In a newly released set of interviews with the Department of Justice, Jeffrey Epstein accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell spoke about RFK Jr.'s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:00I think you mentioned former Secretary of State John Kerry yesterday, but if not, do you know Mr. Kerry or no?
00:08I have met him, but I don't know if Mr. Epstein ever met him.
00:12I met him at only, well, really, I can't even probably characterize that as a meeting,
00:18but I was very, very involved in the ocean at work through the, you asked me yesterday about Terramar,
00:25and if I recall right, I met Mr., the Secretary, that way, through the ocean,
00:33but he wouldn't know who I am, I don't think.
00:36Do you know whether, well, do you know former Senator Ted Kennedy?
00:42Yes.
00:43Is that through your own life or through Mr. Epstein?
00:48My life.
00:49Do you know whether Mr. Epstein knew Senator Kennedy?
00:53I don't believe so.
00:54And so, for the folks we just talked about, so, former Secretary of State John Kerry, Ted Kennedy,
01:01did, you don't know whether Mr. Epstein knew him, so I take that to mean you have no recollection of them flying on his planes or visiting him.
01:10Oh, but, um, Bobby Kennedy knew him.
01:17Bobby the health.
01:20Sorry, say that again about Bobby Kennedy?
01:21Bobby knew Mr. Epstein.
01:22How do you know that?
01:24Because we went on a trip together.
01:26We went to, um, dinosaur bone hunting in the Dakotas.
01:36When was that, you know, approximately, I'm not looking for an exact date, but when was that?
01:43That was early.
01:44That was in the early, no.
01:45Well, let me back up.
01:47I knew, um, Bobby's wife, Mary, pretty well, actually, and before he met her.
01:55And just to help us, I know we're talking about a wide span of time, but what are you, when are you talking about that you knew, um, Mr. Kennedy's wife before they were married?
02:08Right, so when are we talking about the, um, I, uh, um, in 19, all right, I just got to get my head straight.
02:18In, um, well, would this have been before you met Mr. Epstein?
02:24Yes.
02:24Or after?
02:25I met him before I met him.
02:26So we're talking about the 1980s?
02:28Oh, yes, yes, thank you.
02:30Okay.
02:30The 80s.
02:31Okay, so we're talking about the 1980s, and then, and then.
02:35I was, the, the, the, I had a very, very long-standing boyfriend, and he had, his brother was, uh, dating Mary at the time, and we were all very good friends.
02:48And then, Mr. Epstein, uh, did, did Mr. Epstein meet Bobby Kennedy through you?
02:57I don't, I, I don't think so, because, um, Mr. Epstein, surprisingly, everyone says everything happened to me, that, that's just not true.
03:08I mean, I think, yesterday, I explained that he had friends from London, and those are very, they were what the people would call fancy.
03:18They were fancy people.
03:19Um, and, but he had the same types of relationships before I met him in, um, in America.
03:27So, when I met him, he was, uh, already, you know, Wexner, and he had Henry, and he had, he was, I don't know if then he was at the, in the Council of Foreign Relations, but he was friends with Ace, and, you know, like, he, he was, he was well-established.
03:46Yeah.
03:46He didn't need me, and he was, you know, his, Eva was, um, you know, major model.
03:52So, he had all these modeling connections, and friends, in that business, that, long before I met him.
04:03And so, the trip that you went on with Mr. Epstein and Bobby Kennedy, was that in the 90s, in the 2000s?
04:11I think it was in the, it would have been in the, um, I want to say 93, 94.
04:19Okay.
04:20So, a very long time ago.
04:21A very, very long time ago.
04:22A few years into the, your relationship, a few years into the time that you knew Mr. Epstein.
04:31Yes.
04:32I mean, I, I don't want to hold myself to the dates, because I really.
04:35No, no, I'm not holding you to dates.
04:36I think, I've said that a lot, because I appreciate we're talking about the 80s and 90s, and even, even the 2000s.
04:41And I just want you to know, I haven't had any, I don't have anything to review, so I haven't had any ability to, short of my legal material, obviously, which I, you can, you know, I have.
04:52I have, so I came with a box, but short of that, I have nothing with which to refresh, or very limited stuff, I should say.
04:59I don't want to say nothing to refresh my mind.
05:01I understand that.
05:02Do you have any recollection of Mr. Kennedy, of there being anything inappropriate with Mr. Kennedy and masseuses or young women on the trip you just talked about?
05:15I never saw anything inappropriate with Mr. Kennedy.
05:19And do you know whether he ever got a massage from one of the masseuses? Do you know either way?
05:25I do not.
05:26But not something you remember?
05:28I mean, absolutely not. I mean, he, well, I mean, yesterday, if I didn't make it clear, I will reiterate it.
05:34I never, ever saw any man doing something inappropriate with a woman of any age.
05:45I never saw inappropriate, ever.
05:47Now, I'm not, I'm not going to say, you know, hands or, I mean, that to me is not inappropriate.
05:55Now, if somebody's inappropriate, and mine may be different, but we're not talking about anything that's, resembles the accusations that were discussed here.
06:06So, that would be a flat note to any man.
06:11Did your or Mr. Epstein's relationship with Mr., with Bobby Kennedy continue into the 2000s, as far as you know?
06:18I would say yes.
06:23Well, mine, yes.
06:24Years, with you?
06:25With me, for sure.
06:26And do you know whether Mr. Epstein and Mr. Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, continue to have relationships into the 2000s?
06:35I have no personal knowledge of that.
06:36I mean, I would, I, because, here's another, another thing is that everyone puts us together like a monolith.
06:44He literally had a separate life from me.
06:46I literally had a separate life from him.
06:49Now, did they say, well, of course they did.
06:50I'm not, I'm not crazy, but he kept a lot to himself, and he didn't like to share.
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