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00:00Hi, I'm Ning Ke. Today we're in Sheffield.
00:02We're going to go around the town to ask the younger generation
00:06what they think and feel about climate change.
00:09Climate change evokes varied emotions.
00:12Some feel anxious and helpless,
00:15while others believe the risks are exaggerated.
00:18When you think of climate change,
00:20what's the first word that comes to your mind?
00:24Um, first word?
00:27Climate change.
00:28Uh, maybe warming.
00:30Global warming.
00:31Capitalism.
00:32The colour.
00:33Urgent.
00:34Carbon dioxide.
00:35Probably sustainability.
00:37High temperature.
00:38Temperature.
00:39Probably temperature.
00:40It's interesting to know what people learn about climate change and the environment.
00:45With that in mind, our next question is,
00:48where do you get your information about climate change or the environment?
00:53Um, I would say like a lot of news outlets maybe.
00:56You know, stuff that we see on television.
00:59Um, some sort of very niche magazines.
01:04Or even things that you see on Instagram, you know, what people post.
01:07Because it's gotten quite popular to post about these things.
01:11The more aware we are, the better.
01:13From the news.
01:14Maybe BBC.
01:16Sky.
01:17Yeah, basically from the news.
01:19Or from the weather app.
01:20Uh, usually when I watch the news or social media, like Instagram.
01:25Probably Reddit.
01:26In Weibo.
01:27Uh, mainly the news.
01:29I imagine, yeah, maybe online.
01:31Uh, in some documentary or in some movies, I think.
01:35Probably some news channels, but not the mainstream ones.
01:38Because they will tend to, you know, switch things a little bit.
01:43But mostly like those indie news channels.
01:47And internet posts.
01:48And environmental reports.
01:51I think there are two ways, mainly.
01:53One is like general news.
01:56Like BBC or like Japanese newspapers.
01:59Or it's like, there's many variety of online newspapers.
02:04And one, another thing is like.
02:07I have a friend who is environmental activist.
02:13So she like posted many like environmental newspaper on Instagram.
02:19So I can see her post and know about environment or like climate change issue.
02:25Knowing where people gather information help us understand the foundation of their views.
02:31But what about the extent of these views?
02:34Do you think concerns about the climate are ever over or under exaggerated?
02:39I think maybe it's under exaggerated.
02:43Because actually, I think the fact the climate change situation is very worse.
02:51But actually, I think it don't have a lot of people to do something to protect or
03:00have some action to do something about the climate change.
03:04I think definitely under exaggerated.
03:05Because I guess we do have many issues that's, you know,
03:10that's going on right now around the world.
03:12But also, I don't think we'll be able to get into them if we're not here to witness them.
03:17And I think climate change is quite deathly, you know.
03:21So I think it's very under exaggerated.
03:24Most of the times we spend our days just kind of worried about deadlines and jobs and life.
03:30But like that's, it's quite important to be able to be alive to be able to worry about these stuff.
03:34So I think it's under exaggerated.
03:36I think we need to be worried about it way more so that we can actually take action.
03:39I think they're properly exaggerated.
03:42They're not over or under.
03:43But sometimes people do kind of like underestimate them.
03:47Like, oh, it's not that big of a deal.
03:48It's fine.
03:50But yeah, I think it's exaggerated as much as it should be.
03:55I think it's over-exaggerated because I don't think it...
04:01I don't think the amount of activity that we do that might impact is...
04:06I don't think it reflects what, you know, is scientifically...
04:11Like, what is the data right about right out there?
04:15I don't think it's right.
04:16I think they're a bit exaggerated.
04:17But it can depend on the country, I think.
04:19But I think there's more things to worry about, in my personal opinion.
04:23But I understand why people are concerned about it.
04:25I feel like sometimes it's over, like overexpressed.
04:32But mostly, it's really like an urgent issue that we have to think about.
04:40So I generally don't think it's overreacted.
04:43It's like, it's really important information, I think.
04:47I mean, it depends who you are.
04:50I mean, if you're asking a Republican senator from, you know,
04:54Milano, Arkansas, it's probably over-exaggerated.
04:59But I think the science says that it's, you know,
05:02I don't think we're putting enough into this.
05:06It seems to be, seems to me at least,
05:08certainly one of the most pressing problems of our age, yeah.
05:12I think it depends.
05:14Like, some people try and make it seem like it's extreme.
05:18Like, oh, you should always do this.
05:20Never drive a car.
05:21Never take the bus.
05:22You should always ride a bicycle or walk.
05:25But at the same time, it's like kind of an important thing.
05:28So it depends who you ask.
05:32Actually, we have talked about this.
05:33Yeah, we've discussed that, yeah.
05:35But I think, like, both of us think it's like based on the context,
05:40like where you live, because I think this topic is not a very, like,
05:46it's like the rate of people like discuss this kind of topic
05:51is different in different countries.
05:53Yeah.
05:54And I think it depends on the fact.
05:57Yeah.
05:57Actually, I don't know what actually the fact is,
06:00because I always saw it on social media and something.
06:05And I don't know the reality about the climate change.
06:09Understanding perceptions of climate concerns is important.
06:13But beyond perceptions, actions matter too.
06:16Is there anything you do in your day-to-day life to help the environment?
06:20Not myself, no.
06:21Because I don't think it's really down to the individual.
06:24It's not really their responsibility.
06:26It's more, in my opinion, the government and corporations
06:29that should be held responsible for climate change or global warming.
06:33Yes.
06:35One thing I'm doing is never buying bottles outside.
06:40I mostly bring my bottle to drink water or, like, drinks.
06:48And also, I try not to buy ready-made meal because they have so much plastics.
06:54And I believe, like, making, like, cooking by myself
06:58is much, like, healthier for environment.
07:01So I'm trying to make food by myself.
07:04Yeah.
07:06Maybe recycling, for example.
07:08You have to recycle.
07:10And also, like, I will collect the plastic bag.
07:14Yeah.
07:15When I, like, shopping from the supermarket and I bought a bag,
07:19then I will, like, collect it and use it to, like, throw my beans or something like that.
07:24Maybe recycling at home.
07:26We always use the cardboard or plastic to recycle.
07:31So, yeah.
07:33And also saving water because my parents are always,
07:38you should only shower for 10 minutes.
07:40Never use any more water than that.
07:42And they always make me use the tap on a slow setting instead of really fast
07:47just so they can save it.
07:48Also because it's expensive.
07:51When I go into somewhere or have to do some work,
07:54I'm using the public transport or some by working instead of the driving.
08:02Then I walk most of the time, but that's because I can't drive.
08:06But I have this tendency to, like, switch off the lights whenever I go.
08:10Like, even in the kitchen.
08:11I share the kitchen with eight different people
08:12and I don't like when they keep lights on during the day.
08:16And I try to use less water and stuff like that.
08:20I mean, I think more and more I'm trying to buy secondhand.
08:24But whether that has an impact on the environment,
08:28I think it's probably quite negligible.
08:30You know, you can buy every little adds up.
08:33I recycle.
08:34I walk to uni.
08:37I always take buses.
08:38I don't own a car.
08:40And I'm a vegetarian.
08:42I guess that helps.
08:44I always tend to go vintage shopping rather than buying fast fashion
08:50because that's just not really helpful.
08:53That's all I could do.
08:54I wish I could say, like, I shoplift sometimes.
08:56You know, if that helps.
08:57I don't know.
08:58I'm joking.
08:58But yeah, I guess.
09:00Sure.
09:00Daily habits are important,
09:02but some people take their commitment a step further.
09:05Have you ever taken any more direct action for an environmental cause,
09:10like protesting or volunteering?
09:13Yeah.
09:13No, personally, no.
09:14Not really, no.
09:16Why not?
09:19Can't really be bothered.
09:20Oh, no, because in my school,
09:23there doesn't have, like, these activities,
09:29like volunteering or something else.
09:32If I have the chance to do that, I can do that.
09:37Well, I mean, the only thing I try to do, literally, is recycling.
09:42That's pretty much it.
09:44I don't do anything else.
09:45So tell me, right now,
09:47you don't want to, like, get involved with protesting or volunteering?
09:52In terms of only protesting,
09:54I like the idea of reusing things that we buy from stores, for example.
10:01I mean, I don't...
10:02Just in order to reduce the weight that goes into wherever the weights are.
10:08For all the reasons that there is nothing much that I'm doing,
10:12or I would like to do,
10:13because, you know, it just costs more.
10:15It just means I'm going to have to spend more money.
10:18Volunteering, yes.
10:19I did once when I was in school,
10:20but I haven't joined any yet.
10:24So why you want to, like, get into this kind of direct action?
10:29Mostly because I didn't find anything.
10:32And whenever I found something, like,
10:34oh, there's a protest going on,
10:35it was already too late for me to join,
10:37because I see them as, like, going on,
10:39so I can't just, like, go, like, hey, I'm also here.
10:42I'm not sure that I can count it on as a, like, activity,
10:48but one thing I did was, like, collecting garbage.
10:52And it's, like, one-tier work.
10:54I joined it with my family and friends,
10:59when I was a kid.
11:00And another thing I've done is, was holding events,
11:06which is, like, about climate change,
11:10and then try to advocate to other people,
11:13and think about, like, what is a climate change, or something.
11:15Yeah.
11:16Why you want to do that?
11:20Because I'm also really concerned about the climate change, generally.
11:25So, and also, I think the place I've grown up
11:30is a really special place, which is Hiroshima.
11:33And then people in Hiroshima tend to, like,
11:37do something for society, or the world,
11:41and doing some social activities.
11:43So it's so much easier for me to do something.
11:47So I, yeah, it's, like, kind of natural things for me to do,
11:52something for, like, social issues, such as climate change.
11:57Actually, no.
11:58No.
11:59Do the volunteer about the climate change.
12:01Yeah.
12:03Well, I have, like, attend a volunteer activity
12:06when I was a freshman in university.
12:09But it's, I think it's more, like, for fun, I think.
12:14Because we, like, travel to Maldives,
12:16and to, like, collect the rubbish from the seaside.
12:20Yeah, that kind of thing.
12:21But I don't know if that's really work, actually.
12:26Yeah.
12:27Yes, when I lived in Germany, there were a lot of protests for,
12:31you know, pushing for a lot of, I guess, initiatives against climate change.
12:35And, you know, what we could do, what the governments can do.
12:38And I did go to a lot of demonstrations at the time.
12:41This was pre-COVID.
12:43But yeah, I did try to go to a lot of them.
12:46But again, I think it really, knowing that there are a lot of companies,
12:49there are a lot of dozens of people who are billionaires,
12:52just kind of making it worse.
12:54Even just recycling just seems like such a small thing.
12:57But I guess I do what I can.
12:59Yeah, you know, I did go to one of those stuff.
13:02But yeah.
13:04Direct actions are impactful.
13:06But how do these efforts shape our future?
13:09How do you feel when you think about what the planet
13:11and environment will be like in the future?
13:14It's definitely going to change.
13:16I think because of global warming,
13:17there are going to be maybe, it might affect population,
13:21might affect industry, sort of manual, sort of labor as well.
13:26That sort of thing.
13:27So it might affect industry and the economy, essentially.
13:30So that's sort of my concern about it.
13:32Well, it's going to be way worse because politics aren't really great yet.
13:36And people are just investing on fracking and fossil fuel consumption.
13:40And it's not going down at all in most first world countries.
13:45So yeah, I don't really feel optimistic about it.
13:47Concerned probably is, yeah, the climate is changing.
13:52And, you know, once it's changed, we can't really change it back, can we?
13:59I think we've got to be careful, yeah.
14:02I think in the future it will be getting better
14:06with the government or people doing some useful ways to solve the problem.
14:13I think it'll be OK.
14:15I'm pretty optimistic.
14:16So I think it's not going to be as bad as some people may tell it to be.
14:23Sometimes I'm really concerned when, especially when I saw news that,
14:29and also like I felt the summer in Japan, the temperature is increasing every year.
14:39So I felt like, oh, I'm kind of like worried about what will be like in the future
14:46if the temperature is going up continuously.
14:49Yeah, so I'm a bit concerned about that.
14:52God, I guess I feel a bit short-sighted in that because I don't really know.
14:57I mean, I think we're way past the point where we can reverse climate change.
15:05I think we're way past it.
15:06So I guess we're pretty doomed, you know, what do you look at?
15:10I think we're not doing good.
15:11And, you know, how long can we just hold out?
15:14Yeah, it's quite sad to think about.
15:16So I try not to think about it to, you know, to be able to mentally be well,
15:21but I think it's going to be quite bad.
15:23So, you know, with animals, I think they're going to be the first ones affected
15:26and then essentially humans, and that's not going to be good for us.
15:31I think it'll be hotter than it is now.
15:37But I don't know, it's too far away to think about, to be honest.
15:40I don't know.
15:41I don't know, because I think it's really hard to say because, you know,
15:47now the whole environment is really complicated because, you know,
15:54I think most of the countries, they do not have the time and the power
15:59to focus on the environment, the climate things.
16:04And they're like, maybe kind of like much more important issue for them.
16:08They have to focus on.
16:10So I really don't know, because this kind of situation.
16:15So maybe it won't be better.
16:20Yeah.
16:20But I hope it could be like people could live in a kind of city forest
16:26or something like that.
16:27That would be nice, but really hard to say.
16:31Yeah, I don't think it will be better than now because of the population,
16:36because of the industry, the development and something.
16:40I think it's hard to balance the climate, the environment,
16:44and the development of human beings.
16:48And I just discussed with Nico,
16:53I think sometimes it's kind of a propaganda of the climate change
17:00to make people pay more money and attention on these things.
17:06But now in the world, in some area,
17:09little people just suffering, they are struggling with their lives.
17:14They are starving or something.
17:15Yeah, they don't have more attention to pay on the climate.
17:23They have to protect themselves.
17:26It's been enlightening to hear how different people view and address climate change.
17:31Let's keep the conversation going and continue working towards a better future.
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