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Tua’s biggest supporter on the show is finally showing some frustration with his play. What do the Fins do with Tua if they ultimately let McDaniel and Greir go this season?
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00:00A couple notes here from Twitter.
00:02Barry Jackson from the Miami Herald tweeted out,
00:05Dolphins fall to 6-10 in the last 16 games of the McDaniel-Tua era
00:12when Tua is healthy.
00:15There's been a regression on Tua's part, on McDaniel's part,
00:21and their ability to make magic together.
00:24Because 6-10 in their last 16 games,
00:28and these are only games that Tua has been healthy for,
00:306-10 is not a good record.
00:34If you look at the stat line from yesterday, Tua doesn't look bad.
00:39Somebody living in Omaha, it doesn't look bad.
00:42We saw Julian Hill wide open when he threw the interception.
00:45We saw him underthrow Tyreek,
00:47which on a stat page is going to look like a 47-yard completion.
00:51It should have been seven points.
00:53It was three points.
00:54You're playing a different game in the fourth quarter
00:56because we were in field goal range when that last drive happened,
00:59that two-minute debacle, but we're still in field goal range.
01:02Tua overthrew Tyreek.
01:04Tua is making a regression.
01:06He's not looking like the confident Tua.
01:09I got to go back last week, what Xavier Howard said,
01:12because it looked very much like what he said.
01:14If that first read's not there, there's a panic on this offense,
01:18and I don't know why it's happening year four still.
01:21But I do think it's fair to point out the difference between,
01:25and Hawk, you did in the first segment,
01:27the difference between week one and yesterday was night and day.
01:30I'm not excuse-making here for Tua.
01:34We all know how I feel about Tua.
01:36And Barry Jackson, Hawk, put out an article about Tua specifically
01:40in late-game situations, down seven points,
01:45needing a touchdown with under five minutes to go.
01:48He has a 78.1 passer rating, which he writes,
01:53hardly the stuff legends are made of.
01:55But yesterday, the offense finally caught some rhythm,
01:58and it just looked different, right?
02:00From the second to third, even early fourth quarter,
02:03it looked different.
02:04There was plays actually being made.
02:07It's hard because the other side of the football
02:10is just nonexistent right now with the defense as well.
02:13Neither side is playing well.
02:15Well, and when you really need the offense to look like they've gelled
02:19is at the end when you have to go downfield to either tie, win a game.
02:25And that's when the wheels come off again.
02:27And he makes the ridiculous interception where he said after the game,
02:31he's just fourth down trying to make something happen.
02:34One of the things that annoys me,
02:36because I always think it's going to be different,
02:38he has zero ability to extend a play.
02:44And it is so maddening watching other quarterbacks.
02:49He goes down so quickly.
02:51It's probably through design.
02:53It's been beaten into his head.
02:56You have to go down the minute you feel any pressure.
03:00You cannot try to extend a play.
03:02Like, I mean, this is by design.
03:04He's got the ability, Hawk.
03:05He has the ability.
03:06We saw it.
03:07We've seen it.
03:08He has the ability.
03:09Tua won't leave the pocket.
03:11They will not let him.
03:14And so even on, was it last night I was watching?
03:18It was a fourth and ten.
03:19I don't know.
03:20But like.
03:21Dak Prescott won the game.
03:23Dak is no.
03:24He's no Michael Vick.
03:26Dak Prescott.
03:27He's not putting up monster rushing numbers.
03:30Dude made a massive run up the middle when they needed it to be done.
03:38Tua is incapable of doing it because they won't allow him to do it.
03:43And it is such a.
03:45It's such a drive killer at the end when you need some magic to be made by a quarterback.
03:54We don't have that.
03:56And that's frustrating to me.
03:59I mean, it just.
04:00He goes down at the moment someone puts a mitt on him.
04:05He is down.
04:07They would.
04:08I was.
04:08I don't know.
04:09Because I was at the.
04:10What was the four o'clock game?
04:11The good with the Buffalo.
04:13Jets.
04:13Who played it for?
04:14OK, see.
04:15It was the case in the Eagles game.
04:17Casey Eagle.
04:18So they're talking during.
04:19And they were like, this is what this is the new NFL quarterback.
04:22The Jalen Hurts and the Josh where they can make every throw.
04:26But they're going to use their legs.
04:28You call Lamar Jackson.
04:30Let's just look at the top 10 damn MVP candidates are going to be quarterbacks.
04:36We do not have.
04:37To y'all's point, we might have a mobile quarterback, but there's no design of him to move around.
04:42They don't even move the pocket and play calling.
04:44That long, that long stretch and then the linemen run in front of them and they start patting the ball, looking across the field.
04:51Like they don't even move the pocket for two.
04:53They used to move the pocket for Chad Pennington.
04:57And Chad Pennington runs like my auntie.
05:00My auntie's 73.
05:02But they would move the pocket.
05:03So now the pass rush is affected because now everybody's running at an angle.
05:07So it's a, it's, listen, it's a, what, how did Kyle Long say?
05:14Or organization?
05:16Like it's something going on there.
05:18What's funny is remember last year too was like, I don't worry about who's playing on the offensive line.
05:23I get the ball out fast anyways, Brad.
05:25And it's, it's funny.
05:27He says that because he wasn't wrong by the way, last year or the season prior, I'm sorry.
05:33You know, he got the ball out faster than anybody and it was working.
05:36Well, guess what?
05:37Now Xavier Howard's like, oh, we know what two is doing.
05:40The whole league has caught on.
05:41It's not just Xavier Howard.
05:44He needs a couple extra seconds now because he wants to get the ball to Tyreek Hill over the top and he can't.
05:48So he needs that extra half second to a full second, but you don't have the guys to create the extra half second or full second for him anymore.
05:56So by the way, you're talking about the short pass to Tyreek, the pass that he underthrew.
06:03You keep saying it should have been seven instead of three.
06:05It really should have been a interception instead of, instead of saying it should have been seven.
06:11Like Tyreek helped him out by coming back and getting it.
06:14That defensive back didn't do himself any favors by not turning around.
06:18Like that easily could have been an, and, and listen, I'm all for throwing 50, 50 balls deep and let Tyreek go get it.
06:25So I'm not suggesting don't do that.
06:28I'm just saying that very easily could have been a, uh, an interception.
06:32The overthrow to the overthrow later in the game on Tyreek where Tyreek just runs like that little wheel route and two overthrows them.
06:39Uh, they point out on the broadcast, got very lucky.
06:41The DB slip behind Tyreek.
06:43Yes.
06:43If not, it would have been right in his hands.
06:45Probably.
06:46And, and the first, how about the first possession of the game?
06:48He threw an interception.
06:50We got lucky.
06:50There was offsetting penalties.
06:52Yeah.
06:52He literally threw the ball at the middle linebacker.
06:55It was insane.
06:58Across the middle.
06:59Bro, I'm telling you that Xavier and Howard quote is starting to look very, you know,
07:06how the Patriots used to pick up everybody the Dolphins cut just to talk with them pretty much.
07:10And then wouldn't let them play and cut them.
07:13Xavier and Howard is telling the league.
07:16I played with Tua for years.
07:18I know what he is.
07:20And he, but I'm sure the other defense coordinators see it.
07:24Solana, but like Crowder, Crowder, go look at last year.
07:26We couldn't.
07:27Oh, all of a sudden, everybody's like, oh, the Dolphins, you know, too high safety.
07:31Teams are playing too high safety before.
07:33This isn't new in the NFL.
07:35Like teams know this.
07:36Xavier and Howard just said the quiet part out loud.
07:39But I mean, Hawk just read you the numbers to a McDaniel together starting, finishing games.
07:45Like teams know this already.
07:47It hasn't been the same.
07:48Figured it out.
07:48Yeah.
07:49It ain't good.
07:50One other thing for 15 minutes of game day uncensored.
07:53By the way, game day uncensored this week will start at 4 p.m.
07:56on Thursday, Tobin, Solana, Omar Kelly, starting at 4 p.m.
08:03this Thursday, game day uncensored.
08:05They will bring you up to kickoff Thursday night in Buffalo.
08:09Oh, you guys are doing four to six with us, right?
08:12You guys are staying on the air.
08:13We'll be at Tucker Duke's.
08:14We're all going for Hockman burgers at four o'clock at Tucker Duke's.
08:18What the hell?
08:21What the hell?
08:21What the hell?
08:22Why don't y'all just go from two to seven?
08:26Yeah, you know what?
08:28Now that he says that.
08:30Yeah.
08:31Actually, I think we should go for Hockman burgers Thursday before the show, maybe for lunch on Thursday.
08:36I got to see if OG is.
08:38I better text OG today.
08:40Monday.
08:41He has to have three days notice.
08:43Oh, big bad Rondé Ganster.
08:45What's he ever done?
08:48And if we go to Tucker Duke's, I got to be home by two?
08:52Yeah.
08:54You got to go to Tucker Duke's at 8 a.m.
08:56I can't eat a burger at 8 a.m.
08:58We get there at noon.
09:00We eat a couple of Hockman burgers.
09:03I'll be home by two.
09:05I'm going to be sleepy by four, but I can give you two hours on Thursday.
09:10And then I nap at four.
09:12I wake up for the game.
09:14What time's the game?
09:148.15?
09:16Yeah.
09:17What channel do I need for Thursday?
09:20Good luck.
09:20Oh, goodness.
09:23What is it?
09:24No, Amazon Prime.
09:25Thursday night's Amazon Prime.
09:26There will be a local affiliate, though, because the local games always have a local affiliate.
09:31Bro, last Thursday, get to my parents' house.
09:34It's like 9.15.
09:34I had to pick something up.
09:35My dad is watching Buffalo Baltimore from the previous Thursday night.
09:44Last Thursday.
09:45Or on Monday.
09:48This was Monday.
09:49Whatever.
09:49He was watching Buffalo from the previous Thursday night.
09:55And I'm like, no, man.
09:56You're watching the wrong game, bro.
09:58This is old.
09:59He's happy.
10:00Let him watch the game.
10:02He's happy.
10:02He's having the time of his life.
10:03It's a lot of gamble with him.
10:05That's what I would do.
10:08Take him to the cleaner.
10:12One other note for Game Day Uncensored.
10:1515 minutes of Game Day Uncensored.
10:16Joe Shad tweets out, there are nine NFL teams that started 0-2 last year, but three did make
10:26the playoffs.
10:27The Ravens, the Broncos, and the Rams.
10:31So, Dolphins can do it.
10:32They can get this thing turned around.
10:35I've seen it happen before.
10:37Last year with the Ravens, Broncos, and Rams.
10:43Don't gamble on it.
10:46I wonder what Joe Shad has in the holster for teams who have started 0-3.
10:51I think we're going to be facing that stat.
10:54Very soon.
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11:05It's too early for this, and I'm not trying to be negative here about Tua, but it did sound
11:12just a few minutes ago, Hawk and Crowder.
11:15You might be seeing a bit of the light when it comes to the limitations that the Dolphins
11:21starting quarterback has.
11:22Now, I'm not saying that Tua is a scrub or whatever, but that's been one of my frustrations.
11:26And what do you do if McDaniel ends up being canned at some point this season and Greer
11:32ends up losing his job at the end of the season?
11:34A lot of people feel like that's going to happen.
11:36What do you do with Tua?
11:37And I'm just being honest.
11:38Like, I don't know.
11:39It's a tough spot.
11:40The Dolphins are in.
11:41You're giving a lot of money to them.
11:43There's, you'd have a lot of dead cap space.
11:46There's, there's a lot of machinations and it just depends on the willingness of an owner
11:53to eat a bunch of money.
11:55And Steven Ross has shown no, uh, no inability to do that in the past, but also whoever the
12:02new general manager would be, how much, and a new head coach, how much they want to have
12:07tied up in dead cap space and do other coaches or general managers look at Tua and say, yeah,
12:14there's a reason he's regressed and it starts with Mike McDaniel and we can correct that.
12:19I would say to Hawk's point, I was just going to say that you have to see what the other
12:24team's evaluations are of Tua because we've seen the regression, but where does it come
12:28from?
12:29Does it come from the offense, the play calling, or does it come from Tua's ability?
12:33It's easy today to say he underthrew Tyreek Hill.
12:36He can't throw that far.
12:37I think Tua can throw further than he threw that ball to Tyreek.
12:40Or protection.
12:41Yeah.
12:42Give him protection.
12:42I think he can step into a 60.
12:44And that's exactly where he needed to throw that ball to Tyreek.
12:47But if they do move on, Tyreek Hill has to go.
12:53Just the older stars.
12:54And I don't wish for anybody to be fired.
12:58Tyreek Hill gets something back for him.
12:59You can get something back for him.
13:01Big contract.
13:02You can get something back for Bradley Chubb.
13:04You have Jalen Phillips.
13:05He's a young guy.
13:06He's going to want some money here in a year or so.
13:08If he stays healthy, you drafted Chop Robinson first round.
13:11So, you have young pass rushers.
13:13Bradley Chubb can get you something back.
13:15Like, you have to start piling up assets.
13:17If they get rid of Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer, they have to start compiling assets to rebuild, restructure, remove, whatever the reword is.
13:28That's how I feel.
13:28And to trade up to get Arch Manning.
13:32Man, I don't know about that one.
13:36Let's go too far.
13:38Let's go get Shadur.
13:39You see that report from Schefter?
13:41Shadur Sanders told the Ravens not.
13:43The Ravens were going to draft him.
13:45And he said, do not.
13:47Because I don't want to play behind Lamar Jackson.
13:51Yeah.
13:52Which is laughable.
13:53Which is true, though.
13:56Yeah, but he was going to play – at that point, he was going to play behind anyone.
14:00So, why wouldn't you want to play behind someone who's great?
14:03I'd rather play – because I want to get on the field, Hawk.
14:06I want to play behind 49-year-old someone who's great.
14:11No, he wants to get on the field.
14:13Flacco and Dylan Gabriel, he can beat out.
14:15He'll never beat out Lamar Jackson.
14:18I guess.
14:19I'd take him down here.
14:21I don't get that either, man.
14:22Like, I get to go to an organization where there's structure, stability, success.
14:28Like, I'd rather go to the place that signed Deshaun Watson?
14:33He wants to play.
14:35Then go to the CFL if you want to play that bad.
14:42He is going to start a game here in the next month, month and a half for the Browns.
14:47He would never start a game in Baltimore.
14:49I don't know about that, man.
14:51Yeah.
14:53They like –
14:54Flacco.
14:54Dylan Gabriel went in yesterday, threw a touchdown.
14:58I mean, if there's injuries, maybe.
15:00Why can't you do this?
15:01J.J. McCarthy had a good eight-minute window, and now he was the – oh, my goodness.
15:06No, he's terrible.
15:09How many times, though, do you see a team go to their third stringer,
15:13and it's not due to injuries, and one of the players you're ostensibly benching him for
15:21is someone who was drafted two runs higher than him?
15:24Like, I don't think he starts a game unless there's significant injuries.
15:28I just don't see it.
15:29Oh, no.
15:29Hunk, Joe Flacco's, oh, he's going to get gout, and then Dylan Gabriel's going to play
15:33about three, four games and be bad, and then Shadour's going to get in.
15:37But you would – in other words, you would give up on Dylan Gabriel after three or four
15:42games to play another quarterback that you drafted behind him?
15:46Yeah, the story came out that the owner didn't want Shadour.
15:51The coach, Stefanski, and them wanted Shadour.
15:53The GM wanted Shadour.
15:55So if Dylan Gabriel goes one and three, the coach and the GM push to get Shadour Sanders.
16:03They put him in to prove that they're right.
16:05It's the same argument I have for little OG making the Chargers.
16:09If that GM and head coach wanted that player, they're going to advocate for that player
16:14because it makes them look good.
16:16Would there ever be a funnier injury designation than gout?
16:24I'd pray for that Schefter tweet.
16:26Joe Flacco, out this Sunday.
16:29Well, someone had – which one am I thinking of?
16:32There was one that was very funny over the last couple of years.
16:36Or was it NBA?
16:40You know, this purrs, what's the – he used to do some funny ones.
16:44Yeah, Popovich would do some funny designations.
16:49Yeah, I got to look at the –
16:50I've never seen gout, but it's a good thing.
16:53I've got headlines here, so we have enough time with John Michaels.
16:57All right, guys.
16:58Speaking of injuries to quarterbacks, Joe Burrow is going to need toe surgery,
17:04and it's going to sideline him a minimum of three months now.
17:08Terrible.
17:10Browning came in yesterday.
17:12I don't know.
17:13Like, is his burrow really that good?
17:15Because every time Browning comes in, they end up winning the game anyway.
17:18Did you watch much of that game, though?
17:19Because he threw some picks that were brutal.
17:23I don't know how they won that game.
17:25But he threw some picks that were brutal.
17:30The thing I saw was that –
17:33Now, Tyreek Hill is supposed to be one –
17:34like a top Hall of Fame, top five receiver, right?
17:38Even with Jake Browning in the game, Jamar Chase had 14 receptions.
17:43Well, it's funny.
17:44Lori said to me yesterday –
17:46it was before Jalen Waddle caught the touchdown –
17:49but she's like, does Waddle play anymore on this team?
17:51And I said, yeah, he's out there.
17:54And she said, how come he doesn't catch a lot of balls
17:57and I guess they double-team him?
17:59And I'm like, well, all the good receivers get double-teamed
18:03or, you know, deed hard.
18:07Like, somehow, quarterbacks find a way or offensive coordinators
18:13find a way to get the ball in the hands of receivers.
18:16You did see it yesterday, by the way, though.
18:19So, to be complimentary of the team, he threw, I think,
18:24to five different players on one drive.
18:29And Tyreek had over 100 yards receiving,
18:32which has been kind of an earmark for their success.
18:36I think we have a stat that, you know,
18:37when he catches for 100 yards or more, they're, you know, whatever.
18:42It's a very good record.
18:4311-0 when he's 99 yards or more receiving.
18:47And I think now they drop to 7-18.
18:51I have to double-check that.
18:52But it's significantly below 500 when he doesn't catch 99 yards.
18:56But he caught for over 100 yards yesterday.
18:59Like, they did everything that they kind of needed to do.
19:03But there were a couple of just events.
19:06You know, the kickoff return after the punt return was, I mean,
19:10a gut punch like only Dolphins fans know how to receive.
19:14And it was just, there was just myriad times where you're like,
19:18wow, they're actually going to win this game.
19:19And then somehow they couldn't.
19:22I mean, this Mike Vrabel tried to hand the Dolphins every opportunity
19:27to win that game at the end.
19:29That pass on second down, I understand what they were trying to do.
19:34When they were trying to run out the clock or wanted to run out the clock,
19:37that pass on second down, I think it was Andrew Catalan and Jason McCourty.
19:45Oh, J.J. McCarthy, Jimmy says,
19:47sidelined for two to four weeks with a high ankle sprain.
19:50Carson Wentz now in line to start the Vikings.
19:54He's not the only one, but there's a ton of injuries.
19:58J.J. McCarthy, Jaden Daniels is, it might miss some time as well.
20:02He's dealing with a knee injury.
20:04Justin Fields is in concussion protocol.
20:06Brock Purdy didn't play this past week is likely out for a couple more weeks as well.
20:12Burrow with toe surgery, like quarterbacks are going down, man.
20:15Ours is, is Dan, baby.
20:17Look who's durable.
20:19I had this conversation to go back just to receive a conversation
20:23because Chan was asking me because he watched the game last night.
20:26He was like, Justin Jefferson can get open whenever he wants to.
20:30Cause they double team him, but he's just going to press the corner up.
20:32The safety's high.
20:33He's going to run those comebacks to the sideline.
20:35He's going to run the end routes, like double teaming a good receiver.
20:38You could scheme it up.
20:40Jamar Chase, 14 catches.
20:42That's just stupid.
20:43Like I played against Moss, Andre Johnson.
20:45I don't care how many people you put on a guy.
20:48You could scheme him to get open.
20:49If you know the coverage, Tyreek is that good.
20:53Cause he's that fast.
20:54Like use him, shoot him inside on the safety safety jumped around.
20:58And then he goes behind the corner.
20:59That's what happened when he was wide the hell open.
21:01He was double teams when he was wide the hell open into a under through him.
21:06That's what goes on.
21:07You can, but he got his catches and he got his yards.
21:09How many receptions did he have?
21:10He got targeted.
21:11He got yards.
21:12He got receptions.
21:13And we're getting back to that.
21:14But for him to have those, that lull of games, where it was whatever, since last season of
21:19him, not getting a hundred yard.
21:21Justin Jefferson is setting records.
21:23Jamar Chase is setting records.
21:25Tyreek can play with them.
21:27Why isn't he setting records?
21:28And it goes back to the, to the Mike McDaniel conversation.
21:31And Hawk, I got to run back because when, when your wife asked you, why is Waddle not getting
21:37the ball?
21:38Don't tell her he got D hard.
21:40That's not really.
21:41I'm trying to get her in the mood.
21:43How'd that work?
21:45Things weren't going well for the Dolphins.
21:46I thought maybe they could go well for her old uncle Marky here.
21:51Didn't work well.
21:52No.
21:52I hope you had the under.
21:54You put on a McDaniel performance.
21:56My press conference afterwards, I said, yeah, we're having a difficult time with getting
22:08the personnel in and out.
22:16What happened to Jalen?
22:19We need to report this to the NFL.
22:21Well, six for, uh, for a buck oh nine, by the way, for, uh, six receptions, six receptions,
22:37but for a buck oh nine, you can do that and try to get us to bite.
22:44What do you mean?
22:46Wasn't it half field?
22:48He texted us half field yesterday.
22:51It's that's not a football field.
22:56It's not a football.
22:57It's not a football for you.
22:59Half field?
23:00Half says the world.
23:02Everyone.
23:02It's not a football term.
23:03It's Lombardi wouldn't say half field.
23:06Those two words are synonymous with one another.
23:09Half and mid.
23:12It's not.
23:13The middle and the half.
23:15The middle and the half.
23:17What's the difference?
23:17Half field, midfield.
23:18Same thing.
23:19Same difference.
23:19But if I say I want half lemonade, half iced tea, uh, and Arnold Palmer, if I say I want
23:28half lemonade, half iced tea, I couldn't say to the server, oh, give me mid lemonade, mid
23:34iced tea.
23:35No, but you could, but you could say pour in a glass, pour lemonade up to the middle.
23:40And then pour, and then pour iced tea.
23:46All right.
23:46If anything else.
23:51Monday night football, double team tonight.
23:54Your weather.
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23:55Food.
23:56Instead of saying I want to grill cheese.
23:58I'd like you to take two pieces of bread, put a couple slices of cheese in between them.
24:05Excuse me, sir.
24:05What are you?
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