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Working in my family’s print shop as I grew up laid the foundation for my career, first in education and then in publishing and advanced technology development. Over 50 years, I’ve worked with R.R. Donnelley, Reader’s Digest, and Sotheby’s. During my five years at Columbia University “at the turn of the century,” I developed a keen interest in geothermal energy technology, which led me to attend conferences and visit geothermal sites.
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00:00Hey guys, it's me, Yaya Diamond. What's up? I'm so very excited to be here today. I'm very excited
00:20to be here because I have an author on the show. Mr. Carl Vane is here. He's going to be talking
00:25about his book and I want to show you this book because I think this is an amazing book. I mean,
00:29you. It's so simple yet just you. I mean, I have to talk about this because there's a lot of things
00:37that I can think about when I think about you. Is it me? Is it we? Is it us? Or is it you? Welcome
00:46to the show. Thank you so much for being here. I'm very honored. Thank you. So first of all,
00:53I love the cover. I absolutely love that it's just titled You. I want to get into that. Why
00:59just you? What was it? What is it? Well, there's a poem. When I was in high school, I started
01:07writing poetry a little bit. But one of the things that happened in one of my classes,
01:14I read a poem. I was taking Look Magazine in those days at home. It was like the 1961 or
01:21that era. And W. H. Auden, who's a poet, had his poem called You in that magazine. I still
01:31have the magazine, the original page of this poem. And what is wonderful about it, it speaks
01:39to you, yourself. And what we tend to do is we tend to blame all our problems on others.
01:49And we work, you know, we're pointing the finger all the time at you or you, you. And it turns
01:58out what the poem is all about is making that clear that you are in control of you. And it's
02:10the way it starts. It says, really, must you over familiar dense companion be there always?
02:18It's like he's pointing at that other who is really up here. Do you have to be there?
02:23The bond between us goes on and on. But it's such a nice poem because it encapsulates all
02:35that finger pointing. That we have to be careful when we're thinking about our problems, describing
02:44issues, and so on. It's not that person's fault or that one's fault or this. We're there.
02:51That's us. You. And that's what I wrote. I titled it his poem title because it was magical
02:59for me my whole life. And since then, I've written poems and short stories and essays and
03:05things. And this book contains, it's not a novel. It does contain stories and poems that
03:16I've, I've written over the years. And it's, but I, and I, this is the first book. Well,
03:22there's another version that I published in 2020, which is the first one is pretty much,
03:30this one is just a recapitulation of that with the best, better cover. It's all very nice.
03:36I like this. I like the cover. I really do. I really kind of makes me think and it makes
03:42me ponder, who are you talking about? Are you talking about you? Are you talking about
03:47me? Who are you talking about? Because we, we can get into this.
03:52Oh yeah. We, part of, part of it is that number of the poems in there have people's names because,
04:00you know, I had girlfriends and I, and I wanted to, I always, I don't know, we, we have those
04:08relationships. And then in my poems, I tried to express that. And then there, the, there are,
04:15there's a short story or two and an essay or two and just describing, I'm just writing that I've put
04:21together. It's very short book. Actually. I was, I'm, I'm right now, I'm trying to write down my
04:27biography better. And I've had, I'm such a lucky person. I've had a wonderful life. I've managed to
04:34live here in Indiana is where I was born. Then I went to a university. Well, I went by Indiana
04:42University and then I went overseas with a group of people and we got to Nice, France and there was
04:51an American church there. I don't know. I was a sophomore in college at that point. And there was
04:59an American church, an Anglican church and the priest and his wife were looking for somebody to
05:06stay and, and go to school. They have a university there too. Um, and what I could, they pay for me to,
05:15I could stay there and have meals and everything. And then when you go to school, it's
05:20that's the name of the school. And yes. So I stayed and did it and got back to Indiana University
05:29at the end of the school year and started taking summer school to catch up with my, my graduation
05:36year in 1968. And I did, I made up to classes and things. And that's, like I said, it started
05:42out wonderfully. They got to travel all over Europe and, and wound up, uh, with a motorcycle
05:48that I bought at the street sale and, and drove down Italy and, um, over into some other,
05:57Amsterdam, Switzerland. Um, it's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. It was fantastic. And I, and Paris was one
06:06of the places that I, I really liked a lot. Yeah. And it's, it's always on the Mediterranean
06:12has got the beach and all that. And so I got, it was beautiful. It's beautiful. And I went to
06:18London and cut it out. So I came home. Then after that, I went to graduate school at the Western
06:26Kentucky university. That's, um, studied English there. And they had a program. It was called
06:33the teacher core. So that you taught in a local school, which the town was called Columbia, but
06:40went to, uh, Western Kentucky university as the, as your graduate school. And it paid for
06:47itself. That was very nice. So I got a master's there and, um, and I taught in that town. Then I
06:54got, uh, hired by the Bureau of Indian affairs in Alaska and that for two, I worked there two
07:02years in Sitka at a school called Mount Edgecombe. That is the, is a school for all the kids in
07:09the state of Alaska who don't have elementary schools in there in the area. And that's practically
07:15all of them at that point. So he had 120 kids and, and I taught school and got to go, um, I got to
07:25be in Sitka, which is a beautiful place in the Southeast part of Alaska and near Juneau. And then
07:33got to tour in Alaska and down the keys and all that. And, um, and then after that, my, my parents had
07:43met during world war II, my mother was a, was a, uh, seamstress and repaired parachutes and sewed
07:50them. My dad was a paratrooper and, uh, he actually jumped into Alaska at one point, but I think I'm
07:57the reason they got married. Okay. It's sort of synchronous with all that. And they never said
08:06that. And I just, but meanwhile, here I am. And my dad lived in San Francisco, the San Francisco
08:12area, Marine County and so on. So every summer I got to go to go out there and, and, uh, it
08:19was, it was, that was wonderful too. So back and forth. And then I started, um, after the
08:26teacher core, I was, I got, I was hired by a thing called the graphic arts technical foundation
08:33because I was a technical person at the start of the computer era, which was in the late seventies,
08:39early, early eighties. And, um, I showed printers and typesetters how to use their equipment and how
08:48to be, uh, how to get to buy new equipment, select new equipment, because at that time technology was
08:55just beginning to enter the printing industry. So instead of setting type, you know, like they used
09:00to, you could, um, in the line of type machine. Now at that point, it just started with photo type
09:07setting, which meant that there's a machine that would take a little, uh, set the type on, on a piece
09:14of paper and you could paste that up and make, you put things together much simpler. Wow. And then
09:21dah, dah, dah, dah. And then I went to a, a printer called RR Donnelly, who was a book publisher. And
09:26I worked for Sotheby's and a bunch of other, uh, groups all in Pennsylvania and la dee da.
09:35And I wound up in New York working for, um, living on Hudson river, beautiful place where Pete Seeger
09:43lived. And he had, he had two, he had created, uh, two sail sailing ships and they had clubs,
09:51the Clearwater and the, and the Woody Guthrie it was called. And, um, so I got to live in Beacon
09:57and I got in, uh, the, uh, the Clearwater club and, and, and we sailed. I got to be crew on those ships
10:07and sail people, tourists around, down. That was wonderful. And I worked in New York, which was,
10:14I was on a Hudson river, um, of course goes into Manhattan and there's a couple of train lines.
10:22There is a train line there. So you can get to the city in about 45 minutes to an hour on the train.
10:31And it's not expensive. You don't have to park or anything. So that's what I did for many years in
10:37New York and worked at, like I said, at, um, art, art schools and, and Sotheby's my, my resume. I, I, I
10:48looked at it the other day. It's, it's a huge list of places that I've lived and worked. I don't have
10:55one right here in the hand, but it's, um, it, I've been so, so lucky. As I said, I was hired here and
11:02hired there and moved on. That is a blessing. And, um, you're right. And then on my 50th,
11:11came back to Connorsville, Indiana for my 50th high school class reunion. And I met a woman who wanted
11:17to come to New York and, uh, I had known her, but I hadn't dated her in high school. So she came to New
11:24York and I took her to the city and everything, and, and then, uh, came back to Connorsville again.
11:30And she came to New York again, and then la dee da. Here I am in Connorsville, Indiana, living with
11:37my fiance. Oh, and her, she owns the house and we have, it's, I'm the gardener and a housekeeper and
11:48nurse. She's the owner. That's cool. That is so cool. So I want to get, I want to get this whole
11:57concept going. Cause we were talking about something before we started the show today and
12:01it's over the threatening to write a book for over 50 years. Yeah, I was putting, I, like I said,
12:07I had written things and submitted them to various publishers and magazines, a couple of magazines and
12:14so on, but, uh, never really put a book together. And so it just so happened that I, uh, I did and
12:24that had put this book. Now, now I'd like to write more. Um, I still write, but I don't,
12:32I don't publish anything except this book. Why that book though? Like, tell me what made you publish
12:40that book? And even though you do have writings, even though you could probably publish another book,
12:46why that one? Well, it's just a collection of pieces of paper I had on my desk and I put together
12:54and, uh, and made an electronic version. And there, that was the core of the book. And then, um,
13:03that's, that's what happened. And this publisher, um, author trans, uh, the, the publisher of this book
13:11is, um, author tranquility press and authors tranquility press. And they came along and just,
13:22and put it together. Actually, I gave them the manuscript and bang, there was a book.
13:26They're very good. They're very good at what they do. Very good at what they do. So how,
13:32okay. So you said you wrote the notes and it was just things that you had in your mind. How did you do
13:39that? How did, how does one relate to the other or does it at all? Notes. I mean, well, I just have
13:46a collection of, um, I had my writing in a file folder here and there and I'd written things for
13:55various, like I said, various publications, but, uh, and then I just stacked it up and put it together.
14:02And that's the manuscript. It's, and it just, so it wasn't, um, I don't know. It wasn't,
14:10I've had these things lying around for years, some of them more recent than others, of course, but, um,
14:16that's what happened. I met. Wow. Life is that, that what's so nice about writing or about my life
14:24anyway, is there is so much good subject matter out there and I've, I've been lucky enough to, to.
14:33I gotcha. I gotcha. So, you know, you talk about the accidental tourist. Do you have a personal
14:40example about that? Accidental tourist.
14:44Let's see. Um, I, I was, were you thinking of an individual piece in the book or? Yeah, you know,
14:56your originally appeal, it originally appealed to you because of, it felt like random and unpredictable
15:01to you. Is that, is that what it is or am I kind of off on that? No, I actually, I, um,
15:10the accidental tourist, like I said, I was traveling and I, I happened to see the American
15:16church in Nice and, you know, that was all accidental. They invited me over and, oh my gosh,
15:22I wound up living there for four months and months and, and they fed me and they're really nice people,
15:29a priest, uh, an Anglican priest and his wife. They're from America. They're from Boston. And,
15:36uh, so then I never did get to catch up with them back here at home, but in the US, but they, I
15:44corresponded, of course, and they're, uh, they were so nice. It was, and they also had, uh, meetings of,
15:52they invited students and tourists every Thursday. They had a dinner. So, and I would go down and kind
16:00of recruit people at that. And that, that, like I said, I was an accidental tourist. I just happened
16:06to see, find them and they found me. Wow. Well, that is so cool. I love when things like that happen
16:12accidentally. Yeah. Wow. So, okay. So your collection, right? Your collection and your book, you,
16:19you, you know, what is it that, okay. Cause you could have chosen like other things, like other
16:28writings. Did you choose all of your writings and the ones that you did choose? Why?
16:34Good question. Um, this, one of the things that I got lucky in high school, our, um, English teacher
16:49was asking, he made us write poetry. And I actually, one of the poems in the book that I like,
16:57one, one of the best is called, uh, aftermath, a memory, the lovers. And it was, um, I just,
17:06it was really, it just came all that. And that's the way I think most good writing does. You,
17:12something happens and you start, sit back and describe it and put the words together in a way that
17:18attractive to you. And there it is a poem, or if it's a story, you try to tell it. Um,
17:25I don't know, of course, try to tell it simply and straightforward. Yeah. Yeah. So you, you talk
17:34about yourself in the book, but do you talk about political things? I mean, is this book going through
17:40a timeline for you? Not necessarily. It's just a collection of things along the way. Um, I,
17:48I don't, there's nothing in here that says vote for somebody or don't vote for somebody. It's just,
17:58it's not political. And the other, uh, I don't know. I'm, I'm looking, gazing at the book right now,
18:07but it all, it's each of those things is just all of a sudden I was doing something and I realized I
18:15needed to, I could write it down about how I felt about it. Nice. Yeah. That's really good. I like
18:23that because I mean, as time goes on, you know, that recollection is, it's sort of historical for
18:29people who are going to be reading it in the future where they can kind of go back into your
18:33life and find out what was going on with you in that time. I think that, I think that we all need
18:41to do stuff like that. We all need to, you know, write our, our feelings down and the things that
18:46are going on around us. Historically speaking, that is the reason why we know about a lot of
18:53different times back in the past, like Roman times and, and all other kinds of times, you know what I
18:57mean? Um, so what do you want the readers to come from or get from your collection?
19:04Well, the people who've read it so far have said, um, it, they're, they like some of the insights into,
19:15um, into how they could describe, say there are four or five women that I describe in here and it just,
19:25they say, well, that's, I should do that. Or, you know, it's a, it's a motivator, I hope. And then,
19:32and I'm hoping it's a motivator for me. I want to write another one or write something more of a
19:39biography, I think. Yeah, I hear you. So you are going to write something else. Cause that was my
19:44next question. Like, okay, so you have this collection here and you said that you are doing
19:49something else, uh, the biography possibly, or. Yeah, it's more like history, but it's biography, but it,
19:59uh, right now what's, what's happened is I always here in Connorsville, um, or in Beacon in New York,
20:06where I live, I got involved with community activities, community service types of stuff,
20:11like sailing at the Woody Guthrie thing, having the dinners for people, um, volunteering and having,
20:20helping people along, I guess is where I should say it. And it wound up, um, here in Connorsville,
20:30we have a thing called community sharing. I got involved with that. And what happens is we go to
20:35those Walmart, Kroger's, different stores and pick up the food that they're, I mean, they're,
20:41I was going to say dumping, but that it's maybe just a bit out of date or going to be out of date next
20:46week type thing. And a lot of canned goods too, that they're, they just want to get off the shelves.
20:51And we put those together and hand them out, um, three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
20:58uh, one to three, if you're interested. And, uh, and you, so you, the, we hand those boxes,
21:05we put the boxes together and hand them out. We do about, serve about the people is about 1200,
21:131500 people a week. And then, um, but the box that we serve, uh, anywhere between 40 and 70 cars,
21:22and that may be, uh, you know, families or something, but they have to qualify by salad, by salary or by
21:30other conditions that they, they can't work or they can't earn enough money to, and that's not right.
21:37They can earn money, but we just like to give the food away and help, help the family if we can.
21:44And then I also belong to the, to Rotary here and the Art Association. We have a wonderful, um,
21:53when I got here, right when I got here, they were moving the Art Association from a small house into an
22:00available property on in downtown Connorsville. And it's a real nice location and a good building,
22:07but it needs a lot of work, new roof and so on. So help to do that. And, uh, and then there's, uh,
22:16that's a wonderful place. The Art Association, we have a monthly exhibit and, uh, buffet in the evening of
22:24the first of the month and spring spring, spring that off. And this could be an individual artist
22:31who's shows her work, his or her work. And, uh, or it can be a collection of, we have the high school
22:39kids, you know, art groups and that's a, one of the week, one of the months and so on and so on.
22:46So that, that is nice. And the people, the artists here, I'm starting, I never did paint except in
22:54eighth grade and art class. And that was it. But now I see a lot of wonderful people in a small town
23:02in Indiana. And we can't, I, I'm one of the people that I worked with in New York at, they, at the,
23:10the Arts Association there in New York City. Um, he also just happened to move back to, he didn't move
23:19back. He moved to Connersville. Um, and, uh, Hector Perez is his name. And he, uh, I don't know,
23:27it's been interesting to watch each other because he is, he paints, he has really helped to make the
23:33Art Association a great place to be. Nice. And so we have that and then the boards, uh, the government,
23:45I'm a precinct chair for one of the, one of those precincts here in Fayette County and so on. And
23:52that's the job where you call up all the people, you know, the Democrats and I'm a Democrat, sorry.
23:59But, um, you know, you call up all your people in your district and try to get them to vote.
24:06And that's something I've been interested in all my life. Nice. Nice. Well, wow. I want to thank you
24:14so very much, Carl, for being on the show. I truly appreciate it. And your book, You, has really just
24:21been probably, I mean, let me ask you this and you know, and a lot of people probably don't understand
24:27when you write a book, was it a pivotal moment in your life when that got published?
24:32Oh yeah. It, uh, it was exciting when the first one, um, I see, I was looking for the, here it is.
24:41This was in 2020. I did this one and it's also called you and it's a collection. It's got some
24:47of the things that the current one has in it. And it's, um, I don't know, just, I went, that was great
24:55that it got published. And then this one came along and it's almost a whole group of people. Um, the art,
25:04the artist Tranquility Press, um, got it put together as a, you know, hard bound electronic and
25:13soft bound. So you can go to Barnes and Noble or you can go to, um, and it's just started to
25:20be published. I haven't made a single dollar royalty yet, but I'm sure hoping that it sells
25:26like crazy and I can make some money. Well, I hope so too. I really do hope so too. And
25:32you know, all you have to do is just keep telling people about it because something
25:35like, like they say, a business with no sign is a sign of no business. So you have to keep going.
25:42Yeah. I guess I should have a colored little thing on my collar.
25:44Yeah. We'll put it up here on the screen. There you go.
25:49We'll make your pen, right? Put a pen right there and be like you,
25:56but thank you so much for being on the show. I do have your website down below. It's you
26:00by Vain Lachey with an E. So I'm going to have that. Yeah. I'm going to have that. It's down
26:07over there. It's underneath you or over you. So that's right over there on the other side.
26:13Anyway. So thank you so much for being on the show. I appreciate it. And we're going to have
26:18that link. So you guys can go ahead and check out that website as well. And the book is also on Amazon
26:23and in Barnes and nobles. So you can get that there as well. Mr. Carl, thank you so much again for
26:29having us thank you for a vehicle by which you, you can, you know, have your book out and
26:38congratulations on everything. Congratulations to you. I I'm really happy to have you to have
26:45discovered you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is your show like I am is your show weekly, daily, monthly.
26:55It is pretty much every other day, every other day. And I, and, or when I put out new stuff,
27:01sometimes I'll put out stuff and it'll just be a bunch of stuff I put out and then it'll take about
27:07a week and then I'll put a bunch of stuff out. So yeah, it's, you know, it's whenever I, I get it,
27:12I get a chance to actually do, I've had, I got over a thousand interviews. I'm pushing like,
27:18I'm pushing 1500 interviews now. So it's, it's good. It's good. I'm so honored. I'm so,
27:23uh, no, don't worry about it. I think that your book, you is an amazing book and people
27:28should actually check that out because after a collection like yours, you can definitely,
27:34definitely, uh, get the feel of what happens throughout someone's life. And I want to thank
27:40you so much for being on the show. Well, thank you. I'm going to watch. I'm going to now,
27:45do I just come to yaya diamond.com and you can go ahead and get all the links over there on the page.
27:53So you can definitely go there and watch it anywhere you want. I want to thank you guys so
27:58much for tuning in. Don't forget to dare to be different and you don't forget to go check out you
28:04if I said that right. Until next time guys. Bye.
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