Musician John Consalvo releases new music

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00:00hey guys what's up i got john on the show welcome back hold on a second john i have to get you out

00:18of here but i want people to see you but hold on a second i want to say that john is working so

00:23hard on his music this is not the first time that i have seen him this year and i guarantee you it

00:29will not be the last time i see john because john is working so hard and i want to congratulate you

00:34i see your shine john i see your shine i see it shines brighter than the stars

00:44lighting up the top no matter how far i see john shine i see you shine john go with your good self

00:53brother how you doing i'm doing all right how about yourself i'm excited to have you on the show of

00:59course likewise excited to be here it's good to see you man tell me what has been going on since

01:06the last time we spoke yeah the last time we spoke we were actually talking about the the first uh

01:12signal off this album called alone and um the the album was coming out you know shortly thereafter

01:19and so um we launched the album you know mid-february and over the past few months uh

01:25just uh a lot of opportunities a lot of conversations um some good fanfare uh between

01:32the album and some other things that we're working on and so it's a true blessing over the past few

01:37months been very busy uh but it's been been pretty awesome my gosh my gosh so okay so now which album

01:44is this for you or which project should i say is this for you what this would be my this would be my

01:49fourth album and um the uh the previous two albums were um you know all of my albums are somewhat

01:57concept albums with previous two albums into the apocalypse part a and part b were contemporary rock

02:02albums that told one complete story uh pretty much about the end of the world but if you listen to all

02:08the songs individually you can get one thing out of it you listen to them collectively you'll you'll kind of

02:13piece together the whole story and so for this album this is album number four voyage on soulmate seas

02:19and um this is also a story album cover to cover similar thing to where if you listen to most of

02:25the songs individually you know you you'll you could just hear it as the song but what's really cool is

02:31if you listen to it cover to cover like folks would do you know back in the old days you can actually

02:36start pick piecing together an entire story where you're following someone's journey throughout which is

02:41you know i love to do that is so cool i love that i love when there's a lot of thought put into

02:49the entire project from beginning to end how did you do that did i mean did the songs come in sequential

02:55order or were they kind of out and random and you had to put them in order how did that happen you know

03:01they did not come in sequential order um some of them actually came you know years back and some of them

03:08uh came and in a bunch right so i think um like i'll use it alone for example uh that's when i wrote

03:18many years ago uh but i wasn't sure what to do with it and then when i started to work on it um at the

03:26same time that i was writing some new material and i was like you know what this all seems to fit well

03:31uh into a story let me put pen to paper and see what you know how this could work out and it actually

03:38started to to fit like a glove to where we could put together one whole story that a lot of folks can

03:45identify with with you know 12 or so tracks that i think everybody can identify with one way or another

03:52wow wow that is so cool so it's not just you that would i mean i mean there's more people so i do the

04:00writing right so i you know i you know words and music and are written by me i sing i play guitar but you know

04:07i have uh tyler mays who produced the album he also plays bass keyboards some guitars just brilliant prodigy

04:14kayla got um plays drums uh on it so the same same tandem that i worked with on the previous two

04:20albums you know we have uh you know had a couple of uh you know uh guests appear on this album mainly

04:27julia olsen in um who has two main pieces in uh the songs every second i am why but uh overall you know

04:35when you're working with a bunch of people you want to give them the freedom to be creative uh as well to

04:42bring out the best in your song so you'll you'll hear me reference we a lot um because it's truly

04:48a team effort um when when you start bringing people in the mix right now we're looking at your

04:54album now and i wanted to find out which i mean okay so you named each one right but you when you

05:01named each one what was the purpose behind the names i mean because you said it is a story so it goes

05:06from beginning to end tell me about this tell me about the stories what are we looking at

05:11yeah um so for this album in general right you see it's it's titled you know voyage on soulmate seas

05:19the idea behind this album is um in a nutshell it's about somebody trying somebody going through

05:27life trying to find their soulmate right i i think um you know we often think so you know if you think

05:35that we have a soul right we often think that we're we have we're bodies with a soul but we don't

05:39necessarily look at it that we're really souls with a body right and so okay um and so that you

05:45know when you think about your life right you think about the people you've met uh uh the i think it's

05:52you know there are certainly some people in our lives where we may have met them after five minutes

05:57we feel like we've known them forever and other folks we've known for maybe 20 plus years and no

06:02matter what you do you can't get along no matter what right there's no explanation for that right it's

06:07just right it you know it is what it is and so i i look at this and say okay i i think everyone to a

06:15degree can identify with being alone everybody can identify with searching for someone to you know

06:22quote unquote complete them uh or what have you and what does that look like what does that journey look

06:27like and so when i i sat down i had written some songs based on some experiences but i really put pen to

06:34paper and said you know you know what does the journey look like and in this case you know this

06:39journey goes from dreaming of finding you saw me to you know then going you know meeting the wrong

06:47person and getting involved in the wrong person i think we all can identify with that to some degree

06:53and then saying you know what when when you're out of that i'm just going to better myself i'm going to

06:58figure it out myself but sometimes that's even worse because oh you know you made this you're the one

07:02that made the mistakes in the first place and then it's like um then you're like you know what when

07:08it's all said and done you say you know i'm just gonna wait for the right person and you know while

07:13i'm bettering myself but when you're waiting there's still some pain there's still temptations there's

07:17still trials and tribulations on that to where emotionally you might hit rock bottom you know and

07:23you're basically just you know you know you know praying out to god like do you hear me you know and i

07:29and i think people can take this whether it's looking for a soul mate or looking for a purpose

07:33in life or just trying to get to the next rent payment you know and you know you get to that

07:41point where you're just like you know god do you hear me it's almost like rock bottom and then you

07:46know then there's a reveal right and then and that's really the idea behind this album is like we we go on

07:53this journey where you you it's called voyage and soulmate seas and it actually starts out with

07:58a narration piece the first song called it's not even a song it's a spoken word poem called passing

08:04the torch and it goes from basically it's an older captain you know passing on the ship to someone he's

08:11been mentoring forever and you're following this person throughout and they take the advice from this

08:16captain is hey if you know if i could tell you one thing based on all of my experiences don't sail the

08:23seas alone and and this person is trying to find that advice follow that advice find that right person

08:31and you're going through many many many years of this person's trial before they get there

08:37and um which again i think if you listen to any any of the songs by themselves you'd be like

08:43oh this is a this is a cool song maybe there's a cool hook i identify with this a little bit but

08:47when you listen to them in order beginning to end it tells a pretty cool story nice nice what kind of a

08:55journey did you go on when you when you were doing this i mean i i understand the concept but the concept

09:03itself can take you on a journey especially writing it and especially since the first song is not really a

09:10song so tell me about this what was the decision to make it like this yeah um so i think once we got

09:18to a place what's that you know once i had decided you know we're going to do something with alone and

09:25then i had written like i said several songs after i was like these these all tie together when you're

09:30writing a lot of songs at the same time you usually hit with this a similar um inspiration and

09:36you know i had i've had some conversations with with different folks um i've had some experiences

09:44in my past where i've dealt with some of this but you know i had i had some conversations with some

09:49folks who were really trying to find their purpose in life or um get out of their own way or even find

09:55their that soulmate right and i i remember um you know talking with you know an individual who was just

10:03you know telling me that hey i've been i've been waiting for god's perfect will in my life you

10:08know to you know find that that right person and um and that and that's all i want but then she followed

10:15up with you know i want god's perfect will as long as and once you say as long as then you no longer want

10:24god's will you you you want your will you want him to conform to you right and it really got me to

10:29start thinking like you know what there's there's some deep journeys out there right and i and i

10:34started to uh talk with some others and as i was writing more songs i was like you know what this

10:39this is an album i think that needs to be made where where folks truly you know on you know one and

10:45you know i think true folks want to listen to songs or want to know that someone else is going through

10:50what they're going through if that makes sense right so when you hear some of these songs um like you

10:55know i had talked about alone or are you know every second which is the the song that's getting a lot

11:02of buzz now um you know or you know that where that's you know more about like you're you're you're

11:10you feel like you're in something that might be too good to be true right or um we have another song

11:15another song on there called i am why which stands for i miss you right where you you might be in a

11:19situation where you're just always missing a person but they're gone right it's an old relationship or

11:25um it's someone you can never get in touch with um or you know i'd say the deepest song on the album

11:30is probably you know show me how to live which is really like a heartfelt prayer like um like like god

11:37i've done everything i could think of i've tried to follow you i tried to do the right things and um but

11:44i'm finishing last here and i'm i'm i'm in this place you know you know you know help me there so i think

11:51in just my the my historical experiences in the past some of the things that i i've encountered you

11:57know recently and talking with some other folks it just felt like the right time to put an album like

12:02this um when i think about the previous albums right the the into the apocalypse albums part a part b

12:10that literally was you know me saying okay let me find a person create a character and we're going to

12:16follow their journey through basically what you know the the basically the book of revelation but

12:23if you could if you could take you could follow someone's journey the book of revelation but put

12:26together like 20 or so pop rock songs in the process to do it um it's it's quite interesting to do

12:35but i felt like when we did that that that was it was the right time to put something like that out

12:40um to where you know it's uh it's this it's exciting there's some catchy hooks there's some depth

12:48but i think the big you know i might have talked about this a little bit last time i think right now

12:53the biggest epidemic that's out there in the world is loneliness and i was like you know i need to put

12:59something out i mean i need i felt the need to write something that that was authentic for folks to be

13:05able to say you know what um i'm in this space i want to hear this um yeah i've gone through this

13:11and um and and hopefully it touches somebody i think so you know i think it will you know you're

13:18right one of the biggest epidemics right now is loneliness you know it we're not meant to be alone

13:25we are meant to have uh you know friends and and husbands wives sisters brothers mothers fathers

13:33cousins aunties uncles you know what i mean like that nucleus and it's been it's been known that

13:39music helps you live longer as well as camaraderie you know having friends to hang out with it helps

13:45you live longer as well as certain foods and things like that but i love the fact that music is kind of

13:51like that universal language that we all speak let me ask you a question though have you ever thought

13:56about putting your music into a book uh yes um it's it's interesting that you bring that up so

14:04it's twofold right because i i do have a couple of novels we've released so there there's certainly

14:10been some some thought there um but i would say like the into the apocalypse albums uh one of the

14:16things that's on my radar is i'd love to put those into a become a graphic novel because we do have a

14:22story that's totally mapped out and maybe something similar here with voyage and soulmate seas and so

14:30like i i i love that idea i do too i do too i think it would be really really cool to have it um you

14:37know kind of narrated and then you know by the book by the music you know what i mean like like you know

14:44both of them kind of come hand in hand this is beautiful though i love the the way that you've

14:49you've patterned this you've done this like continually always had a storyline what would

14:55be the next storyline if you had to guess in sequence like your first one your second one

15:01your third one what would be the sequence by which you're going or do you have one at all

15:07um so we do have we do have one that's uh that that i would say is in the mix it um

15:14um they i'd say toying around with a couple of ideas but um one of the ideas and you know without

15:23going into a lot of detail is the idea of fame right and um i think especially you know and you've

15:32grown up in the business you know i grew up in a musical family um you you grow up with you know the

15:39you know it's almost like this expectation that that that you're you're to become something and

15:44you you you to achieve this level of of fame and we see it on tv and what have you but there's a flip

15:52side of that right there's the there's the the there's almost like a a nightmare scenario or even down

15:58to like if i either take away the current events you know what's the old i forget the artist but you know

16:04what's this the old song look what they did to my song right that's not you know like that the the

16:09old ways where you know you might write something and the producer would come in and just say look

16:14we're going to change this entirely which you know may or may not be a good thing but that that's the

16:20idea it's like you you go in and you you you might be someone going in uh but you're someone totally

16:26different coming out and so that that's something that uh i i've i've been toying with as far as you

16:31as far as you know could that be the next storyline that we put together for an album if not for this

16:36one or the next one coming out maybe the following but uh because i i just i think there's a lot there

16:42too to where you know when um i think you and i talked last time we know when david's writing the

16:48psalms you know he's not writing it you know to to make clive davis happy you know when david is

16:56writing the psalms they're just coming from his heart now i'm sure many years later he's got a lot of

17:01royalties to collect um from all the folks that have used his songs but i think that's the idea

17:06is like hey oh when we're writing it should come from the heart no matter what right and fame should

17:11be secondary all that other stuff should be secondary i know it sounds crazy but the the joy of writing

17:18you know is um like you listen to i tell folks you listen to those old like billy joel's albums from

17:24like the 70s there you know when he's a starving artist and i'm saying man you can feel that yeah

17:29you you you can feel it right and um and this is there's just power there right and so i think

17:38i i want to you know that's something that we're talking about like maybe maybe there's something on

17:42there on the road to fame like what what choices do you make to lose your authenticity to almost lose

17:48your soul to get there um and what's the journey back look like yeah definitely definitely do you

17:55think that you know the music industry is going through a real rough moment at this time um there's

18:01a lot of things coming out in the open which i am very happy for very happy for it let it come out in

18:05the open because you know we've been saying it and shouting it from the treetops and nobody's been

18:10listening all these years but um it's going through a moment where there's a transition people who

18:15who are true who are really true to their craft giving you uh genuine music are coming out on top

18:23right now um what do you think about the music industry in let's say five years where do you think

18:30we're headed you know i i i've been thinking about this a little bit and i am i think to your point

18:39right especially in the tick tock world and you know instagram and all of that youtube there's never

18:47been a time when there's an avenue for the uh you know the songwriter that doesn't have the connections

18:54or is not selling out or whatever and they just want to do their thing i think that that that part is

19:01is tremendous and my hope is that we're able to continue to build on that um my concern is twofold

19:09it's a copycat league right everything is copycat so i think you know that you know i worry that

19:16eventually you might get like your major corporations that are over these groups like like tick tock or

19:22youtube or even like groover and other places that will say hey we're you know you see it a little bit

19:29right with the algorithm i'm sure you got to deal with that um you know here and there where they're

19:33like hey um not really sure we want this one out there let's let's let's pull this back i worry about

19:39that um i also worry about ai i worry that you're going to start to have more and more you know

19:46musicians that could be marginalized by like ai out there like it's like um somebody told me recently

19:54they were like hey i could tell ai hey write me a song like jonathan sawa would write it and it'll spit

19:59it right out oh yeah five years from now that's going to be scary yeah yeah i think so i think so

20:05but i think that they're getting a handle on it because um you cannot copyright any ai songs that's

20:12right so and the ai right now um some of the ai um sites are actually claiming their songs now

20:22so that's very interesting i think that that is a very interesting twist to it all where it's it's

20:30you can use it it's not a it's not a stride to you um but you it's starting to be that you cannot

20:37monetize it that the monetization of the song is going to go back to the ai company that developed the

20:44song in the first place so to me that would be optimal because that's just a symbolism as to okay i

20:52wrote a song i should be the one getting the monetization on it so if it's my ai i developed

20:58it doesn't matter if you put a word in there or two or whatever you know it still belongs to the

21:05company you know so if it does depend it does depend i mean you know they'll get it right i'm

21:11i'm not sure that i'm scared of it more so that it should be used properly that's right like writer's

21:19block or something what do you think about this what do you think about using ai properly what

21:23would be your optimal way of using it if you had a writer's block or if you just needed some new

21:30fresh ideas yeah so i i how i would look at it is i think like a healthy way to use ai would be um

21:39um and i don't know maybe i'm not maybe i'm not sure i don't know about writer's block per se but i

21:46how i would um i would probably use ai and say okay um here's an idea i have or here's some lyrics i

21:55have um how did this make you feel right you know whether let's say you're talking to chat gbt you know

22:01for example and the response to that might be you know this feels great or this feels mundane or this

22:09feels this almost like if it's if you're hiring a producer to say what do you think i think that's

22:15a healthy way of using it um i think it becomes a gray area when when it's like hey um the lyrics are

22:24okay would you like me to change the lyrics to make them more you know you know you know you know

22:32popular for today's market or for a younger market or for an older market or what have you um then it

22:38becomes a gray area because you still want to retain your voice um and so i think you know using

22:45it for like things like punctuation or whatever is fine but i i'm curious how far you know we can go

22:52i will say though you know to your your your question i i do like that i see more vinyls

22:59out there than i have seen in many years right i think that's pretty cool i think so too i think

23:04it's great and then i i also think that and maybe because it's summer but i i think if you remember

23:11back in the in the 90s there was this whole like i want to say revolution for a while for almost like

23:17you know for the decade where there was a lot of like unplugged shows and a lot of acoustic

23:21conventions and things like that i i it feels like that that could be coming back and that

23:26i i think that there's always an authenticity you know with that which is really cool that is really

23:32cool that is really cool and and let's go back a little bit to to the ai you know i think that a

23:37lot of people don't realize that you can't use those lyrics the way they are so if you if you get a

23:42lyric and you say hey i need you to write me a song you write a song you can use it personally

23:47personally okay i'm gonna i'm gonna record a song i'm gonna give it to my mom okay we'll record a

23:52song i'm gonna give it to my husband okay these are things and you know you can even have it framed

23:56yeah the ai came up with some great lyrics or whatever but when it comes to like coming up with

24:00lyrics for you for your song i think that you know for me personally i think that the idea would be great

24:07but it's never gonna to me it's never gonna end up that way you see them saying it's like okay i i got oh

24:14i got the idea it's kind of like a spark that ignites a flame so to me if i use the ai as a spark

24:21to ignite my my flame me personally i think that that's a good way of using it as well i mean what

24:28do you think yeah i i think so i think i think like i said i when you you're working with ai or like

24:38i said ai chat cpt or whatever we're working with when you're working with that and it's able to help

24:43you know embolden the inspiration or or the spark um for you to to to put out the the thing you

24:52actually want to put out and help you put out the the best version of that um i think that that's

24:58pretty healthy the this the step of if it takes over for you and you then you wind up it winds up

25:07being the ai song that you wind up trying to replicate even though it was your original idea that to me

25:12it becomes more of a gray area but if it's like you're using it to you know to generate a spark

25:19and then but you know the the lyrics pretty much you know it's your story it's your your authenticity

25:25but ultimately like you know when you're singing a song the audience will know if it's real or not

25:31oh yeah right so if you're just singing some so you know if you're singing the song that

25:37i hate and looks like ai shout out some cool lyrics i'm not really sure what these mean but

25:41i'm gonna make them sound good that that because that could be pretty fleeting uh over time so yeah

25:47i think but i do think like we talked about being alone right not everybody has somebody around them

25:52that's able to say hey you know what um hey listen to this song like i used to go up to people back in

25:57the day and be like with my acoustic hey can you listen to this give me some feedback and not

26:02everybody has that person in their life so if you you know i think that that could be a healthy way to

26:07use ai and be like hey listen to this tell me what you think and uh and i don't think there's anything

26:13wrong with taking feedback even if it's from a robot yes that's really cool i i like that i think that

26:19way too i think that's that's cool you know you have done so much in the music industry uh you have done your

26:26albums you actually have your your novels out um so you know creation and being a creator is nothing

26:33new to you but for some people that are watching today this might be something new they want to do

26:38it they've never done it what would be your entry level suggestion um my entry level suggestion no matter

26:46what is say yes right that that that it doesn't matter if you're 15 years old or if you're 70 years

26:59old it doesn't matter if you work full-time but you have no job it doesn't it doesn't matter you know

27:04if you have a family or if you're you're solo or whatever if you have a desire and a passion to create

27:12create and it might start with something as simple as you know what i'm gonna write a poem

27:20or i'm gonna write a short story um not sure what that that means right um you know i i think

27:28you know someone asked me one time hey um they they mentioned like what their favorite um nursery rhyme

27:35was and they were like hey can you build me a story on this just for two pages tell me how show

27:39me how it comes out and and i'd say you know have some fun with that right and uh start there if you're

27:46if you're if you want to learn how to play guitar this this this is no better time to do it than than

27:53now there's so many great guitarists like i said on instagram musicians on instagram um you don't need to

27:59you know go touring a lot of clubs or what have you you can which you know it's great but if you're

28:05you know if you're just like hey i i got to i got i gotta you know i have too many kids at home i have

28:11this or that but i want to do something um and if you want to write right whether it's a short story

28:18a poem some lyrics a song um there's opportunities everywhere it might even just be you going on

28:25you know you taking lyrics you wrote popping them on instagram behind a picture and you know what

28:30have you see people doing that all the time there's an opportunity to use your talents better than

28:35ever before and what i've seen so many examples of is folks starting small right he the gathers

28:42things little by little makes them grow and you start small and you you can build and build a little

28:49bit of a follow a little bit of a following um and then before you know it your following's

28:55big you know folks are asking me for more things you you might have companies reaching out to you hey

29:00could could we use this or would you mind doing this but the main thing i can tell you is you you

29:08won't know until you say yes to doing it and um i i i can't stress that enough that if you're if you're

29:16truly want to do it what the worst feeling in the world for me is saying what if no and looking back

29:24and saying oh man what if i would have done that um i i'd rather say you know what um man i tried that

29:33and that i done messed that up i'd rather say that then oh man what if i did that oh man man this guy

29:42over there he did the same thing and look how big he is or look how you know what what came of that

29:48um everyone's got a talent everyone's and if there's something that's burning within you

29:53you know try something take a chance you know um and and the other thing i will say is

30:01you know you know even michael jackson or you know some of the great artists of all time

30:07um in the music business they were laughed at a lot yeah um and this seven trillion was it seven

30:15billion people on the planet right seven seven billion people on the planet yeah um and even if

30:22you just were able to touch dot zero zero zero one percent of those there's still a lot of freaking

30:30people oh yeah and so not everyone's gonna love your stuff take feedback when it's there and understand

30:38that folks are gonna there's always gonna be folks there to tell you hey you know it's not really that

30:43good you have no talent you can't do it you're too old you're too young get to this do that when those

30:49people come into your life you know be grateful because that just that just means that that that

30:54that you're moving forward in the journey right it's like legends the guardians right when he says

30:59when you've flown as far as you can go and yeah you know you've as far as you can go and then you know

31:05and you can't go any further then you're okay because you're halfway there right it's kind of like

31:11that so i would just say number one if you want to get in get in there um and like i said it could

31:16be something as simple as just writing one poem one lyric and let it mean something that it could be

31:22it could mean you know it could be a you know about like the chair you're looking at across the room if

31:29there's something really that paramount or profound that you want to write about but that's personal to

31:34you or it could be around you know a love interest or a memory or something you want to accomplish uh

31:43put it out there and then don't be afraid to let folks hear it they don't need to know what it's

31:46about that's personal to you but you can put it out there yeah definitely wow thank you so much john

31:53for being on the show you know i'm gonna go ahead and tell you guys that i'm gonna put in the link in

31:57the description for voyage on soulmate seas so you guys can check it out for yourself listen to it in

32:02sequence because it is in sequence it is a story from beginning to the end listen to it i mean it

32:09doesn't take anything but time washing your dishes okay uh you know sitting down doing absolutely nothing

32:16which sometimes we absolutely do okay so i need you to go ahead and listen to it listen to the story

32:22see how you relate and if you have any comments or any concerns or anything any questions go ahead and

32:28comment wherever you may be watching there might be a box somewhere around here that you can comment

32:33in and i want to thank you john so much for taking the time out to be on the show today i appreciate it

32:40yes joy as always thank you for having me the joy is mine i hope to see you again i'll see you

32:49yes i love it i love it i absolutely love it i love return guests you know why because it shows

32:54progress you can do it too this is not something that's reserved for people like john this is

33:01something that if you're doing it then you are completely successful and completely succeeding in

33:07life thank you guys so much for tuning in don't forget today to be different and until next time guys bye

33:24thank you

33:39thank you for watching

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