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00:00Thank you for listening.
00:30Thank you for listening.
01:00Our little delegation.
01:03You said they've been paired to the bone.
01:05So it has.
01:06Well, who are they?
01:07Well, it starts with a small delegation from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.
01:10But this is a DAA mission.
01:14Yes, but we are going abroad.
01:16Foreign policy is at stake.
01:18We're going to ratify the contract for one of the biggest export orders Britain has ever obtained in the Persian Gulf.
01:23But that was all negotiated by British Electronic Systems Limited.
01:27What do we need with all these civil servants?
01:29Who are all the rest?
01:30Well, there's a delegation from the Department of Trade and one from Industry.
01:34There's a small group from Energy.
01:35After all, we are going to an oil shakedom.
01:38There's a Deputy Secretary leading a team from the Cabinet Office.
01:42There's the group from the Central Office of Information.
01:44Then there's our own team from the DAA.
01:45Hey, press secretaries, private secretaries, he is on with other departments, secretaries.
01:51Those from the legal department who did the contract, those who supervised the contract.
01:55Paired to the bone?
01:56Paired to the bone.
01:57But when we were going to meet the Qumranis in Middlesbrough, we were only going to take seven people with us.
02:01Well, Teesside is perhaps not quite so diplomatically significant as Qumran.
02:06Teesside returns four MPs.
02:08Qumran controls Shell and BP.
02:13What are you doing here?
02:14Purely my sense of duty-free.
02:17Duty-free?
02:20A duty free from any personal considerations.
02:23Let you care to approve this, Minister?
02:26What is it?
02:26It's the final communique.
02:28The final communique?
02:29You can't write the communique before you've had the meeting.
02:31On the contrary, Minister, you can't write the communique after you've had the meeting.
02:35No, we have to get agreement from half a dozen other departments.
02:38From the E.C., from Washington, from the Qumrani Embassy.
02:41You can't do all that in a few hours in the middle of the desert.
02:44But this may bear no relation to what we actually say.
02:46Well, no communique ever bears any relation to what you have to say.
02:49Well, why have one?
02:50Well, it's a sort of exit visa that gets you past the press corps.
02:53The journalists needed to justify their huge expenses for a futile non-event.
02:58Non-event?
02:59Oh, well, of course, a brilliant triumph for you, Minister.
03:02Which is why it's a futile non-event for the press.
03:06What they'd really like is for me to get drunk at the reception or something.
03:09Oh, yes.
03:10Not much hope of that.
03:12Qumran is dry.
03:13Oh.
03:14Well, of course, it is in the middle of the desert.
03:19You mean Islamic law?
03:22Alas, yes.
03:22We shall be able to get a drink at the British Embassy, shall we?
03:27Well, at the Embassy, yes, but the reception and the dinner at the Palace.
03:31Five hours of orange juice.
03:34Five hours?
03:35Without a single drinkie?
03:36Why don't you let me come on this trip, I'm afraid.
03:40Okay.
03:41What are we going to do?
03:43Hip flasks?
03:44No, no.
03:44Much too risky.
03:45We have to grin and bear it.
03:48Why don't we set up a security communications room next door to the reception?
03:53You know, emergency telephones, telex lines to Downing Street, all that sort of thing.
03:57Then we could fill it with cases of booze brought in from the innocent.
04:01Minister!
04:02Liven up the orange juice.
04:05That is us.
04:06Roke of genius.
04:09Good job.
04:10Well, a special communications room would need a major crisis.
04:14Five hours on orange juice is a major crisis.
04:16Well, the pound is under pressure.
04:18Could you arrange it, Humphrey?
04:20Well, if those are your instructions, Minister, I think I can guarantee enthusiastic support.
04:24It really was awfully generous of you to present me with this very splendid gift.
04:48It is a great pleasure to be able to commemorate this day.
04:52It's so beautiful.
04:53A magnificent example of 17th century Islamic art.
04:59What was it originally?
05:00A rosewater jar.
05:01I see.
05:02I see.
05:02For, er, rosewater, presumably.
05:06Quite so.
05:07Oh, excuse me, Minister.
05:08There's an urgent call for you in the communications room.
05:10A Mr. Hague.
05:11General Hague?
05:19No, Mr. Hague.
05:20You know, with the dimples.
05:24Excuse me.
05:25Most important.
05:33I believe there's a message for me from Mr. Hague.
05:36Yes, Minister.
05:48I'm the only woman here.
05:49Yes, special dispensation.
05:51They've made you an honorary man for the evening.
05:54This is going to look wonderful on the corner table in our hall.
05:57Oh, well, actually, Mrs. Hacker, I'm not sure if...
05:58If what?
06:00Well, you see, it's a gift to the Minister.
06:01Well, it's his hall, too.
06:03No, what I mean is, I don't think you'll be allowed to keep it.
06:06Why ever not?
06:07Well, I suppose it could be thought, if it were valuable,
06:09it could influence some ministers.
06:12I mean, not your minister.
06:13That is my minister.
06:14Our minister.
06:14Your husband, as it is, in fact.
06:17I mean, he is.
06:19I mean, well, some ministers...
06:21Bernard!
06:23Sorry.
06:24Are you telling me we have to give it back?
06:26Oh, no, no, that would be an insult.
06:28We can't keep it.
06:29We can't give it back.
06:30What do I do?
06:30Well, it becomes the property of the government,
06:32and it's put in a basement somewhere in Whitehall.
06:34Are you sure we can't keep it?
06:36Not if it's worth more than about 50 pounds.
06:39How do we find out?
06:40You get a valuation.
06:41Could you get a valuation?
06:43Well...
06:43Wouldn't it be wonderful if it was less than 50 pounds,
06:47because it's awfully pretty?
06:49Well, I...
06:50I suppose I could try.
06:54Oh, Bernard, you are wonderful.
06:56Well, I don't know what we'd do without you.
06:59Ah.
06:59Ah.
07:00Bernard.
07:01Excuse me.
07:02Wanted in the communications room,
07:03Mr. John Walker.
07:09Johnny Walker?
07:10Yes, from the Scotch office.
07:15Scottish office.
07:16Isn't there a message for me, darling?
07:17Yes, of course there is.
07:19Bernard will get it for you.
07:21Give him your glass.
07:22If you give him your glass,
07:24he'll get you some more orange juice as well.
07:27Oh, Bernard.
07:28Is Humphrey here yet?
07:29Yes, he's just over here.
07:30Yes, that's good.
07:32Ah, excuse me.
07:33What's that?
07:39What do you...
07:40Ah.
07:41Traditional foreign office courtesy
07:43to our Arab hosts.
07:44Isn't that right, Effendi?
07:45Ah, spot on, Humpy.
07:48Isn't that right, Your Royal Highness?
07:50Yes, we regard it as a most warm
07:52and gracious compliment.
07:53May I present our minister, Mr. Hacker.
07:55This is Prince Mohammed.
07:57How do you do, Your Royal Highness?
07:58Pleased to meet you, Your Excellency.
08:00Excellency.
08:01I say, if you'll excuse me,
08:03I just must have a quick word with Sir Humphrey.
08:05Please.
08:05Highness, I can't believe my eyes.
08:08What do you hear as Alibaba?
08:11Minister, when in Rome...
08:12We are not in Rome.
08:13Humphrey, you look ridiculous.
08:15I suppose if we were in the Fiji Islands,
08:17you'd be dressed in a grass skirt.
08:19The Foreign Office takes the view
08:21that as the Arab nations are a very sensitive people,
08:24that we should show them whose side we're on.
08:26Well, it may come as a surprise to the Foreign Office,
08:28but you're supposed to be on our side.
08:29Sir Bert, any messages in the communications?
08:35Oh, well, there is one for Sir Humphrey, Minister.
08:36Oh, good, yes.
08:37Yes, the Soviet embassies on the line,
08:39Sir Humphrey, and Mr. Smirnoff.
08:45Sorry.
08:48Are you sure there isn't one for me?
08:50Oh, well, there was a message
08:51from the British Embassy compound,
08:53the school,
08:54a delegation of teachers.
08:55Oh.
08:57Must go and greet the teachers.
08:59Yes.
08:59Before the bells goes.
09:01Bell goes.
09:04You are receiving a great many
09:07very urgent messages.
09:08Yes, yes, we are.
09:10Oh, Bernard, excuse me.
09:11Your Royal Highness,
09:12I wonder if I could present Mr. Pennington.
09:15Excuse me.
09:16Oh, yes, of course, Your Highness.
09:17Excuse me, Effendi,
09:21but I could not help
09:22overhearing your conversation
09:24about valuing the gift.
09:26Perhaps I can help.
09:27Oh, well, that would be...
09:28Do you have any idea how much?
09:30Of course.
09:31An original 17th century
09:33rosewater jar is very valuable.
09:35Oh, dear.
09:36You are not pleased?
09:37Yes and no.
09:39You see, if it's too valuable,
09:41the Minister won't be allowed to keep it,
09:42and I was rather hoping it wasn't.
09:44Ah.
09:45Well, as I was saying,
09:47an original 17th century
09:49rosewater jar is very valuable,
09:51but this copy,
09:52though excellently done,
09:54is not of the same order.
09:55Oh, good.
09:57About how much?
09:59I would be interested
10:00to hear your guess.
10:03Oh.
10:04Well, a little under 50 pounds?
10:07Brilliant.
10:09Quite a connoisseur.
10:10And you would sign
10:11a valuation certificate?
10:12But of course.
10:15Your English customs
10:16are very strange.
10:18Oh, why?
10:19You are so strict
10:20about a little gift,
10:21and yet your electronics company
10:23pays our finance minister
10:24a million dollars
10:25for his cooperation
10:26in securing this contract.
10:27Is this not strange?
10:32You...
10:32You don't mean...
10:33Of course.
10:34I worked for the finance ministry.
10:36I got my share of the money.
10:38What?
10:38What?
10:38What?
10:38For keeping my mouth shut.
10:43I see.
10:44Would you excuse me
10:45for a moment?
10:48Minister,
10:49can I have a private word
10:50with Sir Humphrey?
10:50Oh, yes.
10:51You may speak freely.
10:53Yes.
10:55Oh, there was a message
10:56for you in the communications room.
10:57Ah.
10:58The Vat Man,
10:58your 69 returns.
11:01Vat 69.
11:03Oh!
11:04Ah!
11:05Yes.
11:05Thanks.
11:11I'm rapidly coming
11:12to the conclusion, Bernard,
11:13that the minister
11:14has had almost
11:15as many urgent messages
11:17as he can take.
11:19Well, I've just found out
11:20the most terrible thing,
11:21Sir Humphrey.
11:21Oh, dear me.
11:22This contract
11:23was obtained by bribery.
11:25Of course.
11:25All contracts
11:29in Qumran
11:29are obtained
11:30by bribery.
11:30Everybody knows that.
11:32It's perfectly all right
11:33as long as nobody knows.
11:35Shouldn't we tell
11:36the minister?
11:36Certainly not.
11:37What if everybody knows?
11:39Everybody else.
11:41Do not let a minister
11:42know what everybody
11:43else knows, Bert.
11:44Ah, yes.
11:46Ah, very nice
11:46to see you.
11:47Ah, Mr.
11:48Lawrence of Arabia.
11:50Wanted from
11:50the communications room.
11:51Oh, dear.
11:52Who is it?
11:54Napoleon.
11:55It is alleged
12:03in Le Monde
12:04that the recent
12:05British Electronic Systems
12:07contract with Qumran
12:07was won by bribery.
12:10Did you hear this, Humphrey?
12:11Yes, indeed, minister.
12:13It's said that this is
12:14part of a hideous
12:15web of corruption
12:16woven by Western
12:17industrial countries
12:18and Third World governments
12:19that forms a blot
12:21on our modern civilization.
12:23The webs don't form blots,
12:24minister.
12:25Well, spiders
12:27don't have any ink,
12:28you see.
12:31Only cuttlefish.
12:33Spiders don't have
12:33cuttlefish.
12:34What are you talking about?
12:35No, I know, you see.
12:36Thank you, Bernard.
12:38Isn't this terrible?
12:39To print baseless
12:40accusations like this.
12:41Oh, yes, yes.
12:42Terrible.
12:43Bexish, palm greasing.
12:45God, we're British.
12:46Absolutely.
12:47Absolutely, minister.
12:50It's not like the FT
12:51to print a story like this
12:52unless there's something
12:53behind it.
12:55Is there something
12:56behind it, Humphrey?
12:57I think the sports news
12:58is behind it.
13:02I want to know
13:03the truth, Humphrey.
13:05I don't think you do, minister.
13:07Will you answer
13:07a direct question?
13:09I strongly advise you
13:10not to ask a direct question.
13:12Why?
13:12It might provoke
13:13a direct answer.
13:15Never has yet.
13:18Bernard, what do you
13:19know about all this?
13:20Tell me on your
13:20word of honour.
13:22Oh, well, I, uh,
13:23that is, um,
13:24there was.
13:25Someone did.
13:26There's a lot of gossip,
13:27that's all, minister.
13:29Rumour, hearsay.
13:30Bernard?
13:31Well, one of the
13:31Cambranians did tell me
13:32that he'd received, uh,
13:34hearsay, minister.
13:35Hearsay.
13:36Yes, Bernard heard
13:37him say it.
13:39Are you telling me,
13:40Humphrey, that the
13:41BES contract was won
13:42by bribery?
13:43Oh, minister, I do wish
13:44you wouldn't use words
13:45like bribery.
13:46Oh, what would you
13:47like to say?
13:48Slush funds, sweeteners,
13:50brown envelopes?
13:51Oh, minister, these are
13:51extremely crude and
13:53unworthy expressions for
13:55what is no more than
13:56creative negotiation.
13:57It is the general
13:58practice.
13:59You do realise what
14:00you're saying, don't
14:01you, Humphrey?
14:01I ratified that
14:02contract, didn't I,
14:03in good faith?
14:04Yes, indeed, minister.
14:05And did that
14:05communique that I
14:06issued to the press,
14:07I announced a
14:08British success, won
14:09in a fair fight?
14:10Yes, I did wonder
14:11about that bit.
14:13And now you're
14:14telling me that it
14:14was got by bribery?
14:16No, minister.
14:17Oh, it was not
14:18got by bribery?
14:19That is not what I
14:19said.
14:21Well, what did you
14:21say?
14:22I said I am not
14:22telling you it was
14:23got by bribery.
14:25Well, how would you
14:26describe these
14:27payments?
14:27How does the
14:29contract describe
14:30them, you mean?
14:30Yes.
14:31Oh, well, that's
14:32really quite simple.
14:33Retainers, personal
14:33dolations, special
14:35discounts, miscellaneous
14:37outgoings, agent's
14:38fees, political
14:39contributions, management
14:41expenses.
14:42And how are these
14:43payments made?
14:44Well, anything from a
14:45numbered account in a
14:46Swiss bank to a fistful
14:48of used oncers slipped
14:49under the door of the
14:50gents.
14:50Do you realise how
14:53shocking this is?
14:54Oh, minister, that is a
14:55narrow and parochial view.
14:57In other parts of the
14:58world, they see things
14:59quite differently.
15:00So there's not a branch
15:01of geography, Humphrey.
15:02Oh, but it is, minister.
15:03In developing countries, the
15:04size of the extra
15:07contractual payment is the
15:08means of showing how
15:09serious you are about the
15:10deal.
15:11It's like a publisher's
15:12advance to an author.
15:13The one who pays the
15:14biggest advance is the one
15:16who expects the biggest
15:16sales, that's all.
15:18I just don't believe
15:19this.
15:19Are you saying that
15:20winking at corruption is
15:21government policy?
15:22No, no, minister.
15:24It could never be
15:24government policy.
15:25That is unthinkable.
15:27Only government
15:28practice.
15:30That was the press
15:31office, minister.
15:32Looks as if the papers
15:33may want a statement
15:33about the Qumran bribery
15:35allegation.
15:35A statement?
15:36Well, what am I going
15:37to say?
15:37Well, I'm sure the press
15:38office can devise
15:39something convincing and
15:40meaningless.
15:40After all, that's what
15:41they're paid for.
15:43You're a cynic, Humphrey.
15:45Cynic.
15:46A cynic is what an
15:47idealist calls a
15:49realist.
15:51That's the total
15:51truth.
15:52After all, I knew
15:53nothing of this.
15:55Why should I back
15:55something that I never
15:56approved?
15:57But this contract
15:58means thousands of
15:59British jobs, millions
16:01of export dollars.
16:02Surely you're not going
16:03to throw all that
16:04away because of some
16:04small technical
16:05irregularity.
16:06It is not a small
16:07technical irregularity.
16:08It is corruption.
16:09No, no, minister.
16:11Merely a few
16:12uncontracted prepayments.
16:14Humphrey, I don't
16:15expect you to
16:15understand this, but
16:16government is not
16:17just a question of
16:18fixing and
16:18manipulating.
16:20There is a moral
16:21dimension.
16:21Oh, yes, of course,
16:23minister, the moral
16:24dimension.
16:25I assure you it is
16:26never out of my
16:27thoughts.
16:28So, if this comes up
16:29in Parliament or if
16:29questions are asked in
16:30the press, I shall
16:31announce an inquiry.
16:32Oh, splendid idea,
16:33minister.
16:34I shall be most happy
16:34to conduct it.
16:35No, no, no, no, no.
16:37No, no.
16:38Not an internal
16:39inquiry.
16:40A real inquiry.
16:41Minister, you can't be
16:42serious.
16:42A real inquiry.
16:43No, minister, I beg you.
16:45Comfrey, the moral
16:46dimension.
16:53Good evening, Mrs. Hackett.
16:54Oh, Bernard, come in.
16:55Gin's just coming.
16:56Thank you very much.
16:57Not you, Bernard?
16:58Yes, minister.
16:59Come for a moment.
17:00Hello, there's that jar
17:01from Qumran.
17:02Yes, funnily enough,
17:03a friend of mine was
17:04round here this afternoon
17:05and was frightfully
17:05interested in it.
17:06Oh, really?
17:07Her name's Jenny Goodwin
17:08from The Guardian.
17:10The Guardian?
17:11She asked where
17:12it came from.
17:13A journalist?
17:14Yes.
17:15Well, The Guardian,
17:16anyway.
17:19She asked what it was
17:20worth.
17:20I said about 50 pounds.
17:22You said about 50 pounds?
17:24Yes.
17:24Funnily enough,
17:25she thought it was
17:26genuine.
17:27She thought it was
17:27genuine?
17:28Yes.
17:29Bernard, you sound
17:30like an answering machine.
17:32Oh, I'm sorry.
17:33She asked if I'd mind
17:34if she rang up the
17:35Qumranie embassy
17:35to ask what it was worth.
17:37To ask what it was worth.
17:40So, what did you say?
17:41Oh, I said,
17:42by all means.
17:44It is only a copy,
17:45isn't it, Bernard?
17:47Well, so far as I'm,
17:50so I'm led to.
17:52Good gracious,
17:53is that time?
17:57Now, Bernard.
17:58Oh, sorry, Sir Humphrey.
17:59The minister's going
17:59to be a few minutes late.
18:02Well, come back.
18:05Well, actually, Sir Humphrey,
18:06I wonder if I could
18:07have a word with you.
18:08Yes.
18:12I said yes.
18:15Yes, I know.
18:17You see,
18:18something the matter,
18:20Bernard.
18:22Come on,
18:23out with it.
18:25Did you send the minister
18:26to the wrong dinner?
18:30Give him the wrong speech?
18:31Show him some papers
18:34we didn't mean him to see.
18:38Worse?
18:41Much worse?
18:46You'd better sit down.
18:51Tell me about it.
18:53Well, you know that jar
18:55the minister was given
18:56in Qumran.
18:57Well, the minister's wife
18:58liked it.
19:00I expect she did.
19:01And then when I explained
19:02the rules to her,
19:03she looked terribly sad.
19:06They always do.
19:09And then she asked,
19:10was it really worth
19:10more than 50 pounds?
19:11And she said,
19:12wouldn't it be marvelous
19:13if it wasn't?
19:13And she sort of
19:14looked at me.
19:16But my dear Bernard,
19:18a 17th century vase.
19:20Yes, I know, I know.
19:21But there was this terribly
19:22nice Qumrani businessman
19:23and we had a...
19:26a...
19:27a conversation
19:29and he valued it
19:31as a copy,
19:32not as an original.
19:3349 pounds, 95p.
19:39And you believed him?
19:40Well, yes,
19:41he said he was an expert
19:42and he spoke Arabic
19:43awfully well.
19:43And so I accepted
19:46his valuation in good faith.
19:47After all,
19:48Islam is a jolly good faith.
19:51Bernard,
19:52you took a grave
19:53personal risk.
19:54You're lucky
19:54nobody has asked
19:55any questions.
19:56Well, that's just it,
19:56you see.
19:57A journalist from
19:57The Guardian
19:58saw it in the minister's house
19:59and started to ask
20:00a lot of questions.
20:00Of course,
20:01Mrs. Hacker said
20:02it was a copy,
20:02but the press
20:04are so horribly
20:05suspicious about things.
20:07Despicable.
20:08So,
20:09what shall I do?
20:11The minister
20:11must be told
20:12I'm sorry to keep you.
20:18That's all right.
20:19You read my submission,
20:21minister.
20:21Yes, I did,
20:21and it won't do.
20:22I'm not going to be accused
20:23of sweeping bribery
20:24under the carpet.
20:25So,
20:25if questions are asked,
20:27I'm going to announce
20:27a full independent inquiry
20:29chaired by QC.
20:30But, minister,
20:31you can't.
20:31That contract is worth
20:32340 million pounds.
20:34Get the behind me,
20:35Humphrey,
20:36the moral dimension.
20:38Well, minister,
20:39if there is an inquiry,
20:41other things may come out,
20:42too.
20:43Such as?
20:45I'm afraid Bernard
20:46has something to tell you.
20:53Well?
20:57Well,
20:58you know that jar
20:59the Qumranis gave you?
21:00Yes, it's up the flat now,
21:01most attractive.
21:02Well,
21:02I told Mrs. Hacker
21:03she could keep it
21:04because I had it valued
21:05for less than 50 pounds,
21:06but I'm not sure.
21:07The man who valued it
21:08was awfully nice,
21:08and I told him
21:10Mrs. Hacker liked it a lot,
21:11but he may have been
21:12just, well,
21:14being helpful.
21:16It's all right, Bernard.
21:17No one will ever know.
21:19Jolly enterprising,
21:20after.
21:20No,
21:20Mrs. Hacker told me
21:21a journalist had seen it
21:22and was asking a question.
21:25Journalist?
21:26Now to see that valuation.
21:31Hmm.
21:32The Treasury
21:33isn't too happy
21:34about valuations
21:35written on the backs
21:35of menus.
21:36It is a very good menu.
21:41What is it worth, really?
21:43Well, if it's a copy,
21:44what the valuation says,
21:45probably.
21:46And if it's genuine?
21:48About 5,000 pounds.
21:49Oh, my God.
21:51I kept it.
21:52All right, send him in.
21:53Minister,
21:53Bill Pritchard
21:54from the press office
21:54is coming in to talk.
21:55Not now, Bernard,
21:56not now.
21:57I'm trying to deal
21:57with this terrible problem
21:58you've landed me with.
21:59Well, that's what
22:00he wants to talk to you about.
22:02Well,
22:03Minister,
22:03the Foreign and Commonwealth
22:04Office are in a frightful state.
22:06It seems that
22:07Mrs Hacker has told
22:08the Guardian
22:08that that extremely
22:09valuable 17th century thing
22:11presented to you
22:11by the Qumrani government
22:12was a copy.
22:14The Guardian phoned
22:15the Qumrani embassy
22:16for their comments.
22:17Now the Qumran government
22:18are incensed
22:19at the suggestion
22:20that they insulted Britain
22:21by giving you
22:22a worthless gift.
22:23The FCOs say
22:24it's building up
22:24into the biggest
22:25diplomatic incident
22:25since death
22:26of a princess.
22:26And there's a reporter
22:30outside from the Guardian
22:32demanding to see you
22:32right away.
22:39Yes, Bernard.
22:42Minister,
22:42what are you...
22:45Bernard,
22:45my duty is clear.
22:47I have no choice.
22:49No choice?
22:50No choice, Bernard.
22:51I didn't ask you
22:53to lie to my wife
22:54about the value
22:54of that gift,
22:55did I?
22:55Well, no, but...
22:56Bernard,
22:57I realise that you acted
22:58from the purest possible motives,
23:00but I'm sorry.
23:01There can be no excuse
23:02for falsifying a document.
23:04But I...
23:04Let me continue, please.
23:06I cannot have it said
23:07that I asked you to do this.
23:08No more, Humphrey,
23:09than I have it said
23:10that I connived
23:11at bribery and corruption
23:12in our business dealings.
23:14Enough is enough.
23:15So I'm afraid
23:16if this journalist
23:17asks me straight questions
23:19on either of these subjects,
23:21I shall have to give her
23:22straight answers.
23:25The moral dimension.
23:28Miss Minister,
23:29I agree with you.
23:30I see now
23:31that there is a moral dimension
23:32to everything.
23:37Will you tell the press
23:38about the communications room,
23:40or shall I?
23:40Yes.
23:45You know,
23:49all the scotch in Qumran.
23:53You mean to tell me
23:54that...
23:55if I say...
23:57then you must tell...
24:00and drop me in the...
24:03in the...
24:04In the moral dimension.
24:10This is completely different.
24:12It's not the same thing at all.
24:13Why?
24:14Drinking.
24:14It's not corruption.
24:16No, it's just deceit,
24:17that's all.
24:18We have deceived the Qumranis.
24:20I am racked with guilt.
24:24Tormented by the knowledge
24:25that we have violated
24:27their Solomon's
24:28sacred Islamic law
24:28in their own country.
24:31Sooner or later,
24:32we'll have to own up
24:33and admit
24:33that it was all your idea.
24:36It wasn't.
24:36It was.
24:40Was it?
24:42Is it 50 lashes
24:44or a hundred?
24:47Minister,
24:47I must ask you
24:48to meet this journalist
24:49or she'll write
24:50something terrible anyway.
24:51Oh, yes, yes,
24:52all right, yes.
24:53What am I going to say?
24:54Well, may I suggest
24:55that attack
24:56is the best form
24:57of defence?
24:58Yes, attack.
24:59Attack, yes.
25:00Good thinking.
25:01Have for you.
25:02Yes.
25:03Got it.
25:04Minister,
25:04may I introduce
25:05Miss Jenny Goodwin
25:06from the garden?
25:06Oh, I do come in.
25:08Sit down,
25:08won't you, Jenny?
25:09I may call you Jenny,
25:10may I not?
25:11If you like.
25:12Now,
25:13what seems to be the trouble?
25:15Two things, really, Minister.
25:16Both of them
25:17rather worrying
25:18to the public.
25:19The first is a story
25:20that you may have seen
25:21in the French press.
25:23It's about corruption
25:24in BES
25:25getting the Qumrani contract.
25:27Complete nonsense.
25:29But they quoted reports
25:30of payments to officials.
25:32Really,
25:32this is absolutely typical.
25:34A British company
25:35slogs its guts out
25:36to win orders,
25:37create jobs,
25:38earn dollars,
25:38and what does it get
25:39from the media?
25:40A smear campaign.
25:41But if they won by bribery,
25:42There is no question
25:43of bribery.
25:44I've had a full
25:45internal inquiry
25:46and all these so-called
25:47payments have been identified.
25:49What has?
25:51Commissioner,
25:52these administrative overheads,
25:54operative costs,
25:55managerial surcharges,
25:56introduction expenses,
25:58miscellaneous outgoings.
25:59We have looked into
25:59every brown envelope.
26:02Every brown envelope.
26:05Every account book
26:07and everything
26:07is completely in order.
26:09I see.
26:10And may I say
26:11one further thing?
26:12Allegations of this nature
26:13are symptomatic
26:14of a very sick society
26:15for which I'm afraid
26:16the media must take
26:17its share of the blame.
26:18The media?
26:19Why are you putting
26:20thousands of British jobs
26:21at risk?
26:22I am calling on the press council
26:24to censure the press
26:25for its appalling
26:26lack of professional standards
26:27in running this story.
26:29The council,
26:29and indeed,
26:30the House of Commons
26:31must be concerned
26:32about the standards
26:33which have applied
26:33in this disgraceful matter.
26:36And pressure
26:36will be brought to bear
26:37to make sure
26:38that this sort of
26:39gutter press reporting
26:40is not repeated.
26:43I see.
26:44Well,
26:45there is this other question.
26:47It's about the
26:48rose water jar
26:49apparently presented
26:51to you in Qumran.
26:52Yes.
26:53Well,
26:53I saw it in your flat,
26:55actually.
26:55Well, yes,
26:56we're keeping it there
26:56temporarily.
26:58Temporarily?
26:59Oh, yes,
26:59it's very valuable,
27:00you know.
27:00Mrs. Hacker said
27:02that it was an imitation.
27:03Burglars, girl,
27:03burglars.
27:05You gossip.
27:08I'm sure we can get rid of it.
27:09Get rid of it.
27:10Yes,
27:10I'm presenting it
27:11to our local museum
27:12as soon as I get up
27:12to the constituency
27:13at the weekend.
27:15Well,
27:15I can't hold on to it,
27:15you know.
27:16It's government property.
27:18Now,
27:20what was your question?
27:23No,
27:23that's,
27:25that's all right,
27:26actually.
27:26Um,
27:26I,
27:27no,
27:28no,
27:28that's fine.
27:29Nothing more.
27:31No,
27:31no,
27:31that's all.
27:32Oh,
27:32well,
27:33good if you drop it.
27:35Thank you,
27:35Minister.
27:36Goodbye,
27:36Jenny.
27:42Superb,
27:42Minister.
27:46Thank you,
27:47Minister.
27:47Well,
27:48it was nothing.
27:49One must stick by
27:50one's friends.
27:51Yeah,
27:51I'm fine.
27:52Come on.
27:55Loyalty?
27:57Yes,
27:58Minister.
27:58Thank you very much.
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