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00:00So, 59 yards, Jake Moody, for the win, he got it, bang, Moody, 59 yarder, and the 49ers
00:19win, and Chase Lucas is running another victory lap down on the field, that is a great kick
00:24from Moody, and I am so glad it worked out where he could kick a career long, certainly
00:29it's in the preseason, but to smash that through the uprights, awesome.
00:34No, I don't talk to the guys, I don't talk to kickers very much, just tell them to make
00:38it.
00:39Now, back to Willard and Dibbs on 95.7 The Game.
00:43I mean, that's Guy Haberman there on the call, and I mean, you can even hear Tim Ryan as well,
00:52you can hear the way he says it.
00:56I'm just so happy that that worked out.
00:58It's an interesting way to say it, and I don't know why we're running from this on
01:03any level, I don't think we need to, it's not a criticism.
01:07Jake has struggled and has been open with the world about confidence issues, and so now,
01:15when he makes it, it's not like, we don't react the same way we do when other kickers make
01:21a big kick.
01:23There's this, like, heartstring thing that happens.
01:27Oh, I'm so glad that it worked out.
01:30In other words, if he misses either of those kicks in the final 45 seconds, how are we doing
01:35today?
01:36It's a preseason game, but it's just another, it's another pelt on the wall of Jake Moody.
01:43He's not good enough.
01:44He can't do it.
01:45We need another kicker, so I get what you're saying, and I wonder if any 49er fan is actually
01:51rooting against Jake Moody, because if you love the team and he's your kicker, well then
01:56yeah, you gotta love the kicker to a point, and that point is, as I mentioned, when he
02:01came back after injury last year and he went 11 for 20, kicking field goals, it was, get
02:06this guy off my team, and here he is still on the team, dot, dot, dot, for now, so you
02:12would love for him to go out, kick great, and keep the job, and I'm thinking about last
02:18year, the opener, he went 6 for 6 against the Jets, and it's like, alright Jake Moody,
02:24year 2 off to a swimming start.
02:26He won me a fantasy game.
02:28That week?
02:296 for 6.
02:30That's not bad, yeah.
02:31The guy who I beat was so mad, so mad.
02:34Because that's the last game of the week, Monday Night Football.
02:36The last game of the week, and I was down by an unimaginable amount when all you have
02:44left is a kicker, and then he kicked 6 field goals, and some of them were long, and I beat
02:49the guy by like a point, and it was one of those where like, somebody is, week 1, and
02:53everybody's like, we need a rule change, it's stupid that we have kickers in fantasy, this
02:58is dumb, it was one of those.
03:00So anyway, I very much appreciated that game from Jake Moody.
03:03No doubt.
03:03It helped, but yeah, the rest of the year was a total journey, and I guess that's kind
03:09of what I'm getting at.
03:10I'm not down on Jake.
03:12It is a preseason game.
03:13I don't think we've reached the final analysis on this at all, but I don't think it is a
03:19good characteristic for an NFL team or a kicker, and the discussion surrounding them, to be
03:26talking about confidence, and did he or didn't he, and was the 26-yard make a good kick or
03:35a bad kick?
03:35Like, I just don't think that's not good.
03:38Kickers, you don't want talked about.
03:40At all.
03:41Right.
03:41At all.
03:42Completely.
03:43Nor do you want your long snapper or your holder to be talked about.
03:46You want the operation to be smooth, and he went five for six, and this is a classic Willard
03:51versus Dibbs process versus results, because I look at five for six, and even though one
03:56of them was a little wonky, it was three points, and he made the big kick late, and you won
04:01the game.
04:02You won the game.
04:03Big whoop.
04:03It's a preseason game.
04:04But for me, Jake Moody has earned in me a good amount of confidence, and with kickers,
04:11though, you know the confidence is only as good as the next game.
04:15You could go 10 for your first 10, and then go out and miss a 41-yarder that's a game winner,
04:21and you lose the game, and that might be it.
04:24You know, and Kyle Shanahan famously has, like most head coaches, I would imagine, little
04:29patience for the kicker.
04:31It's a little bit like the closer, where you give your closer a three-run lead, and
04:36your closer just blows it, throws gas on it, and you lose the game.
04:40It's like, all right, that happened.
04:42It better not happen again, and then your closer goes out, and it happens again.
04:46It's like, we're going to find a new closer.
04:47I love that you just said that, because 4-1-5, a short time ago on the Boxer and Gerson
04:51work injury attorney's text line, just compared Jake Moody kicking a field goal to Camila Duvall
04:56coming in in the ninth.
04:57Which one makes you feel better or worse?
05:02And I get it.
05:03I think it's a wonderful comparison.
05:05It's a good comp.
05:05That's a good question.
05:07That's a good question.
05:08So, like, you look at those guys come in, and I have the exact same thought, which is,
05:15they totally can do it.
05:17They've got the goods.
05:19Moody can kick from 59.
05:21Duvall can throw 100 miles an hour.
05:23But what are they going to do this time?
05:27And it's inconsistent.
05:30And inconsistency for those roles, closer and kicker, are not acceptable.
05:36Completely.
05:36That is the word that you can't have.
05:39You can't do inconsistent.
05:41You're allowed to miss a field goal.
05:44It happens.
05:45It happens to everyone.
05:46And so, if you have a handful over the year, that's fine.
05:52But, so it doesn't mean you've got to be perfect.
05:55But you have to be consistent.
05:57And that is why the 26-yard make bothered me.
06:01That's why.
06:02Because that's an inconsistent kick.
06:04It went in.
06:05Yep.
06:05But it's not, that's not the leg drive that you're looking for.
06:10It's just not.
06:11But it's preseason, and we allow other players to have preseason moments of, you know, you're
06:16still trying to find your way, and you're finding your footing, and, you know, maybe
06:20it's a throw, or a route that wasn't run correctly, or all the little things.
06:24It's preseason.
06:25So, I do think that he deserves that same level of preseason grace.
06:29Do you?
06:29Yeah.
06:30You're the kicker.
06:30That's a different action than anybody else.
06:32It's a little different, yes.
06:33And I also believe that because he has changed his approach, not to get too deep into kicking,
06:38but he was a three-stepper, and now it's a two, and so that is going to take some time.
06:43And, well, he doesn't have a lot of time, because, you know, come week one, you're not
06:48going to say, well, he's still working on his two-step approach.
06:50No.
06:51But in the preseason, I'm still going to give him enough grace knowing that these games
06:55don't really matter.
06:56I don't think we, like I said, I'm with you from the perspective of I don't think we've
07:00reached the final analysis.
07:01But I can tell you this right now, if on September 7th, you're down 24-23, and he lines up from
07:0942 yards with two seconds left to go, and he hooks that thing left, I would argue that
07:14right away, one game into the season, more than half the fan base will want him gone.
07:19I would say, I don't know if it's more than half the fan base now wants him gone, but
07:23888-957-9570, do you want Moody gone?
07:27I mean...
07:28I don't, not yet.
07:29Right, but I think it does a bigger portion of the fan base that already is kind of wishing
07:34that he would have lost the competition that never actually existed.
07:37I mean, that's, yeah, that's true.
07:41Let's go to Ryan in Irvine.
07:42Ryan, thank you for calling Willard and Dibbs.
07:44What's up?
07:47Hey, guys.
07:47Thanks for the call.
07:48No, I completely agree with you, Willard.
07:52I do think it's a little bit of distraction.
07:55The way the players reacted to him hitting that game winner, it's like, that's not the
08:01kind of reaction that a team has around a guy that they have confidence in.
08:05You know, I do think it was like manufactured, trying to pump him up.
08:09But there was two things I took from that game.
08:12Number one, when he missed his field goal, they cut to Kyle Shanahan, and you could see
08:18how annoyed he was.
08:19And it's a preseason game.
08:21Then their next drive, what does Kyle do?
08:25He starts going forward on fourth downs in positions on the field that I don't know if
08:29he would have before.
08:30And I know it's preseason.
08:31They're kind of messing, you know, they're toying around with some things.
08:35But that's the first thing.
08:37The second thing was the red zone efficiency.
08:40I know it's a preseason game.
08:41I know they're using a hodgepodge of an offensive line.
08:44They don't have a lot of starters in.
08:46But it kind of looked the same as it did last year.
08:48As soon as they get into that red zone, there's penalties.
08:51They're not buttoned up.
08:53They can't get spacing.
08:55Obviously, they're settling for field goals.
08:57And I'm just worried about if Kyle doesn't have 100% confidence in his kicker, and they're
09:04already having red zone efficiency issues, is that going to be a problem, you know, in the
09:10middle of the season when he can't trust the kicker.
09:13Well, I mean, Ryan, the only way to answer that right now, and thank you, is that it
09:17might be.
09:17But I do, the two examples you brought up, I'm going to separate the two.
09:22And I know people don't want to do this because there's so many out there.
09:25No matter who your quarterback is or whatever team you root for, you want that quarterback
09:29to be a dog.
09:30You want him to do it all by himself.
09:33Brock Purdy is out there.
09:35First of all, there's one drive.
09:37Second of all, there's no Trent Williams.
09:39There's no Christian McCaffrey.
09:41There's no a bunch of pieces.
09:42No George Kittle, yeah.
09:43Kirk is like, there's no a bunch of pieces that would, in a normal situation, would be
09:49there in order to reach your goal and get into the end zone.
09:54So, to me, the red zone efficiency thing is very much like sending Jake Moody without
10:00a left shoe.
10:02And then if he misses going, dude, I don't like the way it looks.
10:06Well, it's like we didn't have a left shoe.
10:08Like, he wasn't able to plant.
10:10But the Moody thing, and this is why I see it a little bit differently than you, Dibs,
10:15as far as giving him preseason grace, this is like just a repetitive act.
10:21That is it.
10:22This is a grandfather clock.
10:23Ding, ding, ding, ding.
10:25That's it.
10:26Swing the leg, kick the ball straight.
10:27It is pretty much the exact same thing.
10:30I know it might be this hash mark, that hash mark, 40 yards, 55 yards.
10:34I understand the little intricacies.
10:36But he's been kicking in practice for weeks now.
10:39And I just don't see a preseason game and a regular season game for Jake Moody being
10:47all that different.
10:48Other than that, the pressure ramps up a little bit, which in theory should make the preseason
10:53even easier.
10:55Like, just kick the ball straight.
10:57That's it.
10:58That's the only assignment.
10:59And they're not all going to go straight.
11:00And, you know, even the best kicker in the league last year by percentage, Nick Folk,
11:0495.5%.
11:05He was 21 for 22.
11:08He missed a kick.
11:10Brandon Aubrey was probably the best kicker in the league.
11:12And he attempted 47.
11:14He missed seven times.
11:16He made that 65-yarder, which was the longest.
11:18But he wound up above the average.
11:2084 is the average.
11:22Moody goes 5 for 6, which is 83.3%.
11:25And you'll take it.
11:27Now, the aesthetics of it, you're right, the one make was a little bit scary from 27 or
11:3226.
11:33Whatever it was.
11:34Another yard or two back and that thing doinks or goes wide left.
11:38And so, yeah, that's not great.
11:39But all of this confidence, accuracy, it all gets sorted out almost in real time.
11:46Where if he misses big kicks or makeable kicks, and the caller's right, Shanahan, he is probably
11:53more perturbed than most when it comes to kickers who miss.
11:57I mean, all the coaches get mad when their kicker misses.
12:00No, for sure.
12:00And there are certain things, and Shanahan right now is already wearing some of these.
12:04He did it all last year with all things special teams.
12:08And Jake Moody, while this is different than covering a kickoff, he is a part of special
12:15teams.
12:16And Kyle has the same look on his face every time something goes wrong on special teams.
12:23And to me, the look on his face says, are you kidding me?
12:27Do I need to do this too?
12:29I thought this was a delegation sensation.
12:32That's a buck.
12:33And I thought that y'all were buttoned up.
12:36Because it's really not rocket science.
12:39Now, what Kyle does and what Robert Sala does, those are a little bit rocket science-y.
12:45Special teams is not.
12:47I'm sure it's more intricate than I realize.
12:50But especially when it comes to kicking or punting or, to a degree, the wedge and covering
12:56a kick.
12:57It is very much, to me, like a dog at the dog park.
13:00Right?
13:01You throw the ball.
13:02The dog is like, go get ball.
13:04Come back.
13:05That's it.
13:06And there are dogs.
13:07You go out to the dog park.
13:08You ask.
13:09Next time Gene calls in, go ask him.
13:12There are dogs that will not bring the ball back.
13:15And guess what?
13:16That owner's not playing.
13:17We're not playing fetch anymore.
13:20It is.
13:20That's keep away.
13:21That's special.
13:22Exactly.
13:22That's a different game.
13:23It's a game.
13:25It's a different game.
13:26So, to me, that's special teams.
13:28It's a dog at the dog park, dude.
13:30You got one job.
13:32Okay?
13:32This is when your wife sends you to the grocery store.
13:35For peanut butter.
13:36Don't come back with an onion.
13:38You have one job.
13:41Go out there.
13:42Do it well.
13:43And if not, my face is going to get red.
13:46And if you miss two or three times on that job, we're going to go find somebody who can.
13:52That's right.
13:52And, you know, you have a certain amount of equity built up.
13:56If you're a kicker who's been around for a long time, you are allowed to have a bad stretch and maybe go into a funk.
14:03I wonder about Justin Tucker had he not gotten into his horrendous off-field situations that made it all but impossible for him to keep kicking.
14:12Because he's been one of the best to ever do it.
14:14And he had a bad year last year.
14:16And the off-field stuff makes it so there's really no conversation about him still kicking.
14:21But Jake Moody doesn't have that level of equity built up.
14:26This is year three.
14:27Year one was good.
14:28It wasn't elite.
14:29It was good.
14:30He was better than average.
14:31Year two was trending toward being good.
14:34And then he got hurt.
14:36And then after that, he either lost his confidence, lost his foot.
14:39Whatever happened, happened.
14:40And he was one of the worst kickers in the league.
14:43He actually was only ahead of four other kickers at the end of the year in percentage made.
14:47He was 32nd out of 36 people who actually tried to kick the football.
14:53By the way, the other thing I would say about this is like the 49ers have already told you what they're thinking about it.
14:59They're thinking the same thing you are.
15:01Don't listen to the whole like, oh, we love Jake.
15:04I'm sure you do.
15:05He's a human being.
15:06You drafted him and he's been your co-worker for three years.
15:09Seems like a nice guy.
15:11I'm sure you absolutely love Jake.
15:13But what did the 49ers do to start this year?
15:16They brought in another kicker.
15:19And they did not release him because Jake was kicking that guy's butt.
15:23That's not why they released him.
15:25They released him because of all the other injuries that were happening around camp.
15:30And they needed a roster spot.
15:32And they damn well realized that two weeks from now, if they want to bring Greg Joseph back in, they can.
15:38And like, they could do a week one or week two or week three or whatever.
15:42So, I don't, whatever the Niners say right now, I think the Niners think the exact same way you all do about Jake Moody.
15:51Talented guy, really rooting for him, but I'm not sold.
15:56I think that describes the Niners right now.
15:59Without a doubt.
15:59And that's why they brought in competition for him.
16:02They brought in a real veteran who's done it at, you know, at a high level and has done it for a long time.
16:07It's not like they brought in three or four just camp bodies just to try to see.
16:11They brought in real competition.
16:13And you're right.
16:13They didn't end it because they wanted to end it.
16:16They had to because they were running out of bodies.
16:18So, I'm sure as they said goodbye to Greg, they said, hey, Greg, here's our schedule.
16:23Why don't you go ahead and stay tuned.
16:25Keep your cell phone on, Greg.
16:26Yeah, you know, go ahead and keep loosening up and kick those footballs at your local high school.
16:31Because you know and I know that we may need you.
16:35And not every team has their kicker go all the way through the year.
16:39Sometimes it's due to injury.
16:40Sometimes it's due to ineffectiveness.
16:42So, I don't even know how many free agent real NFL kickers are out there.
16:47But there's a small collection of dudes who are running around high school fields just putting footballs in the air.
16:53Yeah, absolutely.
16:54By the way, a little bit more that Kyle had to say on Moody after this preseason game on Saturday.
17:00And apparently, part of it was that Moody actually took the floor and spoke to the entire team after this game.
17:09Yeah, it was cool.
17:10We had him give a speech, break us down.
17:12It's a little anti-climatic, but he did a good job.
17:15Guys are happy for him.
17:16And then he also said this.
17:17Yeah, I think going four for five and hitting a 59-yarder and a 50-yarder in the game winner from 59.
17:23I think that was a hell of a day for him.
17:24So, I thought he kicked his ass off because it's a lot of confidence.
17:28Okay.
17:28Okay.
17:29Hey, he kicked his ass off.
17:31If that early one is six inches further hooked, I mean, we're having a different conversation today.
17:41Perhaps, yeah.
17:42It just, to me, it comes down to the last kick, which was 59, which is nothing to sneeze at.
17:47It's a great kick.
17:48And it's a game winner.
17:49And I know it's not really a game winner in the sense that that game actually mattered.
17:54But, you know, you play football, and it's a preseason game, and now your kicker has a chance to win the game, and he does it.
18:01And so I loved the response from his teammates.
18:03I don't think that it was, you know, overly Hallmark movie Disney Channel.
18:09It just, to me, was a group of guys happy for their teammate who maybe took a step toward regaining his confidence.
18:16Phil Mo Mike, I think, is on the line, which is always a good time.
18:20So we're going to do that in a second.
18:21But coming up in 10 minutes, before Feliciano jumps on here with us, John Feliciano is going to join us at 3.15.
18:30I want to talk about Ricky Pearsall.
18:33I would like to talk about Ricky Pearsall.
18:35And I do not, this is not a victory lap.
18:37This is not at all.
18:39Because why would I?
18:39Well, you're stretching out right now.
18:40It's a stupid preseason game.
18:41Whatever.
18:42Whatever.
18:43But you see it.
18:46I see it.
18:48Guy Haberman saw it.
18:49Everybody who's been to camp sees it.
18:53And I would love to dig into what the hesitancy is, seemingly, from people to sort of like buy stock in this guy.
19:03I think he's just going to be fantastic.
19:08And, man, I hope he stays healthy.
19:11So more on that in just a little bit.
19:12But Phil Mo, Phil Mo, what are you doing?
19:16Hey, that's great.
19:17That's a great segue because the same reason you feel like Ricky Pearsall is going to be great is the same reason people feel like Jake Moody is going to suck.
19:26It don't matter because it's preseason.
19:29Right?
19:30Your preparation is the preseason.
19:31Your confidence is not there because we haven't seen this before.
19:35So, y'all having a great show.
19:37And that's all I wanted to say.
19:38The confidence in Moody is not that we don't think Moody's a good kicker.
19:43We don't have confidence in him.
19:45So, when you ask, like, is it DeVal or Moody?
19:48Oh, man, I'm going with DeVal easily.
19:49I've seen him do it so many times.
19:52With Jake Moody, I've seen him mess up.
19:55And with a kicker, it's not how many times you miss or make.
19:59It's when you miss or make.
20:01Also true.
20:02Booyah!
20:02Also true.
20:05Although, although, and Phil Mo, thank you, that went in Jake's favor over the weekend.
20:10Miss early, make late.
20:11And make long.
20:12So, that's wonderful.
20:13But if you're comparing him to Camilo DeVal, and your answer, as Phil Mo's was, is I would
20:19take DeVal confidence over Moody confidence.
20:22Well, I would just like to remind everybody, DeVal's team gave up on him.
20:27DeVal's team said, see you later, with two years of team control at a cheap number still
20:33remaining.
20:34So, the Giants did not like the Camilo DeVal lack of confidence.
20:39That's where they sat.
20:40And a closer is, part of it is also they had someone waiting in the wings that they think
20:44can do the job.
20:45But, that's even harder to replace than a kicker.
20:48Much harder.
20:49I mean, kickers are mostly a dime a dozen.
20:52If you have a really, really good one, then you've got a leg up, pun intended, on the
20:56competition.
20:57And so, you hope that Jake Moody's going to be that.
20:59You used a third round pick to take him.
21:01And, you're going to give him a little extra latitude, I think, because you spent draft
21:06capital on him.
21:07But, that extra latitude, I believe, has now expired.
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