

27:33she had several bruises along her neck and chest

27:36that led investigators to believe

27:40that something else might have occurred.

27:43It was reported that Marianne had been in the hot tub

27:45for 15 or 20 minutes prior to paramedics' arrival.

27:50A body that has been in such a warm environment for so long

27:53would have had extreme skin wrinkling,

27:57especially in her fingers and toes.

28:00The presence or absence of the skin wrinkling

28:03would have been a quick way to determine

28:05if that part of the story was true.

28:08The police department had the same suspicions

28:11that we had in Elaine's case in Greensboro,

28:16but he wasn't able to cover his tracks

28:18as much on this particular case,

28:21and it started unraveling a little bit quicker.

28:25There's a fascination here with water.

28:30His next wife died around the jacuzzi.

28:34He claimed that he tried to do CPR,

28:37and the detectives noticed he had

28:40one of those little portable CPR masks.

28:43We even carried them back in police days.

28:45And he had somehow had a CPR mask

28:50sitting around the house.

28:54All the paramedics and whatnot

28:56found that to be a very unusual circumstance,

28:59that a husband would use a breathing device

29:02to resuscitate his wife.

29:05Then police made a connection

29:07that would change the course of this investigation.

29:09Buck Boskowski, the father, gets there,

29:14and one of the detectives overhears

29:17Buck Boskowski asking Timothy, the husband,

29:22do they know about the first wife in Greensboro?

29:25One of the detectives overhears that

29:27and goes over to Timothy and Buck Boskowski

29:30and says, what are you talking about?

29:31Has he been married before?

29:34Yeah, he had a first wife

29:35who died under similar circumstances

29:38in Greensboro, another accident.

29:41In addition, Timothy was heard to say,

29:43I hope they don't try to pin this on me.

29:47That was another statement that came out

29:50that sort of piqued the curiosity

29:51of the law enforcement there.

29:59Pittsburgh police immediately contacted

30:01officers in Greensboro.

30:02The detective in Pittsburgh

30:06talks to Detective Ken Brady,

30:09the Greensboro police detective,

30:11and says, do you have a file

30:13on Timothy Boskowski?

30:15And Ken Brady says,

30:16got it right here on the corner of my desk.

30:18It's been here for four years.

30:27I began to think,

30:29we let him, we let him kill again.

30:32In Pittsburgh,

30:37Mary Ann's body was taken for an autopsy.

30:40Initially, it could be

30:42a very plausible explanation

30:43that this was an accidental drowning.

30:47But upon further investigation,

30:49we noticed that there are injuries

30:50to her back and to her legs.

30:52These could possibly even be defensive injuries,

30:55especially the ones on her legs,

30:56because when we try to defend ourselves,

30:58we use everything we have.

30:59We use our arms and our legs.

31:01Now we're starting to look

31:03at a totally different story.

31:06In addition,

31:07small punctate hemorrhages

31:08were found on Mary Ann's skin.

31:11And basically,

31:12this is going to lead us

31:13to thinking that this was strangulation.

31:15The injuries would not come

31:17from simply being in a hot tub.

31:19There were more physical findings

31:23that the pathologist was able to make

31:27in connection with Mary Ann's case.

31:29There were bruises and scratch marks.

31:33Tim did have physical scratches,

31:36defense marks on his body

31:38that he could not explain away.

31:41And the detectives immediately

31:43picked up on that.

31:44The medical examiner in Pittsburgh

31:45was able to conclude

31:47that it was a violent death,

31:50a homicidal death.

31:54Police had now charged Tim Boskowski

31:56with Mary Ann's murder.

31:59Next, they turned their attention

32:00back to the death of his first wife,

32:03Elaine.

32:03So looking at all that,

32:06including physical findings

32:07in both cases,

32:09Dr. Butts was willing

32:10to take another look

32:11at Elaine's autopsy

32:13and then concluded

32:15that it was a violent,

32:16intentional death.

32:18And his opinion

32:20as to the cause of death

32:21was positional asphyxiation.

32:28It basically means

32:29a compressing of the diaphragm.

32:31You know, if the diaphragm

32:32can't move up and down,

32:34you know, you can't get enough

32:35oxygen in the lungs

32:36to survive.

32:37And we believe

32:38that it was over the bathtub

32:39because she had the track marks

32:41and that it compressed

32:42the diaphragm long enough

32:44for her to die.

32:49In both cases,

32:51the M.E.s found little to no water

32:54in both of their lungs.

32:57It had nothing to do with water

32:59as their cause of death.

33:00Once that happened,

33:03once it was considered a murder,

33:05we were able to make our case.

33:14Tim Boskowski was arrested

33:16and charged with two murders,

33:19leaving his three children stunned.

33:21When my father was arrested,

33:30I was 10 years old.

33:33You know, I just lost my mom.

33:36I lost my stepmom

33:37and now I'm losing my father

33:38and it definitely, definitely messes

33:41with someone's psyche.

33:42Just the whole mental aspect of it,

33:45you cannot wrap your head around.

33:46For the officers back in North Carolina

33:51who had put the case

33:52into Elaine's death on hold,

33:54news of Mary Ann's death

33:56also had a profound impact.

33:59When he killed Mary Ann,

34:01it did open the door

34:02for us then to be able

34:04to make the case for Elaine.

34:05If Mary Ann had not died,

34:08I don't think we would have ever

34:11been able to make the case

34:13and bring Tim back to North Carolina.

34:17The only word I can come up with

34:18is bitter, bittersweet

34:20because we could not stop

34:23that second murder.

34:24In the U.S.,

34:42Timothy Boskowski

34:43is awaiting trial

34:44in two separate states.

34:47Police believe he has killed

34:48not one wife,

34:49but two,

34:51using almost identical methods.

34:54But it seems his deeds

34:55may now finally

34:56be catching up with him.

34:59When you look at the timeline here,

35:02Tim, on November the 4th of 1990,

35:06he murdered Elaine

35:08here in Greensboro.

35:12Less than two years later,

35:15he kills the next wife.

35:19Two stories that were

35:20just eerily similar.

35:22Drinking too much

35:24and drowning in the bathtub,

35:26and then four years later,

35:28almost exactly to the day,

35:30wife number two

35:31has too much to drink

35:32and drowns in the family hot tub.

35:36Boskowski claimed

35:37that both were accidental.

35:41I mean, I thought

35:42the odds are one in a million

35:43that that could be true.

35:44Drownings are a difficult

35:55diagnosis to make.

35:56In Elaine's case,

35:57we look at all of the injuries

35:59on her body.

36:00We look at the fact

36:01that there were

36:01more than one head wound.

36:03We look at the fact

36:04that there were these track marks

36:07on her abdominal area.

36:08There is no other explanation

36:10except this was a violent death.

36:13This was a homicide.

36:13So in looking at all the evidence

36:17from Mary Ann's case,

36:19being in a hot tub

36:20with similar circumstances involved,

36:22the injuries would not come

36:24from simply being in a hot tub.

36:26Something is amiss.

36:28Somebody is not telling the truth

36:29in this case.

36:34It's almost like the fact

36:36that they have no consequences

36:37for that first murder

36:40emboldens them

36:41to think,

36:42now I know how to do it.

36:44Now I know how to murder somebody

36:46and get away with it.

36:47And I think this

36:48is a big motivator for them

36:50or at least a disinhibitor

36:51to if they have the motive

36:54to do it again.

36:57And in both marriages,

36:58things weren't what they seemed

37:00on the surface.

37:02We know he killed his first wife.

37:04A lot of questions

37:05that are left unanswered

37:07such as what was

37:08the real motivation.

37:09After all,

37:10he did cash in

37:11on the $25,000 insurance policy.

37:14The marriage appeared

37:16to have gone cold.

37:18There could have been jealousy

37:19on Tim's part.

37:21We don't know.

37:22But in the aftermath of it,

37:25we find out

37:25that they really

37:26are not a couple.

37:30The marriage has just dissolved

37:32and that they

37:34no longer love each other.

37:37In their marriage,

37:38that really changed

37:39a lot of things.

37:41The ice cream store,

37:43they, you know,

37:43it fell apart financially

37:45and just wasn't,

37:46you know,

37:47a success

37:48as they hoped for.

37:50And that was another

37:51stress point,

37:52another sticking point.

37:53He kind of got bored

37:56and decided to read

37:58my mom's journal

37:59and that's where

38:00he found information

38:01that he did not like.

38:03He found out that,

38:04you know,

38:04she had written romantically

38:06about somebody

38:06from church,

38:07from our church.

38:09He didn't like that

38:10and he felt betrayed.

38:14He felt, you know, angry.

38:18But police thought

38:19Boskowski had another motive.

38:23Can money be a motivation

38:24to murder?

38:25Can money be a motivation?

38:30In terms of the amounts,

38:33the life insurance policies

38:34that in Elaine's case,

38:36it was $25,000.

38:38And in Mary Ann's case,

38:40it was $100,000.

38:41So he learned

38:43how to make it more lucrative

38:44and four times more lucrative.

38:47I would really be interested

38:48in knowing what story

38:49Tim told himself

38:50about that life insurance policy.

38:53Because I would think

38:55that he made up

38:57a very good story

38:58to tell himself

38:58about why he got that policy.

39:01I think he would have told himself

39:03that, hey,

39:03we're a family now

39:04and if something happens

39:05to Mary Ann,

39:07I'll need money

39:08to help with the kids

39:09or whatever.

39:10But I think

39:10he absolutely knew

39:12deep down

39:13that the option

39:15for murder was there.

39:17he had done it once.

39:19He would do it again.

39:24Detectives also suspected

39:26his methods

39:27had evolved

39:27across the two killings.

39:29He had a CPR mask

39:31because he had learned

39:32from the first time

39:34when he was doing CPR

39:36on Elaine,

39:37he got chunks of vomit

39:39in his mouth.

39:40and so in preparation,

39:43he had bought a mask.

39:45He had learned something

39:46from the first time

39:48he had killed.

39:49That particular fact

39:52stuck out to me

39:53about Mary's case.

39:55But with two murder trials

40:01in two different states,

40:03bringing Boskowski

40:04to justice

40:04would be a complex task.

40:07We have two completely

40:09different legal systems.

40:11Each case was handled

40:13in its own way.

40:14They had to abide

40:15by Pennsylvania laws

40:17and then North Carolina

40:18the same.

40:19So what had to be decided

40:21was who was going

40:21to get him first.

40:23And we ended up

40:24having him

40:24extradited back

40:25and we were able

40:27to try him here

40:28in North Carolina.

40:39When we went to trial

40:41with Tim here

40:42in Greensboro,

40:44all this information

40:45was seared

40:45into our minds.

40:47We were ready.

40:48We were confident

40:48in our case.

40:50You think about

40:51everything that you

40:52can present in evidence

40:53that you can argue

40:55to the jury.

40:56Stuff like,

40:57this is a one in a million

40:57chance that that occurred.

40:59I have to have evidence

41:00to support that.

41:01So it was very important

41:02for me to get that evidence

41:03in from Pittsburgh

41:04so that I could then argue

41:06the possibility

41:07that these two deaths

41:09could occur accidentally

41:11in the same fashion

41:12is astronomical.

41:16One of the things

41:16I like to do

41:17when I argue

41:18to the jury

41:18is I'll get over

41:20in front of the defendant

41:21at his table

41:21and point at him.

41:23And so I'm looking

41:24at him

41:24while I'm in his face

41:27basically.

41:28He's not responding

41:30at all.

41:31You know,

41:31you get a lot

41:32of these guys,

41:32you know,

41:32they'll even talk

41:34back to you

41:35in court.

41:36But, you know,

41:38he was stoic,

41:40non-compassionate,

41:41and he was just

41:42emotionless.

41:45You would think

41:46that being a part

41:48of a case like this

41:49and finally seeing

41:50it come to a conclusion

41:51would make you feel

41:52just, I don't know,

41:55better?

41:56Better?

41:57Well, the truth is

41:57when guilty,

42:00the guilty plea

42:01was read,

42:03we were all exhausted.

42:09He was given

42:10the maximum sentence

42:11for North Carolina

42:13for the murder charge.

42:16I think he served

42:17about 22 years.

42:18I think he got

42:18paroled in 2018.

42:22I convicted him

42:23in November of 1996.

42:26So, yeah,

42:27that's about 22 years.

42:31The courts

42:32hadn't finished

42:33with Boskowski, though.

42:36After he was

42:37found guilty

42:38in North Carolina,

42:39he was taken back

42:40to Pennsylvania

42:40to stand trial

42:42where he was found

42:43guilty

42:44of that second murder.

42:47He was initially

42:53given the death penalty

42:55in Pennsylvania.

42:57There were some appeals

42:59that happened,

42:59and it was reverted

43:00back to a life sentence.

43:02It's a very unfortunate case

43:06primarily because

43:08of the children.

43:10You've got these

43:10three children

43:11who are going

43:13to have to live

43:13the rest of their lives

43:14without either mom,

43:18with their dad

43:19being incarcerated.

43:21Hey, Randy,

43:21what's your nap for?

43:23Ha-ha!

43:23I was a child,

43:26and it was almost

43:27as if our relationship

43:29froze in time.

43:31Hey, Randy,

43:31we're walking.

43:33I have all

43:34of these things,

43:34you know,

43:35inside my head,

43:36and my heart's being

43:36pulled in two different

43:37directions,

43:38and that's when I,

43:41you know,

43:42made the decision

43:43to go visit my father.

43:45I wanted to confront him

43:50in a way that,

43:52you know,

43:52I didn't before,

43:54and so I came up

43:57with this idea

43:57of, you know,

43:59pretty much giving him

44:00an ultimatum

44:01of you either tell me

44:02what really happened

44:03or you will never see

44:05or hear from me

44:05ever again,

44:06and he was instead

44:08wanting to hide

44:10behind his legal appeals,

44:12and then I discovered

44:14a week later

44:15that, you know,

44:16he had written a letter

44:17to my brother,

44:20and in that letter

44:22he took responsibility

44:24for taking the life

44:26of my birth mom, Elaine.

44:33When it came

44:34to my stepmom's death,

44:36my father maintained

44:36his innocence,

44:38which was just

44:39absolutely mind-blowing,

44:40you know,

44:41I mean,

44:42just the physical evidence

44:43alone just makes it

44:44absolutely, you know,

44:46ridiculous.

44:48I interviewed

44:49the three children

44:50before I tried my case.

44:52You wonder how

44:53to fix those kids.

44:56I can tell you

44:57how sad it is

44:58because I lost

45:00my first wife,

45:01and

45:03my daughters were nine

45:12and six.

45:16So I can only imagine.

45:21My relationship

45:22with my father right now

45:23is non-existent.

45:25I last had conversation

45:27with him in 2018.

45:29I wrote him

45:30a letter,

45:32and it was

45:32a final letter.

45:34It was more or less

45:34a goodbye letter.

45:38Forgiveness is

45:39something that

45:40I think a lot of people

45:41just misinterpret

45:43or misunderstand.

45:44Forgiveness is

45:46nothing about

45:47the other person.

45:47It's a gift,

45:49and it's a gift

45:49that you give yourself.

45:52Just because I forgive him

45:53doesn't mean that

45:54I need or want

45:54anything from him.

45:56The reality is

45:58is he took

45:59someone's life,

46:00my mom, Elaine,

46:01and then my stepmom,

46:03Marianne.

46:04He deserves to be

46:06where he's at,

46:07plain and simple.

46:08So

46:19you

46:20have

46:21a

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