00:00Did you ever observe President Trump receive a massage?
00:04Never.
00:06Did you ever observe, you said that you were, I mean, have you seen, there's photographs,
00:14public photographs of Mr. Epstein and President Trump together.
00:20Yes.
00:20And there's photographs of, I think you're in some of the photographs as well.
00:25Those all appear to be social settings.
00:26Yes.
00:27Yes. That's my memory. There were social settings.
00:30I don't know Epstein's, if he had, whatever the nature of the President's friendship, if you will,
00:39however you want to define that with Epstein, I was never witnessed.
00:43I think they were friendly, like people are in social settings.
00:46I don't think they were close friends or, I certainly never witnessed the President in any of,
00:55I don't recall ever seeing him in his house, for instance.
00:58I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting.
01:02I never witnessed the President in any inappropriate setting in any way.
01:07The President was never inappropriate with anybody.
01:09In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman, in all respects.
01:15When's the last time you think you saw, in person, President Trump?
01:22It's been a long time.
01:25Probably not sometime in the beginning, mid-2000s maybe, and it would only have been a social setting,
01:34as far as I recall.
01:36And did you ever hear Mr. Epstein, or anybody, say that President Trump had done anything inappropriate
01:44with masseuses or with anybody in your world?
01:48Absolutely never.
01:50In any context.
01:51Do you know whether masseuses from Mar-a-Lago Spa ended up giving massages to, private massages to Mr. Epstein?
02:05I'm not asking what you may have read, but at the time, from your personal knowledge, do you know whether that's true?
02:11I don't, I don't recall.
02:14Is it possible?
02:15Yes.
02:16But I don't remember, I don't remember that.
02:18So, I don't want to, I don't recall that, but it's possible.
02:22Do you have recollection of you ever recruiting a masseuse from Mar-a-Lago Spa to give, to go give a private massage to Mr. Epstein?
02:30I've never recruited a masseuse from Mar-a-Lago for that, as far as I remember.
02:35I can't ever recollect doing that.
02:37Um.
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