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00:00:00And a very special good morning Trinidad and Tobago and the rest of the world.
00:00:20I'm Alwin Hopkins and as always, welcome to The Morning Edition.
00:00:23It's Friday, 2nd August and thank you very much for joining us this morning.
00:00:26How was your holiday yesterday?
00:00:28I hope it was spent well and that everything went well for you yesterday.
00:00:33You know, a number of statements would have been made at emancipation
00:00:36celebrations yesterday, and we will get to that.
00:00:38However, I have some breaking news for you.
00:00:41Yes.
00:00:41So our sprinter, Michelle Lee Ayi, has placed fourth in her heat, right?
00:00:48At a time of 11.33 seconds.
00:00:51All right.
00:00:51So it was the second heat.
00:00:53Yeah.
00:00:54So again, Michelle Lee Ayi has placed fourth in her heat.
00:00:58All right.
00:00:59At 11.33 seconds.
00:01:01All right.
00:01:02So, studio, I suspect there are more heats to be run today, right?
00:01:06And the best are going to be chosen for the finals.
00:01:08All right.
00:01:11All right.
00:01:12All right.
00:01:13For the semis.
00:01:13And then you have to run heats there again.
00:01:16And two heats to move on to the, to the, to the finals.
00:01:20All right.
00:01:20So we wish Michelle all the best and the rest of the team, all of the best.
00:01:25All right.
00:01:25So let's check out to see what's happening with Daily Express today.
00:01:28So PM takes on reparations fight.
00:01:30CARICOM to forcefully address Commonwealth meeting in October.
00:01:34Leading procession, Prime Minister Dr.
00:01:36Keith Rowley, second from right, is joined by Education Minister Dr.
00:01:39Nian Gadsby-Dolley, second from left, and Minister of Youth Development and
00:01:43National Service Foster Cummings, right, as he leads the procession through
00:01:47downtown Port of Spain to mark Emancipation Day yesterday.
00:01:51So let's get to that story.
00:01:53So Rowley on issue of reparations at emancipation festivities.
00:01:57CARICOM to forcefully speak to Commonwealth.
00:02:00Prime Minister Dr.
00:02:01Keith Rowley says the Caribbean community has taken the decision to
00:02:04forcefully speak to the Commonwealth on the issue of reparations when
00:02:07they meet in Samoa in October.
00:02:10Now the Prime Minister returned from the Commonwealth heads of government
00:02:13meeting in Grenada on Tuesday.
00:02:16All right.
00:02:16So according to the Prime Minister, Dr.
00:02:19Martin Luther King Jr.
00:02:20had said the arc to freedom bends towards justice.
00:02:24We here gathered on that arc.
00:02:27We genuinely believe that it will bend to a point in a day when justice would
00:02:31be recognized by all and it will be handed to those who deserve it.
00:02:37All right.
00:02:40Yes.
00:02:41All right.
00:02:41And also speaking at the celebrations yesterday was UWE Vice
00:02:47Chancellor, Dr.
00:02:48Hilary Beckles.
00:02:50He says the Caribbean is battling a problem of guns and glucose.
00:02:54That's according to Vice Chancellor Sir Hilary Beckles who yesterday
00:02:58emphasized the need to win the war on achieving reparations.
00:03:02So Sir Hilary said there is the problem of crime with young men carrying guns.
00:03:07And there is also a health problem of diabetes where the elderly are suffering
00:03:11from the disease with respect to crime.
00:03:14He said policing alone cannot solve the issue as he spoke to the need for
00:03:18fatherhood and rehabilitation of youths.
00:03:21And Cambon, most people affected by economic change, the economic change in
00:03:25this world are impacting most people in the world, said Emancipation Support
00:03:29Committee Director of Regional and Pan-African Affairs, Khafra Cambon.
00:03:34All right.
00:03:35So we're moving on to some sport again.
00:03:38Carter's Achilles heel, TNT swimmer out early in Olympics 53.
00:03:43Now Dylan Carter has an impressive track record in international and regional
00:03:47swimming, capturing six Central American and Caribbean Games titles,
00:03:52Commonwealth Silver, Pan and Bronze, World Junior Silver, Youth Olympic
00:03:57Silver and Bronze and three medals at the World Short Course Championships.
00:04:02The Olympic Games, however, has been something of a bogey meet for Carter.
00:04:06Now, he closed off his Olympic campaign in Paris, France yesterday with a 29th
00:04:11place finish in the men's 50 meters freestyle.
00:04:15But Trinidad and Tobago swimmer touching the wall six in heat eight in 22.18
00:04:20seconds. Now, the stage doesn't really mesh with my personality as an athlete.
00:04:26Carter told the Express after the race, he said, I do best when I'm having fun
00:04:31and I'm playful and I'm creative.
00:04:33But the Olympics brings all of this intensity that really is my Achilles heel.
00:04:39It's tough. I've got to learn from it.
00:04:42And in the future, find a way to actively be aware of that.
00:04:45The only way I can come to the Olympics and do well is if I'm aware of that and
00:04:50can actively counteract it next time.
00:04:53All right. The words there of Dylan Carter.
00:04:58All right. So we're moving on.
00:04:59So it's time to remind you about Trinbago, a nice feature.
00:05:01Remember to participate.
00:05:03You can email your videos and images to that address there.
00:05:08Yeah, you're seeing it.
00:05:10Trinbago, you at TV6TNT.com.
00:05:14Yeah, that's a new email address.
00:05:16So please make a note of it, because we do appreciate, excuse me, your
00:05:21photographs and your videos.
00:05:23We do have a picture for our viewers this morning.
00:05:27Yeah. Is that the view of some sort of field?
00:05:35All right. So thank you to the person who would have sent that to us this morning.
00:05:39We do appreciate your photograph.
00:05:41Yeah. OK.
00:05:44So do you have your coffee, your tea?
00:05:46There's something to eat.
00:05:47We do have a very interesting program for you today.
00:05:49All right. I'm waiting on you.
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00:07:18Slavery, a terrible time in our history.
00:07:34The kidnapping, buying and selling of people for profit, the exploitation of another human being.
00:07:41It still exists today.
00:07:43It has a new name, human trafficking.
00:07:46Anyone can be a victim.
00:07:49There is forced labor, sexual exploitation and domestic servitude.
00:07:57Human trafficking is a worldwide problem and an emerging concern for us here in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:08:04If you know of or suspect human trafficking activity, call the counter trafficking hotline at 800-4CTU or 800-4288.
00:08:14Human trafficking is a crime.
00:08:17Identify it, report it, stop it.
00:08:20A message from the counter trafficking unit of the Ministry of National Security.
00:08:25Hola, my name is Elena.
00:08:29It's actually not my real name.
00:08:32You don't really care, do you?
00:08:34All you care about is want to pay your money to my boss that I look pretty, smell nice, smile for you and let you have a good time.
00:08:45Enjoying yourself and doing to me whatever you want to do for the money you pay.
00:08:50What you don't see or know is that I don't get any part of the money you pay.
00:08:56My boss takes all of it.
00:08:58I am forced to work, taking as many clients as my boss tells me to.
00:09:04I am beaten, made to take drugs and I cannot leave this kind of work on my own.
00:09:12I am a victim of human trafficking.
00:09:16Please, por favor, help me.
00:09:34To protect your rights, you must fight.
00:09:37Otherwise, troubles move your body.
00:09:40All right. So welcome back, everyone.
00:09:43It's the day after the holiday.
00:09:44So we're glad that we do have you back with us here today.
00:09:48All right. As I said earlier, I hope everything went well with you all yesterday and you enjoyed the holiday.
00:09:53All right. So up for discussion this morning, the Paria diving tragedy and the director of public prosecution's instructions for the police to pursue manslaughter by gross negligence charges.
00:10:03With us this morning is attorney at law and former legal affairs minister Prakash Ramada.
00:10:08Mr. Ramada, good morning.
00:10:11Good morning, good morning, Trinidad and Tobago.
00:10:14Yeah, Mr. Ramada. Yeah, it's always good to speak with you.
00:10:17Well, just to put some context to this, Mr. Ramada represents relatives for the Kurban family.
00:10:25He also is the legal representative for Aaliyah Henry, the daughter of Yousef Henry, who is also one of the victims of of the tragedy.
00:10:38All right. So, Mr. Ramada, thank you very much again for joining us.
00:10:40So what's your reaction to the DPP's instructions?
00:10:46Well, of course, the DPP has ultimate constitutional power to lay charges or withdraw charges, and he has seen it fit to us on investigation by the police, which, you know, is a normal course of events.
00:11:00Many may believe that the evidence that was brought before the commission is sufficient to lay charges that is not accurate.
00:11:07The police themselves will have to do investigations and persons may exercise their right to silence when being interviewed and so.
00:11:15So at the end of that investigation, I hope it's a very wholesome one.
00:11:19The DPP will look at all of the evidence available from those statements and other bits of evidence that may be available to him and then decide whether he will proceed to lay criminal charges and the nature of those charges, what those charges are and against whom.
00:11:32So that's a normal course of events.
00:11:34So it is nothing surprising that he has asked for an investigation properly by the commission of police.
00:11:41Over the past few days, and it's since your news conference and also the pronouncements of the DPP, there has also been a discussion, Mr.
00:11:53Ramada, that the police commissioner should have appointed a police officer to conduct a probe a long time ago.
00:12:02And there's a question now.
00:12:04Why was this delay?
00:12:08That's a matter entirely for the commissioner to answer.
00:12:11It was obvious to everyone, even from the date of the incident itself, 25th of February 2022, when it occurred that the police should have had a very dominant role in how things proceeded.
00:12:23Then there was an accident to begin with, and then men died.
00:12:28And if it didn't happen immediately when the accident was known, certainly when there was the effort to rescue, quote unquote, the police should have been prominent in that.
00:12:38And in the commission of inquiry, that was a question raised as to who gave the authority for members of staff at Tharia to determine whether these men lived or died.
00:12:51So it is a bit shocking to the common citizen like myself that the police had not embarked upon an investigation since then.
00:12:59What I had learned during the period, I think from Monday, this thing occurred on a Friday evening, that there was a heavy police presence and one naturally would have assumed that it would have taken a lead role, not just in coordinating things, but certainly from the investigation to have begun.
00:13:15So that's a question well posed to the commission of police as to why it is only upon the request of the DPP.
00:13:22And to be fair, maybe they have already started.
00:13:25We do not know any investigation.
00:13:27So we need to find these things out because the opacity, that is the lack of transparency in a lot of things that occurred that evening and onwards, need to be lifted and for the country to really see what has occurred.
00:13:40So we will never have a repeat like this again.
00:13:43I thought that the words chosen by the DPP were very interesting words, Mr. Ramada.
00:13:50I don't know if if well, I suspect you'll clear that up for us.
00:13:54But these words, he says, I have identified that the only possible non-regulatory criminal offense which could have been committed as being manslaughter by gross negligence.
00:14:08And he continued that he has advised the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service that it should conduct a criminal investigation so as to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to charge any individual or corporate entity with manslaughter by gross negligence.
00:14:30Well, let me just say up front, the Director of Public Prosecutions is a person who I have respect and admiration for.
00:14:38And that his words are very, very clear.
00:14:41He is saying that he needs evidence and that for persons to be liable for a charge of manslaughter, there must be gross recklessness and negligence where there's a duty to have acted and failed to have acted to prevent the death of someone.
00:14:59So it's quite specific. And then the issue of corporate manslaughter, there's some debate as to whether the country has the authority that is the law provides for the laying of charges for corporate manslaughter.
00:15:10There's debate on this matter, but there is a Criminal Procedure Act that provides for the prosecution of legal entities, meaning companies, in criminal ways.
00:15:22And there's no limitation in my humble view. And of course, it is always up to the DPP to decide, ultimately, and the charges for corporate manslaughter could be laid.
00:15:32Now, I want to make it abundantly clear equally that none of my clients are bloodthirsty. They are not eager for anybody to be prosecuted for the sake of prosecutions as much.
00:15:43But certainly, a message has to be set that you cannot take authority and responsibility and allow persons to die under the law of care without any consequence whatsoever.
00:15:54And we know OSHA has laid charges and those matters are before the court, so we shan't comment on those.
00:16:00But certainly, there must be in the public domain and particular for employers to know that is a very high duty to each and every member of our society, those who are a new employee, the duty of care.
00:16:13And that their consequences are not just sometimes financial, but certainly personal responsibility with criminal consequences, like in everything else. So I look on with
00:16:23with some level of anxiety, though, because, look, we're two years plus into this matter, and it is extremely painful for my clients. And in fact, anywhere I go now,
00:16:34people come up to me, what is happening with this? Have the families been sorted out? What is going to ultimately end? It is a terrible pain we bear.
00:16:42Think of us, members of the public, I as lawyer, but think about the members of the family to have to relive this every single day and compensation certainly has not been sorted out in relation to those persons, and that's an area you may wish to embark upon now, if you wish, as to
00:16:59Of course.
00:17:00as to Harrier's position on this issue. You know, the Commission of Inquiry, the chairman was very robust in his language when he says that this was no accident or act of God.
00:17:16And there is no precedent anywhere, anywhere that we could find, and we look forward to persons who may have precedent to help us with this, that persons are trapped and there's no effort to rescue and they subsequently die.
00:17:29The agony, the pain, the horror of that death itself, many have come up to me and told me that they have grown claustrophobic just thinking about it.
00:17:40So think about those individuals, what happened with them, but think about the families who remain. The agony, the torture, every single day to think of that death.
00:17:50And what could compensate them? It's really not about money as much, but that is how the world works, that compensation must be had.
00:17:57Harrier has taken a view to go on what we call legal tabulism, to ask about the age and the earning capacity and so. It will shock this nation to know, and I ask, what price would you say that the courts would have put on the loss of the expectation of life?
00:18:15It is stunning to know, but a loss of expectation of life, the courts award $25,000 and we need to revisit how we do things, the value we put not just on human life, but on limbs, for instance, a court may award for an amputation of a leg of a working man, $300,000 to $500,000, but yet we see, and I'm not complaining about these things,
00:18:39awards for slander and libel closer to a million dollars. And if this is the case that needs to be taken to the court, so that we could reassess human life, how we treat with our brothers and sisters, ultimately, I imagine we shall have to go to the Privy Council to tell us something very simply, that our awards in Trinidad and Tobago are far too low.
00:19:01And Paria's position to the lawyers, repeatedly, when we have asked for an ex gratia payment without any admission of liability, these are the things that normally, this is how we do things, they are requesting repeatedly for these details, which they could easily have, and yet, putting off the ultimate issue.
00:19:28This is not a legal issue alone. First of all, I keep repeating the point, the courts must be the last resort, not the first option. This is a moral and ethical issue that Paria has the authority through its management and those who have greater responsibility than they, to say, look, sort this out, ex gratia payment, not necessarily tabulated as a mathematical equation, but you would have some grounding on that, of course.
00:19:54You feel that there is a deliberate attempt at all to just draw this matter out as long as possible?
00:20:05I would shudder to imagine that that could be in any human's breast, to want to do that, to let the agony flow. I think it's more of a myopic view. Put it into the hands of lawyers and they run on a track that they are accustomed with, a pedestrian approach, without a humanistic input, and that's the point I'm making here.
00:20:24This is for Paria's management, not for its lawyers. For Paria's governing mind and those who are above them to say, look, sort this matter out. The lawyers, of course, will give advice, but it is the board of directors and its chairman who will make a decision as to how they should proceed on this.
00:20:41Not to be left just to the lawyers and to the insurance companies whose interests might very well be to not pay, but Paria does not have to rely on the payment from its insurance companies. They are a company with tremendous resource, and I do not say that the public purse is to be used with wanton disregard for what is right and proper.
00:21:03We are saying what is right and proper, and we were very, very careful in the number we put forward. Many say it's way too low, because we see TV and we know what the American awards are, as an example, where persons get millions of dollars in for coffee spilling on a lap.
00:21:19And in Trinidad and Tobago, the shocking number for the loss of life. It is really insulting to human dignity.
00:21:29Well, I know that last week at your news conference, you also dismissed statements by Paria that the process was being frustrated by the lack of information from the land and marine contracting services and the legal representatives of the affected families.
00:21:48Since then, has there been any correspondence between you, other attorneys and the other parties, Paria and LMCS?
00:22:00No. In fact, we sent a letter at the end of May, they responded in early June. And in fact, we were in court, Ms. Sarah Larkin and I, on up to Friday evening in the court of justice dealing with both men's compensation again at MCS.
00:22:18But in terms of Paria's approach, we have made it repeatedly and abundantly clear that we are not going to run along the path of what they wish us to, because it's a trap.
00:22:29If, however, they say we reject because we put clearly in our letter, the request for 5 million, so we gave them a number to work with. They have not gotten back to us to say it is rejected.
00:22:40So if it is rejected, we can then move forward to prepare ourselves to go to trial, because they are asking for information that in the normal course of events is what you would do to prepare for trial.
00:22:52If we are going to trial, we shall do so, but reject it upfront and say, no, we cannot agree. So we move forward.
00:23:00And we are prepared now, before the beginning of the term, to file action against both Paria and LMCS in the name of each individual member of the family.
00:23:11And this will be a bit novel to the extent about their human pain and torture, and not just about the loss and the pain of their departed father, but their own, because one could...
00:23:23Please do not even try to imagine, it's too horrific, but one could appreciate what they will be undergoing on a daily basis.
00:23:29And the sort of response they've had from Paria and LMCS that is, you know, multiplying and amplifying the agony that they face every single day.
00:23:41Not just in terms of the loss of a breadwinner, but the loss of someone they love. Picture it for a bit and see the disrespect and disregard for that human quality that we have for love.
00:23:54And that pain has to be dealt with, you know.
00:23:59You would remember that in March this year, relatives of the victims would have met with the prime minister.
00:24:08And at that time, following the meeting, the office of the prime minister issued a statement saying that Dr. Rowley had told the families, Paria's insurers are prepared to work closely with the divers, employer, contractor, marine, and land construction services to arrive at a joint proposal for a settlement without prejudice.
00:24:29He, insofar as he is permitted to as prime minister, he has requested that the board of Paria do all that it can do to address these issues as quickly and as reasonable as possible.
00:24:41So that's just a part of the statement that the prime minister's office had made at that time.
00:24:47Do you think that this meeting and the statements of the prime minister, it has impacted at all on the way that Paria has decided to deal with this matter?
00:24:58Well, if one reads clearly into what the prime minister was saying, it's a solve this thing, fix it.
00:25:05Right. But Paria is taking a bureaucratic approach.
00:25:09But I will put tabulated legalism.
00:25:13And therefore, they are not looking at a bigger picture, which is what this is.
00:25:18This conversation is about in a lot.
00:25:21How do we solve this rather than going through the very nuts and bolts?
00:25:26That may be necessary in the eyes of lawyers.
00:25:28And I'm one, of course.
00:25:29And if we are going to litigation, so be it.
00:25:31But the prime minister, he did his job as a prime minister.
00:25:34He saw and met with the families.
00:25:35I think they were a bit grateful for that.
00:25:37But in terms of the consequence out of that, we have moved nowhere.
00:25:42And we need to revisit Paria's board.
00:25:45Not every bit of advice from lawyers.
00:25:49I'm not knocking lawyers.
00:25:51I'm saying it is part of how you make your decisions.
00:25:54But not be stuck only on what the lawyers say.
00:25:58Because what you're doing, you're abdicating your responsibility to legal advice only.
00:26:03And we know in the real world.
00:26:04You take advice, but you also consider other things that lawyers are not duty-bound to consider.
00:26:09And then make that decision.
00:26:11And we see somebody being stuck there.
00:26:13I do not know why.
00:26:14All I can tell you, the consequence is very difficult and painful for all of us.
00:26:18Members of the society and in particular families.
00:26:20We need to fix this thing as soon as possible.
00:26:23I know that in the past, a view was expressed that we need to be very careful with the way that this matter is handled.
00:26:31Because you don't want to set precedent that when should things like these occur in the future.
00:26:39Now you have precedent that has been set.
00:26:44And there has to be great, how do I say it, it has to be dealt with in a careful way.
00:26:53So that precedent is not set that could affect other matters.
00:26:58And you hit the nail on the head.
00:27:00And that is why I reference there is no precedent in legal authority for circumstances like these.
00:27:05And how do you approach it then?
00:27:08Do you just say, well there is no precedent, therefore we go with the bare minimum that we have in terms of the awards in the past.
00:27:13Or do we have a more robust approach?
00:27:15And you have the cooperation of the lawyers for the families, at least for whom I represent, saying look there is a figure here.
00:27:24It is not abundantly over-exaggerated in any form or fashion.
00:27:29Because we too have done our calculations as to what may be expected in a normal course of events.
00:27:35And then we say look, in addition to that, this is what we believe should be paid.
00:27:41So I agree, there must be certainty.
00:27:44And that is why we cannot be slavishly dependent on precedent when there is no precedent.
00:27:50And therefore, I know it is difficult, but you have both sides, from what I understand, from what the Prime Minister has indicated, they want to settle it.
00:28:00And we too want it settled.
00:28:02But we have given an option available that is within reach.
00:28:05And you see, we have to look at what has happened.
00:28:08Every day, whenever I go anywhere, people say, but wait a minute, this is not settled yet.
00:28:13Look how much money has already been spent on the Commission of Inquiry, which was quite useful, I thought.
00:28:19And the legal fees that continue to add up over time.
00:28:2220 plus million dollars already are not sent to any member of the families who have lost their loved one.
00:28:29And that is the almost obscene inconsistency that we need to repair.
00:28:34And do not, as you said, drag things along unnecessarily.
00:28:38There is a fix.
00:28:39There is an immediate fix available.
00:28:41It takes the moral courage and the strength of the authority to determine these things.
00:28:46And we see almost an identical response.
00:28:49Because when the accident occurred, like there in the headlights, they remained frozen, not knowing what to do and leave it to others.
00:28:57You know, and went through almost a bureaucratic checklist that led ultimately to no rescue effort and to the death of these men.
00:29:05We're seeing it again.
00:29:07Where is the authority being exercised?
00:29:09You know, a very determined approach to things.
00:29:12We need to fix this.
00:29:13How do we fix it?
00:29:14We have an option.
00:29:15Let's get it done.
00:29:16We are not seeing that.
00:29:18Mr. Ramada, just touch a little bit, because you have touched on it earlier in our conversation.
00:29:24But let's talk a little bit about some of the challenges that relatives of the victims have had to endure over the past few years.
00:29:32Of course, it is embarrassing.
00:29:35But I have the authority of the Corban family as an example.
00:29:39This daughter, Brittany, her father's, you know, the apple of his eye.
00:29:47He saved up their money and then sent her off to university in Canada.
00:29:52Since his passing, every semester, every term, there is a pain to try to raise money.
00:30:01And it's extremely expensive to keep her in school.
00:30:05Come January next year, if she doesn't pay her fees, there are two things that would occur.
00:30:10One, she will not be permitted to write the exams.
00:30:13And two, she'll be thrown out of the university.
00:30:16This has occurred not just in the future, in January, but several times over the last three years.
00:30:21Just as one example.
00:30:23There are other members of other families, I know, that had to do barbecues to raise money.
00:30:31To send their children, little children, to school.
00:30:34To buy food, to pay electricity, to pay the transport costs that each and every family in Trinidad and Tobago knows how difficult it already is.
00:30:43And to lose a breadwinner, the person who earns the income to support their family.
00:30:48And then there's no response and you see the obscenity of millions of dollars being spent otherwise.
00:30:55It's a pain that every right-thinking person must feel, and they in particular.
00:30:59That is just one aspect, you know, the day-to-day consequences of losing a breadwinner.
00:31:04And then to think the painful death that your loved one endured.
00:31:08When it could have been avoided.
00:31:10I don't want to get too emotional, but at the same time, it is a very human issue.
00:31:15With a very bureaucratic and cold approach.
00:31:18I do also have the power, the responsibility, and the resources to fix it.
00:31:24At the best as we could.
00:31:25We could never bring them back, but at least show some respect for those who we need.
00:31:31Mr. Ramadar, it's always a pleasure speaking with you.
00:31:33Thank you very much for taking the time this morning to do so.
00:31:36Bye for now, sir.
00:31:39Thank you very much.
00:31:40Always a pleasure to be with you.
00:31:41God bless.
00:31:42So it's time for a quick break, everybody.
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00:37:19So welcome back, everyone.
00:37:20So we are giving you another Olympic update.
00:37:23All right.
00:37:24So Leah Bertrand,
00:37:26she ran in six heat of the 100 meters a short while ago
00:37:31and she placed third at a time of 11.27 seconds.
00:37:37So Leah Bertrand, third, 11.27 seconds, heat six.
00:37:43She qualified.
00:37:46So she has qualified for the next round.
00:37:49And earlier today, Michelle Lee Aye,
00:37:52she ran in the second heat.
00:37:55She placed fourth in a time of 11.33 seconds.
00:38:01All right.
00:38:02So that's your Olympic update.
00:38:04I'm giving you that this morning.
00:38:05You get something for your holiday yesterday,
00:38:07for Emancipation Week here.
00:38:09That is what I give to you.
00:38:10All right.
00:38:11And speaking about emancipation,
00:38:13have you all been following up on this discussion about reparations?
00:38:18As you know,
00:38:19that this discussion has been going on for a number of years now.
00:38:22But things, I think, in the past few years,
00:38:25in the past few months, it has been heating up.
00:38:28Right.
00:38:29So yesterday, one of the feature speakers at Emancipation Celebrations,
00:38:33of course, was Sir Hilary Beckles.
00:38:36And I'm going to tell you about some of the things that he did say yesterday
00:38:40because they are very,
00:38:41very interesting in all of this discussion about reparations.
00:38:45All right.
00:38:46So he said, when they speak about reparations,
00:38:49it is not just about throwing money at the issue,
00:38:52but about addressing the problems that plague the people.
00:38:56We have to find a way to rehabilitate these young people,
00:38:59bring them equally in and require psychological and public health
00:39:05interventions.
00:39:06In other words,
00:39:07we have to start again with a new God to look at this problem with
00:39:11different eyes, he said.
00:39:13Sir Hilary said he always admired the government of Norway that put aside
00:39:1840% of its oil money for public investment to make communities feel safe.
00:39:24He said they created a circumstance where they said,
00:39:27if an elderly woman cannot walk the street in peace,
00:39:31there is something fundamentally wrong that must be fixed.
00:39:36Turning to the issue of health, Sir Hilary said,
00:39:39Caribbean people are the sickest in the world.
00:39:42As he noted, the region has the highest numbers per capita of people with
00:39:46diabetes and hypertension.
00:39:49This problem, he said,
00:39:50stemmed from the British and they must be held to account and clean up the
00:39:55mess they created.
00:39:57What they owe us, they must pay us.
00:40:00They must also come to the Caribbean and help clean up this mess that they
00:40:04have left behind.
00:40:06All of the African people in the Caribbean are now totally addicted to
00:40:10sugar.
00:40:11We can't leave it alone because we were told to eat what you grow.
00:40:18And we grew sugar.
00:40:20And we eat.
00:40:21And now we cannot metabolize it.
00:40:24And we are now resistant and diabetes is going to destroy our people.
00:40:30He emphasized the need for reparation,
00:40:32saying the Caribbean needs a massive capital injection into public health
00:40:36and agriculture.
00:40:38He said the enslavement of our people was a global enterprise.
00:40:41It was the biggest business venture and the largest commercial operation in
00:40:45the history of the world.
00:40:47Every continent on this planet was caught up in the enterprise of enslaving
00:40:51African people.
00:40:53And we were scattered across the planet to provide enslaved labor for the
00:40:56colonizers.
00:40:58He said the Emancipation Act passed by the British Parliament was the most
00:41:02racist act ever passed.
00:41:05The British government, he said, was clear in its objective,
00:41:08in its quest to control black people.
00:41:11So some very profound words there of Sir Hillary Beckles.
00:41:16If you do get the chance to look at his address, please do.
00:41:21Yeah?
00:41:23It's all a part of these talks concerning reparations and the debate
00:41:27concerning reparations.
00:41:28All right.
00:41:29So we're moving on.
00:41:31So the report of the National Advisory Committee on Constitutional Reform is
00:41:34expected to be handed over to Prime Minister Dr. Keith Rowley today.
00:41:37Joining us this morning is Committee Chairman Birendra Sinanan.
00:41:41Mr. Chairman, good morning.
00:41:43Good morning to you, Marlon, and to your viewers.
00:41:46Yeah.
00:41:47Mr. Chairman, it's always good to speak with you.
00:41:49Of course, Mr. Sinanan is or was the former Speaker of the House.
00:41:53All right?
00:41:54So just to put that in context.
00:41:56So, Mr. Chairman, are you satisfied with the work done by your committee
00:41:59judging from the time you were given to do it?
00:42:02Very, very satisfied.
00:42:04We have achieved something that was monumental,
00:42:08and because of the quality of the committee, the members,
00:42:14and the secretarial staff, we were able to achieve in four months
00:42:21an exercise that would probably normally take about two years.
00:42:26And what about the quality of the contributions from members of the public
00:42:30and other organizations?
00:42:33Excellent.
00:42:35You know, Marlon, I'll tell you this.
00:42:38The ordinary man in the street is more sensible than the educated person
00:42:44give credit to.
00:42:47The ordinary man has fantastic ideas.
00:42:52They know about what affects them.
00:42:56Their problem really is in expressing it.
00:43:00But some did come through and express some fantastic ideas,
00:43:04all of which, all the ideas actually and all the contributions are in our report,
00:43:10in the working paper.
00:43:11You will see all of that.
00:43:14What do you think, judging from what you would have heard from organizations
00:43:18and members of the public again,
00:43:20what are some of the most pressing issues to them and serious issues to them?
00:43:25What concerns them?
00:43:28Well, I think I don't necessarily want to give it an order of priority.
00:43:32Yes.
00:43:33Let me just mention some.
00:43:35Accountability, public officers, accountability of public officers.
00:43:42When I say public officers, I'm talking about public servants.
00:43:46Accountability of the executive and the legislature.
00:43:53The judiciary, the criminal justice system was extremely topical.
00:43:59The slowness of the delivery of the criminal justice system,
00:44:05that was very important.
00:44:09Term limits for officeholders was something that came up.
00:44:15What again?
00:44:17Our report is very aspirational
00:44:22and it's the hope of the committee that the government will do its best
00:44:29to address all, if not most, of the recommendations.
00:44:36How many recommendations, Mr. Chairman, can you say?
00:44:40Oh, this is too numerous to mention.
00:44:45It's very illustrated, the report.
00:44:48The report actually is a little futuristic.
00:44:52It expresses the aspiration of the people.
00:44:57The question that would arise out of most of the stuff that we've recommended
00:45:02would be affordability because we talk about the right to health,
00:45:09right to housing, right to clean water, a clean environment.
00:45:15These things have cost implementations
00:45:18but can be implemented over a period of time.
00:45:24You know, Mr. Chairman, as I hear you speak,
00:45:26I get the impression it's sort of a people's document,
00:45:30if I can describe it that way, right?
00:45:32Well, it is.
00:45:33The document is entitled We the People.
00:45:37So it's the people that are speaking in that document,
00:45:41not the committee members, it's the people.
00:45:45What sort of response did you get from members of the public?
00:45:50Because I think there was a concern sometimes, Mr. Chairman,
00:45:54that the crowds that we saw at these meetings were sometimes sparse
00:46:00and we felt if we are a population of 1.4 million people,
00:46:05therefore more people should have been participating.
00:46:09That is true.
00:46:10Some of the town halls were not of the crowd we expected, the volume,
00:46:16but the quality of the contributions were excellent.
00:46:20And then we had written submissions.
00:46:22We had over 3,000 submissions to questionnaires,
00:46:27close to 1,000 written recommendations.
00:46:31So I'm not disappointed or too troubled by the lack of people
00:46:38attending the town halls.
00:46:40Those that attended made fantastic contributions.
00:46:44It sounds like quite a voluminous document, Mr. Chairman.
00:46:49It is a voluminous document, and as I say,
00:46:53I would hope that everybody would be able to access it on the website
00:47:01and after reading it, make their own comments on it.
00:47:07Just remind us, because I know when the Prime Minister would have spoken
00:47:12about this some months ago, and he spoke about this committee
00:47:19to look at constitutional reform, he had given certain assurances
00:47:25at that time.
00:47:27Of course, it would have followed the death of former Prime Minister
00:47:31Basdew Pandey.
00:47:34Just jog our minds a little bit, Mr. Chairman, about some of the assurances
00:47:38that the Prime Minister would have given last time.
00:47:41Well, the assurances he gave the public.
00:47:43He didn't give the committee any special assurances.
00:47:46He gave an assurance, and it was stated publicly,
00:47:50that once he received a report, they would look at it,
00:47:53and consequent thereupon, the government would hold a national conference
00:47:59on the constitutional reform.
00:48:03We had suggested in our report a way forward in that regard,
00:48:08but that's up to the Prime Minister and the government.
00:48:13So, and I don't want you to say too much, Mr. Chairman, right,
00:48:18because I'm sure that the Prime Minister and persons in government
00:48:22may want to speak on these issues, but what's the next step?
00:48:26Now, later on today, you are going to hand over the document
00:48:29to the Prime Minister, so what's the next step?
00:48:32Well, we hand over the document at about 10 a.m. this morning.
00:48:36The next step, really, is up to the Prime Minister and the government.
00:48:40They will, as stated, convene a conference.
00:48:44The time is not an easy exercise to engage in a national conference
00:48:51on a topic like constitutional reform, so it will take some planning.
00:48:58But the government, I mean, there's budget coming up,
00:49:02so perhaps if I were to speculate, maybe sometime in November,
00:49:08but that is entirely up to the government.
00:49:12Yeah. Mr. Chairman, I mean, you being a former Speaker of the House
00:49:17and an attorney at law, are we going to see constitutional reform
00:49:22in a real way, you think, in our lifetime?
00:49:26Well, I am very hopeful. The committee is hopeful,
00:49:32and there's sort of what you call low-hanging fruits that could be addressed.
00:49:38The topical thing, last week or two weeks ago,
00:49:42the Court of Appeal delivered a judgment where it indicated
00:49:46that there's no right to a speedy trial.
00:49:50There's a right to a fair trial.
00:49:52Now, that's an issue that can be easily addressed.
00:49:54Now, there's not a right to a speedy trial.
00:49:56It's a right to a trial within a reasonable period of time.
00:50:01And there's a lot, the CCJ, in its annual,
00:50:05the whole annual symposium, there was one in Barbados
00:50:10where they enunciated the Needham Point principles,
00:50:14and that deals with the criminal justice system.
00:50:19Mention was made in that report of the CARICOM Conference on Crime
00:50:25that was held, where crime was declared a public health issue.
00:50:31It would be a good thing for the media to look at that Needham Point principle
00:50:38and let the public, and inform the public about it.
00:50:43Mr. Chairman, in cases such as these,
00:50:47is it that the document is also laid in the Parliament and made public?
00:50:52Well, we are hoping that that will happen.
00:50:56The normal thing would be for the government
00:50:59to lay the document in the Parliament.
00:51:03At some point, you will have a debate on it,
00:51:06and we are asking the Prime Minister to make sure to allow us
00:51:11to put the document on the website
00:51:14so that every citizen has access to it.
00:51:18Yes.
00:51:19Prime Minister Sinodan, Mr. Chairman,
00:51:22thank you very much for speaking with us this morning.
00:51:24We do appreciate it.
00:51:25Thank you, Marlon.
00:51:26All right.
00:51:27Bye for now, sir.
00:51:28It's time for a very quick break.
00:51:29We are taking your calls after the break.
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00:51:36So get to your phones and get ready to speak to us.
00:51:39A number of things would have happened this week.
00:51:41It's Emancipation Week.
00:51:42We're talking about reparations.
00:51:44You had the holiday yesterday.
00:51:45If you want to speak about that, you can call us after the break.
00:51:48All right?
00:51:49We're coming back, everybody.
00:51:50Thank you.
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00:54:08Good morning.
00:54:09I'm Urvashi Tumwari Rupnarain with your news update.
00:54:12Prime Minister Dr. Keith Rowley demanded respect for people of African heritage
00:54:17as the country celebrated African Emancipation Day.
00:54:21Before joining some members of his cabinet at the front of the traditional parade
00:54:26through the streets of the capital city organized by the Emancipation Support Committee,
00:54:31Dr. Rowley addressed the gathering outside the Treasury Building in Porto, Spain.
00:54:36He spoke of the need for more young people to know their history and participate in the march.
00:54:42A lot of our young people are totally unaware of our circumstance and our history.
00:54:50It needs to be taught.
00:54:52It needs to be spoken about.
00:54:54It needs to be lived and relived.
00:54:57Because, ladies and gentlemen, it's a glorious life.
00:55:01It's a glorious place.
00:55:03But we have to ensure that our portion is had by those for whom it is deserved.
00:55:12So let us go out this morning through the streets of Porto, Spain in our splendid colors
00:55:20to remind ourselves and all those who look in our direction or listen to our songs and our drums
00:55:27that in Trinidad and Tobago, in the diaspora, African people are recognizing and respecting.
00:55:39A wall of inspiration with the names and faces of national African icons has been unveiled in La Romaine.
00:55:46The Pinal Debe Regional Corporation, in partnership with the St. Benedict's College,
00:55:51This project motivates the youth in the community to show them that people just like them
00:55:57have been internationally recognized in the spheres of sport, beauty and academia.
00:56:05In other news, the Caparo River Bridge is now closed to all traffic.
00:56:10The bridge, situated on Perseverance Road, had to be cordoned off today
00:56:14when it was observed that it was slowly going into the Caparo River.
00:56:19The base of the structure appeared to have been eroded over time.
00:56:22Chagones Municipal Police Borough officials, the ODPM and the Ministry of Works were on site yesterday assessing the situation.
00:56:36Now for a look at the weather.
00:56:38The Met Office says it will be mostly fair but slightly hazy with isolated showers
00:56:44and the medium chance of the heavier afternoon shower or thunderstorm.
00:56:48Temperatures are expected to climb to 33 degrees Celsius in Trinidad and 32 in Tobago.
00:56:55Seas will be slight to moderate with waves from 1 to 1.5 meters in open waters and up to 1 in sheltered areas.
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01:00:42When my spirit is feeling low, this natural mystic makes me so.
01:00:47When my spirit is feeling low, this natural mystic makes me so.
01:00:52Like a bongo or a corisha drum, deep in the Congo calling me Santa Claus.
01:00:57Like a bongo or a corisha drum, deep in the Congo calling me Santa Claus.
01:01:02Makes me want to dance, puts me in a trance.
01:01:08Welcome back, everybody.
01:01:10There, a major fire has taken place in Tobago.
01:01:14So, we are going to bring a report to you sometime very, very soon concerning that.
01:01:21So again, a major fire has taken place at a facility in Tobago.
01:01:26The information coming to us, it's a bit sketchy at this time, but we do have a reporter on the scene.
01:01:32So, I'll tell you who the reporter is in the next few seconds, right?
01:01:37So, but in the meantime, let me tell you some other stories in the newspaper today.
01:01:42So, unlawful detention, three Venezuelan children to get $1.27 million.
01:01:48The High Court has directed that the Office of the Attorney General pay a combined total of $1.27 million
01:01:54to three Venezuelan children for their unlawful two-month detention at a Chagramas heliport.
01:02:01Now, Master Sherlyn Payer on Tuesday directed that the state pay each of the children, ages 12, 7, and 2,
01:02:08$425,000 plus interest for the ordeal they suffered and the torturous acts committed against very young children.
01:02:21All right, so as I told you, we do have some breaking news for you.
01:02:23A major fire has taken place in Tobago.
01:02:26We do have with us this morning Elizabeth Williams.
01:02:29Elizabeth, good morning.
01:02:32Good morning. Good morning, Marlon, and of course, good morning to our viewers.
01:02:37Elizabeth, what is taking place?
01:02:41Okay, what is taking place is that a fire occurred at Dave's Hardware in Tobago, and you're seeing live footage here.
01:02:49A number of fire officers responded to the scene but did not have enough water.
01:02:55Let me get a little bit closer.
01:02:57I'm crossing the road so you guys can get a little bit closer in terms of seeing the fire at this time.
01:03:03So this is a fire that is taking place at Dave's Hardware.
01:03:07It's a multimillion-dollar fire.
01:03:10The building alone is $5 million.
01:03:14So the family lived in the top floor of the building, and the hardware was located to the bottom of the building.
01:03:24I might show you a little bit of some of the hardware, some of the materials that are on the compound.
01:03:32But in terms of the situation, the hardware was destroyed.
01:03:40What we can confirm also is that there were no injuries and no fatalities.
01:03:45We can also confirm that one family member awoke and smelled smoke, and she alerted the other family members so they were able to escape the building safely.
01:04:00That is the situation right now in Tobago.
01:04:02It's a multimillion-dollar fire, and investigations are continuing.
01:04:08What we can also say is that fire officers were unable to treat with the fire initially and had to leave the scene and return in terms of water.
01:04:20Because let me show you the fire hydrant.
01:04:24This is the state.
01:04:26I want our viewers to see the state of the fire hydrant.
01:04:30This is the state of the fire hydrant that could have assisted.
01:04:35It had no water.
01:04:37And because this fire hydrant had no water, fire officers had to leave the scene of the fire on more than one occasion and return to fight the blaze.
01:04:49What also happened is that an additional water truck arrived on the scene to provide additional water to assist the fire officers.
01:05:01And that's the situation, Marlon, in Tobago.
01:05:04Yeah. Liz, have you all or have you been able to speak to the fire officers there?
01:05:09And have they at this time been able to tell you or ascertain what may have caused the fire?
01:05:15Well, fire officers here on the scene, they are not authorized to speak with the media.
01:05:22So I will have to try to get the information otherwise.
01:05:25But I did an interview and that information will be given to TV6 so that we can have full coverage and an understanding of what occurred and what caused the blaze.
01:05:40Can you say at all, Liz, how many people were employed with the hardware?
01:05:46I don't have that total information, but we know that some persons were employed.
01:05:50It was a family business. So we know some of the family members were also employed at the establishment.
01:05:57But what we can confirm is that there was a fire that destroyed the discount hardware in Tobago.
01:06:05And investigations are continuing for officers to determine the cause of this blaze.
01:06:12Fire officers are still on the scene. And in between, they are putting on, you know, trying to assist in terms of water to assist the blaze.
01:06:26Because I'm still seeing a fire below in terms of the downstairs of the hardware.
01:06:32So they are still trying to fight this blaze at this time in Tobago.
01:06:37Because there's a small fire to the downstairs. And let me show you. Let me see if I could zoom in.
01:06:43So you're seeing fire officers. The hose was turned on again. And they are combating the blaze.
01:06:50Well, combating in terms of the downstairs. Let me show you.
01:06:54And give you a zoom in so that you can see.
01:06:59So officers, again, the hose was turned on again. And they are trying to extinguish some flames to the bottom of the hardware.
01:07:08Yes. Elizabeth Williams, it's always good to speak with you. Thank you very much for your report this morning.
01:07:14And I know that we'll have more from you in the TV6 News this evening.
01:07:19Again, Liz, thank you very much. Bye for now. And be safe out there.
01:07:23Thank you.
01:07:25All right. So we are taking your calls now. You're calling us on 623-1711. The extension, it's 1995.
01:07:31So you can please call us now. Just speaking about the continuing along the vein of the Venezuelans
01:07:40and what has been happening with them and also what has been happening in Venezuela itself.
01:07:45So the protests continue. Maduro must go. Migrants protest at Venezuelan embassy.
01:07:51Maduro must go. We want freedom. We support Edmundo Gonzalez.
01:07:56This was a common sentiment echoed by about 150 Venezuelans living in Trinidad
01:08:01who protested outside the Venezuelan embassy at Victoria Avenue, Port of Spain on Wednesday night
01:08:07over the declaration of Nicolas Maduro as winner of the Venezuelan election and not opposition leader Edmundo Gonzalez.
01:08:16So Maduro was declared the winner with 51 percent of the vote compared with 44 percent for retired diplomat Gonzalez.
01:08:23The competing claims set up a high-stakes standoff. Among those beheading the protest on Wednesday night
01:08:30were activists Yesenia Gonzalez, Osmar Marrera, and businessman Ramon Alvarez.
01:08:37All right. So you're calling us on 623-1711. The extension, it's 1995.
01:08:42So you can please call us now. The lines are free. So Heritage. Mova is on the line.
01:08:49Good morning, Mova. Good morning, sir. Morning.
01:08:53I just want to expose two items to the general public.
01:09:00On Wednesday, sir, I talked to a cop. The cop I can put in the West Laboratory building.
01:09:10Right. When I got to retrieve my vehicle, I realized that problems are bigger apart.
01:09:18Only to hear that a lady who lost her...
01:09:26Mova, change your position a little bit because we're not hearing you entirely.
01:09:32All right. So change your position a little bit. All right. Come back to us. Go ahead.
01:09:36Yes, sir. So as I was saying, that car park, Marlon...
01:09:42A Salvatore building or the site at...
01:09:45When you receive your ticket, it says clearly on the ticket that if you lose the ticket, you have to pay $50.
01:09:51Now, it's $8 an hour. OK? But they tell you clearly on the ticket, if you lose your ticket,
01:09:57you have to pay $50 because they wouldn't be able to determine how long you were in the car park.
01:10:02OK? This lady lost her ticket and she refuses to pay the $50.
01:10:08So she stays there. They put the barrier down so she cannot leave.
01:10:13And she is adamant that she is not paying.
01:10:15And she created a whole confusion in the car park that people like myself couldn't get out.
01:10:21And it so happens, Marlon, that when I approached her because I realized the attendants were speaking with her
01:10:28and she was adamant. And if I went to her and said,
01:10:30Lady, listen, you have a problem with them. It's not our problem. Let us pass.
01:10:35She proceeded to show me her badge, Marlon. She was a police officer.
01:10:38So she felt because she was a police officer that she had the right to inconvenience
01:10:45dozens of people who were trying to exit the car park.
01:10:48The car park attendants had to eventually let us go out the entrance.
01:10:53So it was a lot of chaos because people were trying to come in
01:10:56and they had to try and organize for us to go out.
01:10:58Now, I called 999. I also called DBC, the command company,
01:11:02because I stayed there for almost half an hour trying to get out of this car park
01:11:06because of a policewoman who felt she had the right to inconvenience dozens of other people.
01:11:12And I just want to make, I want, you know, I would like the police to,
01:11:16I don't want this to be hidden then, you know?
01:11:19So I want it to be clear because when the police keep asking us to help them, help them,
01:11:24officers like that will always undermine the image of the police.
01:11:29We're going to need to understand that.
01:11:31Second thing, Marlon, second thing, the second thing, Marlon,
01:11:37I heard the Prime Minister say that we must demand respect for African people.
01:11:49We must also demand respect for African people from African people.
01:11:54And if our Prime Minister doesn't realize, he and his government seems to not realize
01:11:59that African people in Trinidad and Tobago, according to how they identify us, some of us,
01:12:06we are not being respected because of noise pollution.
01:12:10I don't think he realizes that because his government continues to ignore noise pollution.
01:12:15And I want the Prime Minister, Dr. Rowley, to understand that law-abiding people,
01:12:20law-abiding citizens are being disrespected in their homes every day and night by other African peoples.
01:12:27And this government of an African leader is refusing to deal with that problem.
01:12:33Over and out, Marlon. Have a good day.
01:12:35All right. Always good to hear from you.
01:12:37And I know that you have been really championing this cause when it comes to noise pollution.
01:12:44So that's why I always try to give you that exposure, because I think that your voices,
01:12:50it's really one of the lone voices and loudest voices that has been speaking about this.
01:12:56And I don't know that this issue has been given the attention that it deserves. Right.
01:13:02This seems to be an issue that nobody wants to touch.
01:13:06So if they touch it, it's a fast touch. You know, it's a hot issue that nobody wants to touch.
01:13:11So, again, congratulations to you in this fight that something could be done about noise pollution.
01:13:20The police don't want to touch it. The AMA don't want to touch it. Nobody else wants to touch it.
01:13:25All right. Faisalabad, good morning.
01:13:27Good morning, Marlon. Good morning, Trinidad and Tobago.
01:13:29Morning.
01:13:30Marlon, from all indications from public observers and what have you,
01:13:37seemingly that the Venezuelan election process is, you know, well, well secured and safe.
01:13:47Right.
01:13:48I've heard people from Trinidad who went as observers and commented on the process that is very nice.
01:13:58But I want people to know every place that you go that you have elections, democratic elections,
01:14:05there are people for and against the ruling party.
01:14:08You know, seemingly, it might be the ruling party not doing a good job.
01:14:13Similarly, in Trinidad, Marlon, look at the job that the PNM is doing.
01:14:18And they're still winning elections. So why are we surprised?
01:14:23I mean, nobody can be proud of this government.
01:14:26So let me try to clean my things and then see about when you will arrive.
01:14:32Take care, my brother. Have a nice day.
01:14:34All right. Have a good weekend.
01:14:35You're calling us on 623-1711, the extension. It's 1995.
01:14:40I think that the concern has been that every time that you do have an election in Venezuela,
01:14:45the results are always in dispute and they have to find some sort of way to work this out.
01:14:52Why is it that every time there's this dispute and there are always these allegations at this one teeth
01:15:00and there's corruption and the system in a mess?
01:15:02And I just don't know. But I know that something has to be done about that. Right.
01:15:08All right. So you're calling us on 623-1711, the extension. It's 1995.
01:15:15Good morning, caller. Good morning. Morning.
01:15:22Go ahead, sir. We're listening. The caller is there.
01:15:28All right. The call has dropped, sir. So if you do have the opportunity, please call us back.
01:15:33Obiaman threatens licensing police officers.
01:15:38Police are looking for an Obiaman following threats made to licensing and police officers
01:15:44in the execution of their duties in Tobago.
01:15:48I don't want to laugh, but the situation came to a head on Wednesday when an Obiaman
01:15:54placed a bull head candles and flowers in Roxborough near the gas station, police said.
01:16:00Who do we have, San Juan? San Juan, good morning. Excuse me.
01:16:04Good morning, Marlon. How are you? I'm good. I'm good.
01:16:07All right. Marlon, I want to touch on a couple of things here. First and foremost,
01:16:10I watched a movie last night, Invictus, right where Morgan Freeman acted as Nelson Mandela.
01:16:19Now, here's what. It is very, very concerning to see that a black leader would be and come forward.
01:16:31The salary that he was making was too large as the president.
01:16:35That is so humbling. That is so warm hearted and caring as for where the people are concerned.
01:16:43Very much contrary to the leaders of today, especially the leader that we have.
01:16:49We do not have leaders. What we do have is people in leadership positions.
01:16:55And in accordance with your earlier point, he would have said that black people need to be respected more.
01:17:04He is a hypocrite to say that because he doesn't even care about black people.
01:17:08All right. And he doesn't care about nobody. And if it is that he wants black people to be respected,
01:17:14he must do the necessaries in accordance with what is within his grasp, what is within his authority
01:17:21to try and uplift black people in this country instead of have them with a stag in the hand
01:17:27and a pants down on the bottom. And they're only looking to see what crime they could commit.
01:17:33Now, not everybody like that. They are very good, genuine black people in this country.
01:17:38But as for where the youths are concerned, they are seriously misled.
01:17:42And they are going based on what they are seeing from a leadership position.
01:17:46So, Rowdy, let me tell you something. You need to take into consideration what you say to the people
01:17:51and stop being a hypocrite. All right. Have a good day.
01:17:55All right. Thank you very much for calling us on 623-1711. The extension, it's 1995.
01:18:00So, let me get back to the Obia man. So, the Obia man is being sought and charges can be laid by police.
01:18:05Senior Superintendent of Police Rod Hill Kirk told the media on Wednesday.
01:18:09He says, I am not an expert on Obia. This is the police talking here.
01:18:14I'm not an expert on Obia, but any offenses on the books concerning that is a summary offense,
01:18:20which is something that is on the law books for over 60 years or more.
01:18:27He said, adding that officers are not intimidated and will continue to carry out their duties.
01:18:32It is also alleged that a woman armed with a foul on fire weighted two pounds on licensing officers in Delaford.
01:18:39The situation, not easy. Tunapuna, good morning.
01:18:43Hello. Good morning. Morning.
01:18:46If you have anything to say, you can have your say, right?
01:18:51Go ahead.
01:18:53I'm calling from Tunapuna, Barcelona Court, right?
01:18:59We have a bin that is an HEC apartment.
01:19:10And there's a bin that takes up the garbage.
01:19:13But the whole bin is rotted to the bottom and to the side.
01:19:19So I made reports to the area manager of HEC.
01:19:24And about 12 occasions, they inform us that they will change the bin because we have some scrupulous people dropping chicken guts and so forth in the bin
01:19:39and causing a lot of flies and worms and so forth.
01:19:45So off the record, the person from HEC said they're having a problem for BK to drop the bin because HEC is owing them money.
01:19:58So BK is not dropping a new bin.
01:20:01So I cannot plead because we are opposite Tunapuna Secondary School.
01:20:07We are next door business.
01:20:09And the businessman is complaining nonstop because it's harming his customers from coming because of the stench.
01:20:21The school wrote HEC and told them and also the corporation about the bin.
01:20:32So all we're pleading is to get a new bin so that we can put it inside the compound.
01:20:38So that people would not be throwing these chicken because it seems like somebody with a food.
01:20:43Please continue to throw chicken guts in the bin.
01:20:46Yes.
01:20:48And it's really smelling real bad and causing a...
01:20:56All right.
01:20:57So it's the bin at Basilan Court in Tunapuna.
01:21:01All right.
01:21:02So HEC, please assist the residents of Basilan Court.
01:21:07It's a bin and people have been throwing, according to the gentleman, chicken guts and so on.
01:21:12Of course, this is going to provide an unhealthy situation for all of the residents
01:21:18and even the children who are to begin school at the Tunapuna Government Secondary School in September.
01:21:25So please, if you can do something about it.
01:21:27Well, not if you can.
01:21:28You should do something about it.
01:21:30Please assist the residents of Basilan Court with that bin situation.
01:21:34We're taking a few more calls.
01:21:36We have one more call to take.
01:21:38All right.
01:21:39So you're calling us on 623-1711.
01:21:41You're calling us now.
01:21:44As the producer says, who's going to be that lucky caller?
01:21:47Right.
01:21:48So we do have a caller.
01:21:50Two shot dead by cops.
01:21:52Two men were shot dead by police early yesterday morning after they opened fire on officers.
01:21:56Mova, good morning.
01:21:58Good morning, Marlon.
01:22:00Good morning.
01:22:01And the prime minister must live by what he says.
01:22:04Because you're talking about African people and all that and supporting them.
01:22:09I mean, look what they're doing with the refinery.
01:22:11Right.
01:22:12That belongs to African people by extension.
01:22:14They aren't the big or the racist.
01:22:16That refinery where the oil is considered black gold, you know.
01:22:20And the prime minister cannot want to give that to foreign interests.
01:22:23I mean, that is the patrimony of Trinidad and Tobago.
01:22:28And he has to live by what he's saying.
01:22:30He has to action the confidence in the people of Trinidad and Tobago and African people
01:22:33and allow national ownership for the refinery.
01:22:36It would be much better off under national ownership.
01:22:39The unions say that they will open.
01:22:42When they finally stabilize, they will give it to Trinidad and Tobago to buy shares into the refinery.
01:22:47It would be better than that.
01:22:49You have to action the confidence that you say you have in the people and African people also
01:22:53and allow the refinery to go back to national ownership, which is patriotic.
01:22:58Thank you very much, Marlon.
01:23:00All right.
01:23:01Thank you very much to all of our callers.
01:23:02That's going to do it for our calling segment for today.
01:23:04We are going to a very short break, everybody.
01:23:06We're coming back.
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01:24:38I was in Gethsemane.
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01:24:43Music.
01:24:46Lift my eyes unto the hills.
01:24:48We only have one place to go for help.
01:24:51Hallelujah.
01:24:54So I celebrate in Jesus.
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01:26:33We are excited.
01:26:35We have a fund raising work to assist the people
01:26:38of the grenadines who were adversely affected by
01:26:42hurricane Beryl.
01:26:44We have arch bishop Robert Rivas.
01:26:47And we have bishop gerod County.
01:26:49It's a pleasure.
01:26:51Let's begin with you.
01:26:54Let's talk about this fund raising work to assist
01:26:57the people of grenadines.
01:26:59What happened was, you know, I was a bishop in St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Bishop
01:27:06County is one of my successors, and I was there for 22 years.
01:27:13And the day I saw the damage to the church in Miro, my heart broke and I knew I had to
01:27:24do something.
01:27:26Whatever I could do, whatever little it would be, I would do something to help see that
01:27:32that church was rebuilt.
01:27:35And that is where the idea was born.
01:27:38I asked friends and family to contribute towards rebuilding the church, and then the idea was
01:27:46born to have a walk for Miro.
01:27:49And again, a further idea in the walk was, I walk with a cane, so I'm vulnerable.
01:27:57And I thought I would use my vulnerability to encourage and inspire others to walk with
01:28:04me so that we'll do a work of mercy to help people who are in distress.
01:28:09They're my people.
01:28:10I love them.
01:28:12St. Vincent and the Grenadines, the diocese was my first love.
01:28:16I was the first bishop there, Catholic bishop, and when things like this happen, you can't
01:28:26sit and just leave it, especially if you are connected with the place.
01:28:32And Miro was the place where I celebrated my first Mass as a bishop, when I was appointed
01:28:38bishop in the Grenadines.
01:28:41So again, that was another kind of reason that I wanted to do something for Miro.
01:28:47Miro is a little island in the Grenadines with a population of about 250 people.
01:28:55But it has produced a priest, and it has produced a religious sister, a Carmelite sister, and
01:29:01they are both in their middle years.
01:29:03They are young, relatively young, and contributing to the life of the church.
01:29:09So it's a vibrant little community of faith, and I believe I want to do something that
01:29:18is concrete and personal but also special to help the church there, that they will know
01:29:24they are not abandoned in this time of distress, because the church was totally and absolutely
01:29:31destroyed.
01:29:32A beautiful 94-year-old cut stone church that you would think was like a little fortress
01:29:40on the top of the island of Miro, and the burial just made it look like rubble.
01:29:51Bishop County, let's dig in a little deeper.
01:29:55Of course, Archbishop would have spoken about the church, and it sounds like the church
01:29:59was obliterated really by a hurricane burial.
01:30:04So let's speak about the church and speak about the environment and speak about the
01:30:10damage that has taken place in the environment and also the church.
01:30:15Right.
01:30:16So the southern Grenadines, because of the hurricane pass, it was total destruction in
01:30:21other islands.
01:30:22But in Miro, the church also was obliterated and a lot of damage there.
01:30:27Today, they haven't got any electricity, have not returned.
01:30:31But the people are very resilient.
01:30:33The priest is there with them, and every Sunday in the sporting complex, they continue to
01:30:38celebrate their masses despite their difficulties.
01:30:43And we think, and I was very pleased that Archbishop Rivas suggested or is working to
01:30:50assist us.
01:30:51I think the church also is a very important element there.
01:30:56The people see that church was constructed, that would help them.
01:30:59I would say, though, during the hurricane, the priest was on the island and people took
01:31:04refuge there.
01:31:06He tells me, you know, to see the church was just craving in, caving in, had to move the
01:31:12people.
01:31:13The people went to his small abode, and there, there was no damage.
01:31:17So the stories about that, I am very touched and I'm very pleased that that priest is on
01:31:23the ground today, accompanying the people pastorally, you know, and looking after them.
01:31:28Yeah.
01:31:29Archbishop Rivas, it sounds like you all need a lot of money, you know.
01:31:32Well, we need, and that's why one of the things I'm hoping on Saturday, that we will raise
01:31:37at least $50,000.
01:31:38That's US.
01:31:39No, no.
01:31:40TT.
01:31:41TT?
01:31:42In the walk.
01:31:43Well, you could, you could help us raise more.
01:31:47You all, Archbishop Rivas only wants $50,000 TT, you know.
01:31:50Well, you see, I'm working with, I'm working within, within a parish area.
01:31:54Yes.
01:31:55You know, a cluster area in Deagle Martin.
01:31:58So I've estimated that the people there in a walk could raise that kind of money.
01:32:03But of course, like, you know, if, if the, if, if the care is extended, you know, then
01:32:10we could do much more.
01:32:13The idea is we are walking from three points.
01:32:16We are walking from St. Finbar's Church to Nativity Church in Crystal Stream.
01:32:22And St. Finbar's is in, on Mount Cocoa Road in Deagle Martin.
01:32:27Then we are walking from St. John's Church on Church Street in Deagle Martin to Nativity,
01:32:34another group.
01:32:35And another group is walking from St. Anthony to Nativity.
01:32:39And when we, when we arrive in Nativity, we are going to have like a, a prayer and worship
01:32:45time and a benediction and then a little sharing in the yard after.
01:32:49So people could mingle and probably come up with more ideas on how we could work to help
01:32:55rebuild the church in the Grenadines now.
01:32:57To walk with a deacon or a priest from those points, St. Anthony or St. John to Nativity,
01:33:04you have to contribute $100, okay?
01:33:06And if you walk with a bishop, you have to contribute $300, you know?
01:33:12So if, if we can get 300 people to walk with us on, on Saturday morning, we should easily
01:33:19make that amount, you know?
01:33:21What time on Saturday morning?
01:33:22We, we, we are gathering at 6.30 in all the venues and we are walking at 7 a.m.
01:33:31Bishop, if people want to make other contributions, how do they do that?
01:33:42Well, for here, I think a collection was picked up, taken up in all the churches.
01:33:46So I think my suggestion will be through the, the chancery, the archbishop's office.
01:33:52They can contact them or through their parishes to get the money on to them, whatever donation
01:33:56they would like to make to us.
01:33:57Yeah.
01:33:58And they'll get it on to us.
01:33:59Yeah.
01:34:00And if they want to work, like contribute towards what you call the MIRO fund, which
01:34:05is specific, you know, I have a number.
01:34:08Of course.
01:34:09Could I read it out for you?
01:34:10Of course.
01:34:11So there is a number here at Republic Bank in, at Starlight in Deagle Martin, and it's
01:34:20a savings account number 440031099031, sorry, that's a U.S. account.
01:34:36And now the TT account is 44003163 and 3631.
01:34:50You see, I talk about the U.S. gentlemen.
01:34:54Yes.
01:34:55Yes.
01:34:56Because some people may want to do it in U.S.
01:34:59But Bishop County, is there anything else besides the funds do the people of MIRO need
01:35:07Well, we, we accept whatever funds or whatever people can donate.
01:35:12Yes.
01:35:13Towards them because they have lost their roofs and so on.
01:35:18And I think through the churches also, I think lists were sent out what they needed and there
01:35:25was the collection money or if people wish to send items, they can.
01:35:29But there is still need for aid.
01:35:30Yes.
01:35:31Yes.
01:35:32Of course, this will be ongoing.
01:35:34I think, Gerard, you should mention something about Union Island because you lost the church.
01:35:38Right.
01:35:39Yes.
01:35:40So I lost two churches, one in MIRO and the other in Union Island, collapse, collapse
01:35:43under the attack of burial.
01:35:46So they are also, we're looking for assistance, whatever assistance people can give.
01:35:51We welcome that.
01:35:54But I know that at the diocesan level, they are doing some things.
01:35:58They did pick up a collection and they are collecting items for us.
01:36:02Yes.
01:36:03Also Archbishop Rivas, where's your office?
01:36:06My office.
01:36:07I live at St. Finbar's.
01:36:08Okay.
01:36:09Indigo Martin.
01:36:10Yes.
01:36:11Yes.
01:36:12I'm just asking that so that if people want to donate and so on, where can they visit?
01:36:13Yes.
01:36:14Also the people can go to any of the offices at St. John's, at Nativity, at St. Anthony
01:36:22or St. Finbar's and the secretaries or the people who work administrators in those places
01:36:30would help them and facilitate any contributions they want to make.
01:36:35Yes.
01:36:36Bishop, anything else you'd like to add?
01:36:37I just want to like to thank Archbishop Rivas.
01:36:40It is first love and so it's very dear to him on this initiative of assisting us and
01:36:44he's very passionate about it.
01:36:46So Archbishop Rivas, thank you very much.
01:36:48Yes.
01:36:49Archbishop, any final words?
01:36:50Well, what I want to say is, you know, it's not too late to join us.
01:36:53So if anybody would like to come and walk, to walk with the Archbishop, bring your $300
01:37:00on Saturday morning at St. Finbar's and you'll be doing a work of mercy.
01:37:05And if you want to walk with a priest or a deacon from St. Anthony or St. John's, the
01:37:11same, contribute $100 and, you know, in this way we are giving our spirituality as trinnies
01:37:17is a spirituality of generosity and solidarity.
01:37:22And I, you know, I've seen it in action already with this organizing this walk for MIRO and
01:37:29I expect greater things as we go on.
01:37:32And I think Marlon, after this, after this, this TV interview with you here today and
01:37:39your encouragement, I think we are going to go places.
01:37:42Thank you.
01:37:43Maybe we get double or three times the amount that I had in mind.
01:37:46Yes.
01:37:47Archbishop, thank you very much for coming this morning, Bishop, and we wish you all
01:37:51the best and the people of MIRO and, you know, I know that people are going to contribute.
01:37:57Yes.
01:37:58Thank you.
01:37:59Thank you very much again.
01:38:00Thank you very much.
01:38:01It was a pleasure speaking with you all.
01:38:02Thank you.
01:38:03We are going to a very short break, everybody.
01:38:04We're coming back.
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01:45:40Alright.
01:45:44You accepted into the fellowship, right?
01:45:47Yes.
01:45:48So you receive certain type of training.
01:45:52You are partnered with mentors and so on.
01:45:56What is the next step then?
01:46:01This is very much at its embryonic stage.
01:46:04Right.
01:46:05So the next step is ready to get out in the field.
01:46:08the field and just to let people know what we experienced, what issues that
01:46:13came up, what social, economic, political issues came up because of course they
01:46:16were different people representing different backgrounds and so that's
01:46:20that's really where we are right now. Yeah so it's the three elements as we
01:46:24said and it would have shaped us into becoming agents of change more or less
01:46:29you know in the future and whatnot so that's it. So then is it is it is it the
01:46:37first time that that this has been done? No I believe this is the second year.
01:46:41All right. I believe it's the second year but we are the first Trinidad and Tobago
01:46:47nationals to represent. We have one other national her name is Krista Rudolfo but
01:46:53she resides abroad. Right so you said earlier that this would have the
01:46:59fellowship it's for three years? No it's three parts, three elements of it.
01:47:05So the 40-hour legal boot camp, then we would have been placed, she would have
01:47:09interned with a specific company, I would have interned with another company, we
01:47:13would have been able to refine our skills based on you know what the company
01:47:16requires and then afterwards we have the cultural exchange element where we go to
01:47:21Ghana and Rwanda where we engage in you know fruitful dialogue with a variety of
01:47:25government institutions, the private sector and that would have ended the
01:47:30program. All right, but who's the the fellowship for? When I say that is it
01:47:36only for people who are interested in law, what age should I be? What's the
01:47:43criteria? So as it stands right now it's for attorneys and budding attorneys. Okay.
01:47:51So all of us we are students, we're all students and sorry what was the other
01:47:57part of it? Yeah what's the criteria? Oh right so the criteria. And age? No there was no
01:48:03there was no age limit. Yeah. So I mean I'm exposing myself here but I'm 35 and
01:48:08there was somebody who was also older than me but then there are other fellows
01:48:12in the cohort who were 21 and whatnot so university age there about. Okay and what
01:48:18about other opportunities for other people to participate? When do these
01:48:24opportunities come up? Well the opportunities arise as I said previously
01:48:27through your faculty. So it's more or less just a waiting game to see when you
01:48:32know the flyers are sent out for you to be able to apply. Is it that form it
01:48:38comes in for people to apply, flyers, emails? Yes so we got it through we got
01:48:44it through faculty email but when you're asking about opportunities when if you
01:48:50do get through to the program there are other opportunities involved. So for
01:48:53instance the company that I interned with is a public relations company and
01:48:59it exposed me to public relations because her responsibility is really
01:49:04connecting her clients with audiences through bespoke digital marketing and
01:49:10brand advisory and so it allowed me to do research in intellectual property
01:49:15from a transnational perspective. And by transnational I mean that so she's
01:49:20actually based in Ghana but she wants to expand to certain Caribbean countries
01:49:25and so I was able to research the intellectual property protection issues
01:49:31that may arise for her and her clients. Yeah yeah. And just to add on to what
01:49:35Faye was saying so at my internship I would have taken the role as a legal
01:49:39researcher and of course you know as a student that's a crucial skill you know
01:49:43needed so when we speak about opportunities my mentor she opened up
01:49:49herself to me and she would have said that if I have any articles or anything
01:49:52that needs to be reviewed you know before I submit it or whatever she would
01:49:59have allowed herself you know so. Yeah but if you can't give any wrong information
01:50:04then it's trouble you know. Faye anything else you'd like to tell us before you leave us
01:50:08this morning? Well so there was work and then we did a bit of sightseeing when we
01:50:14went to so we had a trip to Ghana and Rwanda. I opted to just go Ghana it's
01:50:19optional you know it's not mandatory he went to Ghana and Rwanda and so we did a
01:50:23bit of sightseeing. One of the things that stood out to me we actually visited
01:50:28the Cape Coast Castle which is where enslaved persons would have been kept
01:50:33before they would have been transported across the Atlantic. Isn't that where they
01:50:38have the door of no return? Absolutely. Yeah you see I know something. And from the
01:50:43Rwanda aspect of things I think one of the most memorable moments would have
01:50:48been the Genocide Museum in 1994 just to become further educated about
01:50:53what the society would have faced during then and the devastating effects that it
01:50:58still has psychologically on the population you know themselves and how
01:51:03they have been resilient in terms of moving forward from that. It was it was
01:51:08really heartbreaking to see you know what would have went on and it was just
01:51:11it started because of class division. Yeah that's you know I think it's really
01:51:15a life-changing event. Yes. It can it can impact on you that way. Faye, Malik
01:51:26thank you very much for coming this morning. Thank you for having us. Thank you
01:51:28for having us. Right and we do wish you all the best in your future endeavors. Thank you.
01:51:31All right we are going to a very short break everybody we're coming back.
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01:53:27Faye and Malik? Yeah and we wish them as I said we wish them all the best in
01:53:32their future endeavors. All right. All right so that's gonna be it for our
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