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00:00Jake Moody, Dibs says, hey, preseason, whatever.
00:04I say, what are we doing?
00:07This guy kicks ball.
00:08It don't go straight.
00:09Too often for me, I don't think you need any more clues.
00:13This isn't just the preseason.
00:14It's kind of been the whole time.
00:16He was fine year one, not great.
00:20Year two, a mess.
00:23And yes, injury may have had something to do with that.
00:26And here we're starting out year three.
00:27He got outkicked by Greg Joseph in camp.
00:31And he has had two games, well, three games.
00:34But in the first one, he only had one extra point attempt.
00:36It went in.
00:37I don't think he got outkicked in camp.
00:39Like, neither one of them missed.
00:41No, that's, they both missed.
00:43Greg missed less.
00:45The percentages, and again, those are camp.
00:46Outkicked in camp, like in practice.
00:49Yes.
00:49Without people rushing, and you're just kicking balls in Santa Clara.
00:53People are rushing.
00:54Like, they're doing that in an actual mimic mock event.
00:57Like, they've got a line.
00:59Again, for me, this is because it's the kicker.
01:02Kick ball straight.
01:03How often do you do it?
01:05Other than that, there's really not a whole lot going on here.
01:08I know every now and again, a few times a year, you get a weird situation.
01:12You know, how does he handle somebody breaking through the line or whatever.
01:16You know, maybe Moody's got a little bit longer of a leg.
01:19Maybe.
01:19I don't even know.
01:20But to me, it is so A to B.
01:24Line up, kick ball straight.
01:26How often do you do it?
01:27He doesn't do it often enough, for my taste.
01:30Let's go to Matt in San Jose.
01:32Hi, Matt.
01:32Thanks for calling.
01:35Thanks for having me, guys.
01:36I listen every day.
01:37It's always good to hear you guys and talk to you guys.
01:40My man.
01:41What's on your mind?
01:44So, look, man.
01:45With respect to, like, how poorly timed all Moody's misses have been, do you – and I'll
01:49ask you this, Mark.
01:51Do you think that your expectations of Moody and perhaps your feelings of him now are because
01:56of the Niners' championship window?
01:58Because they didn't have time to waste to get Trey Lance ready.
02:01That's why they traded him.
02:02Like, we got a ready-now roster.
02:04And if that kind of roster, you need a ready-now quarterback and you need a ready-now kicker.
02:08Do you think that plays a role in that?
02:10I mean, I don't even look at it, Matt, in terms of Super Bowl window.
02:14I just – I look at it in terms of it is a professional sports team's responsibility
02:20to be as good as they can be every year and try to win every game.
02:26And if you're telling me that Jake Moody is the best you can do at the kicker position
02:31right now, that is the most reliable option on the planet.
02:36I don't buy it.
02:36But that's the only thing I'm thinking about.
02:40There's the Greg Joseph numbers.
02:42Like, does the difference in Greg's numbers in camp and Jake Moody's numbers in camp really
02:47move you?
02:47Because if they're looking at it from the lens of numbers, they may not see the grandest
02:52difference as much as they just see, golly, this guy misses kicks at the worst times.
02:56Well, isn't that a characteristic, though, Matt?
02:59Like, and that's what worries me.
03:01No, I'm not – I don't even care if it's Greg Joseph.
03:03It can be somebody else, but we're watching somebody that, A, he kicks it crooked too often.
03:10And thanks, Matt.
03:10It's always good to hear from you.
03:12For me, dibs, he kicks it crooked too often.
03:15And yes, I do think that we've also seen – we've seen him get worse as the moment gets bigger.
03:22And that's a terrible characteristic for a kicker.
03:24I don't know if you can use the sample of, what, this preseason now?
03:29Is that what we're looking at?
03:29No, we're looking at I missed an extra point in the Super Bowl.
03:32We're looking at –
03:33Right, you also made three field goals in the Super Bowl.
03:35Okay, great.
03:35But you missed an extra point in the Super Bowl.
03:38You had the kick against the Rams, which was going to be a game closer.
03:42You missed it.
03:43There was the kick two years ago against Cleveland, which was a game –
03:46Your argument, though, is he's getting worse at that.
03:48And you're going back two years to his rookie year.
03:50I'm talking about the whole time.
03:52Right.
03:52All years of Jake Moody.
03:53You said that he's getting worse at that.
03:56No, I'm saying he gets worse when the moment gets higher.
03:59I've always felt that way.
04:00Not getting.
04:01He gets worse as the moment gets bigger.
04:04That's my assessment of what we've seen from him.
04:07I don't think it's the Niners' assessment.
04:09And if they reach that conclusion and if they see it in the regular season,
04:13they're going to make a move.
04:14They're not going to give Jake Moody additional chances to try to disprove that notion.
04:20If he goes out and he misses big kicks in big spots and it costs him games,
04:25or if he kicks the ball out of bounds, or if he misses extra points in the regular season,
04:29they're going to make a move.
04:31They're going to have done these things.
04:32Yeah, but kickers miss.
04:33Of course they do.
04:34Find me the kicker who doesn't miss.
04:35Of course they do.
04:35You're setting an unfair bar for a guy that you particularly don't care for.
04:40I don't have any relationship with Jake Moody whatsoever,
04:44and I'm not setting an unfair bar.
04:45You can simply look at the percentages of Jake versus others around the league.
04:50This is so mathematically A to B to me.
04:53Well, two years ago he was right about league average, 84%.
04:57He was 21 for 25.
04:59He missed four kicks, and he missed one extra point the entire year.
05:02Yeah.
05:03Last year, before the ankle injury, he had only missed one field goal.
05:08And then he got hurt.
05:09He missed three games.
05:10He came back, and he was patently awful after that.
05:13And what field goal was that that he missed?
05:15I'd argue it was the biggest one.
05:17That was the one against the Rams.
05:19The Rams.
05:20Yes.
05:20He would have closed out the game.
05:22Right.
05:22Remember that whole parlay?
05:23Ronnie Bell, special teams, DBs, Jake Moody, make a kick.
05:27Like, again, just I don't know what else anybody needs to see.
05:34These are extra points.
05:36These should not be missed all year.
05:40Guys miss extra points.
05:41I'll give you a list of ten kickers who won't.
05:44They will go undefeated this year for extra points.
05:48Undefeated.
05:49It will happen for multiple teams this year.
05:52And so, yeah, like I've just, that's all.
05:56I'm just there.
05:57I don't have anything against the guy.
05:58He just doesn't kick the ball straight enough.
06:02It's kind of been the case the whole time.
06:05Drew and Sunnyvale next up on Willard and Dibs.
06:08Hey, Drew, what's up?
06:08Hey, guys.
06:11Thanks for taking my call.
06:12Yeah, I mean, I'm totally on Mark's side here.
06:17It's not only that he missed the extra point, but the kick out of bounds on the kickoff, that's kind of inexcusable.
06:26Like, what are you trying to do there?
06:28And it's not the first time Jake Moody has kicked the ball out of bounds.
06:31He's just inconsistent.
06:33And, you know, I always harken back to, you know, Robbie Gold.
06:36And I know Robbie Gold, he's one of the best kickers of all time, right?
06:39But he never really had, like, a huge leg, so to speak, right?
06:44But he was consistent.
06:45You knew that if he got it between 40 to 49 yards, he would make it, right?
06:50And I just, I don't feel that way about Jake Moody regarding any kick.
06:54It could be 31.
06:55It could be 59 yards, right?
06:56He hit the 59-yarder against Las Vegas.
06:58But that just goes to show how inconsistent he is.
07:01And as a kicker, you just, you cannot be inconsistent.
07:04And so, I mean, that's, I mean, last preseason game just left a bad taste in my mouth.
07:10I don't scour free agents for kickers.
07:14I don't follow that.
07:15I think Greg Joseph is the only person that we know since he already came in and was competing for the job.
07:20But, I mean, I think the team is leaning towards Jake Moody starting the year.
07:25But, I mean, I have a question for dibs.
07:28Like, do you wait for Jake Moody to lose you a game before you make a decision?
07:33I don't think that's a good process either.
07:36So, yeah.
07:37But the alternative is you go out and you replace him with somebody who may not necessarily be better.
07:44Looking at Greg Joseph's year last year, he was 16 of 20 on field goals, 80% better than Jake Moody.
07:51But it's not like you're going out and replacing Jake Moody with a phenomenal kicker.
07:55Any kicker who is out there and available is probably not going to be much better than Jake Moody if Jake Moody is just average Jake Moody.
08:05Now, if he goes in the tank and, yeah, if he loses you a game or if he misses a couple of extra points, if he can't keep the kickoffs inbounds, yet you're still winning games, you're going to make a move.
08:15Because Kyle Shanahan does not have a lot of tolerance for bad kicking when he's out there, you know, grinding on his laminated play sheet.
08:23Yeah.
08:23Yeah, 21 kickers last year go 85% or better.
08:2721 kickers go 85% or better.
08:31Jake Moody was at 70, and we can talk about injury all we want.
08:34But that's interesting, though, because you've always told me if you're out there, you're out there.
08:40Yeah, he was out there.
08:41And so, like, I...
08:42But if you look at his numbers before the injury, he was among those who were better than 85%.
08:47And then he came back, and, you know, he probably shouldn't have kicked at all.
08:50If he was that hurt, and then you're hurt, and then you miss, and then you lose confidence, that's the part of your argument that I'm looking at and thinking it may actually have teeth.
09:00The idea that he's losing his confidence or he doesn't have confidence, forget the injury or the non-injury last year, he was just bad.
09:09And if you carry that over into this year, and I know he's changed his approach to the ball and the rest of it, you have a new special teams coordinator, new long snapper, new holder, all the rest of it, bottom line, you've got to make the kicks.
09:22All that other stuff, it doesn't matter.
09:23You're the kicker.
09:24By the way, last year, through all of his horrific injury problems, apparently, do you know how many extra points Jake Moody missed last year?
09:32One.
09:32One.
09:33And he missed one the year before.
09:34Yeah.
09:35So, like...
09:36But we're all hell-bent on highlighting a miss in a preseason game.
09:40Yeah, I mean, of course, because that's very, very rare.
09:43And he's not...
09:45I don't care what anybody says, watch him play.
09:47He's not kicking the ball well.
09:50Like, okay, he made one in Vegas from 27 yards that he wrapped around the pole.
09:54And he made one from 59 in Vegas.
09:56Yeah, good.
09:57Like, he doesn't miss them all.
09:59Right.
09:59And he had a couple on Saturday that were just perfect.
10:01Right.
10:02And then he had a couple that weren't.
10:03Like, he doesn't kick the ball straight often enough.
10:06I know he can do it.
10:08He doesn't do it often enough.
10:1070% last year, you were healthy enough to make all your extra points.
10:15Why weren't you healthy enough to make your field goal kicks?
10:18Yeah, and if you look at it, 4 of 9 from 50 and beyond.
10:226 of 11 from 40 to 49.
10:24Those are the...
10:25Like, the 40 to 49s nowadays, you should be at 85% on those.
10:30When you get over 50 yards, it shouldn't be a 50-50 kick.
10:34But it should be certainly closer to 75% of those kicks you make.
10:38And he wasn't.
10:39I mean, the Titans, the Packers, the Steelers, the Broncos, the Commanders, the Falcons.
10:44The Cowboys, I believe the, let's see, the Colts.
10:51I already mentioned the Packers, the Vikings, and the Jags, and maybe one other team.
11:00All of those teams did not miss an extra point all year.
11:03All year.
11:04Last year.
11:05So, that's all I'm saying.
11:08You've got to go get one of those guys.
11:10And you use a third-round pick on this guy.
11:13Like, no matter what happens here, you've got to at least admit, and I'm not saying they need to do this publicly,
11:19this was not well thought out.
11:22So far, it's not looking great.
11:23This was not a good way to use a third-round draft pick.
11:25Well, you can look at other third-round picks that they've made, and this one is not even close to their worst one.
11:31And you could look at Jalen Hurd, I believe a third-round pick, who never actually played professional football.
11:36And we can run all the way down the list.
11:38That's not what this exercise is for.
11:40You took a chance.
11:41You used a third-round pick.
11:42And I think it was one of the supplemental picks that they had gotten, compensatory picks.
11:48Not that that really matters.
11:49Yeah, I don't even remember.
11:49End of the third, but you used it on a kicker, which is mostly unheard of.
11:54And, you know, two years in, now you're already thinking about maybe making a move.
11:58Grandy says they actually traded up in the third round to get him.
12:01Okay.
12:01They traded up to get a kicker.
12:04If you like the player and you're afraid that maybe he won't be there, then go ahead and trade up.
12:09Yeah, but then he's got to be good, and he's not.
12:11And all these other teams found really good kickers just sitting there as undrafted free agents.
12:18It happens all the time.
12:19Wasn't Aubrey in Dallas completely undrafted?
12:22Brandon Aubrey kicks balls from 60 yards with regularity?
12:26Yes, he was.
12:26I think Dibbs was right, though.
12:28I was wrong.
12:28He was not.
12:29They did not trade up for him in the third round.
12:31All right.
12:31So, third-round pick.
12:32Give yourself a buzzer.
12:34Hit it.
12:37Anyway, that's all.
12:39Like, look, I'm going to lose the argument because they're going to keep him.
12:43So, he's going to get the opportunity to do this.
12:46Let me ask you this.
12:47How far do we go?
12:49How many misses in the regular season?
12:51Depends on the miss.
12:53Okay.
12:53It depends on the miss.
12:55If it's a miss that costs you a game, and you're down 21-19, and he's already hit four field goals in the game,
13:03but you got him at a 42-yarder, and he misses, and he goes four for five in the game, that might be enough to do it.
13:09Because like you're saying, it's the high leverage kicks.
13:11It's the pressure kicks.
13:12Those are the ones that you absolutely have to have.
13:16And, you know, you go back to 49er seasons gone by, and Robbie Gold is a name, and, you know, you had David Akers, who actually set the NFL record with the 49ers.
13:26That was, I think, the hardball team, and having a kicker you can rely on is critical, especially when you struggle in the red zone, as they did last year.
13:34I mean, I would like to point out, like, the teams that tend to scare you in the league usually have Captain Automatic.
13:45Like, look around the league, and the teams that tend to play really well, it's like, you know who those kickers are.
13:54For years, and I know the Ravens moved on from him because now he's right accused of all stuff in the legal world,
14:00but the Ravens had Justin Tucker, 55 yards and in, Automatic.
14:04The Chiefs are rocking Harrison Butker.
14:07The Bills have Bass.
14:09All those teams, and then look what happens.
14:12The Bengals think they have one, and then he shows up and has a bad year, and what happens?
14:16They miss the playoffs.
14:17Now, I'm not blaming him for the Bengals missing the playoffs.
14:21Obviously, their defense and many other problems existed.
14:25But my point is, is I tend to think that a kicker is really important to winning football games in the NFL.
14:33When you have an opportunity, sometimes it comes down to the end.
14:37And when you have an opportunity to win that game, you've got to trust that guy.
14:40You can't tell me you trust him to make a big kick.
14:43Absolutely.
14:43You do?
14:44How can you not trust him?
14:45Because he's given you no reason.
14:48Over the course of half a year.
14:49His first year was solid.
14:51It was fine.
14:52Give me the big kick he hit.
14:53Do you remember the first year?
14:54They blew everyone out.
14:56Last year on the opener, he made six field goals.
14:59Are those not big when you can't get in the end zone?
15:01They were up by 25 points.
15:03Because he was making field goal after field goal.
15:05The first kick of his life that was considered like, dude, the game's on the line.
15:10He whiffed the sucker.
15:12And the rest of that year, nothing mattered because they were up 30-10 every week and on their way to the Super Bowl.
15:19In which he made, what, three field goals in the Super Bowl?
15:21And missed an extra point, which I could argue.
15:23I could dwell on the negative, but you can look at the fact that he made three field goals as a rookie.
15:28I don't think that's growing.
15:28He made three field goals.
15:30It's Ross Dwelly.
15:31He made three field goals in the Super Bowl as a rookie.
15:33That's not nothing.
15:34Dude, you went to overtime and missed an extra point.
15:36Right.
15:37You went to overtime and missed an extra point.
15:40Who knows?
15:41You might have won that thing in regulation if he had kicked the ball through the uprights.
15:45You might have won in overtime if your coach knew the rules.
15:47Yeah, sure.
15:48Again, I'm not putting every ill of the 49ers on Jake Moody.
15:52I'm simply spotlighting Jake Moody.
15:54You're telling me that you trust him in a big kick.
15:57I think I got more than half this fan base on my side.
16:00I don't.
16:01Of course you do.
16:02I don't.
16:02Of course.
16:02Why?
16:03Like what?
16:03Why would you not have more than half the fan base on your side?
16:07Because people like to boo the kicker.
16:09You don't applaud the kicker when he does well because that's what he's supposed to do.
16:13Just give me the big kick.
16:14But when the kicker misses, we go ahead and boo him.
16:17Give it to me.
16:17I'd have to look at the game log, Mark.
16:18Because it hasn't happened.
16:19Fine.
16:20It hasn't happened.
16:21He has no.
16:21Let's bring in Greg Joseph, a guy that no other team is out there trying to clamor to bring him in.
16:27You can poo-poo it, but the bottom line is that he has now been here for two plus years
16:31and there's no clutch kick.
16:33You can't remember the one time where he sent everyone home happy.
16:37It hasn't happened.
16:38It's just two years and he did it in preseason, which you're really focused on that mattering.
16:43I thought you just told me it didn't.
16:44Oh, it doesn't.
16:45But you're saying two plus years.
16:47He hasn't even started his third year.
16:48I don't care if it's preseason or in your backyard or the Super Bowl.
16:52Kick the ball straight 90% of the time.
16:57Yeah, it's just 90% is not the barometer.
17:0085% is, and he doesn't do it.
17:04Fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, two minutes left.
17:06Made a 53-yarder to take the lead.
17:07Okay.
17:08Okay.
17:11That doesn't count because he missed an extra point.
17:13I didn't say it didn't count.
17:14No, I said that.
17:15That's a good answer, but he did.
17:16He missed an extra point.
17:17Also made a 55-yarder in that same game in the second quarter.
17:20At that time, it was a Super Bowl record.
17:21Great.
17:22Great.
17:23Again, I'm simply talking about percentages.
17:26There's too many sideways kicks.
17:28And you can listen to Kyle Shanahan in a press conference if you want, or you can look at
17:33his facial expressions on the sideline.
17:35Don't tell me the Niner Brass ain't pissed.
17:38Don't tell me they aren't.
17:39Well, let's just see how pissed they are.
17:41Well, they're not going to do anything about it because there's financial ramifications.
17:44And also, there's no one out there who's appreciably better than he is.
17:47You don't know that.
17:49Well, if there was somebody who was definitely better, they would have brought him in by now.
17:52Not necessarily.
17:53Not necessarily.
17:54There are financial ramifications.
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