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In hour one, at what point does embarrassment kick in for Stephen Ross? We’re fully expecting the Dolphins crowd to turn on McDaniel and Tua at some point this Sunday if they fall behind. Crowder doesn’t think McDaniel can handle that type of scrutiny.
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00:00Anyway, what I was saying to Solana and Jimmy was, you know, I wonder when Stephen Ross, when the embarrassment hits, because this is a billionaire who's had success in business, but he hasn't had success on the field with the Dolphins, but his franchise is being talked about nationally as an embarrassment.
00:21It's not being talked about as a loss.
00:24I have some more comments from pundits today talking about the Dolphins performance Sunday, but his coach, like his handpicked coach is being called nerd boy by Rex Ryan.
00:38You know, like the local media is covering the Dolphins as harshly as I've seen.
00:47And it puts Stephen Ross to me in an interesting position because you can handle losses and you can handle adversity and you can handle occasional poor performances, but can you handle being a national embarrassment in your sport?
01:06Is it just a part of his portfolio or does he have that passion behind it?
01:13Because to be honest, the business side of the Dolphins is rolling with the stadium, with the, with the net value, with all of that stuff.
01:21He does a great job of that.
01:23He still owns crazy amounts of real estate in New York.
01:25Is this just a little entity investment or does he have that passion behind him?
01:29Because the embarrassment of that, or to be honest, he's sitting around with billionaires at dinner and they're saying, Hey, what are the Dolphins doing?
01:40That's a, that's so the ego would have to get a part of it.
01:43And I think sooner or later, and you got to throw in his age.
01:47Like he wants to be six.
01:49He's an 80, 80 year old.
01:51What's it called?
01:52Octogenarian.
01:53Yeah.
01:53Like, yeah, the ego gets involved.
01:56His, his net worth has gone up since owning the Dolphins.
02:00But I don't think he's put football people in positions.
02:03Kind of like what we talked about yesterday with Parcells and going to get a football mind.
02:08I guarantee he has some real estate guy that helps him with his real estate.
02:13A loan guy, a bank person that helps him with the money.
02:16Where's your football guy?
02:18That would be my question.
02:19If we ever really sit down and had a heart to heart.
02:21And I, I think it is a passion project for him.
02:26It's not his business, the way the Cowboys are Jerry Jones, where Jerry Jones is encompassed
02:32by everything Cowboys, but he doesn't want to be embarrassed.
02:36And there's a point where it goes from, Hey, we're not having the success.
02:40I wanted, although my billion dollar investment is worth $5 billion now, which is great.
02:45But at some point it becomes an embarrassment.
02:48And that's the, to me, like that's the, that's the turn.
02:54That's the left turn.
02:56That's where, when, when, when it hits him, I've created, or I've bought something and
03:02turned it into an embarrassment.
03:04That's where wholesale changes could be made.
03:09Um, we're going to talk about it.
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03:36bears, Minnesota, and JJ McCarthy had an unbelievable comeback.
03:41I am not sold on Caleb Williams.
03:44We've got a, I did have a Roma dunze anytime touchdown last night.
03:50So luckily as Solana pointed out because Caleb Williams scrambles, he gets into the end zone.
03:56They call it a touchdown and upon further review too, he's a half a foot away from getting
04:03that ball past the, uh, the, uh, the goal line and they have to run another play and sure
04:11is bleep.
04:12I mean, this never happens, but I'm on a heater this year, but sure.
04:15But Roma dunze is wide open in the back of the end zone.
04:20Well, he, he scores a touchdown, but he's like, his toe was on the line just before he extends
04:27his toes on the line.
04:28Just before he crosses the plane, they spot the ball.
04:31They overturn the call.
04:32They spot the ball at the half yard line.
04:35Well, they're going to hand it off, right?
04:36You're at the half yard line.
04:37Just punch it in.
04:39No, let's throw it to Roma dunze who didn't do anything before the fourth quarter.
04:43Literally didn't do anything.
04:44Hop, I'm so happy for you, man.
04:46Anytime touchdown at plus one 90, but that's Ben Johnson.
04:51Everyone expects that you're just going to run the ball.
04:53Ben Johnson's going to do something a little cutesy.
04:55He's going to get Roma dunze open.
04:57Unfortunately, Ben Johnson didn't know how to manage the clock at the end.
05:00He looked like Matt Eber.
05:03This JJ McCarthy there.
05:06I think they're going to regret getting rid of Sam Darnold.
05:10He looked good, man.
05:12You didn't see the second half.
05:14You didn't see the second half because he looked like a different quarterback in the
05:18second half.
05:19I'm not saying better.
05:21I'm saying he looked good.
05:23He looked serviceable.
05:25I'll give you that.
05:26Sam Darnold was setting records.
05:29Bro, he was throwing dimes.
05:31The broadcast pointed this out several times.
05:35The Bears, they had their ones take snaps in preseason.
05:39The Vikings, for whatever reason, didn't.
05:43They didn't really play their ones.
05:45JJ McCarthy played a couple snaps.
05:46I think it was 12 snaps in the first preseason game.
05:48They sort of played him, and they pointed that out at halftime.
05:52It shows.
05:53The Bears looked like they were ready to go, and JJ McCarthy struggling.
05:57But once he settled in, bro, he's got the best wide receiver in the game.
06:00He finally starts throwing to him.
06:02And then the dart he threw to Aaron Jones to take the lead, that looked like a good quarterback
06:07to me, man.
06:07Yeah, he's good.
06:09He's good.
06:10And, but on the other side of that, Chicago's top two corners were out.
06:15Yeah, no, no, no.
06:16And their linebacker was out.
06:17But Caleb Williams, to me, is a problem because I just don't see it.
06:21Like, I don't see it.
06:22He gets cutesy.
06:24He tries to get too cutesy too often.
06:27Sometimes you just have to drop back and pass to your receiver.
06:31You don't always have to be getting cutesy and hustling around to try to find an even better
06:37look at something.
06:38So, I don't know.
06:39Bears fans are not.
06:41I can't imagine happy with that collapse because they had that game won.
06:47They had that game won.
06:48Minnesota didn't look like they belonged on the field with them.
06:51Caleb's pocket presence is terrible.
06:55Terrible.
06:55He takes off when he doesn't have to take off and stands there when he needs to.
06:59Like, I don't know.
06:59I don't know what they – I don't know if he has no peripheral vision.
07:02They need to get his eyes checked.
07:03That was bad what I saw.
07:07We'll get headlines in a second.
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07:30Dolphins are one-and-a-half-point favorites still at Hard Rock Stadium on Sunday.
07:35Has Mike McDaniel ever had to deal with a loud home crowd booing him?
07:43Because if they come out slowly Sunday, if that offense stalls, I don't recall if there's been a situation.
07:52Obviously, there's going to be smattering of boos any time, and I'm sure they've played poorly over three years at home before.
07:59I'm saying a stadium that has turned on him and the team and Tua because it will happen quickly Sunday based on what happened this past Sunday.
08:11And I don't recall if Tua or Mike McDaniel has dealt with that.
08:15Tua hasn't because Tua is – like you said, we treat him with white gloves his whole career.
08:19I don't think Mike McDaniel could deal with disappointment, just his demeanor.
08:24I don't think he's going to deal well with getting booed and not having that damn plan B that OG talks about all the time.
08:31Like, score some points, genius.
08:33I don't want to call him nerd boy.
08:35I call him offensive genius.
08:37You know, Rex Ryan got a lot of heat for calling him nerd boy.
08:41What am I missing there?
08:42Is it that insulting?
08:43Like, I saw Barry Jackson going, hey, you've crossed the line, and someone else I saw was like, oh, you've crossed the line, personal attack.
08:53I'm like, Rex Ryan was the victim of personal attacks his entire career based on his foot fetish, his choppers.
09:02Like, I mean, he's dealt with it.
09:05I don't understand the outrage over calling Mike McDaniel nerd boy.
09:10Overweight as well.
09:10Don't forget that one.
09:11I used that one a couple times.
09:12And overweight.
09:14There's an old country saying, a hit dog, a holler.
09:18And I think you got a little close to home with calling him a nerd with other people that might have been called nerds in their life.
09:25But the same way that we take issue with the way that we're so fragile with Tua, right?
09:31You guys are always saying Tua has to be protected, and he's coddled, and we can't say mean things about Tua because of his head injuries.
09:38We're doing the same thing with Mike McDaniel.
09:40Crowder, I disagree.
09:41I disagree wholeheartedly.
09:42The stadium turns on him.
09:44Guess what?
09:44He's an adult.
09:45He's gone through addiction and made it out on the other side and became an NFL head coach.
09:49He's gone through worse adversity than a couple fans who have punted on him in the fourth season of his NFL career.
09:54He'll be fine.
09:55This dude's a grown-ass adult, even if he wears a kid's medium.
09:58I don't think there's people that can deal with criticism, and I don't think Mike McDaniel, this is my opinion.
10:05I don't think he's not going to be good getting booed at home.
10:08Well, I'm telling you, fan base is at its breaking point.
10:11And if you see a slow start or a sputtering offense, look out because I think Dolphins fans are waiting for the opportunity to pounce.
10:22Hawk, this is Ryan Tannehill going out there with the Dolphins approaching another 7-9 season, knowing that by the end of the first quarter, the entire stadium will be chanting for Matt Moore.
10:35Multiple seasons.
10:36Matt Moore.
10:37We want more.
10:38I'm just saying.
10:38We want more.
10:39Mike McDaniel and Tua have never dealt with it.
10:42Never.
10:43They've had a pretty clean three years because they've been good.
10:47I mean, the first two years, they were very good.
10:49They were fun.
10:50You know, and it was a breath of fresh air.
10:53Last season was a little bit different, but, I mean, what are you going to do?
10:55Are you going to boo Tim Boyle?
10:57Who cares?
10:57I mean, you know, like, this will be interesting to me on Sunday.
11:02And Tua already got a little sassy with Omar.
11:04That's a wild statement that you said.
11:07And then Omar tweets out, like, facts.
11:09Like, no, you throw a lot of interceptions and fumble.
11:12Like, what are you talking about?
11:14Well, guys, today's Tuesday.
11:15We're going to find out tomorrow who showed up for film.
11:19Who stayed late?
11:20I mean, Tua, I want to know.
11:22Tomorrow he'll speak to the media.
11:23I want to know who showed up today because I loved Omar and St. Claude.
11:30They were doing their podcast, and he was in tears.
11:32He's like, the guy that messed up is telling you, hey, you better be here tomorrow.
11:35Like, no, you better be here tomorrow, guy.
11:38Like, what are you talking about?
11:39I want to see who shows up Tuesday.
11:41Like, hey, you should show up Tuesday.
11:43What about you?
11:44It's not my job, big man.
11:47All right.
11:48Let's get headlines real quick.
11:50Chris Perkins from the Sun Sentinel is going to join us.
11:52Arande Gadsden is going to join us.
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12:04Tom Pellicero tweeted out that the Dolphins have signed guard Cole Strange.
12:08He was on Cleveland's practice squad.
12:10Dolphins take him off their practice squad.
12:12They sign him.
12:13He was a former Patriots first-round pick.
12:15And he could be playing, as Pellicero points out, against New England on Sunday after being signed today.
12:23All right.
12:24We need backups.
12:28We're starters.
12:29We might need starters.
12:31I'm not speaking of backups.
12:33Never mind.
12:33Not backups.
12:34We need backup.
12:35We need more people on our roster.
12:38We need reinforcement.
12:39That's a better way to put it.
12:41Hey, we never discussed what happened at the Marlins game over the weekend.
12:45With the Phillies, Karen.
12:46And we can get into it later on.
12:48But that was pretty interesting over the weekend.
12:52Los Madelins are back at it today.
12:55They will play the Washington Nationals, gentlemen.
12:58And yeah, Monday Night Football, the Bears had a lead.
13:02And then J.J. McCarthy leads the comeback.
13:06And they steal one on the road.
13:08Week one, Brian Flores' defense coming up big in the second half.
13:12And our old friend, the nicest salad in the NFL, Andrew Van Ginkle, making play after play,
13:21just looking like a menace.
13:25The nicest what?
13:27Salad.
13:30That's not what you call hair.
13:32Lettuce.
13:33Did I taste the salad?
13:43You got a nice salad on.
13:46Ooh.
13:47Calm.
13:48Calm.
13:50What am I missing there?
13:54I thought it was going to be some guy named Caesar.
13:58That's what I thought because he's like, and of course, the guy with the nicest salad.
14:03And I thought it was going to be, you know, like, I don't know, somebody sees her.
14:06And then he's, who'd you say, by the way?
14:09Van Ginkle.
14:10Van Ginkle.
14:11Oh.
14:12For some reason, I thought you said Andrew Whitworth.
14:14I'm like, he doesn't even have a salad.
14:16He got a nice salad.
14:19When you said the nicest what?
14:22Sweat just poured right into my body.
14:25I'm like, wait, what did I say, man?
14:26Damn.
14:29What is that?
14:32Can you imagine Solana walking into the bar?
14:34Hey, give me a little touch up on the salad.
14:38He's like, get out.
14:40You're out.
14:43I'm doing anything to your salad.
14:45I actually thought I was too old to get the reference.
14:49I was like, oh.
14:50That's why I said the what?
14:51Because I'm doing the quick thing on the Rolodex.
14:54And I'm like, is this some sort of new Riz?
14:56What am I missing here?
14:58The nicest salad.
15:01Amazing.
15:02You figured it out, though, Krause.
15:03You're like, salad is not.
15:05Boy, Solana, you are a gift that keeps on giving.
15:13That was funny, man.
15:15The nicest salad.
15:16It sounds creepy, right?
15:30If you tell another guy, I really like your salad.
15:34It sounds creepy as hell.
15:36Okay.
15:37My mind went there, too.
15:38I was like, huh?
15:39Right?
15:40Yeah.
15:40Yeah.
15:41You guys don't know my relationship with Andrew Van Ginkle?
15:43I don't think we want to know.
15:48You were traveling with the team back then.
15:50Okay.
15:51Makes sense.
15:51That is true.
15:53Long nights.
15:54Long flights.
15:56A lot of salad.
16:02Solana's talking about a wedge.
16:04He's not talking about a kick return.
16:05Who's in this bathroom still?
16:17Occupied.
16:23Why do you think I took two weeks off when he signed in Minnesota?
16:28I had to go enjoy the new city.
16:32Unbelievable.
16:32Unbelievable.
16:32The guy with the nicest salad.
16:52Oh, my goodness gracious.
16:54I don't know why it sounds so creepy.
16:57Because it is.
16:58Because it is very creepy.
17:00I was at home thinking about which football player has the nicest salad.
17:20I'm afraid we're going to be replaying that, aren't we?
17:24Hey, man.
17:25We play Google Home Alexa, fire up salad right after that.
17:29You could have just said Van Ginkle was balling last night.
17:37I know.
17:38But you always got to get cutesy.
17:41Right?
17:41He's Caleb Williams.
17:43He's in the pocket.
17:45There's no rush.
17:46Why are you leaving the pocket?
17:47I have an easy throw here to Van Ginkle played last night.
17:51And I'm going to say guy with the nicest salad.
17:55Salad.
17:55Sack.
17:58I'm fencing.
18:03What makes it worse is I just have AVG balled on my notes.
18:07And I didn't read it.
18:08I did something.
18:09I don't know what I did.
18:10I don't know.
18:11That's amazing, though.
18:16That Crowder got it that quickly.
18:20What did you do?
18:22Because my face.
18:23You actually, you spoke for my face because I'm looking around.
18:27I'm like, nice salad.
18:31What are we speaking of here?
18:32All right, guys.
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18:50Right now in South Florida, partly cloudy.
18:54Tonight, the lows are going to drop into the mid-70s.
18:58My power went out, man.
18:59The rain, the lightning, the thunder.
19:02It's tough.
19:03It's tough.
19:04You don't want to leave your salad bowl out there.
19:06Things can go wrong.
19:08It's your weather.
19:10Your salad equipment inside.
19:14Goodness gracious, Solana.
19:16Wow.
19:17That was something.
19:19Chris Perkins from the Sun Sentinel.
19:22One of South Florida's finest salads.
19:25Newspaper.
19:26Listen, I'm not comfortable with this now.
19:28Like Smurfs.
19:29It's like Smurfs.
19:29Smurf would just, they would put Smurf in for any word.
19:33We'll just put salad in for any word.
19:36Let's do that to Park.
19:37See if he notices.
19:39I'm down.
19:42I'm down.
19:47When Storm Duck went down, did you think that they'd have a replacement salad?
19:52Or did you think it was going to be lights out for the second time?
19:57Or.
19:58I'm not wasting this thought.
20:00We could just pretend like that never happened.
20:02Everybody.
20:02As a show.
20:03Everybody.
20:04We could just pretend like that never happened.
20:08I'm covering my entire paper.
20:09We'll find somewhere in the middle.
20:11How about we find somewhere in the middle?
20:13Van Ginkle salad is half of my notes.
20:15I mean, if Tucker Dukes doesn't add a Van Ginkle salad in October.
20:24You know what goes good with your Hockman burger?
20:27A Van Ginkle salad.
20:32Nicest salad in the league.
20:34Your internet held perfectly through that entire salad bit, huh, Hock?
20:37How convenient, you jackass.
20:39I want you to clip that and just tweet it out from your own account.
20:51Anyone agree?
20:52But just the part where you say the guy with the nicest salad, Andrew Van Ginkle.
20:57End it there.
21:01This is weird.
21:02Send that to Odyssey National as, you know, Hockman, Crowder, and Solana break down Monday
21:10night football.
21:13Bears, Vikings.
21:15Take our billboard down.
21:17Put my name on it.
21:20Put my name on that one.
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