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On this episode of Screen Babble Matt and Kelly talk the biggest show in town - Celebrity Traitors - even nailing their colours to the mast on who might steal the prize.
They also share their top tips for scary films extended back through the decades as well as the moment that scared them the most ever!
Finally, they gallop through some of the quality TV that's available at the moment so you don't miss out on any of the good stuff.
They also share their top tips for scary films extended back through the decades as well as the moment that scared them the most ever!
Finally, they gallop through some of the quality TV that's available at the moment so you don't miss out on any of the good stuff.
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00:00Hello and welcome to Screen Babble. It's October. We just can't help ourselves on Screen Babble.
00:18It's going to take a macarab turn this episode.
00:20Screen Babble is a monthly podcast where we'll take you through the best in TV and film.
00:31I'm your host, Kelly Crichton, sort of the undead, and I'm joined by TV critic Matt Moen-Hickson.
00:37Hello, Matt. Benji is currently taking some time off. We miss you, Benji. Come back soon.
00:42Matt is here to tell us what's what and what's not as the night's drawing and the television becomes our best friend once again.
00:50Today we're looking at the essential viewing of Autumn Celebrity Traitors, which honestly you cannot put on the radio, you cannot put on the telly, you cannot turn for the Celebrity Traitors.
01:03It started last night as we record this. We're both knackered because we stayed up late to watch it and we are very excited. The lineup is show's kiss.
01:12Then, it seems it's a spooky season, we're talking the scariest things we've ever watched. And finally, because we know, you need to know, we'll tell you about the must-see TV coming out in the next few weeks.
01:26Yeah, Matt, I feel like as a TV writer, it must be absolutely manic at the moment. Is that right?
01:31Yeah, I am absolutely cream-crackered, as they say. I think it's a cocky slang. I don't know. It's something my friends always said.
01:40Yes, yes.
01:42In the summer, like back in like, I think August or July, I was mourning about how light the TV schedule was. I'm never going to do that ever again.
01:50No.
01:51It's a shame you can't bank stuff from Autumn, you know, when people are watching it, unfortunately. But yeah, I get you.
01:59And tell us, you've got a new office today.
02:02Oh, yeah, I am coming to you live from the kitchen. It's because we've been cooking up a great episode for you all.
02:07For listeners, that is Kitchen. It's a new nightclub named after the original famous nightclub.
02:13Not actually Matt's Kitchen, which is a nice kind of buttermilk-coloured cupboards in the background there, if you're watching it on telly.
02:19But anyway, yes, we are talking celebrity traitors.
02:23It started last night. I was just looking up there about when it's on. So it's two nights a week for about four or five weeks. Is that right?
02:31I thought it was more, but thankfully, it's not going to take over our lives completely, just a little bit.
02:37Yeah, I think it's expected to have like nine episodes. I remember seeing very widely. Some people thought it was going to be three weeks, but I guess it'll be four weeks.
02:46Yeah, yeah. I think maybe the final will be on Halloween, which is...
02:51Ah, that makes sense.
02:52...isn't be spooky. Or the week after, depending if they decide to just...
02:57So definitely spoiler alerts, if people end up listening to this today. There's going to be another episode tonight.
03:03But I think what we want to kind of dwell on most is kind of the characters and, you know, the dynamic.
03:08So I thought it was an interesting dynamic last night. What were your first impressions of the lineup?
03:13I mean, it's a brilliant lineup. Whoever did the booking for this, they landed it.
03:18But I think obviously it's going to have benefited hugely from being such a popular TV series.
03:23And when you watch it, you play along. So a lot of people would love to play the game.
03:28And I think that doesn't, you know, obviously it extends to celebrities as well.
03:33And I...
03:34Yeah, but one thing I definitely noticed was
03:38because it's for charity, there's less actual pressure.
03:43I mean, if you were going in there just as a, you know, Joe public or whatever,
03:49then whatever the hundred thousand is a lot of money, you know, it's even more, I think, isn't it?
03:53And the, for the regular Joes, maybe, I don't know.
03:57I thought it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:59And then, so there's all that pressure of winning that money.
04:02And also it can be life-changing in terms of your career and stuff.
04:05Whereas for the celebrities, it's just a bit of a laugh and they're trying to get money for their charities.
04:11So I noticed straight away that, you know, at the start, they talk a lot about,
04:16do you want to be a traitor or a faithful?
04:19Way more of them were putting themselves forward as traitors than they do in the normal series.
04:23People are usually kind of afraid to be traitors.
04:25And I think it's because it's quite a precarious position to be in.
04:29You're likely to survive a lot longer as a faithful than a traitor.
04:32But if you could play the game really well, you can actually win as a traitor easier than a faithful, if you know what I mean.
04:40So, yeah.
04:41What was your first impressions of the whole thing, in a way?
04:43Yeah, I thought it was a really, really good first episode.
04:46Like, I did enjoy them digging through their own graves.
04:50And they know what they're doing, don't they?
04:52Some of them got right into it.
04:54And you could just tell some of them were just being kind of divas and being like, oh, God, do we have to do this?
04:58And I enjoyed how people were like, oh, are they doing a game?
05:02It's like, oh, wait, no, we haven't even been inside the castle yet.
05:04No one knows who's a traitor yet.
05:06It's just like, yeah, they're just being normal people.
05:08Yeah, yeah.
05:09I loved Charlotte Church and her beautiful white dress, like, totally just stuck in and went straight into it.
05:15So, yeah, they had to dig.
05:17If anyone hasn't seen it, they had to dig graves.
05:19Like, basically, the graves were all kind of fresh earth and they had to use their hands.
05:24And if they were lucky to have some sort of implement to dig until they found a shield, which was going to protect them from being murdered on the first night.
05:32So, yeah, the rugby guy, Joe, I thought he was funny.
05:38And he was, he actually found two shields in the space of about five minutes.
05:43So, I think you can tell he's going to be important in the challenges.
05:47Yeah, I thought he looked a bit like a fisherman as well.
05:50I enjoyed that look.
05:51He looked very light.
05:52He'd just come off, come off the bar.
05:54He definitely had that vibe about him, didn't he?
05:56And his, like, the dungies, he's such a big guy and he's got a pair of dungies on.
06:01It definitely made him look kind of nice and sweet and kind of approachable, you know, because he's a big early rugby player.
06:08But, yeah, I mean, yeah, I think I wasn't surprised with one or two of the picks for the traitors.
06:17And, like, Stephen, I was like, yeah.
06:19Oh, yeah, yeah.
06:20And Jonathan Ronson as well.
06:21Sorry, not Stephen.
06:22Jonathan, Jonathan.
06:23Jonathan, yeah.
06:25Because it's just his character, isn't it?
06:28Like, you just know he's so into it and he's so into the game playing thing that he was going to be picked.
06:33I think Kat, she was very clear that she was.
06:37Yeah, I think she could go fair.
06:39The only thing that's against her is it's so early she's become a traitor.
06:44I think she would have been benefited if it was later.
06:47And it depends on how quickly they kill each other.
06:50And Alan, I think Kat, you can see she's got daggers for Alan already.
06:56Yeah, I mean, I love Alan, but he isn't making it to the end, is he?
07:00It's funny, though.
07:01I think he might prove us wrong, you know, because he's a performer, you know what I mean?
07:06He's like, it's his bit.
07:09It's his kind of nervous and sweating and blushing and giggling.
07:14And because a couple of times last night when he was just chatting with people, I thought, if I was sitting beside him, I think he was guilty as hell.
07:21You know?
07:22Yeah.
07:22It's just something he's got that puts people think, oh, he's just silly Alan.
07:27Exactly.
07:27So they let their guard down.
07:29Yeah, you're right.
07:29So anyway, he's in the middle of this challenge at the moment.
07:33We don't know if he's going to, but they always manage to do those.
07:36Yeah.
07:37Do those tasks.
07:37They don't make it too impossible for them.
07:39There's enough for there to be drama, but not enough for it to be like something to fail at.
07:44Yeah.
07:45Yeah.
07:45But I wouldn't trust Kat or Jonathan if I was Alan.
07:49No, no.
07:50It'd be interesting to see how ruthless they are, like you said, because it's for charity.
07:54Like, will they be as ruthless as in like a civilian version where you're trying to win money and you don't want to get infected?
08:01And they're like, oh, I've got to throw some fresh blood to the faithful.
08:04It's like, will they have those game plans or will it be a bit different this time?
08:09Because, yeah.
08:09I imagine the producers will put them in those positions, you know, frequently to challenge them because that's what people want, isn't it?
08:22And if they're doing murder and plain sight in the first episode, like they're obviously going to up the ante this time around, I guess, to like make them, make them, I guess, all ruthless probably.
08:34Yeah, it's interesting.
08:36Nick Muhammad, the actor, was a comedian and actor.
08:39He, he was up to stuff already last night.
08:43He kind of helped Celia Emery with her digging.
08:46He was saying, oh, I'd really, oh, I'm a faithful, I'm a faithful, before they ever got chosen.
08:50And then when he was sitting with Claudia, he was like, oh, no, I want to be a traitor.
08:54I think maybe I'm identifying with him as his character and Ted Lasso a bit as well, crawling or whatever.
09:01And so I'm like, he's up to no good, that fella.
09:05So it's hard to know.
09:07And there's so many of them.
09:09It's like, oh, God, you know, there's a lot going on here.
09:15Poor Claire Balding, like she just put herself right in the spotlight, didn't she?
09:20Yes, she made a mistake.
09:22Is this an elaborate plan?
09:23It's like, no, it's just, just a mistake.
09:27They do read into things a bit too much.
09:29So, so she, she just made an, she just made a mistake, but everybody was like, oh, why did she do that?
09:35Is she a traitor?
09:36You know?
09:36But I think out of, out of the group, I feel like, and I think this happens in the main series as well.
09:45Older people don't do as well.
09:49And academic or people who are seen as academic or smart don't tend to do well either because people think they're going to outsmart me.
09:56So they try to get rid of them fairly quickly.
09:58So I'd say we could see the likes of Stephen Fry and David Olusugo and Claire Balding going very quickly.
10:07Tom Daly, Celia Emery.
10:09I think they're in with that little gang a little bit as well.
10:12And I'd say we could see them getting knocked off and Kate Garraway because she's sort of skilled journalist, you know.
10:19Those guys, I could see us going quick, going quickly.
10:22Whereas I could see the comedians staying quite a while.
10:25And is it Lucy Beaumont, she said, oh, people just think I'm silly and, you know, a manly and all that.
10:32And I could see her doing well as well.
10:34Being that sort of under the radar until, oh, well, yeah, she's one.
10:39And I wasn't familiar with Ruth Cod.
10:41She was quite funny.
10:43And Home of Fate was quite funny as well last night.
10:45So, I mean, honestly, there is a lot going on.
10:50What do you think about, in terms of, do you think there'll be a lot of changes within the traitors?
10:57Do you think they'll be recruiting fairly quickly?
10:59Or do you think it'll be, let's kill, kill, kill and see what happens?
11:03I don't know.
11:04I think probably they'll be, like, recruiting because there'll be people that the producers want to meet traitors.
11:10They'll be, like, they'll be, like, yeah, people they want to see have a go, you know, twirl in their moustache.
11:18They all seemed very bloodthirsty last night, though.
11:21They were all, like, let's kill somebody.
11:23Can't wait to kill somebody.
11:24You know, it was, like, all right, okay, calm down.
11:27It's just what goes on in there.
11:30Yeah.
11:31I also wonder if it was real alcohol they were getting.
11:35It looked like real alcohol.
11:36And they were very keen to get it into them, which is always a sure sign.
11:39Yeah, get them a bit more.
11:42Whereas I don't think they get real, do they get real alcohol in the main series?
11:45I'm not sure.
11:46But maybe people are more guarded on the main series because there's money at stake, isn't there again?
11:52100%.
11:52Okay.
11:54At this insanely early stage, Matt, after one episode of Seven Traitors, who is your horse?
12:01Who's going to win?
12:02I think if Kat Burns doesn't, like, fall, like, doesn't get maybe too cocky or doesn't, like, you know, get sort of caught up in a web, she could go far.
12:16But I think someone like Ruth could be, like, one that, like, sort of goes into the radar, gets recruited.
12:22People hear the Irish accent and just sort of, oh, it's just, yeah, like.
12:27They trust us.
12:29They trust us.
12:29Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:30And, yeah, I think those two, I mean, I'd love Alan to win, but I just, I feel like he's so flamboyant.
12:37Yeah, and sort of fumbling, fumbling.
12:41Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:42I think Lucy Beaumont could go fair, but I think Tom Daly might be in with a shot as well if he, if he spreads himself around the group and doesn't align himself with the intellectuals too much, I would say.
12:53But it's all to play for, and we've got the next three to four weeks of Celebrity Trailer is very excited.
13:00It's going to be great.
13:02We also have Great British Bake Off and Strictly at the moment, so I am literally dying with the amount of reality TV.
13:12I was never much of a Strictly person, but my kids started watching it and now it's like we have to watch the whole thing every week.
13:19So, yeah, so that's, yeah, taken over my life.
13:21But anyway, it'll return at some point.
13:24And The Jungle will be starting in a few weeks, I take it as well.
13:26Oh, yeah.
13:27They'll probably know it.
13:28It'll be awesome.
13:30Okay, moving on.
13:32We are going to talk about spooky TV and films.
13:36Yeah.
13:37It's the time of year.
13:39I know lots of people go in for this sort of all year round.
13:42I'm not a massive horror fan at the best of times, although I do think the older I get, I get better with it.
13:48I'm a bit more of a realist and I'm like, yeah, that's not real or that's not happening.
13:51Like the same way I used to be able to watch kind of gory medical things, whereas now I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
13:57You know, maybe my little, I don't know, my, I don't know what I'm trying to say.
14:08I've got a thicker skin now than I used to.
14:12I'm the complete opposite of all this horror stuff.
14:15Like, yeah, yeah, I absolutely love, I love being scared.
14:17It's like, I love comedies and I love horror.
14:19I like things that make me react, I guess.
14:22I think I've naively like gone to the cinema to watch ours over the years and been like, it was a total waste of money because I was like, you know, through my fingers or whatever.
14:34But right, go on.
14:35We're going to talk about a few different options we've each chosen just as a sort of, you know, in case you're having a think about something you want to watch over the next month or so in spooky season.
14:45Tell me, what's your first pick, Matt?
14:47Well, this one's a bit of a retro one and maybe I misunderstood the same, but I'm going to go with Thomas the Tank Engine.
14:55So stick with me, guys.
14:57It's the one who's crazy as it sounds.
14:59But I don't know if anyone remembers the old, like, 90s version.
15:03Like, I know it's like CGI now, but back when it was, I don't know what it was, like, little, like, you know, not claymation, but like.
15:10Yeah, it was kind of claymation, kind of.
15:12Yeah.
15:13There was an episode.
15:15Stop motion, I suppose, is it?
15:16Stop motion.
15:17Yeah, stop motion, not claymation.
15:18Yeah, there we go.
15:20There was an episode with a ghost train when it was like a spooky ghost train and it had, like, tentacle-y things.
15:26Not tentacles, like ribbons coming off it.
15:29He came around at night and they're all terrified of this ghost train and I'm still about three or four.
15:35It scared me so much that, like, I slept with the sheets pulled up over my head for about a year.
15:41With your Thomas the Tank Engine duvet cover over your head.
15:44Yeah, yeah, exactly.
15:44Yeah, I just had to.
15:45I didn't want him to go straight to get me.
15:48It's funny, isn't it, how scary things from your childhood just stick with you, like the things that really scared you.
15:54I do remember in general, like, you know, Scooby-Doo used to have always scary things on it, didn't it?
15:59But nothing terrifying because it was an actual cartoon, so you couldn't get that scared.
16:04But I remember there was a thing called Round the Bend, which was just a little bit macabre as well, you know, and any of those sort of on the cusp sort of things that you couldn't explain would just sort of stick with you.
16:18And I think that's why, like, people, kids don't like clowns and things in costume because you can't see their face, you know, you can't tell what the truth is or whatever, you know.
16:29So, yeah, you're not a fan of clowns either.
16:33No, no, no, no, no, no.
16:34Never, never, never, never.
16:37Oh, God.
16:37I watched it as well, so, no.
16:40Have you watched it?
16:41Have you watched it?
16:41Yeah.
16:42Okay, right, good, good.
16:45My first pick, oh, my God, this is such a vivid memory from my teenage years.
16:50So when we would have had Sky TV first, we're talking early 90s here, people.
16:56Yeah.
16:56There was this film that they used to show late at night, and the first time we saw it, you know, I don't think we saw it from the start.
17:04Like, we started watching it maybe 20 minutes into the film or something.
17:08And essentially what it was was, like, home footage of, you know, crappy little camcorders back then or whatever, shaky, not the best quality, clearly handheld, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah.
17:21And essentially it's the story of a family who gather for a birthday party, and there's some strange goings-ons, lights outside the window, et cetera, et cetera.
17:29The clocks stop, people go to investigate, they don't come back, then somebody does see something in the woods, alien-like.
17:39I don't want to give too much of it away, but it was terrifying.
17:43And it was, because it was the first of the sort of found footage films, you know, everybody came to know, like, the Blair Witch, like, 10 years later.
17:52But this definitely gave the impression, like, that this was a real thing, like, and nobody's seen or heard from these families since, because you kind of don't know what happens at the end, sort of at the end.
18:03And we were, I mean, when I say scared, we were, we thought it was real, you know, we were petrified.
18:11Now, probably a few weeks later, we saw the start of it, which was like an American news report saying, footage has been found.
18:19And then we were a bit like, oh, right, okay, maybe this is a film, maybe this is, you know.
18:24Now, I don't think anything has ever tapped that for me.
18:28And it was funny because I was looking up, I was looking up a little bit about it yesterday.
18:33And one, it was filmed in 1989.
18:35And two, it was set in 1983, which I was like, I was only a baby, you know what I mean?
18:42But still, I was like, none of that made sense to me in terms of a timeline.
18:46And then this idea that it was that first of the found footage stuff made a lot of sense to me as well.
18:53But what I would say is my, it's like anything you go back to from your childhood or a lot of things you go back to from your childhood.
18:58But it wasn't, like the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb were terrible.
19:03Whereas for whatever 10-year-old me, they were, it was, oh, for 12-year-old me, it was so scary.
19:10Like, you know, and I still see the value in it now.
19:12But would I go back and watch it?
19:14Probably not, because I like to hold those memories rather than destroy them, you know.
19:18So, yeah.
19:19I presume that Ant and Dec did like a weird movie version of in like the 2000s, is it?
19:25Like they did like a, I remember, maybe I'm, I don't know if I'm remembering this wrong,
19:28but I'm sure Ant and Dec did like some like parody alien abduction movie.
19:33Maybe, maybe.
19:34Yeah.
19:35There isn't really any abduction in this film per se, because it is literally someone filming a birthday party, you know.
19:41But it goes on and on and on.
19:42And then they turn on the camera because, you know, the strange goings-ons.
19:46And then like they just sit the camera on the side.
19:47So all the action, not all the action is in front of the camera.
19:51Do you know what I mean?
19:51And sometimes you see a thing go by the window and sometimes you just hear something.
19:55And, oh, geez, still makes me, my skin prickle.
20:00Yeah.
20:00Yeah.
20:00Definitely.
20:01Definitely.
20:01So, yeah, there you go.
20:02That was my first name.
20:03It's called the MacPherson Tape, or I think it's got another name, which is UFO Abduction.
20:09But it's the MacPherson Tape, if anyone's interested.
20:12Right.
20:12What's up next, Mac?
20:14Speaking of making your skin tingle, I'm going to go with Lake Mongo,
20:19which is an Australian sort of like fake documentary, like kind of like found footage,
20:26but not like, it's as if they're filming a documentary.
20:29Okay.
20:29One of those four documentaries.
20:31Yeah.
20:31About like this house and if it's haunted and it seems as if it isn't.
20:37And then there's this like absolutely terrifying section at the titular Lake Mongo,
20:46which is just honestly, like I didn't sleep after I watched it this time.
20:51Like it was like so, it's so sad and scary and it's, you know, about families and, you
20:59know, relationships and this, you know, a daughter has died and, you know, is she still
21:05around and it's, oh.
21:08I think, I think that's what the best, the best horrors are made of is the, they need to
21:14get the emotional as well as the supernatural or the gore or whatever.
21:19They need to sort of balance it out.
21:21I think that's why A Quiet Place and them do very well because it's the sheer horror
21:27of what they're experiencing.
21:29And like, you know, can you not make a noise?
21:33Like that's, you think, oh, I can, I can not make a noise.
21:35Then you're, I'll actually just make 10 noise.
21:38And not if you stand on a nail and it goes through your foot and not if you're giving
21:41birth, you know?
21:42So, I mean, it sounds ridiculous now, but you know what I mean?
21:45Um, but so with that one, with Late Mungo, is it, um, I, I find you can kind of separate
21:52horrors into like supernatural slash monsters, um, slash the thing we can't see.
22:00They're the kind of three things or maybe, and then the fourth one is gory things, you
22:04know?
22:04Um.
22:06Definitely the supernatural, but it's, it's one of these ones where you're like trying
22:11to work out whether it's, is supernatural or if it's, cause it's like interesting stuff
22:17like things are faked, but then it, you know, things aren't faked as well.
22:22And then the fake thing reveals something that's actually going on.
22:26Yeah, yeah.
22:27It's a twisty and turny.
22:28It's on Prime Video, I think.
22:30Oh, that's, you know what?
22:31It's one of those, one of those ones.
22:33If, if I do one scary movie this, this Halloween season, I will, I will do Late Mungo.
22:39Oh, honestly, it is fantastic.
22:41Okay.
22:42I'll report back.
22:43It's, it's, it's a bit of a cult classic.
22:44I think, um, Mike Flanagan, who does the, all those Netflix horror TV series, it's his
22:50like favorite movie or something as well.
22:52Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool.
22:53Okay.
22:53Okay.
22:53Great.
22:54Um, I mean, it's great as a genre.
22:56It just keeps giving, doesn't it?
22:57Um.
22:58Oh yeah.
22:58Yeah.
22:59Power movies.
23:00Okay, cool.
23:00My last pick is a classic.
23:02There's probably not an awful lot to say about it, but, um, Psycho, formative in my
23:08teenage years, I must've watched it 150 times and that's saying a lot because I've, there's
23:14not many films I've watched more than once, to be honest, but I think it was just, you
23:18know, it's classic Hitchcock doing Hitchcock when nobody else does it like, you know, it
23:23does that as well.
23:25Um, and just, I suppose the first time you watch it, that, that reveal is just the best
23:31thing ever.
23:32And the shower scene obviously is another complete classic.
23:35I mean, looking back obviously from nowadays when we've got all the tech and all the CGI
23:40and all the, you know, abilities to do things really realistically, you know, you can look
23:45at it and be like, oh God, that's so fake.
23:47But actually it's the tension, the atmosphere, it's the sound effects, it's the music, it's
23:54the macabre nature of the thing.
23:56It's just done so well.
23:59So if there's anybody left out there in the world that, um, hasn't seen Psycho, you should
24:07watch it.
24:08I'm going to tell you a really quick story about Hitchcock.
24:10My neighbour growing up, she remembered sitting, watching, um, The Crows, isn't that the name
24:18of another one?
24:19The Crows.
24:19The Crows.
24:19The Birds.
24:20And she was in on her own one night and she used to live on the high street of her town
24:26and she was watching the birds.
24:28And at one moment where they were doing some massive attack, somebody fell in the window
24:32of her living room.
24:34Can you imagine?
24:36Oh no.
24:38Oh God, that would be terrible.
24:39You would die of a heart attack there and you would just be like, oh my God.
24:45Oh my God.
24:46Talk about like taking it to 4D.
24:48Oh, anyway, I always remember that.
24:51She said she was absolutely terrified.
24:54Um, okay.
24:55And what's your last pick then, Matt?
24:57Tell me.
24:58I'm going to go with something a bit more recent this time.
25:00I'm going with Midnight Mass, which was the miniseries on Netflix.
25:04Okay.
25:052022.
25:07Okay.
25:07It's this island community off the coast of New England.
25:11So, you know, very Stephen King-y.
25:13Yeah.
25:14There's supernatural goings on.
25:16Um, most people will know what it is, but I don't want to spoil what kind of supernatural
25:20goings on it is, but it's, yeah, it's very Stephen King-y, that like small community.
25:26You get a sense of everyone in the community and then things go very wrong.
25:31And there's like religious-y aspects.
25:34It's like sort of new priest has arrived and, you know, strange, yeah, strange goings on
25:40in like a rural island, Massachusetts.
25:43Where they're cut off usually from the middle of the country.
25:45Yeah, yeah, cut off, exactly.
25:46And, yeah, it's, it's scared me so much that I like actually have like vivid nightmares
25:52after I'm watching one of the episodes this time.
25:54Oh, and you still go back to watch it again.
25:55I still go back to watch it every year.
25:57Wow.
25:57So, I don't have the nightmares anymore.
25:59Okay, so, to finish off our little segment here, what is the single most terrifying moment
26:08in a film for you?
26:11I had down a different one, but now I've thought of Lake Mungo, I'm going to go with the scene
26:16at Lake Mungo from Lake Mungo, that it gets into your bones.
26:21It's that like creepy, like it's not, you know, it's not a joke, it's nothing crazy happens,
26:27but it just so, it seems into you, like it terrifies you.
26:32I'm going to go with, well, I'm going to go to the, the body in the corner at the end
26:36of Blair Witch.
26:36I mean, oh my God, if that didn't affect you when you watched that the first time around,
26:40that was terrifying because it was just, again, the question mark, it's the question mark
26:46it leaves that you're like, what is going on here?
26:49And if you've not seen the Blair Witch people, absolutely check it out.
26:51It's a stunning ending.
26:53Um, and the other thing was the orphanage, which the original Spanish language version,
27:00El Orfanato, I went to see that in the cinema and oh my God, I don't think I've ever been
27:06right since.
27:08Um, I just, I think it's the mix of children.
27:11So it's this old orphanage gets reopened by someone who actually used to live there.
27:15Um, but obviously she's got her own demons and baggage and everything.
27:17And, um, yeah, she opens this home for disabled children and oh God, it's just terrifying.
27:25Um, the children thing is always so, um, upsetting and, um, extra scary.
27:32Evil children are scarier than evil people, evil grownups.
27:35So, um, okay.
27:36If you've not got enough stuff to scare the living, you know what, out of you by now, then
27:40I don't know what.
27:41So check those out.
27:43Right.
27:43We could not leave the podcast today without giving you some tips for what's coming up
27:48in the next few months.
27:51So, um, to start off, Matt, talk to me, give us one or two.
27:56Um, well, this fraud just started this last weekend when we were recording it on, um, Sunday
28:03nights and Monday nights on ITV.
28:05It's got Saran Jones and Jodie Whittaker teamed up for the first time ever.
28:10Oh yeah, I saw that.
28:12It's crazy.
28:12Like, I feel like this should have been.
28:14Totally.
28:15It's got very like Oceans 11s vibes.
28:18They're like, uh, sort of, you know, thieves who team up together for one last job in Sun
28:25Talks, Spain.
28:26It's, it's good fun.
28:27I've watched the first couple of episodes.
28:28It's really good fun.
28:29Um.
28:29Yeah.
28:30They're both quality, aren't they?
28:31Yeah.
28:31Sunday, Monday nights on ITV1 at 9pm.
28:35Can I just tell you really quickly, really quickly before we move on, uh, speaking of
28:39Saran Jones, I was on the Coronation Street set at the weekend.
28:45No way.
28:46In Manchester?
28:48Yes.
28:49Yes.
28:50I had an absolute ball.
28:52Um, if anybody likes Coronation Street, you should get yourself along.
28:56It was so good.
28:56I was afraid it would kind of kill the, kill the, uh, the, uh, yeah, just, it would just
29:02make it not real, you know?
29:04And, um, yeah, I just loved it.
29:06Every, you know, you don't see any of the internal sets, but we saw, um, a lot of the
29:10external sets.
29:11And actually there's a, the Rover's return.
29:13You can look in through the letterbox and you can actually see the bar, even though that's
29:17not the set they use.
29:17There is still a set in there.
29:19Um, but, oh, it was brilliant.
29:21And the tour was brilliant.
29:22And the, oh, we just, we had a great time.
29:24We've got great photographs and all that.
29:25So anyway, recommendation.
29:27Um, I'm a big Coronation Street fan.
29:29Anyway, sorry, go back to you.
29:30So what's next?
29:31So frauds first.
29:32Yep.
29:32What else?
29:33Yeah.
29:33Um, we've also got coming up, um, after Celebrity Traitors finishes, we're going to get the Irish
29:41Traitors coming in song.
29:43Yes.
29:43I don't think you've got a date for that yet, but my family, all my family watched it and
29:47they were like, oh my God, it was brilliant.
29:50Someone who had watched both the British one and the Irish one said that they got very personal
29:55in the Irish one, which sounds really, you know, bitchy and catty.
29:59Yeah.
30:00Interesting to hear.
30:02The British are more polite, obviously.
30:04Um, so yeah, yeah, yeah.
30:06So that'll be good.
30:07Okay.
30:07And yeah, so we've also got Riot Women, which I've seen they're doing the
30:11promo for at the moment.
30:13There's a lot of them around the place that's starting quite soon as well.
30:16I think, um, BBC Sally Wainwright from Happy Valley fame, et cetera.
30:22Um, and it's got an amazing cast of Lorraine Ashbourne, Joanna Scanlon, who's one of my
30:27favorites.
30:27She cannot do any wrong.
30:29Um, Amelia Bulmore, Thames and Greg and Rosalie Craig.
30:33And it's basically about women in their sort of midlife a little bit later, maybe, um,
30:39who are sort of fed up and decide to start a band.
30:43Um, so I think it looks great.
30:44And everything Sally Wainwright does as well, um, is great.
30:48So, uh, right.
30:49Anything else to mention, Matt?
30:51And what we should be waiting for?
30:52You would be remiss not to mention, given it's Halloween and it arrives just in time for
30:57Halloween.
30:57And we've, we've made reference to it already, this episode, the prequel TV series to the
31:03It Movies that is coming out on South Atlantic and Now TV on October the 27th is the first
31:10episode.
31:11It's called It, Welcome to Derry.
31:13Unfortunately, it's not a crossover with Derry Girls.
31:15That would have been amazing.
31:17But it's, um, takes place, I think, 20 years earlier than the first movie.
31:23So it's about a couple who have a Stephen King link.
31:27I will say that.
31:28It's a character from a different Stephen King book.
31:31Oh, I love that.
31:33A little bit of crossover.
31:35Oh, interesting.
31:37They, they moved to town to Derry in the 1960s and kids are starting to disappear.
31:43Is this Derry in Ireland or is it Derry in America?
31:46No, Derry in the Derry men.
31:47I was like, I was like, would they really pick Derry when there'd be an argument about Derry,
31:52London Derry, but no, okay, good.
31:54It's Derry in America.
31:55It's Derry, which I don't think is a real place.
31:57Yeah, yeah, yeah.
31:58Fair enough.
31:58Fair enough.
31:58Well, you know what?
31:59I live in Springfield, so, you know.
32:01Hey, there you go.
32:02Well, I don't.
32:03I live near Springfield.
32:04Okay.
32:04Right.
32:05So, uh, loads coming up.
32:07Oh my God.
32:07Always in autumn.
32:08It's absolutely brilliant.
32:09And I mean, if any of that doesn't float your boat, um, you've got the usual, like I was
32:12saying earlier, the reality TVs.
32:14Um, what is the best thing you are watching right now, Matt?
32:17Nevermind what's coming up.
32:18Um, blue lights, just, that's one of the best things on TV.
32:22And I also just finished watching, um, a HD upload of Stephen King's The Storm of the
32:29Century, which was a 1990s TV show that he did about a town in Maine that gets, like,
32:38the Storm of the Century, heavy snow, there's a spooky stranger around.
32:41It's on YouTube.
32:42Like, it's a four-hour upload if you want to watch it.
32:45Cool.
32:46Cool.
32:46That sounds interesting.
32:47So, archivists, it's very spooky.
32:50Yeah.
32:50There's a guy who can, like, tell what people have done and, you know, make people do things.
32:55And, yeah.
32:56Nice.
32:56What can do with some of those powers?
33:00Yeah.
33:00I'm, just a few things for me.
33:02I'm watching The Guest, which I've been enjoying.
33:05I haven't made it to the end yet, but I'm still in a kind of, like, don't know who the
33:09bad guy is phase, which is interesting.
33:10I think it was quite well written.
33:13Haven't started Blue Lights, but it's on my list for later this week.
33:16Enjoying the morning show, I must say.
33:18Continuing with Ted Lasso.
33:20Just about to start.
33:21Slow Horses.
33:22And, obviously, celebrity traitors for the win over the next few weeks.
33:28So, look, there is loads and loads and loads of way on.
33:31Thanks for joining us today.
33:32If you have any suggestions for TV or film we need to get into our lives, drop us a line
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33:37We'd love for you to rate, review and subscribe to the podcast so we can reach as many TV lovers
33:41as possible.
33:42We'll be back again soon with more Screened Babble.
33:45Thanks, Matt.
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