Nick Vale Discusses Free Will, Fate, and the Future of Society

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Amazon Link: https://a.co/d/g7mUAnS After three plus decades of waiting, The Celestine Prophecy has finally been fulfilled. The 1993 legendary and influential Prophecy predicted that an emerging culture and spiritual awakening unlike human beings had ever experienced before was about to occur. The Prophecy boldly foresaw that human beings would be able to achieve a huge breakthrough in spiritual consciousness. The wait is finally over as the long sought-after breakthrough and hence fulfillment of The Celestine Prophecy has now been attained. What is it? HUMAN BEINGS DO NOT HAVE FREE WILL. The implications of this bombshell breakthrough are truly historical. The fourteen insights and revelations contained in this book are the fulfillment of The Celestine Prophecy. The No Free Will Insight will be for the betterment of mankind and change the world forever. ⏱️⏱️VIDEO CHAPTERS⏱️⏱️:  00:00:00 - Introduction to Free Will Illusion 00:03:04 - Exploring the Concept of Free Will 00:05:54 - The Role of Society in Free Will 00:08:44 - Economic Class and Free Will Debate 00:11:28 - Philosophy and Current Events Intersection 00:14:18 - Consequences of Choices and Free Will 00:17:09 - Moral Superiority and Free Will 00:19:48 - Resistance to Free Will Concepts 00:22:30 - Universal Basic Income and Free Will 00:25:14 - Free Will in Religion and Science 00:28:05 - Quantum Physics and Free Will 00:30:55 - Causality and Decision Making 00:33:44 - Challenging Free Will Assumptions 00:36:28 - Simulation Theory and Free Will 00:39:10 - Conclusion: Living with Free Will Illusion https://podopshost.com/yayadiamond  https://podopshost.com/yayadiamond   ⚡ VidChapter AI generated these chapters, try it out https://vidchapter.com/?affiliate=yayadiamond Recommended podcast platform get 10% off: https://podopshost.com/register/?ref=yaya   Tools and Services I use: Appsumo has the best lifetime deals ever!!! I love this site.  appsumo.8odi.net/yayadiamond The easiest way to make your graphics: https://buff.ly/2RTQLn0 Best website for musicians. Try it for free on me: https://buff.ly/2GMYugG Make money with Fiverr.com: https://buff.ly/2KjTVvV   Our Amazon store: https://buff.ly/34RYNlm DISCLAIMER: Links included in this description might be affiliate links. If you purchase a product or service with the links that I provide I may receive a small commission. My affiliate links usually provide either a free trial or discount so go try them out on me! Thank you for supporting DreamChasersRadio.com  so I can continue to provide you with free content each week! Privacy Policy: https://buff.ly/2XSrflS ™Yaya Diamond Red Hot Reality Ent. LLC

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00:00hey guys it's me ya ya diamond what's up people's how you doing today we're gonna be talking to an

00:20author yes I love authors and you know and here is his Instagram right here is free will is an

00:26illusion and that's exactly what we're gonna be talking about is free will an illusion is it

00:32something that we just conjured up in our minds you're not free you can't be well are you well

00:38we're gonna talk about that I mean cuz I don't know I mean at this moment in time I'm thinking

00:43maybe I'm just like this little puppet or a pawn or something but my guest he is going to definitely

00:50talk about that today and I am just so very excited to have him on the show his book is right here and

00:56I'm going to put this on the screen it is the Celestine prophecy fulfilled and I hope I said

01:02that right but that is Nick Valle or Nick Valle and we can go both ways and I want to thank you guys

01:08and I want to thank you guys for tuning in thank you Nick for joining us did I say that right is it

01:13Valle or Valle? Valle. Ah Valle. We're going to be exploring the illusion of free will. Oh my gosh

01:20well Valle sounds good too because in some languages it's Valle. So tell me I mean let's

01:29go back a little bit tell me about yourself and then tell me when things started to change for you

01:35and how you kind of started to discover that free will is an illusion. So nothing in my life ever

01:43worked out I never really almost everything I wanted didn't seem to happen and my parents always told me if

01:49you do this and you'll get that and it never worked out for me and I kept a very detailed journal

01:54and uh I was always wondering you know what's going on and then I kind of figured out that I didn't

01:59believe in free will so I spoke to a lot of friends ministers pastors family and they all said no you're

02:05crazy there is free will so I felt crazier and crazier and then uh one night I was I guess I woke up in

02:13middle night I was having a dream and I went on back then it was called meet I don't even still just

02:17meetup.com and I plugged in meetup.com okay it was just in 2011 and I was like really freaking out over

02:25this feeling crazy because I had a journal my whole life and I could see that everything was cause and

02:29effect and but my parents I would say to them do is there free will and they said of course there is

02:35so anyway I went on meetup.com I put in illusion of free will and lo and behold there was a meetup

02:42support group for it in Manhattan and I went into the meetup group with a guy who ran it named George

02:48Ortega and with about 20 other people and we became a little society and George and I ended up doing a

02:54tv show in New York called free will question mark and we also did in the white plains it was called

03:00exploring the illusion of free will in white plains and we did that for four or five years and then

03:05suddenly Sam Harris wrote a book Robert Sapolsky wrote a book I started reading what Einstein thought

03:11with Stephen Hawking and all these people don't believe in free will but yeah yeah it's all

03:15underground it's all grassroots if you go on YouTube and put in is free will an illusion

03:22or google it the illusion of free will it's all over the place it's just not on the mainstream and

03:28it's actually obviously in academia and philosophy class and they talk about religion but it's never

03:34been on CNN or any normal I mean this is as mainstream as we're getting but I want you to keep an open

03:40mind because most people yell at me and say of course they have free will so I really appreciate

03:43you taking the time to explore the illusion of free will with me and investigate it you see this

03:49sweatshirt by the way I can't really tell I can I can exploring the illusion of free will I got it

03:54I like to answer your to answer your question one night for some reason I just put in on meetup.com

03:59is there free will and there was a meetup group a support group in Manhattan for people who believe who

04:04think there is not there is the free will is an illusion so that's how I got started with it

04:10okay so wait okay let's go back what is the illusion okay so let me ask let me be a little

04:19bit specific because that's really a broad question like what is that's a good question but what I'm

04:24thinking of is okay is it predestined set there is nothing you can do to change it everybody is a

04:29puppet we're walking around or are there different paths for different choices so there is a

04:38illusion of free will but yet there's still a path that you've chosen that is really already made up

04:45for you depending on your decisions all right so number one the illusion of free will is there's

04:51only two ways you can do something because you want to do it or because you're forced to do it okay

04:56so if you're being forced to do it obviously that's not free will so we're going to talk the

05:01entire time about number one because you want to do it but the thing is you don't get you don't get

05:06to choose what you want to do in the first place because if that were true who would commit a crime who

05:12would be depressed if you could only choose you know what you wanted to do you would only be moral

05:17and a perfect angel so yes you do yeah yeah you oh okay if I tied you up and left you in a chair

05:24obviously and brought you somewhere that's not free will forcing you to do something or coercion

05:29and making you you know putting a gun to your head and telling you I'm going to give you tremendous

05:33harm if you don't do something that's we're not we're not going to discuss that because nobody okay

05:37so we're only going to discuss people who tell me they do what they want to do okay like I but I

05:43don't get to choose what my desires are in the first place I don't choose what my preferences are in

05:48the first place because if you could who amongst us would do something evil commit a crime do

05:54something immoral it so you you clearly are always doing what you want but you know I keep saying

05:58you don't get to choose what you want in the first place does that make sense that's the illusion yeah

06:04yeah that's no that's that part you're going to say I want to be but you didn't choose I I have a

06:09desire to talk to you today but I didn't choose my thought before my thought it just comes from

06:13background causes from which I'm not consciously aware of or in control of correct because because

06:19if we did nobody would be committed no one would be depressed they would all choose only happy

06:24thoughts yeah yeah you know it's so funny and I'm going to go there and a lot of people don't talk

06:30about this I'm going to say it I'm going to say it if I had the choice uh from choice

06:36free will if I had a free will or a free choice um I would not have chosen to come to this world

06:46being black okay I'm actually the defender because it's a difficult republicans everyone's keeping you

06:56guys down with they're just using poverty dismissal and institutional racism the whole game is the free

07:03will game they're saying you have free will and it's your fault that you or your your race or

07:09whatever is not as success whatever you know race it's all about I'm the only person to come out and

07:16defend the lazy and the poor because there's no free will so that's why everybody should be given the

07:22same amount of money uh in this futuristic society when everyone understands there's no free will there

07:28should be universal basic income probably by age and when robots come around I guess the disgusting

07:34and bad jobs can be done by robots and then everybody can kind of do what they want as a hobby and

07:39everybody should be paid exactly the same and I just want to say one thing uh what's his name Bernie

07:45Sanders and Andrew Yang and many other politicians all tell everybody that gargantuan income inequality is

07:53immoral they've they've said that when they're defending especially the minorities but they never

07:57say why it's immoral and why it's immoral because there's no free will it's all luck it's all fate it's

08:03not your fault that you can't make it you can do everything so that you're calling that institutional

08:07racism it's because they're playing the free free will game with you they're saying even if you were

08:13born without a bootstrap you should be able to pick yourself up by your boots and your straps even if

08:18you don't like even if you don't have a father in the home and you were born poor you need to pick

08:22yourself up and and use your free will and make good choices but if there's no free will it's all

08:27fate and it's all luck and that's where the universal basic income should come in and that's exactly why

08:32I'm glad I didn't know you're you know it doesn't matter my best friends were it it doesn't matter

08:38really it doesn't yeah but but they're using it to keep you down the politicians are using indirect

08:43violence on the poor by saying you have free will yeah when we all know it's not just me either

08:48it's not just like everybody they keep down everybody so there's I have plenty of my friends

08:53that are white but they they live in trailer parks and they have that trailer park thing that keeps

08:59them down you have Puerto Ricans they are U.S. citizens but yet they're still treated like as if

09:05they're aliens in this country I didn't mean to bring bring the race I'm saying it justifies

09:09poverty free will no I'm saying I'm not I'm not saying race I'm saying I'm saying poverty economic

09:15class economic exactly yes but you guys need to focus on the free will issue because they're going

09:21to blame you and they make it like the bible said this and God said that and it's unchallengeable and

09:27how dare you say there's no free will you know God is like an unchallengeable assumption once you throw

09:32God in there it's like oh well the minister said there's free will it's all bull am I I don't know I guess

09:37I can it's all bullshit there's no free will it's keeping the poor down and it's not I'm the defender

09:43of the little people and the champion of the the poor I guess and the defender of the you know people

09:47getting bullied by this and they all try to act smarter than you by saying big fancy words you know

09:53there's no the reason why you don't understand what they're saying is because you didn't study

09:57philosophy and you don't that proves there's no free will if you had free will you would know what

10:01these big fancy words mean so then you guys think oh they're smarter and of course and what they're

10:06doing is they're practicing indirect violence on you they're making you feel bad if you can't succeed

10:10they're making you feel like a failure if you're and it's not true it's just cause and effect and it

10:15wasn't in your dominoes to be successful it's not your fault everybody tries as hard as they can they

10:21can't get anywhere because there's no free will that's what it is it's the game they're playing

10:25and I've cracked the code for for the economically challenge I've cracked the code you're going to lie

10:31to you and say use your free will that's why this issue never seems to come out because as Upton

10:35St. Clair said you can google this Upton St. Clair said that um what did he say that uh

10:42suddenly oh it it is very difficult I almost forgot see if I had free will that wouldn't have

10:48happened it's very difficult you can it is very difficult to get a man to understand something

10:53when his salary depends on him not understanding it Upton St. Clair he was a famous writer in like the

11:00early 1900s he said it is very difficult you can everyone everyone to google Upton it is very

11:05difficult to get a man to understand something when his high salary depends upon him not understanding

11:10it so the people who run the country are keeping everyone down will never admit there's no free will

11:15because they want to take credit for all their accomplishments and they don't want to be robbed

11:20of their high salaries and five-star luxury hotel lifestyles wow because because if Deepak Chopra

11:26would have come out and say you know it's all luck there's no free will then everyone's going to say

11:29well why are you getting paid more than me so he's not going to say that it's very rare that someone

11:33like me who has some money comes out and says there's no free will there's Sam Harris who also

11:39is another guy who says there's no and he's his I don't know I guess I can say his mother's was uh

11:44Susan Harris she did the golden girl she is a very big he comes from a lot of money Sam Harris and he

11:50meditated for years and then he ran went around the world and he meditated you know and he has a PhD

11:55and philosophy and uh Stanford and UCLA and he came out and wrote a book saying there's no free

12:01will it's called free will by Sam Harris the problem is it's in the philosophy section and nobody likes

12:07to go in the philosophy section so I'm trying to make it like a current events topic or a self-help

12:11topic because I don't I don't know if you've ever noticed but if you go to a bookstore and go to the

12:16philosophy section nobody's there so it's getting lost it's getting lost it's getting lost and boring

12:22philosophy when it's really a current events and it's a self-help issue my goodness what what

12:28practical steps can individuals take to embrace this awakening no I mean what is it that we can do

12:33or is there anything we can do yes because if you say to meet yourself well Nick said there's no free

12:39will I'm not going to bother to get out of bed there's nothing I can do I'm going to stay in bed all

12:43day I'm going to play video games smoke pot you know be lazy then then there's no free will but

12:49you're going to have the consequences of that no free will and you're going to lose your job

12:53be homeless be unkept and and and be miserable so you can you can take the fact there's no free

12:59will to put the right steps into becoming successful use cause and effect to your advantage

13:04you can just as easily say well Nick said there's no free will I might as well stay in bed all day but

13:10you can just as easily say there's no free will I need to do cause and effect in a positive way

13:14so I need to shave and shower I need to these are all please take a shower oh please yes take a

13:20shower but you end up getting what you you reap what you sow so it's cause and effect in dominoes

13:27so you got to use this in your favor and really put in the effort like you're not going to win the

13:32lottery unless you buy a lottery ticket you're not going to ace an exam unless you study for it's all

13:36cause and effect so you got to you know really put it logically together you got to try to do things

13:41yeah you can't just use it as an excuse and say I'm not going to try right you have to you know

13:47so the question that I asked in the beginning was if you had the option of three different ways to do

13:54what you want to do right what you want to do you're not forced to do it but what you want to do

13:57so you can say I'm not going to get up out of bed I'm just going to lay here and I'm going to play

14:03my video games all day and I'm not going to take a shower I'm not going to brush my teeth I'm not

14:06going to do it there are causes and effects to that road if you consequences consequences so if

14:12you take the middle road I'm just going to keep doing what I've been doing even though I don't

14:17like it but I'm going to do it because I need to make money there's a cause and effect to that and

14:22then there's the one where you go after your dreams and your goals or whatever you want to do in life

14:26you go that route so there are there are different choices but the choices themselves

14:32has a cause and effect that's going to roll out the same way you're always going to make the choice

14:38that you feel is best for you to do at the time so some people are afraid of being successful and

14:45afraid of making a lot of money for them so though you're still going to do whatever you can all things

14:50considered with your consciousness with your nature and nurture with how you were raised so not

14:56everybody can be a success because they don't have the they don't have the steps before them

15:01prior to make those steps to be a CEO of a company they're going to say well if you work hard and try

15:07really hard and and get into the right college and but some people just aren't first of all you're not

15:13in control of how smart you are or how intelligent you are so right off the bat you know you can't

15:18control your consciousness and and what you your brain state is so you're saying do you know do the

15:25greater things but you may not it may not be available to you you're taking the options

15:28the best option you can to seek and seek out the most overall life satisfaction for you so some

15:35people it might be a low stress job where they don't want to get paid a lot that's the best for

15:40them it's different for everybody wow well it's still cause and effect definitely definitely so okay

15:50so given the radical nature of this but what i don't like about what i just want to say what i don't

15:54like about free will is the religious people taking them what i call the moral superiority thrill

15:59ride because they'll look at someone like who i mean i don't want to offend your uh but a criminal

16:05who commit commits the crime no matter how heinous if you look at it's not their fault and you look at

16:12the prior conditions they had to so the moral superiority thrill ride is someone saying well if i were that

16:18guy i wouldn't have done that he deserves to go to hell for the rest of jail for 100 years the death

16:23penalty and hell for you know they take the moral superiority thrill ride they're saying if i were

16:29he i wouldn't have done that and i'm superior and i'm going to heaven you're going to hell so that's

16:35that's such a horrible thing to put your mind in someone else's life because if you were born

16:40if i were born yaya diamond i would be you and if you were born nick vale you would be me and you

16:45would have written this book and it would have been easy for you to write this book because it's just

16:48meant for me so if i were hitler i would have been hitler if i were mother teresa i would have

16:53been mother teresa if i were jesus it if you can't put your mind in someone else's life and say

16:58well if i were he i wouldn't have done that it's so such a horrible thing it's such a mistake it's

17:03so disgusting it's oh it's indirect violence to say well you know he's going to hell because i would

17:09have you're putting your mind in his his or her life and it's very wrong and it's terrible it needs

17:14to stop and it needs to stop right now that you know thanks to you i know and i never thought

17:20about that i never really did that i never said if i were that person i would because i don't want

17:24to be that person i i don't want to know what it feels like to want to or have to do that or be

17:31prompted to do that or choose to do i don't want to be that person i you know in this life when you

17:37look at a when you look at a criminal do you say well if i were her i wouldn't have done that but

17:42you're not her if you were her you would have done it right or him i yeah because i would have been

17:47there here's the kicker that you would have their obviously genetics visit you know physical being

17:52you would have their nature and nurture but what always gets left out is you wouldn't you would

17:57you they would have you wouldn't have their soul or spirit they have their soul or spirit and no one

18:01gets to freely consciously choose what soul or spirit so i can't take credit for the fact that i don't

18:08have the soul or spirit of a psychopath i i can't you know it's you don't get to consciously choose

18:14because they always say well nick you're only talking about the material world they have a

18:18soul or spirit and that's you know that's but you wouldn't the criminal has their soul or spirit

18:23they don't have yaya's soul or spirit and they didn't get to freely consciously choose when they

18:27were born what their soul or spirit is so that's another thing yeah no i never said that and i won't

18:33and i and i tell people i i i don't want to know i don't want to know what it feels like i don't want

18:40to know i don't want to i'm not judging nobody yeah but i'm sure i'm sure you've told someone

18:45well that person's going to rot in hell forever no no good good for you never said that because

18:50that is not that's not that's not my role i am not the judge nor the jury if i was a juror and they

18:58were in if they were in the trial how can there be a jerk how can there be a judgment day without

19:03free will there's no heaven or hell it's ridiculous there you go i i literally talk i'm talking about

19:08like the judicial system if i was a jury or a judge that's okay that's different right it'll still be

19:15me trying no no we gotta care i don't want people to that's a good we gotta keep society safe you

19:21can't go in front of a judge and say i was i listened to yaya nick and there's no free will

19:25and no the judge gonna say i also don't have free will and i have no choice but to put you away

19:30because i need to deter others and my job and i have no choice i agree there's no for you but i have

19:34no choice but to keep society safe and you're you out there man mr out there are going to make

19:39society unsafe so i have no choice but to put you away so that that that doesn't work no that's

19:44that's pragmatic blame that's superficial but i'm talking about the deep true level of reality

19:50there's no free will we're all fundamentally innocent like perfect angels even the worst

19:55criminal is a perfect angel on the truest most fundamental nature of reality reality the deep the

20:01deepest right so i was going to ask you um so all right so given the um the radical nature of

20:09this insight and i want to make sure that i'm saying it's right what do you foresee as potential

20:13changes or resistance from those who are deeply rooted in the belief of free will well the resistance

20:20is going to be every successful person with money who's in a company saying of course just free will

20:25i earn this five-star uh lifestyle uh hotel lifestyle and we're going to raise our hand and

20:31say we know there's no free will don't you think there should be some sort of system where the income

20:36inequality goes away or at least as much you know like closer where no one's making that much more

20:41than anyone because if it's all luck and all fate it's so unfair that some most people you know the

20:47people who believe in free will are all going to say well i i i i don't want to lose my uh my my per you're

20:54robbing me of my personal accomplishments by saying it's you're saying there's no me that i didn't do

20:58anything i went to harvard i went to yale law school i ran i started a company i heard i'm a dentist i'm a

21:04doctor i'm a lawyer i'm very sick and how dare you try to take that away from me and when i say wait a

21:08second you were lucky to be that smart you were lucky to have parents who pushed you you were lucky

21:12you know that you were able to be hard working it's not my fault i'm not hard working i just don't

21:16have you know and they're going to fight you every second of every day that of course there's free will

21:20and you're being lazy and that's why you don't deserve anything um there's going to be and also

21:24the resistance is i i agree that this coming out is a little stressful because to understand that

21:32you're not in control of your own life i do understand the other side that it's very stressful

21:37to think that but on the other hand you don't have to the positives first of all it's the truth so

21:43the positive of the truth you know we should be a society that you know like henry thoreau said

21:48rather than love money and fame give me truth so even if even if i'm kind of screwing up society

21:54a little bit we need to deal with reality on the truth and then we'll deal with it and then

21:58maybe future generations can figure out what see i'm just trying to i'm not trying to actually win

22:04the argument right now i'm just trying to bring awareness that this debate needs to happen in

22:08public and then we can decide but i think the people who have money are gonna have to be taxed a

22:13hell of a lot more to give to the people who don't have the money i'm talking about 80 taxes

22:19to make it an even you know you can still have the good jobs and have the status but you're going to

22:24be taxed a lot more to give to the poor people because there's no free will and not only that like

22:30i said to you before a universal basic income where everybody gets a check every month based on how old

22:35you are so as you get older because like i said it's kind of depressing to know there's no free will

22:40you might want to commit suicide sale but no if you're going to get more money every year

22:45no no if you're going to get more money every year for just staying alive then society will

22:50acknowledge there's no free will we're going to just as you get older you know when i go out to

22:54dinner and stuff i sometimes feel badly for a waiter or waitress not by race or religion i feel bad

22:59depending on what their age is so if i have an older guy service you know being in a low position in

23:07life or an older woman i kind of feel bad for them i think it should be more based on age so the

23:12younger you are you know i think you should be filling in your role for society you know and

23:16then as you get older you'll get the universal basic income will be raised every year and then

23:20you won't have to work a demeaning job i think it should be based on age that's just me you're

23:24gonna say i'm crazy but whatever no actually i mean you know that's fine by me i understand i i totally

23:30don't like that way you're motivated without free will you're motivated to keep living you're

23:34going to get more money because you're going to honor and respect the fact that uh just living

23:40is you should be rewarded so anyway you never you didn't ask me why i called it the celestine

23:44prophecy that's what i wanted to get into well yeah definitely tell me about because that was

23:48pretty much my next question your next question so i don't know how old you are but in 1993 a book

23:55came out called the celestine prophecy okay it was a book that was um my book is self-published but

24:01the celestine prophecy was the number one best-selling self-published book like of all

24:06time and then many years later i think 50 shades of gray knocked it off but it was like this huge

24:12wildly successful book and it said that there was going to be an emerging cultural spiritual away

24:18that was a prophecy okay and it said there was going to be a huge spiritual awakening coming soon

24:24but it never said what it was and then and oh do you know the book let me ask you the question

24:31because i want to make sure that you know the question too because i i was i had this written

24:35down and it says looking for what is your vision for humanity if the insights from the celestial

24:40prophecy are widely embraced how do you see this affecting global issues like conflict inequality and

24:47uh environmental challenges so when this like i said when this finally gets out we will never

24:55really have wars again we're just going to have to talk it out and say what's the cause

24:59right your domino why do you feel i mean it's so much easier to bomb somebody than to ask them

25:05what what is the problem what's how were you raised what's the cause what's your causality what's

25:10your nature what's your nurture then we're going to have to discuss like what's fair and just you know

25:16talk it out but the the thing that's really going to affect this like i keep saying is that

25:20this is going to promote a universal basic income by age because by by the way uh yeah we're about 50

25:27years to 100 years ahead of ourselves this is not happening in our lifetime there's too much

25:31free will religion out there against me it's not so the first thing that needs to happen is some

25:37politician or some celebrity is going to have to mention this like at an award show or something like

25:44brad pitt gets up there or leonardo dicaprio somebody says you know i want to thank the

25:50committee for this award but you know i don't there's an issue because they always say issues you

25:55know they always say like transgender and the environment they always throw no one ever says i

26:00want to know why we're not discussing why free will you know we can discuss if free will is an

26:04illusion or not i i feel very lucky to accept this award but i didn't do anything it was all luck

26:09they do they do do that with god but they don't they say you know it's all god it's but they never

26:14say i want the society i want everyone to know there's no free will i just did cause and effect and

26:18i got very lucky and i didn't really do anything and it's just luck let's just so we need a celebrity

26:23or a politician to bring it up so if we're at a debate say for governor or mayor even president

26:30a reporter can just raise their hand and say uh mr trump miss kamala harris is there free will

26:36four i don't know if i'm allowed to curse four fucking words is there free will i don't want to

26:42curse four freaking words four freaking words to change society of course trump will laugh you out

26:48and say of course but at least it'll be out there we need a progressive reporter to say

26:52mr trump and whoever the next candidate is uh it would probably be jd vance but let's go back one

26:58election say it was trump and harris and someone said do you guys i'm just curious so there's an

27:02underground movement a grassroots movement there's a lot of science and you know biology going and

27:07physics saying there's no free will how do you is there free will what can you of course they're

27:12both going to say there is but at least it's out there yeah so in what ways do you see your

27:17insights aligning with or contradicting a current scientific understanding and consciousness of

27:23human behavior i don't see it contradicting any or everybody who studies science and physics and

27:30biology knows there's no free will it's the religions it's religious stuff that says well

27:35god gave free will god made uh adam and eve and then you know in the garden of eden and the story

27:42there's that that they use their free will to eat the apple and they disobeyed god and in order to

27:48true that's one story and then in order to truly love god you have to be free to do so because after

27:53all what kind of love would be if you for if you're forced to love god so you have to have free will

27:58to love god because he wants you to come to him willingly and freely not because you're being

28:03forced that's and and then of course the universe obviously you know there must have been some kind

28:08of free will because there was nothing before that that may or may not be true but that has nothing to

28:12do with a human life how the universe was created has nothing to do with how humans live a hundred

28:17years on earth in a cause and effect way so they bring up uh what you're saying is the thing that's

28:24pro free will is really religion i don't know really anyone in science who can get away with

28:28saying there's free will just anybody who studies it knows that there isn't they've even studied the

28:33brain and see you make a decision before you're consciously aware of it benjamin labet libet put

28:39things on people's heads and said make a decision to tell me when and they saw on a fmdr machine or

28:45something like uh they could see your brain activity that you made the decision like a second before you

28:50were aware of it but i mean that's that's all it's it's such common sense and logic there's no

28:56free will why would anybody be depressed if there was free will you would just choose free to choose

29:01happy thoughts it's got to be more logic than science even yeah i'm probably confusing you i'm

29:08all over the place sorry about that okay so is this like okay so question it's just maybe it's a stupid

29:14question maybe it's not i don't know but can this be kind of intertwined with quantum physics

29:20okay so quantum physics is what they call indeterminism now i want to tell you that

29:27there's either determinism which is cause and effect or indeterminism which is randomness which

29:33is in quantum physics supposedly or or some combination of both but if everything is determined

29:39there's no free will if everything is indetermined meaning random like in quantum quantum physics

29:44and you know quantum mechanics there's no free will and if there's some combination of both

29:49there's no free will and i just want the world to know that there are there's a guy named brian green

29:54who's a physicist and he said that quantum physics does not prove anything other than probabilities and

30:00probabilities arise from underlying cause causality so like you might think something's random but it's

30:07not like for example if you play craps at a table in the casino you think okay you're getting one

30:13one and one and those are all like the the sweat on your hand the paint on the dots the air the

30:18humidity the angle you throw it there's there's a cause like a lot of calculations and a lot of

30:23mathematics involved to why it becomes a five or a six it's not just random it's all it's a huge

30:28mathematical the how it bounces how bouncy the bounces there's it's there's just too many numbers to

30:34calculate but but it isn't it isn't random it's still so i don't believe in like quantum physics

30:40or indeterminism i believe that quantum mechanics has underlying causality causing the probabilities

30:47to be what they are it's nothing random but but even if it were purely random that's not free will

30:53either that's true if you woke up if you woke up tomorrow and randomly decided to take the bus instead

30:58of drive how can you say that yaya is using her free will to take the bus tomorrow when it's when

31:04your neurotransmitters on a quantum level just randomly chose your behavior for you and made

31:11i was getting a call that okay i got rid of it okay does that make sense yeah i mean you know

31:26to me it's like can you hear me yeah a lot of people use quantum physics to salvage free will

31:33you make a very good point they say everything's not cause and effect that you so so quantum mechanics

31:39is random that doesn't that doesn't help them in fact it hurts it's a terrible argument the very bad

31:44argument well that's why i wanted to know because a lot of people would throw quantum physics in there

31:49and a lot of people would throw causality in there and they'll cause an effect and all of this and

31:53and what else is there there's all kinds of different things you know you're thinking you are and

31:57there's all kinds of different things but there is to me only certain things that you can choose

32:05and those outcomes are already pretty much predetermined like you said if you decide not

32:11to brush your teeth then your predetermination is your teeth are gonna rot you're gonna have a funky

32:16breath ain't nobody gonna be around you okay just stay home a lot of people tell me well there's no

32:22free will why a lot of people say if there's no free will why do you by the way my face is frozen

32:26here for some reason i don't know they say why why okay so if you're gonna cross the street and it's

32:33all predetermined why bother to look both ways and i'm like because we have no choice but to seek

32:39pleasure and avoid pain and i have an uncontrollable desire to not want to get hit by a car so why bother

32:46bothering comes about causally like everything else i'm bothering to look both ways because i have an

32:51uncontrollable desire to seek pleasure and avoid pain and that uncontrollable desire is to not get

32:56hit by a car so i'm gonna look both ways i'm gonna you know bother to do that i am gonna bother to

33:02shave and shower and and and try to go to work because i i'm bothering because i want a better

33:08outcome it doesn't make any sense when people say well you don't believe in free will why why do you

33:13look both ways before you call you you're either gonna get hit by the car or not that that causality

33:18is in there because it trumps you know i don't want it's part of your causality to look both ways

33:24because you have no choice but to seek a better outcome for yourself that's why yeah definitely

33:29i don't know why this is so confusing to people i really don't you know i think because of the

33:35indoctrination of a lot of different things people don't realize that there is a cause and effect to

33:43every decision and you don't need to reinvent the wheel it's already done it's already when you say

33:50indoctrination you're implying religion they brainwash you they propagand you every world religion

33:55every major world religion believes in free will it's like the foundation of everything in the western

34:02culture and it's just propaganda and brainwashing and they and also they use the card the god card well

34:10god gave you free will and they act like it's an unchallengeable assumption and that's it is

34:16challengeable and it is an assumption it's wrong and we need to all come together as a species and

34:21understand we don't have free will and let's figure out what to do about it because i myself don't know

34:26i like i said at the beginning of the show i'm really not trying to win this argument with you

34:29i'm trying to bring awareness yeah to the top definitely so what what message would you like to

34:35convey to the readers or the listeners today about their maybe their skepticism and the implications

34:41of no free will insight how can they begin to explore their ideas and their lives on their own

34:48any political debate if it's like a town hall they need to ask the question we need to get it

34:55somehow out in the open it's been in it's you know these transgender issues and suicide and even

35:02pornography on the internet all the time and i saw the erectile dysfunction out of you know all

35:07these others previously taboo subjects are coming out in the open but this one i i mean we need like

35:13i said we it just never gets out of it's on the internet all over the place you can go on google

35:18and youtube put in this free will and illusion it's all over the place we need a celebrity we need a

35:23problem we need us i mean i'm just a person by the way i'm not a philosophy student i'm just a regular

35:27person which gives me an advantage in this because i can see clearly and i'm not biased about

35:31anything but we need somebody to get on cnn or some channel and and have a debate with the

35:37cleric and the rabbi and the muslim guy and the politician and deepa chopra and you and me and

35:42regular and just just debate it but like i said they don't want to because people in high salaries

35:49don't want to debate this because they don't want to lose their money because once they start to

35:52realize there's no free will we're going to come after them and say why are you making so much more

35:56than everybody you're not you didn't do anything you just got lucky so that's what we're up against

36:01i gotcha what was your question i don't even remember what you said so the question was

36:07yeah so what message would you like to convey to the readers who may be skeptical about the

36:13implications of no free will in sight how can they begin to explore this in their lives with their own

36:19ideas so if i had a free will i wouldn't have interrupted you so much by the way um

36:23to keep it the number one thing is to keep an open mind there are two sides to every story it's

36:28time for the no free will side to uh come about and my advice would be to keep a detailed journal

36:35of your day be very aware of what it's like for you to be you notice when you go to the bathroom when

36:41you need to think about it like you just did it automatically notice when you just started eating

36:45when you didn't have to make a decision uh just keep a very detailed journal of cause and effect in your

36:51life become very aware of what you're doing and why you're doing it and you'll see that you're just

36:56a robot and you're not in control of what you're saying or doing and it's just a surreal thing you'll

37:01surprise yourself like oh i didn't even know i was going to do that like you just it's just it's very

37:06surreal it's like uh just just keep an open mind and keep a journal and just keep your awareness up

37:12and also be mindful that other people also don't have a free will so what's their background what's

37:19their who who taught them what what did their mother tell them what are they why are they the

37:22way they are they are who they are because of who they are and they didn't freely choose who they

37:27were and that includes their soul and spirit some people don't just give me the material argument

37:34because you're going to say well we know there's no free will in your physical body but you have a

37:39soul and spirit you didn't get to freely choose that's not that's not a that doesn't rescue free

37:44will saying there's a soul and spirit some people say that we're living in the matrix what do you

37:49think well i never saw the movie but i read this thing that some guy and some philosopher i think

37:56nick bolstrom or something says we're living in a simulation right or matrix and you know if there's

38:01no free will that means we're robots and it's i mean i know reality's real and it's not fake but it

38:08does sometimes feel like we're in a simulation or something like when i look on the street right now i have a

38:12window i'm like looking at all these robots and people thinking they have free one i think it's

38:16kind of funny but in a way it could be the you know i know i know it's like the matrix was like

38:21a computer game or something inside the world i don't know i never saw that was that what it was

38:25something like that i mean it was like they were living inside of their bodies inside of a like a shell

38:31i think reality is real and free will is an illusion but i could see why people could say this is all just

38:36a big simulation because we're all just robots puppets i like to use the word robots better but

38:42you know we're all just without free will it makes me think it could be a simulation it's not

38:48that crazy i mean it sounds crazy but it's not when you think about it right now it's one puppet

38:53talking to another on one robot talking to another so yeah i hear you wow wow well you may ask what

39:01you may you may be asking what's controlling the strings what the puppet is the puppet is controlled

39:06by seek pleasure avoid pain that's the operating system that's the program we're running seek pleasure

39:11and avoid pain so even if you are seeking overall more and more overall life satisfaction you know

39:18like because sometimes you do self-loathing but that's because you're trying to punish yourself

39:23so you can get more satisfaction in the future so you don't always see you seek pleasure and avoid pain

39:29in the long run but in the short term you might have to have uncontrollable uh bad emotions because

39:33you're trying to you know condition yourself for the future where you don't make that same mistake

39:38wow there's just so much here there just there's so much there's so much that we can say so much

39:44more i want to thank you so much nick for being on the show i appreciate it all right that we're

39:49talking about is written by nick val val big nick vale right i was getting ready to say value

39:54again you know because it just sounds so good nick value it just sounds so good but nick vale

40:00nick vale and well in spanish speaking countries they call me mr bale because the v v is

40:07yeah yeah that's right it's there it's there nick vale and his book is called the celestine prophecy

40:15fulfilled i want to thank you guys so much for tuning in if the qr code is on there but also his

40:21instagram is free underscore will underscore is underscore and underscore illusion so free will

40:29is an illusion go ahead and follow him on instagram as well as go check out that book the qr code is on

40:35the screen and you can go ahead and go and check it out there as well i want to thank you guys so much

40:40for tuning in don't forget to dare to be different and please please live your lives don't don't just

40:47throw it all away because there is some satisfaction in living the repercussions of your decisions i

40:55should say that cause an effect in a positive way cause there you go in a positive way all right

41:01guys until next time don't forget to dare to be different bye

41:04thank you for watching

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