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00:00:00And a very special good morning Trinidad and Tobago, I'm Marlon Hopkins and as always welcome
00:00:18to Morning Edition.
00:00:20It's Monday 26th August and thank you very much for joining us this morning.
00:00:24This is Independence Week, I'm calling it Independence Week, of course on Saturday we
00:00:29are celebrating our independence and you know these days to me are very, very significant.
00:00:36It gives us an opportunity I think for us to reset, you know, and start anew, right?
00:00:43Start over.
00:00:44So let's see how we can do things a little better this week, from the beginning of this
00:00:49week and beyond, yeah?
00:00:51A very special good morning to all of you again.
00:00:53Alright, let's check out to see what's happening in the Daily Express today.
00:00:56On the front page, Chin Hits Back, movie town and court today over a million dollars.
00:01:26We have concerns about how much it will cost the country to do so and 100 million city
00:01:50headquarters for Pantrén-Bégaud, Pantrén-Bégaud's headquarters will be constructed at the old
00:01:55post office site on Wrights Road in Port-de-Spain, Prime Minister Dr. Keith Rowley has confirmed.
00:02:02Just getting back to the top story in the Daily Express today, Chin, movie town levy
00:02:07was big shock, case goes before judge today.
00:02:11The action to repossess the movie town Cineplex in Port-de-Spain was an act of thuggery that
00:02:16caused great embarrassment and loss of money, said Chairman of Trén-Bégaud Commercial
00:02:21Development Company Limited, Derek Chin.
00:02:24Alright, so we'll see what happens in the court today.
00:02:27Alright, so we're moving to the back page now.
00:02:30Winning band members of Republic Bank Exodus conducted by Khan Cordis during their winning
00:02:36performance of David Rudder's dedication at the 2024 Trinidad and Tobago National Steel
00:02:41Band Music Festival's Orchestra Championship on Saturday night of a Jean PĂ©re complex
00:02:46in Port-de-Spain.
00:02:47The band also won tune of choice with a rendition of a Tchaikovsky song, alright?
00:02:55I'm not going to even attempt to say the name of that song, alright?
00:03:00So congratulations to the band from the East, Republic Bank Exodus.
00:03:06And a move forward, Professor Copeland supports change to coat of arms, while the Pan deserves
00:03:11a place in Trinidad and Tobago's coat of arms, but national instrument must also be given
00:03:15substance through allocation of resources for development and ownership of the product
00:03:21in the global arena.
00:03:24Now this was a view of GPAN inventor, Dr. Brian Copeland, following Prime Minister Dr.
00:03:28Keith Rowley's announcement last week that the government proposed to redraw the coat
00:03:33of arms, replacing symbols of three of the vessels sailed to the west by Christopher
00:03:37Columbus when he was recorded as having discovered the new world.
00:03:42Alright, so we're moving on to some sport now.
00:03:46What a feeling.
00:03:47Wallace really proud after second world champ silver.
00:03:50I don't think I could really describe the feeling right now.
00:03:53I honestly can't believe that I have two world championship medals.
00:03:59Makaira Wallace was yesterday still coming to terms with a double silver medal performance
00:04:05at the Junior Track World Cycling Championships in China, alright?
00:04:12Male sprinter Wallace backed up getting TTO's first ever cycling medal, male or female,
00:04:19at a Junior World's 500 meters time trial on Saturday with another silver in the championships
00:04:27which concluded yesterday, alright?
00:04:29Congratulations to her, alright?
00:04:31So we're moving on.
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00:06:53All right, so welcome back everyone.
00:07:17A very special good morning to all of you again.
00:07:20Of course, it's Monday, so we're going out there this week in a positive way.
00:07:24Of course, it is Independence Week.
00:07:27Independence is going to be observed and celebrated on Saturday.
00:07:30All right, so we're moving on.
00:07:31So two more lives lost this weekend, pushing the murder toll a little further.
00:07:35We also witnessed on social media men burning the exhumed body of Kevin Shrek Lucas, who
00:07:41was murdered on August 18th.
00:07:43In Moruga, relatives of murder victims Enrico Guerra and his five-year-old daughter Anika
00:07:48staged a vigil calling for justice.
00:07:51Well, on the line this morning, we do have former Commissioner of Police and current
00:07:56political leader of the NTA, Mr. Gary Griffith.
00:07:59Of course, sometimes we forget that Mr. Griffith was also a former or yes, a former national
00:08:05security minister.
00:08:07Mr. Griffith, as always, thank you very much for joining us this morning.
00:08:11My pleasure.
00:08:11Good morning to you and to your many viewers.
00:08:13Yeah, Mr. Griffith, if you'd allow me to begin this way, and I want to refer to this
00:08:20body being exhumed and we're seeing that it was an attempt to cremate the body publicly
00:08:30by people on the weekend.
00:08:33The body was doused with gas and then satellite and so on.
00:08:37It's not the first time we have seen things like that in Trinidad and Tobago, but I think
00:08:43this was a little different and it gives the impression that there are new players involved
00:08:47in some way.
00:08:48And I refer to a sign that was placed on the scene, Regla de Melandro Ismael, which according
00:08:55to, I see it is translated in the newspaper, which means strike by criminal Ismael.
00:09:02Of course, the victim was Kevin Shrek Lucas.
00:09:06Is this a bit different when compared to other incidents that would have occurred in the
00:09:15past?
00:09:16Oh, it will definitely.
00:09:17Out of 5,000 non-murders in the last decade, you would not have seen something like this.
00:09:23It sets a signal.
00:09:25It is not the first time we have seen situations like this, however.
00:09:27I recall when I was a young officer in the defense force with the Clint Huggins situation.
00:09:33Clint Huggins, he was shot, he was stabbed, and then he was burned.
00:09:36And sometimes it is based on either blatant hatred for the individual.
00:09:40You want to try and hope that you could probably kill the person several times or to send a
00:09:44specific message.
00:09:46It's a message being sent based on a new type of criminal enterprise that will want to send
00:09:53messages to their opponents, to others, to let them be aware of the draconian measures
00:09:58they intend to pursue.
00:10:00What it does, however, it also shows that the individuals now have absolutely very little
00:10:04care or concern about being apprehended.
00:10:06There's nothing to have been gained that they would have gained by doing this.
00:10:11Again, it shows there's lack of respect, there's no longer that deterrent, and that is why
00:10:17the criminals have become so brazen.
00:10:19We just saw a few hours ago someone on a ship was stabbed, a captain based on an altercation,
00:10:24and that's what you're seeing now.
00:10:25You're seeing individuals now involved in such hatred and bitterness and anger, there's
00:10:31no longer that concern of, would there be a few moments later, would there be a police
00:10:36response in five minutes?
00:10:37That is why we have the problems of extortion, of home invasions, where people know they
00:10:41could just jump over a wall, commit an act, and leave without any fear of reprisal.
00:10:46Persons can be killed just meters outside a police station.
00:10:49So it is a matter of concern, but we would have seen that it has continued as it goes
00:10:56along.
00:10:57Yeah.
00:10:58Is this sign, and of course I read the words a little earlier, is this sign of significance
00:11:06to you?
00:11:07Because it does give the impression that maybe non-nationals are involved in this sort of
00:11:14activity.
00:11:16Yeah, definitely.
00:11:17I started reading the tea leaves even as Minister of National Security, I don't know if the
00:11:21country is aware, but we have over 110,000 illegal immigrants in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:11:27When people question that, that is documented in the Ministry of National Security, and
00:11:31this is because of persons who have entered our legitimate ports of entry and never left,
00:11:37comprising primarily persons from South America, Mainland, the Caribbean, China, India, Africa,
00:11:45other countries, seeking a better way of life and not leaving.
00:11:49And because of that, when you speak about 110,000, you're speaking about almost over
00:11:5310% of our adult population.
00:11:55For every 10 persons you see, one person is here illegally.
00:11:59That sets up frightful development, because it means that these individuals, if it is
00:12:04that they do not get properly employed, they can turn to a life of crime.
00:12:08It also is going to affect our health, our economy, education, and obviously national
00:12:12security.
00:12:13And again, it also becomes a byproduct of human trafficking, because these individuals
00:12:18will now work in atrocious conditions.
00:12:20They will now take jobs away from legitimate law-abiding citizens who are citizens of this
00:12:25country.
00:12:27It's a domino effect.
00:12:28When I was Minister of National Security, I understood the problem.
00:12:31I put a moratorium for three months to ensure that all persons can be regularized.
00:12:35By doing that, it would have reduced the concern of human trafficking.
00:12:39It would make sure that employers will not abuse the process by having these persons
00:12:43work in atrocious working conditions below the minimum wage that our citizens would
00:12:47not do.
00:12:48It would have injected over 3 billion TT into the economy.
00:12:50That is the type of leadership we need to be proactive and not hide and move away from
00:12:55the problem, which will also encompass what we have seen on probably I think the headlines.
00:13:00I'm out of the country now.
00:13:01But we have now decided to put up $100 million to build up our headquarters.
00:13:07The reason I'm stating this in relation to your question, Marlon, is that we, for the
00:13:12last 30 years, the Toronto Police Service, do not have a police headquarters.
00:13:16I don't know if the country is aware of this.
00:13:17So this is similar to one police plaza you will see in the TV series Blue Bloods and
00:13:21so forth.
00:13:22Without a police headquarters, what you have is a police admin building at Sackville Street.
00:13:27That is to see with human resource, finance, and so forth.
00:13:29A police, without a police headquarters, you have several operational, intelligence,
00:13:33technological arms, all in different parts of the country, not working together.
00:13:38So you have spent, we have decided, and this has to do with leadership.
00:13:42It has to do with prioritization.
00:13:43It has to do with understanding where you need to focus as a leader.
00:13:47So we are spending $100 million to build a six-story Pan Headquarters.
00:13:52$80 million to fix a Brian Lara Stadium, because you built it initially on virtual quicksand.
00:13:58$100 million to give the retirees of the defense force to be involved in community policing
00:14:03with no training.
00:14:04So in that $300 million, let me guess, in 20 seconds, Marlon, with $300 million, we
00:14:10could have acquired a police headquarters.
00:14:12We have a situation, Toronto Bay, if you're not aware, we have an air guard that for the
00:14:15last 10 years, they do not even have the capability to fly a Chicky Chong or a Marble.
00:14:20They can't even fly that, far less a chopper or an aircraft.
00:14:23We have a Coast Guard that for 10 years, they have no vessels that are seaworthy, even though
00:14:27we provided, as as minister, I've got vessels at $1.2 billion less than the three OPVs that
00:14:34could have done the same thing.
00:14:35The police require body cameras.
00:14:36They need tasers.
00:14:37They need pepper spray.
00:14:38We need to have, if that $300 million can put 2,500 more cameras around the country
00:14:44to turn Toronto Bay into a safe city model that we can monitor everything that is happening.
00:14:49It can provide 500 extra vehicles required for the police service to lock down the country.
00:14:54It can provide the training, the technology.
00:14:56It can change the Toronto Bay recruitment, where it is we now reside.
00:15:00Keetra always speaks about colonial times.
00:15:02Our police still train in an area that was built 150 years ago during the colonial period,
00:15:07pre that, in St. James Barracks, instead of us having a proper training academy.
00:15:12That $300 million, if you have a leader that understands the importance of what this country
00:15:17is going through right now, that $300 million can totally transform our national security
00:15:22architecture, the apparatus to provide the training, the units, the equipment, the technology,
00:15:27everything to have our law enforcement officers properly prepared to secure this country.
00:15:32Yeah.
00:15:32I just want to get your perspective because last week, we recorded in Trinidad and Tobago
00:15:38the 400th murder for the year.
00:15:42And this would have followed the killings of five-year-old Anika and her 34-year-old
00:15:49father, Enrico Guerra.
00:15:51But what was significant about it is that this 400 murder mark was the earliest in the
00:16:00last five years.
00:16:02All right?
00:16:03So the comparative for the same period last year was 379.
00:16:07In 2023, the 400 mark was reached on September 9th.
00:16:12In 2022, it was reached on September 4th, and so on and so on.
00:16:16As you look at this, and we try to make sense of this, what's your perspective?
00:16:24Well, what I would hope is that persons who have the capability and training, they need
00:16:29to get on board.
00:16:31What we do not want is to have security ministers and commissioners of police passing the buck,
00:16:37trying to divert from their responsibilities, speaking about we need prayers, blame the
00:16:41community, blame society, blame parents, blame the media, blame the laws.
00:16:47You have a responsibility, and that is what is required.
00:16:49Criminologists, for example.
00:16:50We have a criminologist that said, you know, I think the murder rate is going to be very
00:16:53high this year.
00:16:54Any SA student will take 400, divide by eight months, that has not yet been completed.
00:16:58You get 50, multiply by 12.
00:17:00You know we are going to hit the highest murder rate in the history of this country just by
00:17:03doing the maths.
00:17:04You don't need a criminologist to do the maths.
00:17:07The role of a criminologist is to understand the cause of crime.
00:17:10What criminologists do worldwide is interview prisoners, understand what has caused crime,
00:17:14and then bring the information to the law enforcement experts.
00:17:18Those are the things that are required.
00:17:19What we do not need is for us to try to find the old-time type of policing that is causing
00:17:24the problem.
00:17:24You can't roadblock your way out of crime.
00:17:26Again, it is laughable.
00:17:28It is embarrassing.
00:17:29That's the hierarchy of the police service, believe that every public holiday or just
00:17:34inconvenience in public, because of ways, because of WhatsApp groups, because of criminals
00:17:39having lead scouts, any roadblock.
00:17:41Since I was in 1990 at the Royal Military Academy in the United Kingdom, battling against
00:17:46the IRA, we understood that.
00:17:48And 34, 38 plus years later, you understand that any roadblock over 15 minutes becomes
00:17:54totally irrelevant because of ways, WhatsApp, and so forth.
00:17:57So you have to be the dumbest criminal in history to be in a roadblock for more than
00:18:0115 minutes and still have your weapon not turned around.
00:18:03So you can't be roadblocking your way out of national security and to secure a country.
00:18:07There are many things that can and should be done.
00:18:10They have not been achieved.
00:18:11Technology is a perfect example.
00:18:13The online reporting, the police app, making sure you have an elite unit heavily polygraphed
00:18:18using a system of making sure you can build public trust and confidence in the police.
00:18:22It was 59% three years ago.
00:18:24Now it is 8%.
00:18:26There are many things that can be done.
00:18:27It is not, I'm listening to the Moruga citizens.
00:18:30They are very concerned.
00:18:31They're speaking about a state of emergency.
00:18:33My personal view is a state of emergency is not a crime-fighting tool.
00:18:37Just three years ago, when we were going down to less than 340 murders per annum, now we're
00:18:41going to almost double that.
00:18:42It shows that we can't turn around with all the need of a state of emergency.
00:18:46What is required is the political will, the people, the policies, and the programs, and
00:18:51the technology that is there that can easily peg back criminal elements.
00:18:55Just remember, three years ago, there was kidnappings came to an end, home invasions,
00:18:59extortion, and the country never felt so safe.
00:19:01This can happen again, but it cannot be by using old-time policing methods of roadblocking
00:19:06your way out of crime and utilizing $300 million in taxpayers' money to build a six-story pan
00:19:15headquarters, trying to fix a stadium built on quicksand, when all of the things that
00:19:20I mentioned, the police service, the defense force, the coast, especially Coast Guard,
00:19:24the air guard, there are critical needs required that can...
00:19:27These are the same police officers that worked three years ago.
00:19:30This can turn around, but it requires the political will to utilize your resources in
00:19:35an effective and efficient manner.
00:19:37But you know, when I listen to you, and I'm sure when our viewers listen to you and see
00:19:41you this morning, I think that they may come up with the impression or the conclusion that
00:19:48what is happening when it comes to really dealing with crime in Trinidad and Tobago,
00:19:52it is being done in an ad hoc way, and I think that the impression that is being given
00:20:00this morning is that all fall down when it comes to protecting this country, safety and
00:20:06security.
00:20:07Well, I wouldn't say all fall down, but it's just that, unfortunately, what we have in
00:20:11now is the administration.
00:20:12They are trying to put focus now on the politics.
00:20:15Let's see what I could do to win over my whole base support.
00:20:18Ah, let me change the logo of the coat of arms.
00:20:22Let me build up police upon headquarters.
00:20:26That is not what is required.
00:20:27Now is not a time to look for votes.
00:20:29I always stated my style as a politician is always being a patriot first.
00:20:33You do the right thing and the votes will come.
00:20:34You say the right thing, you become a patriot, and that's why what happened even when I was
00:20:38Minister of National Security, I was the one who exposed live sport.
00:20:42I stood up against live sport, against my own government.
00:20:44That is the type of leadership the country requires, not blindly supporting your political
00:20:48leader and several ministers following me constantly saying, well, Gary, we need you
00:20:52on board, but we can't say anything because I'll lose my seat.
00:20:54Or persons in the opposition saying, if we don't form an alliance, we will not get in
00:20:59government, but I can't shift them a leader.
00:21:01That is what has been lacking in this country.
00:21:03Persons with the political will to stand up and do what is right, not what your leaders
00:21:07want to hear, because you're so desperate to want to keep your seat or to keep your
00:21:10ministerial position.
00:21:12It is not all fall down.
00:21:13It can happen.
00:21:14We have brilliant minds in this country, in law enforcement, in the legal department.
00:21:19It can turn around.
00:21:21It happened in 2013 to 2015.
00:21:23It was the highest reduction in serious crime in 31 years.
00:21:26It happened three years ago, not because of COVID, because the same way crime went down
00:21:30drastically during the period in Trinidad and Tobago, in Jamaica, Guyana, New York,
00:21:35Boston, LA, Detroit, crime increased tremendously during COVID.
00:21:40So there are things that can be done.
00:21:42We are not a poor country.
00:21:43The technology I'm speaking about, I just spoke about 300 million.
00:21:47You can build up police headquarters, a police training academy, post guard vessels, air
00:21:51guard vessels, getting 3,000 extra cameras at a cost of just 12 to 15 million TT, and
00:21:57making sure you have a national operations center, getting 500 police vehicles, getting
00:22:01an elite unit 10 times bigger than the special operational response team to put back the
00:22:06famed criminals.
00:22:07These things are not difficult.
00:22:08It requires for you to put focus on seeing about your most fundamental rights of citizens,
00:22:13which is your right to live, and not trying to build a six-story pan headquarters and
00:22:18spending $80 million to try to refurbish a cricket stadium because you built it on quicksand.
00:22:22All right, Mr. Griffith, please stay with us for a few more minutes.
00:22:25We are going to a very short break.
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00:24:24All right, so welcome back, everybody.
00:24:25So we are continuing our discussion on crime with former police commissioner Gary Griffith,
00:24:31also former national security minister, and he's the current political leader of the NTA.
00:24:37Mr. Griffith, thank you very much for staying with us this morning.
00:24:39You mentioned earlier, fair in the hearts of criminals.
00:24:43You think this is what is required at this time?
00:24:47And how do you do that and stay within the law?
00:24:51Yeah, definitely.
00:24:52Because, again, you have to balance it.
00:24:55But it is I did.
00:24:55And it is available.
00:24:57There was over about $100 million in overtime corruption in the police.
00:25:01We had a couple hundred police officers stating that they were working 24 hours a day,
00:25:05seven days a week, 50 days a month.
00:25:07And by removing that, I was able to utilize and get the funds to get a limited amount
00:25:12of body cameras, tasers, pepper spray, doing polygraph testing for officers,
00:25:16drug testing for officers.
00:25:17The reason I state that is that these are the systems to measure their performance,
00:25:21make them accountable, ensure that they are not going in the wrong direction,
00:25:25using covert operatives in the police service.
00:25:28NYPD, for example, they have 35,000 police officers.
00:25:312,000 of them drive taxis and sell hot dogs that the other 33 do not know.
00:25:35And by doing that, I was able to pinpoint and understand that there were police officers
00:25:39involved in extortion, in money laundering, by color crime, kidnapping.
00:25:44And that is how we were able to stop kidnapping by actually arresting kidnappers,
00:25:48which never happened before, and arresting victims.
00:25:50So those are the things that can and should be done that will instill public confidence
00:25:54and trust in the police.
00:25:55When you do that, the public will be aware.
00:25:57There was a mandatory standard operational procedure I did through a departmental order
00:26:01to make it mandatory.
00:26:02You must wear the body cameras.
00:26:04Failure to do so, it means that automatically you can be suspended because you have breached
00:26:08the departmental order.
00:26:09We had 30 police killings already this year, not one, the body camera was one.
00:26:13All of those officers should have been suspended because you breached the departmental order.
00:26:17And this is not in any way to question that they did the wrong thing.
00:26:20The body cameras, I did a proper comprehensive peer training to explain to the officers by
00:26:27wearing this is to ensure that you can be protected when wrongfully accused by the lady
00:26:30in the towel who called it a little wicked, that pussy, because they always blame the
00:26:34police officers.
00:26:35And if it is that you did the wrong thing, you went outside of the minimum use of force,
00:26:39you cannot be disciplined.
00:26:41That is what built public trust and confidence.
00:26:44And that is what lifted it to 59%, the highest level.
00:26:47Now it is 8%.
00:26:48It is appalling that a welfare association head can have the audacity to say we don't
00:26:53have to give the police complete authority or evidence and documents.
00:26:57That is the arrogance.
00:26:58We do not need any police service.
00:27:00As a commissioner of police, anything David West asks for, I will provide it for him because
00:27:05the PCA is there as an avenue to lift the standard of the police service.
00:27:09So this can be done by putting those systems, whilst at the same time, when I formed that
00:27:14SORT, similar to Patrick Manning's SAUTT, you need an elite unit, highly trained, highly
00:27:19polygraphed, with their own intelligence department, separate and apart from the regular
00:27:23police officers.
00:27:24That is what put fear in the criminals, that pegged them back.
00:27:26We heard about Gary's Boys.
00:27:28And it was just 100 of them out of 7,000.
00:27:31But that was the frontline team that the criminals feared.
00:27:34And that is what you require.
00:27:36You need fear, but you also need that degree of respect.
00:27:38But you also need the public to know that these individuals will not go outside of the
00:27:42law.
00:27:43And that is why, when you put systems in place such as the online reporting, the 482Gary,
00:27:47the police app, providing systems and true technology to allow persons to come forward
00:27:52and give information because they are concerned of fear of reprisal.
00:27:56You remove the police app, you remove the 482Gary, you remove the online reporting,
00:28:00you've watered down the gender-based violence units.
00:28:02So now you have situations with domestic violence, abuse of women, elderly children now taking
00:28:08place again.
00:28:09Why?
00:28:10We continue to throw the baby in the bath water.
00:28:12And it has happened for administration after administration.
00:28:15When it is sold, the OPVs, units that would have been there from 2015, things that are
00:28:21implemented.
00:28:21It has to stop.
00:28:22We have to stop politicizing national security.
00:28:25You know, every now and then, we hear about, and even during your time, we spoke about,
00:28:33and you had spoken about delinquent police officers, rogue cops, as they were called.
00:28:40And we even heard members of the government speak about police officers who may be contributing
00:28:48to the crime situation.
00:28:51You and your experience as police commissioner, Mr. Griffith, how serious was that situation,
00:28:57these delinquent police officers contributing to the crime situation?
00:29:02Well, it was the biggest problem.
00:29:04I did a lot of research looking at other countries and cities.
00:29:07That is why I was able to link, form an agreement between the NYPD and the TTPS.
00:29:13People are not aware that it still exists.
00:29:14There was a contractual agreement made, and they assisted us in training, forming the
00:29:19gender-based violence unit, assisted us in customer service training.
00:29:22And that, so when I became commissioner, I saw that.
00:29:24There was a 14% public trust and confidence in the police service because of this.
00:29:29And then it went up to 59%.
00:29:31Now it is back down to 8%.
00:29:32That is the catalyst that has caused the problem now.
00:29:35And this is no fault of the police officers, Marlon.
00:29:37These are the same police officers.
00:29:39But when I put those systems in place, it is to try to ensure that we can meet all the
00:29:44rogue elements.
00:29:45I spoke about the COVID operatives.
00:29:47When I started putting undercover officers, we were able to pinpoint the rogue police
00:29:51officers who controlled drug blocks in certain areas, who would be using police vehicles
00:29:55to escort criminal activity.
00:29:58And then we put systems to measure their performance.
00:30:01Every police vehicle had GPS tracking.
00:30:03We were all monitored by an operational command center, commissioner's command center, similar
00:30:08to in one police plaza.
00:30:09So if a vehicle that is stationed in Muva, you see it driving down in Chagaramas, you
00:30:14can now say, where are you going?
00:30:15Who sent you there?
00:30:16If a vehicle was going 100 miles toward Rice Road at 4 p.m., we know that you're using
00:30:22a blue light.
00:30:23But we didn't send you on a distress call.
00:30:25If someone calls 999, immediately we can look at the GPS of the vehicle in closest
00:30:29proximity to have them respond.
00:30:31That is why we got less than a five minute response to almost every distress call.
00:30:35That is what caused the criminals to peg back.
00:30:37When that intelligence, we were able to pinpoint the rogue elements, I transferred them because
00:30:41sometimes you don't have enough evidence to arrest the officer, but you can remove them
00:30:45from the area that they belong.
00:30:46When I removed all of them, guess what?
00:30:48As soon as I left, they reassigned all of these officers back to the same stations,
00:30:53to the same divisions, to control their drug blocks, to have access to the same vehicles
00:30:57that they were using to escort the criminal elements.
00:30:59And therein lies the problem.
00:31:01I made a request for polygraph testing for all officers in the Southwestern Peninsula.
00:31:05Simple question.
00:31:06Are you involved in financial benefit from illegal entry of drugs, weapons, and human
00:31:11trafficking?
00:31:12Those who refuse to take the polygraph test, I simply transfer you to a central part of
00:31:16Trinidad, away from the Southwestern Peninsula.
00:31:19That's the type of out-of-the-box thinking you need to do to remove the rogue elements
00:31:24or to have them arrested.
00:31:25We arrested police officers for kidnapping, for money laundering.
00:31:29Those are the things that are required.
00:31:30That is what lifted public trust and confidence to 59%.
00:31:33But these are the same police officers.
00:31:35You put systems to measure their performance, make them accountable, it can't be lifted
00:31:39again.
00:31:40It lifts again.
00:31:41It builds that bridge between the police and the citizens.
00:31:43And who will lose?
00:31:44The criminals.
00:31:45Yeah.
00:31:46Recently, there was the appointment of a new minister in the Ministry of National Security,
00:31:56in the person of Keith Scotland.
00:31:58Of course, government sees this as another attempt to deal with the crime situation.
00:32:05And Minister Scotland is also to act as a liaison, if I can put it that way, between
00:32:11the police service and also the government.
00:32:15What are your thoughts on this new appointment?
00:32:17I wish him the best.
00:32:18I really and honestly hope he can put a dent on crime.
00:32:23Anything that should replace Fitzgerald Hines will improve.
00:32:26It is obvious that what the prime minister has done is one where his personality is never
00:32:31to say that I was wrong, I made a mistake.
00:32:33So what he has done is now removed Fitzgerald Hines from being the de facto minister of
00:32:37national security.
00:32:38He has given Keith Scotland the authority for everything as it pertains to the police
00:32:42team, border security, dealing with all the aspects pertaining to national security other
00:32:48than the fire service.
00:32:50So Fitzgerald Hines is now the minister of the fire service and the cadets.
00:32:53Keith Scotland has now taken full control.
00:32:54You've noted that since Keith Scotland has taken over, Fitzgerald Hines has not said
00:32:58a word.
00:32:58He has been given instructions, shut up, say nothing, you have done enough damage.
00:33:02Keith Scotland, what he has shown, however, is the capability to want to meet people,
00:33:06to approach people, which is the first step in the right direction.
00:33:09That is what you need, a minister of national security who is accessible, who is willing
00:33:13to be seen and willing to hear persons.
00:33:17The unfortunate thing is, yet again, square pegs in round holes.
00:33:20The comment by Patrick Manning a decade plus ago, he said that all is required for a national
00:33:25security minister is common sense and a level head.
00:33:28Totally incorrect.
00:33:29You need a person with some degree of knowledge to understand law enforcement, criminological
00:33:33theory, and it is not about, we have this perception that to be a president in this
00:33:37country, you need to be an attorney, to be a minister of national security, if you're
00:33:40a lawyer, you're on the right track.
00:33:42Total nonsense.
00:33:43You need someone, and what we would have seen, and I think the best minister of national
00:33:47security in the history of this country, no, not myself, is Brigadier General Joseph Theodore,
00:33:51and you would have seen that.
00:33:51That was, when it is the minimum, it would have been less than 100.
00:33:54The man was brilliant.
00:33:56I was seen as his little mini-me when I was in the defense force.
00:33:59I looked at his style, his pattern, his accessibility, his refusal to accept anything that is wrong,
00:34:05and that is what is required for a minister of national security.
00:34:08Keith Scotland, he has the right intentions, but it is not, I don't think it is good, and
00:34:13you would have seen for the last month, what they have done is many photo ops by Walker
00:34:17Newbrough, which are Commissioner Hull and McCain.
00:34:19That is not what is required.
00:34:20You need to have the type of scientific, strategic, tactical, technical ability to know how to
00:34:26utilize your national security resources in an effective manner.
00:34:29All that we have seen in the last few months is trying to roadblock your way to reduce
00:34:33crime.
00:34:33It's not going to work.
00:34:35All right.
00:34:36Gary Griffith, it's always a pleasure speaking with you.
00:34:39Thank you very much for your perspective this morning, and happy independence.
00:34:42We are celebrating 62 years on Saturday, you know.
00:34:45Yeah, definitely.
00:34:46And it is hoped that by independence day next year, this country can be in a better place.
00:34:51We can definitely make sure not to be able to see forget.
00:34:54All right.
00:34:54Bye for now, sir.
00:34:56Okay.
00:34:56It's time for a quick break, everybody.
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00:36:50All right, everybody, so welcome back.
00:36:52So we do have a lot more for you on the program today and a lot more interviews.
00:36:56But let's touch on some of the major stories in the newspaper today and most of the Daily
00:37:03Express.
00:37:03Yeah, we got some surprising news on the weekend, right, of the death of Lawrence Dupree.
00:37:11All right.
00:37:11So tributes have started pouring in for him.
00:37:16President prays is visionary business magnate.
00:37:19Dupree left a mark while recognizing Lawrence Dupree's business acumen.
00:37:25President Christine Kangaloo yesterday acknowledged that his philanthropic efforts also left an
00:37:31indelible mark on many lives.
00:37:33Mr. Lawrence Dupree is recognized as a visionary entrepreneur and business magnate who established
00:37:39a business empire that transformed various industries.
00:37:42His contributions have left have left a lasting impact on many lives.
00:37:47Kangaloo statement came in response to Dupree's death on Saturday at the age of 89.
00:37:53Now, in 1999, Dupree was awarded the Ciccone Medal Gold in the sphere of business.
00:37:59With that national award, he followed in the footsteps of his uncle, Cyril Dupree, who
00:38:04won the Ciccone Gold Medal 22 years earlier in 1977 and later received what was then the
00:38:11nation's highest award, the Trinity Cross in 1988.
00:38:16And they hunt.
00:38:18He fostered black entrepreneurial spirit.
00:38:21Lawrence Dupree fostered an entrepreneurial spirit in many black people in this country
00:38:26and the region as a whole.
00:38:28Former banking executive and former cabinet minister Robert Lee Hunt has said they hunt
00:38:34made the statement yesterday.
00:38:35Of course, following Mr. Dupree's death, the hunt said his mother was one of the founding
00:38:39workers at Colonial Life, giving him a personal connection to Dupree's legacy.
00:38:45He says, I spent my formative year surrounded by the vibrant atmosphere of Colonial Life,
00:38:51where my education was funded by her salary and supplemented by the early exposure I
00:38:57had to such a dynamic financial environment.
00:39:00I owe some of my success to the institution he built.
00:39:06All right, so some of the stories there.
00:39:08Of course, I'm going to give you a little more before we move on.
00:39:12So there was this vigil in Moruga.
00:39:17So hundreds of people took to the streets on Saturday night in a call for an end to
00:39:22crime and gun violence, and in particular, for justice for the brutal murders of Moruga
00:39:27businessman Enrico Guerra and his five-year-old daughter, Anika.
00:39:32The streets of St. Mary's, which was the home community of the well-known minimart owner
00:39:37and his daughter, were lined with citizens who donned white T-shirts and held candles
00:39:44in a peaceful demonstration.
00:39:46So among those on the vigil were Andy Guerra and Hesper Ali Darsu, the parents of Guerra
00:39:54and the grandfather of Anika.
00:39:57The parents and grandparents wore T-shirts with a picture of their son and granddaughter
00:40:02for the walk from Knox Street to the basketball court in St. Mary's on Moruga.
00:40:09All right.
00:40:10So if you looked at the news last evening, the mother of Enrico had some very profound
00:40:18statements to make about the crime situation.
00:40:21Of course, the community council in the area has called for, at least one member has called
00:40:28for a state of emergency.
00:40:31And yesterday, there was another murder, this time at a bar.
00:40:34Energy ministry worker stabbed after argument.
00:40:37An employee of the Ministry of Energy and Energy Industries was stabbed and killed at
00:40:41a bar opposite his Jurep home yesterday morning.
00:40:45Police said that at around 11 a.m., Matthew Mangaldine, 29, of Riverside Road, walked
00:40:52across the icebox bar located obliquely opposite his home.
00:40:57Of course, some argument occurred between the young gentleman and another person, and
00:41:03he was stabbed to death.
00:41:05Yeah?
00:41:06Y'all, we need to really take this thing down, you know.
00:41:09We really need to take this thing down.
00:41:11All right.
00:41:12So getting back to one of the big stories for today, 100 million city headquarters for
00:41:19Pantranbego.
00:41:20Pantranbego's headquarters will be constructed at the old post office site on Wrightson
00:41:24Road in Porta Spain.
00:41:26Prime Minister Dr. Keith Rowley has confirmed.
00:41:29He was speaking on Saturday at the finals of Pantranbego's sealed band music festival
00:41:34at the Jean Pere Complex in Porta Spain.
00:41:37All right.
00:41:37So here's what I am.
00:41:39What we can do is that we do have a number of interesting stories, a number of interesting
00:41:44topics to discuss today.
00:41:46Here's what we are going to open up the lines.
00:41:47You're calling us on 623-1711.
00:41:50The extension, it's 1995.
00:41:52So you can please call us now.
00:41:54We told you about this story this morning, and this story has been making the rounds
00:41:59all over the place.
00:42:00Since weekend, Chin Movie Town levy was a big shock.
00:42:05Case goes before judge today.
00:42:07All right.
00:42:07So you're calling us on 623-1711.
00:42:09The extension, it's 1995.
00:42:11We just have a few minutes before the seven o'clock hour.
00:42:13So you can please call us now.
00:42:14The action to repossess the movie town Cineplex in Porta Spain was an act of thuggery that
00:42:20caused great embarrassment and loss of money, said chairman of Tranbego Commercial Development
00:42:24Company Limited, Derek Chin.
00:42:26On Friday, landlord for the Port Authority, Porta Spain, the Porta Spain Infrastructure
00:42:31Company Limited, sent bailiffs who descended on Movie Town at Invaders Bay to repossess
00:42:37the complex for what Pos Inco said was $10 million in old rent.
00:42:43Tabakit, good morning.
00:42:45A pleasant morning to you, Mr. Hopkinson.
00:42:47Morning, morning.
00:42:49Mr. Marlon Hopkinson, what can be said?
00:42:54What contribution I could make this morning?
00:42:57You know, you believe you would have made all the contribution in regards to crime.
00:43:03The only thing I could add this morning is ask Trinidad to use America's satellite from
00:43:12Pentagon.
00:43:14Let them give them the permission to zoom in on our country.
00:43:18Because, Mr. Hopkinson, I am saying what can be said?
00:43:22That is our partner.
00:43:24And you know as a brilliant man, America would stay from Pentagon and they would zoom into
00:43:30your country and they see where our hands is working.
00:43:34Why not do that?
00:43:35I think it is the only thing left.
00:43:38Get on to Pentagon and tell them, look, we give you full permission to use this satellite
00:43:45so we could say we're a pinfall.
00:43:48Mr. Hopkinson, I think this is the only thing I could bring to the table this morning.
00:43:54And other than that, Tabakit will say, God help us.
00:43:57I thank you.
00:43:58All right, Tabakit.
00:43:59You're calling us on 623-1711, the extension.
00:44:02It's 1995.
00:44:03We just have about 10 minutes to take your call.
00:44:05So you can please do so now.
00:44:06And a little later in the program, we are giving away tickets.
00:44:13At around maybe about 7.30 this morning, we are going to be giving away tickets.
00:44:17Is it for today's game?
00:44:20Right.
00:44:21So we are going to be giving away tickets for today's game at the Brian Lauer Cricket
00:44:25Academy for the WCPLR.
00:44:29We're going to try to keep our questions concise and simple so that you can win these tickets
00:44:35because we have to give away these tickets.
00:44:37All right.
00:44:38So please stay close to your lines.
00:44:40Do we have another call?
00:44:43All right.
00:44:43So you're calling us on 623-1711.
00:44:46The extension.
00:44:47It's 1995.
00:44:49All right.
00:44:49So let's get a little deeper into this story of the Coat of Arms.
00:44:54I would have touched on it this morning.
00:44:57Archbishop backs change but worried over costs.
00:44:59So Archbishop of Port-au-Spain Jason Gordon is in support of replacing Christopher Columbus's
00:45:05ships on the National Coat of Arms with the Pan, but he has some concerns about how much
00:45:10it will cost the country.
00:45:11So he was speaking with reporters at the Festival of Santa Rosa, a celebration of
00:45:16the Santa Rosa First Peoples' Community at the Santa Rosa Roman Catholic Church in
00:45:20Arima yesterday.
00:45:21So Gordon said, history can't be changed, adding, if those three ships had never arrived
00:45:28here, we would not be the nation that we are today.
00:45:33He said the fact is that is history.
00:45:36We don't have to like it.
00:45:38We don't have to believe that Columbus was a good man.
00:45:41We don't even have to think that he had noble cause or noble intent.
00:45:47But the fact is that is an integral part of our history.
00:45:51Regarding the Pan, Gordon said focus should be placed on what built culture in the country.
00:45:57He said what didn't come from Africa, what didn't come from India, what didn't come from
00:46:03the First People, what didn't come from any of the ancestors, and the steel pan is that.
00:46:09It is unique to us as a symbol and as a symbol of who we are.
00:46:14Out of a dustbin, a musical instrument was born in the 21st century, and that is us.
00:46:21All right, let's take another call.
00:46:23Good morning, caller.
00:46:24Yeah, good morning, Marlon.
00:46:25Morning.
00:46:26I'm not a great programmer again this morning.
00:46:29Marlon, I want to talk about the just concluded constitutional reform that presented
00:46:37to the government, which was set up by the Prime Minister, headed by Chairman
00:46:44Barry Sennan, Senior Counsel Barry Sennan.
00:46:47Marlon, if you go back to the 1974, you wouldn't...
00:46:56I think we have lost the caller.
00:46:58Have we?
00:47:00Yeah, we have lost the caller.
00:47:01Caller, we apologize, but we have lost you.
00:47:04All right, so you're calling us on 623-1711.
00:47:07It's 1995.
00:47:08If you do have the opportunity, you can please call us again.
00:47:12All right, so we just have a few minutes again to take some of your calls.
00:47:17You're calling us on 623-1711.
00:47:20The extension, it's 1995.
00:47:24So praise for Deokinan and Sharma, iconic figure laid to rest.
00:47:28Dr. Deokinan and Sharma, 87, was remembered as a visionary who helped transform the sugarcane
00:47:35fields of Endeavor Chaguanas into a site that is regarded as the foremost institution
00:47:40for Indian culture, the Diwali Nagara.
00:47:43Who do we have on the line?
00:47:43Port of Spain.
00:47:44Port of Spain, good morning.
00:47:46Morning, Marlon.
00:47:47How are you doing?
00:47:47I'm good.
00:47:49Marlon, it's sad to see these young fellows losing their life and all kind of things,
00:47:52sometimes for little arguments, like that one in Europe.
00:47:56And it is alleged you're saying it's some businessman's son that fall out with him,
00:48:00and they took him into the station last night and whatever and whatever.
00:48:04I don't know when that time will tell you, right?
00:48:07I am saying, you see this marijuana, these young people smoking, it impairs your judgment
00:48:13for when you're thinking and for when you're arguing, especially that and alcohol.
00:48:17And it seems to be that is the order of the day.
00:48:19If you're on Tobago, when a young man sit down and have a proper meal or sit down and
00:48:23have a proper conversation with his folks and so on within his age group, it seems like
00:48:29rum and marijuana and argument and cussing and fighting and stabbing and shooting is
00:48:32the order of the day.
00:48:34So they need to find something beyond this, this, this, this, this chemical thing and
00:48:38this thing that they're using.
00:48:39These most of these young people, I'm saying that they're using that to deal with stress.
00:48:45When the only thing should be used to deal with stress is to talk to God and ask him
00:48:50for guidance.
00:48:51So they need to guide them away from that two thing I just told you there, that marijuana
00:48:55and alcohol that everybody seems to want to be taking so that when a fight breaks out,
00:49:00somebody end up dead.
00:49:02Mr. Amalan, have a pleasant day.
00:49:04You too, sir.
00:49:04You're calling us on 623-1711, the extension.
00:49:07It's 1995.
00:49:08We just have about five minutes to take some of your calls.
00:49:11But, you know, sometimes I want to ask, what are we so angry about in Trinidad and Tobago?
00:49:16I just don't know.
00:49:17We can't speak to each other with that level of respect anymore.
00:49:22We always want to fight and buff up this one and buff up that one.
00:49:25And I'd rather than you.
00:49:28I witnessed a conversation the other day where someone was saying, I have something for you,
00:49:33you know, just a normal conversation and ended up in threats.
00:49:37We do have another call.
00:49:39Malaba, good morning.
00:49:41Yes.
00:49:41Good morning, Marlon.
00:49:43Morning.
00:49:43I am in front of my gateway.
00:49:48I'm unable to come out of my gateway.
00:49:51It is posing a threat to myself and my family.
00:49:54I have an eyesight problem.
00:49:56And I've been calling TST over five days now.
00:49:59And all they are telling me, that matter will be dealt with in 24 hours.
00:50:03And 24 hours has passed in five days now.
00:50:06Nothing has been done about it.
00:50:08All right, sir.
00:50:09And this is going back to my garage.
00:50:11Give the producer your address and we will pass it on for you.
00:50:16And hopefully, there's some resolution to that matter sometime soon.
00:50:21Because, yes, I have witnessed crews in the past, over the past months,
00:50:28taking down some of these cables and really leaving the majority of them hanging all over
00:50:33the place on people's houses, on people's garages and so on.
00:50:38So I was forced to make a call to TST to have them come and remove some of these cables.
00:50:45So I know what is happening.
00:50:47All right.
00:50:48So you're calling us on 623-1711, the extension.
00:50:50It's 1995.
00:50:52So you can please call us now.
00:50:54We just have a few minutes again.
00:50:58I remember a few years ago, this lady called me, right?
00:51:02And it's all in the vein of people just don't know how to speak to people anymore, right?
00:51:06And she calls me.
00:51:07She says, look, I have five children and you have to give me a house.
00:51:12I was like, what?
00:51:14Because she didn't even know.
00:51:16You know, I don't know.
00:51:18Maybe she was emotional.
00:51:20I said, I have to give you a house?
00:51:21She said, yes.
00:51:24I have five children.
00:51:25We have nowhere to live and you have to give me a house.
00:51:28I said, so what about other support in your family?
00:51:33She said, nah, they can't support me, but you had to give me a house.
00:51:37So I'm just giving you an example as to how people speak to people,
00:51:42even when they're asking for something.
00:51:44Sometimes they just don't know how to speak.
00:51:47Yeah, they're aggressive.
00:51:48Very, very aggressive.
00:51:50All right.
00:51:50So you're calling us on 623-1711.
00:51:53The extension is 1995.
00:51:56So you can please call us now.
00:51:58Royal Navy makes major cocaine haul.
00:52:02The British Royal Navy yesterday said it has struck a 550 million pound blow to the Caribbean
00:52:12cocaine trade after one of its patrols, HMS Trent, seized cocaine with a street value of
00:52:18more than 40 million pounds in the Caribbean Sea.
00:52:24All right.
00:52:25So authorities are working, boy.
00:52:28Powder Magazine is on the line.
00:52:29Powder Magazine, good morning.
00:52:31Hi, thank you for taking my call.
00:52:33Blessed morning to you.
00:52:34Yeah, to you too, sir.
00:52:35I want to congratulate the Ministry of Health
00:52:39and in extension the North Regional Health Authority for that initiative of the rapid
00:52:47prostate test, what they did.
00:52:49I was a recipient and I was a negative, and I want to thank the minister and all the staff
00:52:56there who showed up at the mall, Long Circular Mall, and the way they treated us, even giving
00:53:03us a token of appreciation for answering some of the questions with respect to prostate
00:53:10and the seriousness of prostate for men.
00:53:12So I want to take this opportunity this morning and really, really thank the ministry and the
00:53:18minister for that initiative of prostate in terms of men and health care.
00:53:24Thank you very much.
00:53:25Thank you very much, Powder Magazine.
00:53:27And that issue of this prostate test is still very much taboo in Trinidad and Tobago, but
00:53:34now you have the opportunity to take the blood test, right?
00:53:37And they can detect, yeah, if there's anything wrong with you.
00:53:41So think about that, all right?
00:53:43Just don't ignore it, right?
00:53:44Because prostate is not going to, what?
00:53:47I'm being asked if I went.
00:53:48No, I didn't.
00:53:49But over the past three years, actually, I had one of those blood tests earlier this
00:53:55year and for the past two years before.
00:53:59So every year, for the past three years, I've had these tests done.
00:54:02All right, studio?
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01:00:42All right, everybody.
01:00:43So on Saturday, Trinidad and Tobago celebrates its 62nd anniversary
01:00:48as an independent nation.
01:00:50And over the next few days, we are going to reflect with some
01:00:53prominent personalities on our past, present, and what's in store
01:00:59for the future of Trinidad and Tobago.
01:01:01So we do have on the line this morning someone who has sung
01:01:04many popular nation-building songs over the years,
01:01:08namely, Sailing, National Pride, Rights, We Go Come Back, Good As Ever,
01:01:15and I'm sure that there are many, many more.
01:01:18He goes by the name, The Mighty Trinny.
01:01:21Mr. Robert Elias.
01:01:22Trinny, good morning.
01:01:24Morning, Marlon.
01:01:26Trinny, it's good to hear from you this morning.
01:01:30We do appreciate it.
01:01:32Trinny, you know, as I was trying to re-familiarize myself
01:01:37with some of the songs that you would have sung over the years,
01:01:43and to me, Trinny, this is just my impression,
01:01:46I get the feeling that you felt that you had a sense of responsibility
01:01:54to sing these types of nation-building songs.
01:01:58Definitely.
01:02:00My composer was Winsford Devine,
01:02:06what the public knows as Winsford DeVeans,
01:02:09and Winsford always realized that I wanted to do what my mother told me in 1983,
01:02:19his son, and I don't mind you singing,
01:02:22but don't be negative.
01:02:25Always sing and promote your country,
01:02:28promote people, and sing about the best things that could happen.
01:02:35So that was the main intention.
01:02:37That is where I am focused.
01:02:41I suspect, Trinny, it was also an attempt,
01:02:45it was an attempt by you and Winsford DeVeans
01:02:50for people to feel good about their selves,
01:02:55for them to feel good about their Trinbegonian-ness.
01:03:00Sometimes I feel in today's society, Trinny,
01:03:04we don't see ourselves as something being good
01:03:09and being seen as people who can contribute
01:03:13to a better Trinidad and Tobago and the wider world.
01:03:18So again, I believe that these songs were aimed really
01:03:22at making people feel, Trinbegonians feel good about themselves.
01:03:27Most definitely, most definitely.
01:03:29You are correct.
01:03:32Trinny, as we reflect on Trinidad and Tobago,
01:03:36of course, we are going to be reflecting on the past,
01:03:39the present, and even the future
01:03:42as we celebrate our 62nd anniversary as an independent nation.
01:03:50What's your perspective this morning
01:03:52as you look at Trinidad and Tobago in a holistic way?
01:03:58I would like, I would like very much to see that
01:04:06each and every Trinidadian or each and every Trinbegonian
01:04:10feel the way I feel.
01:04:15You know, we all talk about, we love our country,
01:04:19we love our family, we love our children,
01:04:23but there's a motto that I would like to implement.
01:04:29And if you love, as you say you do,
01:04:33well then show, show that you care.
01:04:36Ask yourself today, what can I do today to ask,
01:04:41to show that I care about my country,
01:04:44I care about my children, I care about my family,
01:04:47I care about everything, my job, show it.
01:04:51Don't just say, I love or I care.
01:04:55I would love our people to start showing that they care.
01:05:00But Trinny, isn't all, isn't that all a part of,
01:05:04isn't that all a part of being patriotic?
01:05:09Correct, but it is not happening, Marlon.
01:05:14It's not happening.
01:05:17And as we all know, Satan does not sleep.
01:05:20Satan is on the prowl and he's getting,
01:05:24he's introducing himself to all the younger ones.
01:05:29And idleness, idleness is something that Satan throngs on.
01:05:38Let's look at some of your songs, Trinny.
01:05:41Sailing, National Pride, Rights,
01:05:46and you know, I was taking in,
01:05:49we go come back good as ever.
01:05:52And you won that song with Gypsy
01:05:55and also Denise Plummer.
01:05:58And when you all sang that song,
01:06:00it was a part of rebuilding Trinidad and Tobago.
01:06:05Well, I believe that would have followed
01:06:07the 1990 insurrection.
01:06:10Correct.
01:06:14Is it that, that you, that the insurrection,
01:06:18the attempted coup that inspired that song?
01:06:21And for those who can't remember,
01:06:23what was the message in that song, Trinny?
01:06:27To have courage and national pride
01:06:31and to stand tall and strong
01:06:34and put our shoulders together.
01:06:37We go build back down, we go come around.
01:06:42We go come back good as ever.
01:06:46We go come back good as ever.
01:06:50Back good as ever.
01:06:52That, those words are strong, meaningful words.
01:06:59Let's look at a few other songs.
01:07:01Sailing and National Pride.
01:07:04And you know, sometimes I say
01:07:06right here on this program, Trinny,
01:07:09that songs such as yours
01:07:12and other Calypsonians,
01:07:15that they really need to be inculcated
01:07:18in some way in the school curriculum.
01:07:21Because some of the messages
01:07:26in these compositions are very, very profound
01:07:30and can be beneficial to Trinidad and Tobago.
01:07:36Correct.
01:07:38And if you listen to one other song
01:07:41that Winsford put,
01:07:44when Winsford wrote his first book,
01:07:47he implemented on the first page of his book,
01:07:52we are the citizens.
01:07:55We are who responsible for the way
01:07:58how it is in our society today.
01:08:01We are the parents of children
01:08:04destined to be men and women tomorrow,
01:08:06if and when.
01:08:08That is the Winsford that I know
01:08:10that loved Trinidad and Tobago and loved people.
01:08:15He was never, he's always in love.
01:08:19But let's look at this relationship a little bit
01:08:22between you and Winsford DeVeans.
01:08:26Is it that he would approach you with these songs
01:08:30or is it that you would approach him and say,
01:08:33look, Mr. DeVeans, Winsford,
01:08:35I want to sing this year.
01:08:38What was that process like?
01:08:41Did you approach him or did he approach you?
01:08:44No, I always came up with an idea.
01:08:47For instance, sailing.
01:08:49It was a Friday morning at 7.10 a.m.
01:08:52Dave Elcock put on a song on his radio station
01:08:56that program that he was working about the sinking ship.
01:09:01This is December 1986
01:09:07for the 87 Carnival.
01:09:09I already had Parita Blanca.
01:09:12I already had Tabanca on the top, top.
01:09:15It was on the top of the list for Carnival 87.
01:09:20And I remember as I heard the song,
01:09:21I called Joker, I said,
01:09:23Joker, I'm coming down by here tonight.
01:09:25What happened?
01:09:26I said, just so that song by Gypsy
01:09:29that we are sinking ship and I'm not accepting that.
01:09:32He said, Trin, you relax yourself.
01:09:34You have a big song now.
01:09:35Concentrate on that.
01:09:37I said, nah, I can't wait till next year.
01:09:39I'm coming down tonight.
01:09:41And that is how I sail in with the boat,
01:09:44sink or float, I sail in with the boat.
01:09:47And in order to the audience to recognize
01:09:52what he wanted to project,
01:09:55he gave me a verse.
01:09:57And if it is my tongue slip,
01:10:00and I say, boat or not ship,
01:10:02do vex with me.
01:10:04I say, do vex with me.
01:10:07When I sing that song, Marlon,
01:10:08my paws and my hand is raised.
01:10:11Trini, but aren't these songs really forever green songs?
01:10:17Because I think that,
01:10:19you know, some of the same issues
01:10:21that we were dealing with back in the day,
01:10:25we are still dealing with the same issues today.
01:10:31Correct.
01:10:34I have understood any who plot a mutiny
01:10:38and are watching them.
01:10:40Imagine that in 1987,
01:10:45he wrote that line.
01:10:47That is the start of the first word.
01:10:51I have understood any who plot a mutiny
01:10:55and it happened today.
01:10:59Trini, as you look,
01:11:01and you did touch on it,
01:11:02as you look and really reflect
01:11:06on Trinidad and Tobago today
01:11:09and the future,
01:11:11what do you see for us?
01:11:14Well, unless,
01:11:16unless the authorities direct their minds
01:11:23and their actions with the little ones,
01:11:26because the same Gypsy who sang Sinking Ship
01:11:28sang a song that I have always told him
01:11:32I am proud of him for.
01:11:34Our children are tomorrow's people.
01:11:37And if we don't direct our attention
01:11:41to the little ones, Marlon,
01:11:45they will not implement or follow our ways.
01:11:50Whatever language we use at home,
01:11:53whatever things we say or do,
01:11:55the children are going to follow.
01:11:58And it is time that the Ministry of Education
01:12:01direct their eyes and their ears
01:12:07towards the little ones
01:12:08and the primary schools.
01:12:11Trini, I just have about a minute again.
01:12:14I'd allow you to give your greetings
01:12:18to Trinidad and Tobago
01:12:19on this 62nd anniversary of our independence.
01:12:24What's your message, Trini?
01:12:26My message to the authorities
01:12:28and to every Trinidad and Tobagoanian
01:12:31is that I wish them peace of mind
01:12:34and good health.
01:12:35And I wish that everything good
01:12:38comes to Trinidad and Tobago
01:12:40in the near future.
01:12:41We are going through a time now
01:12:44that Satan is monopolizing on.
01:12:47When I was growing up,
01:12:48I was taught to always occupy myself
01:12:52doing good things
01:12:53so that Satan cannot prowl on my brain.
01:12:57I am asking the younger ones to think twice
01:13:01before doing anything
01:13:04illegal or in any disorderly fashion.
01:13:09Love your country, Trinidad and Tobago.
01:13:11Love it.
01:13:12It is the best in the world.
01:13:14We are still the best.
01:13:16We are still the best.
01:13:18Carnival, fun, calypso, people,
01:13:22love, quattro, Christmas.
01:13:25You call it and we have the best here.
01:13:29Trini, it's always a pleasure speaking with you.
01:13:32And thank you very much
01:13:33for the music over the years.
01:13:34Can we expect a few more songs
01:13:36in the future, Trini?
01:13:38There's one in the making now
01:13:41that came out of 2019
01:13:44when I sang the 101%.
01:13:46And Kurt Allen has done a masterpiece for me.
01:13:50It's only a matter of time
01:13:51for me to go into the studio and do it.
01:13:53Yeah.
01:13:54Trini, thank you very much again.
01:13:55We do appreciate it.
01:13:56Bye for now and take care.
01:13:59God bless, Martin.
01:14:00All right.
01:14:00So it's time for a quick break, everybody.
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01:16:12So welcome back, everyone.
01:16:13So we have been celebrating
01:16:14Steel Band Month
01:16:15in Trinidad and Tobago.
01:16:17This morning, we discussed
01:16:18pan culture and heritage
01:16:19with former vice president
01:16:21of Pan Trinbago, Mr. Byron Serrett.
01:16:23Mr. Serrett, thank you very much
01:16:24for coming this morning.
01:16:25Thank you very much, Marlon.
01:16:26Good morning.
01:16:27Good morning to all of you.
01:16:28Mr. Serrett, what's the
01:16:29what's your message this morning
01:16:31as we celebrate Steel Band Month?
01:16:34Steel Band, the Steel Pan
01:16:37is the cultural heritage
01:16:38of Trinidad and Tobago.
01:16:41The fact that we have recently
01:16:46passed an act that made it
01:16:48officially the national
01:16:49musical instrument.
01:16:50It has been the national
01:16:52musical instrument from 1992,
01:16:54August of 1992.
01:16:56And August being Steel Band Month
01:16:59is a reflection of many things
01:17:01that happened in the Steel Band
01:17:03all through its years.
01:17:05From as far back as 1950,
01:17:08when the first Steel Band
01:17:09organization was formed,
01:17:11it was done in August.
01:17:13And Pan Trinbago,
01:17:15that was formed in 1971,
01:17:17was formed in August.
01:17:20Then we had the announcement
01:17:23of Pan being the national instrument
01:17:24by former Prime Minister,
01:17:27Dr. Patrick Manning.
01:17:29That was also was done
01:17:30on the 30th of August of 1992.
01:17:34But there are many other things
01:17:35that happened in the Steel Band
01:17:37for a moment that happened in August.
01:17:39That is how Mr.
01:17:40the late Mr. Owen Serrett
01:17:43decided that August
01:17:44would be Steel Band Month.
01:17:46Well, also you had
01:17:48World Steel Pan Day.
01:17:51This year was its
01:17:53first anniversary.
01:17:54So you had that.
01:17:56Over the past few hours,
01:17:58we are now hearing about
01:17:59and the Prime Minister
01:18:00announced it yesterday.
01:18:01We're having a $100 million
01:18:06Pan Trinbago headquarters.
01:18:09So a lot of things
01:18:10are happening in Pan.
01:18:11How do you feel about that?
01:18:12Mr. Serrett?
01:18:13Well, it's kind of bittersweet,
01:18:16to be honest.
01:18:18Because if I'm to speak
01:18:20a little bit about headquarters,
01:18:24you know, being in the movement
01:18:26from since I was like,
01:18:28I started to play Pan
01:18:29when I was about 13.
01:18:31I got involved
01:18:32in Steel Band organization
01:18:34Pan Trinbago
01:18:34when it was formed in 1971.
01:18:36I was a young 20 year old at the time.
01:18:40And the first approach
01:18:43to Pan Trinbago
01:18:45and Pan having their own land
01:18:48was when Dr. Eric Williams
01:18:51gave land to Pan Trinbago
01:18:52in Chagaramas.
01:18:55Unfortunately, in 1974,
01:18:57when the Chagaramas
01:18:58Development Authority
01:18:59was proclaimed,
01:19:02there was a little bit of a war
01:19:04between Pan Trinbago
01:19:05and the Chagaramas
01:19:06Development Authority
01:19:07as to the ownership
01:19:08of the lands in Chagaramas.
01:19:10So many years later,
01:19:13former Prime Minister Pandey
01:19:15decided to,
01:19:17let's not look at Chagaramas.
01:19:18I'm going to give you all
01:19:19some land in the East,
01:19:21in Trin City.
01:19:25We had some promises.
01:19:27The last major promise
01:19:29that I was present for
01:19:30was the former head of
01:19:38Mr. Calderhart.
01:19:40We had a meeting with him
01:19:41and he indicated that
01:19:44he was finishing Napa at the time.
01:19:45It was 2009.
01:19:47He was going to Sapa
01:19:48and then to finish the Pan Trinbago
01:19:50headquarters up in the East.
01:19:52Of course, we know things happened
01:19:53and he left the country.
01:19:55So again, the building was left
01:20:00to become in the state that it was.
01:20:01But is this good news?
01:20:04That's why I say it's bittersweet.
01:20:05It's good and bad
01:20:07because you don't sneeze
01:20:08at 13 acres of land.
01:20:11You don't sneeze at 13 acres of land
01:20:13for a high-rise building
01:20:15in Port of Spain
01:20:15from where I see it.
01:20:17I'm not an expert in land
01:20:19and real property and so on.
01:20:21The old post office.
01:20:22The old post office.
01:20:24It's Udicot who is going
01:20:25to build a building there.
01:20:27It was the same Udicot
01:20:28that was going to complete
01:20:29the building up at TrinCity.
01:20:32And there are many things
01:20:34that could be done in 13 acres
01:20:35that cannot be done
01:20:36in a high-rise building.
01:20:38Not to mention the fact that
01:20:41a lot of people in the steel band,
01:20:43I think the majority of people
01:20:44in the steel band
01:20:45will not be too happy
01:20:47with what took place in TrinCity.
01:20:52TrinCity said something
01:20:56to the steel band people.
01:20:59And we believe that
01:21:02there are opportunities
01:21:04for all sorts of economic activity
01:21:09and activity
01:21:11close to the steel band movement,
01:21:12tuning, chroming, so on, so on.
01:21:13All those things
01:21:14could have been placed
01:21:16up at TrinCity.
01:21:18So we're not 100% happy
01:21:21and we'll have to wait
01:21:22to see if Udicot will finally
01:21:24step up to the plate.
01:21:27Let's talk about another issue
01:21:29that has been making the news
01:21:30over the past few days.
01:21:32Of course, the prime minister
01:21:34has taken the decision
01:21:35and really announced
01:21:36that the pan is going to be put
01:21:38on the coat of arms.
01:21:41Okay, I will respond to you this way.
01:21:44So the creation of the steel pan
01:21:51was done by the grassroots,
01:21:53as we would say,
01:21:53the ordinary man in the street.
01:21:57And we have been ahead
01:21:58of the people and the politics
01:22:01for a long time.
01:22:03The question of the pan
01:22:05being a national symbol,
01:22:08that has been discussed
01:22:09in Panjimbegu
01:22:10ever since the 70s.
01:22:13Some people discussed at the time
01:22:15that it should go on the flag.
01:22:16Some people suggested
01:22:17it would go on the coat of arms.
01:22:19There are a few reports
01:22:20circulating on social media now,
01:22:22where many people,
01:22:24it made the media
01:22:26different designs by the pan.
01:22:28So we in the steel pan movement,
01:22:30we have been discussing
01:22:32pan as a national icon
01:22:34being on one of our...
01:22:36And if you look at any major event
01:22:39taking place in Trinidad and Tobago,
01:22:42some aspect of the pan
01:22:43is included on their logos and so on
01:22:46to show how much pan is part of.
01:22:49So this really is coming
01:22:51after the game, late.
01:22:52You feel that pan in Trinidad and Tobago
01:22:56is finally getting the respect
01:22:58that it deserves?
01:23:00No, I don't think so.
01:23:02We are up,
01:23:04the Prime Minister made his announcement
01:23:06and there's all this politics
01:23:08going on around pan these days
01:23:10and everybody is excited.
01:23:12But if you love something,
01:23:14you first have to respect it.
01:23:16And we don't respect the pan.
01:23:19There are many things
01:23:20that could have been done over the years
01:23:22that pan would have been more advanced now.
01:23:25Many, many things.
01:23:27And it's not rocket science.
01:23:29But we continue,
01:23:31I consider to pay lip service
01:23:34without being disrespectful.
01:23:37If I should just go back
01:23:39to the land issue a little bit.
01:23:41I heard the Minister of Culture
01:23:44in the debate
01:23:45to make the pan the national instrument,
01:23:47more or less boasting
01:23:49that the government took away the land
01:23:52from pan Trinbigo or pan Trin city.
01:23:55I wonder if he understood
01:23:57what he was saying.
01:23:59And I wonder,
01:24:00I also wonder
01:24:01if in the whole of Trinidad and Tobago,
01:24:03if that was the only piece of land
01:24:05that was suitable
01:24:07for what they said
01:24:09they took the land for.
01:24:11Mr. Serret, time is against us this morning.
01:24:13And I'm sure that you do have a lot to tell us.
01:24:15But we just have about a minute again.
01:24:18Yeah.
01:24:18Yeah.
01:24:19GI,
01:24:20you would have liked us to say.
01:24:21Geographical indicator.
01:24:23It is the,
01:24:25it is probably the last opportunity
01:24:29for intellectual property
01:24:31for the steel pan.
01:24:33So it's important that we do it.
01:24:35However, there have been some issues
01:24:36around what has been done,
01:24:38how it has been done,
01:24:39and so on and so on.
01:24:40Whether pan Trinbigo is the,
01:24:42is the right and proper agency
01:24:46to have the GI.
01:24:48And not only that,
01:24:50there is also a fear
01:24:52in the steel band community
01:24:54that pan Trinbigo is acting as an agent
01:24:58for somebody else for that GI.
01:24:59That's a fear.
01:25:01That's a real fear
01:25:02in the steel band movement.
01:25:03Especially among the makers
01:25:05of the instrument, the tuners.
01:25:07Yeah.
01:25:07So geographical indicator
01:25:09because people talk a lot about patenting,
01:25:12but the pan cannot be patented.
01:25:14The things that,
01:25:14that have to be satisfied
01:25:16for the pan to be patented.
01:25:17Yes.
01:25:17It no longer exists.
01:25:19Mr. Syrett, as I said,
01:25:20unfortunately, we have run out of time.
01:25:22We will continue this discussion
01:25:24at a later date.
01:25:24Yes.
01:25:25But we do thank you
01:25:26for coming this morning
01:25:27and spending this time with us.
01:25:29Thank you.
01:25:29Bye for now.
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01:27:25All right,
01:27:26so welcome back everyone.
01:27:28And of course,
01:27:28you will get the opportunity
01:27:30a little later,
01:27:31a little later
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01:27:34for today's match.
01:27:36All right,
01:27:36so it's time now
01:27:37for our CPL segment.
01:27:39And of course,
01:27:40with the WCPL
01:27:41on the homestretch this week,
01:27:43we are focusing on the women's game.
01:27:45Joining us today
01:27:46is Australian top order batter,
01:27:49Georgia Redmayne.
01:27:50Georgia has made her name
01:27:51on the T20 circuit
01:27:54during her career so far,
01:27:56having played in leagues
01:27:57in England,
01:27:58Australia,
01:27:59and of this year
01:28:01right here in the Caribbean
01:28:02with the Barbados Royals.
01:28:04Good morning
01:28:05and thank you very much
01:28:05for joining us this morning, Georgia.
01:28:07It's a pleasure.
01:28:09Good morning.
01:28:09Great to be here in the Caribbean.
01:28:11And yeah,
01:28:11thanks for having me on.
01:28:12Of course.
01:28:13Well, Georgia,
01:28:14I can say that something
01:28:16seems to be going well
01:28:17for the Barbados Royals, right?
01:28:20Yeah, I think I'm kind of picked up
01:28:22where they left off last year.
01:28:24Yeah, I'm really excited
01:28:25to kind of join the team.
01:28:26They obviously had a great success
01:28:27in the tournament last year
01:28:28and yeah,
01:28:29started off with two wins back to back.
01:28:31We've had a good couple of days off
01:28:33and yeah, back at it tonight.
01:28:34So yeah,
01:28:35I think it's just been
01:28:36a really relaxed vibe in the group.
01:28:38The girls have been great.
01:28:39They're so welcoming.
01:28:40And yeah,
01:28:41Hayley Matthews has been on fire,
01:28:42which certainly helps as well.
01:28:44Yeah.
01:28:45And let me ask you,
01:28:47I don't want to ask you
01:28:49about your secrets
01:28:51because I'm sure that the other teams
01:28:53may be listening this morning,
01:28:54right, Georgia?
01:28:55But what do you think
01:28:56has been working well
01:28:58for your team
01:28:59really the success
01:29:00that you all have been having?
01:29:03Yeah, probably a mixture of things.
01:29:05As I said before,
01:29:05it's a really relaxed environment.
01:29:07Everyone seems really calm and comfortable.
01:29:10And obviously we're led very well.
01:29:12Hayley Matthews,
01:29:13captain of West Indies team
01:29:14and been very successful in this comp
01:29:17and knows the players really well
01:29:18and how to use them throughout the game.
01:29:21I think the domestic players
01:29:22have been outstanding.
01:29:23I think when you play in domestic leagues
01:29:25around the comp,
01:29:25it's not about which imports you bring in.
01:29:27It's more about the strength
01:29:28of the domestic players.
01:29:29And I think, you know,
01:29:30they've been fantastic for us.
01:29:32Chanel Henry picked up
01:29:33a couple of quick wickets early.
01:29:35Our last game against Trimbago.
01:29:37And yeah, like I think, yeah,
01:29:40Alaia Lee as well has been fantastic.
01:29:42And Keanu Joseph, too.
01:29:45So, yeah, we've had some really great
01:29:46domestic players stand up
01:29:47and really make a mark on the tournament.
01:29:49And it's great as, you know,
01:29:50as an international coming in,
01:29:51just trying to fill in
01:29:53the gaps here and there
01:29:53and help the team get a win.
01:29:57Yeah.
01:29:57And as you analyze
01:29:59the success of the team thus far
01:30:02and we have discussed
01:30:03what you think that has been working,
01:30:05but what have been
01:30:06some of the challenges?
01:30:10Obviously, it's a very short tournament.
01:30:13So, you know, if you're out of form
01:30:15or you have a bad start,
01:30:16it's obviously really hard to come back.
01:30:17So we've been really lucky
01:30:19with the Barbados Royals
01:30:21that we've had a really strong start.
01:30:23There's only four round games
01:30:24and then a final.
01:30:25So I think, yeah,
01:30:27the Trinidad team,
01:30:29they won in a super over last night.
01:30:31I was actually in bed at the time,
01:30:33but I woke up and saw the results,
01:30:34which is pretty, pretty amazing.
01:30:36So they're obviously trying
01:30:38to make a comeback
01:30:39that had two losses early.
01:30:40So, yeah, it's certainly going
01:30:42to make an interesting end
01:30:43of an interesting end of the tournament.
01:30:44But yeah, obviously,
01:30:45short tournament makes it really hard
01:30:47to try to keep form
01:30:50all the way through.
01:30:51And yeah, obviously,
01:30:53kind of short turnaround
01:30:54as in terms of getting the team together
01:30:56at the start of the tournament
01:30:57before we play games.
01:30:58So kind of meeting everyone
01:30:59and then suddenly being out
01:31:00playing one day in.
01:31:03Does make it difficult.
01:31:03But I think I think we've navigated
01:31:05that really well.
01:31:06Yeah.
01:31:07Georgia, I want you to speak
01:31:08a little bit to the fans now,
01:31:10because they are very,
01:31:12very important to the game.
01:31:14And I want you to speak a little bit
01:31:16as to what the fans will experience
01:31:19when they do come down
01:31:21to see these final games of the WCPL.
01:31:26I think they'll see a lot of enjoyment.
01:31:29It's probably pretty rare
01:31:30to play in a league
01:31:30where you just see players out there
01:31:32having so much fun.
01:31:33The Wicket celebrations are like nothing
01:31:35I've probably played in before,
01:31:38which is really cool.
01:31:39I think the atmosphere
01:31:40at the ground is amazing.
01:31:42The drummers there,
01:31:43they're very loud.
01:31:44So it builds a great atmosphere.
01:31:46Sometimes we struggle to hear each other
01:31:48on the field because it's so loud.
01:31:49But it makes it just a fun
01:31:51kind of party environment.
01:31:53And, you know, it's great to come down
01:31:54and just watch some cricket
01:31:56and have a good time, really.
01:31:57I think everyone's there
01:31:58with a smile on their face
01:32:00and enjoying it.
01:32:01So I think it's no different
01:32:02for those in the crowd as well.
01:32:03Yeah, but what has the experience
01:32:05been for you?
01:32:09Yeah, it's been great.
01:32:10It's my first time over
01:32:11playing in the Caribbean,
01:32:13so I'm loving it so far.
01:32:14Only two games in, but yeah,
01:32:16certainly the atmosphere
01:32:17at the ground is something unique,
01:32:19I think, to the Caribbean.
01:32:20And I'm really enjoying that.
01:32:22And I think, yeah,
01:32:25it's really great talent, too.
01:32:26Obviously, we've got some
01:32:27really great local players
01:32:29as well as some really great
01:32:30international players.
01:32:31So, you know, it feels like
01:32:32a really good standard comp.
01:32:34Yeah, I'm really enjoying it.
01:32:36It's a great experience
01:32:37on and off the field.
01:32:37Yeah. Let's talk a little bit
01:32:39about the women's game
01:32:41in general, Georgia.
01:32:44And let's talk about your
01:32:45introduction into the game
01:32:47and what you would have experienced
01:32:49at that time.
01:32:50And let's look at the development
01:32:52of the game over the years.
01:32:54And let's look at some of the strides
01:32:57taken in the game.
01:33:00Yeah, well, I think when I started
01:33:02playing cricket, I never thought
01:33:04it would be a career.
01:33:05It was just a hobby,
01:33:06something I enjoyed.
01:33:07I never thought I'd still be playing,
01:33:10you know, kind of later on in life
01:33:12and getting paid to play.
01:33:13I think that was such a bizarre thought.
01:33:16It wasn't professional
01:33:17when I started playing.
01:33:18And yeah, someone had told me
01:33:19when I was 18 that I'd be
01:33:21a professional cricketer
01:33:22over 10 years time.
01:33:23I would have laughed at them.
01:33:25So I think it's amazing
01:33:26how much the game's developed,
01:33:28you know, the last 10 years or so.
01:33:29It's been incredible, obviously.
01:33:31Back home in Australia,
01:33:32they started the Women's Big Bash League,
01:33:34which is going into its 10th year.
01:33:36It's got the 100 in England,
01:33:37then the WPL in India,
01:33:40and now the CPL here.
01:33:41So it's really great to see the leagues
01:33:42building up and giving so many
01:33:44opportunities to players.
01:33:45And I think as well,
01:33:47the growth in domestic games as well.
01:33:49So it's not just international players
01:33:51that are getting those opportunities.
01:33:52It's really good for domestic players
01:33:54to be able to play professional cricket
01:33:56and have that as a really nice pathway.
01:33:58I think it's certainly night and day
01:34:00from when I started.
01:34:01I grew up, you know,
01:34:02there was no women's cricket on the TV.
01:34:04All of my heroes were, you know,
01:34:05your Adam Gilchrist and your Michael Hussey.
01:34:07And, you know, now boys and girls
01:34:09can have women's cricketers
01:34:11as their heroes growing up and role models,
01:34:13which I think is really special.
01:34:14Yeah. So I think it is safe to say
01:34:16that you have seen developments,
01:34:18that the fan base is growing,
01:34:20that the support is growing
01:34:22because over the past few weeks,
01:34:24we have been having discussions
01:34:26with some of your colleagues
01:34:29and other players, women cricketers.
01:34:33And it's unfortunate that sometimes
01:34:39the fans compare the women's game
01:34:43to the men's game.
01:34:46But can we say,
01:34:49and you can confirm that for us this morning,
01:34:51that you think that the fan base is growing
01:34:54and more corporate entities
01:34:58are coming on board
01:34:59to support the women's game?
01:35:03Yeah, I think, you know, year on year,
01:35:04I think there's more entities
01:35:06involved in the women's game.
01:35:09I've just come over from playing
01:35:10the 100 in the UK,
01:35:11and that was probably
01:35:11one of the best experiences
01:35:13I've had in terms of, you know,
01:35:14playing in front of over 20,000 people
01:35:17at Lords for a final.
01:35:19That was incredible.
01:35:20And, you know, over there,
01:35:21it's people don't turn out
01:35:23to watch the women or the men.
01:35:24They're there to watch their favourite team.
01:35:26So it doesn't really matter to them
01:35:28if it's women, men, you know,
01:35:31the people are there in the stands
01:35:32and they're just so excited
01:35:33to see a cricketer from their favourite team,
01:35:35which I think is really cool.
01:35:36Obviously, the games are different.
01:35:38We're built differently.
01:35:39So the games are going to look different.
01:35:41The women can't really rely on
01:35:43brute, you know, power and force
01:35:46to get their runs or to bowl fast.
01:35:48So it requires maybe a lot more
01:35:50delicate and skill factor as well.
01:35:53So trying to score in different ways
01:35:54and that type of thing.
01:35:55So it does make it a different game.
01:35:58But yeah, I think at the end of the day,
01:36:00it's really nice to have the teams
01:36:01aligned with the men's team.
01:36:02So, you know, the fan base
01:36:04can support both teams,
01:36:06which is really cool.
01:36:07All right, Georgia, please stay with us.
01:36:09We are going to a very short break, everybody.
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01:40:39All right, so welcome back, everyone.
01:40:41So we are continuing our discussion with Australian top order batter,
01:40:45Georgia Redman of the Barbados Royals.
01:40:49All right.
01:40:49But before we continue our discussion, we are giving you the opportunity now
01:40:53to win some tickets.
01:40:54So you're calling us on six to seven, 17, 11, six to three, 17, 11.
01:41:00The extension, it's 1995 again, six to three, 17, 11.
01:41:03The extension, it's 1995 again, six to three, 17, 11.
01:41:06The extension, it's 1995 again, six to three, 17, 11.
01:41:08The extension, it's 1995.
01:41:11And Georgia, I believe she has the question for our viewers.
01:41:16Georgia, could you please give us the question?
01:41:19No worries, it's quite simple.
01:41:20So which team won the women's CPL last year?
01:41:24All right. Which team won the women's CPL last year?
01:41:29All right. So we don't have a lot of time.
01:41:31You're calling us on six to three, 17, 11.
01:41:34The extension, it's 1995.
01:41:35And these tickets are for this evening's game. Right, studio?
01:41:40All right. So. OK, so.
01:41:42All right. So, Georgia, let's speak a little bit.
01:41:45You're a top order batter.
01:41:48Now, to me, Georgia, this places a certain level of responsibility
01:41:54and it's a very weighty responsibility that you do have.
01:42:00Of course, there are many aspects of of cricket, fielding,
01:42:05bowling, batting.
01:42:07Why did you choose batting?
01:42:11Well, I'm also a wicketkeeper, so I reckon that's the most important skill.
01:42:15I'm a little bit biased towards that.
01:42:17But yeah, I think, you know, I'm someone who always likes to be in the game
01:42:22and I like to face as many balls as possible.
01:42:24So, yeah, being able to bat at the top gives me that opportunity.
01:42:28And it's really good.
01:42:30I think I think when I was a youngster, I tried out bowling,
01:42:33but turned out I was never going to be fast enough or good enough.
01:42:37That's I kind of gave that that up quickly.
01:42:39And yeah, I've always enjoyed batting.
01:42:40Probably comes from a lot of days in childhood facing my brother
01:42:44in the backyard, I'd say.
01:42:45But yeah, it's certainly nice to be able to get that opportunity up front
01:42:50and try to set the time for the game.
01:42:51All right, Georgia, well, we do have a caller on the line.
01:42:54Caller, good morning.
01:42:56Hi, good morning.
01:42:57Do you have the answer for us?
01:42:59Is that Bobby Lathroya?
01:43:01Georgia, is she correct?
01:43:04She is correct.
01:43:05Congratulations.
01:43:08All right. Thank you very much.
01:43:10So we are still giving away a lot more tickets, right?
01:43:13So you're calling us on 623 1711, the extension.
01:43:16It's 1995.
01:43:18And for those who do not know, Georgia is a medical doctor.
01:43:24Georgia, how do you choose cricket over being a medical doctor
01:43:29or do they go hand in hand?
01:43:34I'm not sure they go hand in hand that well.
01:43:36But yeah, well, kind of as I was saying earlier,
01:43:39like I think when I started uni,
01:43:40I never really thought I'd be a professional cricketer.
01:43:42So I kind of just, you know, was studying and playing cricket on the side.
01:43:46And yeah, I kind of fell into the professional cricketer by accident,
01:43:50almost kind of doing well in club cricket.
01:43:53And then I think I got an opportunity in Big Bash and found out,
01:43:57turned out I really enjoyed it.
01:43:58So kind of since then, I've been been trying to do whatever I can
01:44:02to kind of balance both throughout like the back end of my uni
01:44:06and when I started my internship.
01:44:08But yeah, at the moment, it's certainly probably more in the cricket favour.
01:44:12It certainly is nicer working hours and less stressful
01:44:15just chasing a ball around the field.
01:44:16But yeah, I probably haven't worked as much in the last year or two
01:44:21than I had done previously.
01:44:22But, you know, being able to travel the world and play cricket,
01:44:25I certainly don't miss the hospital wards too much when I'm able to do that.
01:44:28Yeah. But how did you break the news to your parents, Georgia?
01:44:36I think I think that they're massive cricket fans.
01:44:39So I think the fact that they get to come and watch me play cricket,
01:44:42they're not too upset.
01:44:43So I've still got the degree.
01:44:44So, you know, I can still still claim it.
01:44:47Still got the title.
01:44:48But yeah, I think I think there's such cricket,
01:44:51such cricket fans.
01:44:52I think, you know, being able to watch me play over the world is is pretty cool.
01:44:56Yeah. All right.
01:44:57So again, you're calling us on 623 1711, the extension.
01:45:01It's 1995.
01:45:03So we are giving away a few more tickets.
01:45:07Georgia, I don't mean to put you on the spot, but do you have
01:45:11another question for us that we can ask our viewers?
01:45:14Very simple.
01:45:16I've got another question.
01:45:17So last night's match ended in a super over.
01:45:22Which team won the game?
01:45:24Beautiful. Beautiful.
01:45:25Women's Georgia is on the ball this morning.
01:45:29You're calling us on 623 1711.
01:45:31The extension. It's 1995.
01:45:35Georgia, I think that you did speak a little bit about it earlier.
01:45:40But let's look at the opportunities
01:45:43that are now available to our women in in women's cricket.
01:45:51Yeah, like I think kind of we touched on it a little bit earlier,
01:45:54but yeah, the fact that.
01:45:56All right, Georgia, I don't mean to cut in,
01:45:59but we are joined by one of our callers.
01:46:01A good morning, caller.
01:46:03Do you have the answer for us?
01:46:05But the question.
01:46:08Caller, the question,
01:46:10all right, Georgia, could you repeat the question for a caller?
01:46:15So the question is, last night's women's
01:46:18CPL game ended in a super over which team won?
01:46:24Was it Diana?
01:46:26No, caller. No.
01:46:30Caller, you need to you need to you need to check your information
01:46:32and call us back.
01:46:34So you're calling us on 623 1711.
01:46:36The extension is 1995.
01:46:37Please call us now with the right answer.
01:46:39We want to give away these tickets.
01:46:41Yeah, we do.
01:46:42All right. So here's what Georgia and to our viewers,
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01:51:49So welcome back, everyone.
01:51:50So we are continuing our discussion with Georgia Redman of the Barbados Royals.
01:51:56Of course, we are discussing the WCPL.
01:52:01Do we have a caller?
01:52:03All right.
01:52:04Caller, good morning.
01:52:07Do you have the correct answer for us?
01:52:12Caller, are you there?
01:52:15All right.
01:52:16Studio, I believe you need to, I believe we have some interference there.
01:52:21Caller, we want to give you these tickets, you know.
01:52:24Is the caller there?
01:52:26All right.
01:52:27We will have to, hopefully we will try to get in contact with that caller again.
01:52:33Georgia, let's speak about the opportunities that are available for our women or women cricketers.
01:52:41Yeah, we were kind of touching on it before.
01:52:44But yeah, like obviously opportunities have grown so much, you know, in the last 10 years.
01:52:48And, you know, previously it had just been maybe like the international players who were getting those opportunities to play and get paid to travel and play.
01:52:55But, you know, now we see so many domestic leagues popping up all around the world, Australia, England, India.
01:53:01Here in the Caribbean, which is so exciting to see those domestic players get exposed to kind of high-level quality cricket,
01:53:09playing against the best cricketers in the world, which is great because it helps grow the domestic talent,
01:53:14helps create more professionals in the system, and then that just strengthens the whole system.
01:53:19So, yeah, it's obviously so exciting.
01:53:22Yeah, we've seen it in so many countries.
01:53:24And, yeah, the style of the CPL has been fantastic for the women here.
01:53:28And, you know, hopefully we see maybe more teams expanded to the comp as well.
01:53:32It would be great to kind of match the men.
01:53:34So I'm hoping that would be a vision for the future of the comp.
01:53:38Yeah. All right.
01:53:39So we do have a caller on the line.
01:53:41Good morning, caller.
01:53:43Hi, good morning, Marlon.
01:53:44Good morning.
01:53:45Do you have the correct answer?
01:53:47Please give it to us.
01:53:48Yeah, it says TKR.
01:53:50Yeah?
01:53:51Yeah, it says TKR.
01:53:52Georgia, I think he's correct, right?
01:53:55Correct.
01:53:56Correct.
01:53:57Very close game and then into a super over last night.
01:53:59TKR.
01:54:00Yeah.
01:54:01All right.
01:54:02Thank you very much, caller.
01:54:03And congratulations, caller.
01:54:04Of course, those tickets are for this evening's game.
01:54:08Georgia, as we approach the next few games and also the finals, what can fans expect?
01:54:21Yeah, obviously, you know, we've got three teams that have to go down to two for the finals.
01:54:25So, yeah, it's going to be a tight race.
01:54:27I think, you know, all options are still on the cards.
01:54:30So, obviously, Barbados, if we get one more win, we'll be able to go through having two wins already.
01:54:38But, say, if we don't win, it could be anyone's game.
01:54:42And then, yeah, obviously, TKR have just got their first win on the board.
01:54:47Guyana have one win on the board, too.
01:54:49So it's going to be really interesting kind of jostling for those final spots.
01:54:53So, yeah, I'm expecting some really good cricket.
01:54:55Obviously, all teams have played against each other now.
01:54:58So they'll go in with a bit more info and maybe some more specific game plans for the opposition.
01:55:03Yeah, it should be really exciting.
01:55:05Then, obviously, finals day, and it could be any of the three teams playing in that game
01:55:10and any of the three teams taking home the trophy.
01:55:12We've seen some really close games so far.
01:55:14Obviously, the Super Over last night, our first game against Guyana came down to the last wicket and the last over.
01:55:22So, yeah, there's certainly been some very close games.
01:55:25And, yeah, excited to see what happens the next few days.
01:55:29Yeah, Georgia Redman, it was a pleasure speaking with you this morning.
01:55:32We do appreciate it.
01:55:33Thank you very much, and we wish you and your team all the best.
01:55:37Thanks so much for having me on.
01:55:38All right, bye for now.
01:55:39All right, so that's going to be it for our program for today.
01:55:41See you tomorrow, everybody.
01:55:43Bye for now.
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