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Doug Karsch and Scott Anderson open up the phone lines on 97.1 The Ticket as Lions fans debate the team's post-trade deadline direction and championship ceiling.

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00:11coming up we'll have the best of what the coordinators told the media yesterday as we
00:15get set for this game against new england talking about the pistons and the lions both teams
00:19competing at a high level who's got a better chance to win the whole thing 248-539-9797 you
00:25ready to go back to the phones yeah let's do it uh edwards in detroit you're next up here 971
00:30hey
00:30edward good morning guys i'm just forced to shift up based off a call that was just made
00:36because he just stepped on one of my pet peeves if anybody believes that dan campbell is some kind
00:43of bystander i just want to remind everybody listening that the ford family in unconventional
00:49way hired dan campbell before they hired their general manager teams in the nfl don't do it
00:57like that they bring in the general manager and then the general manager goes get some their guy
01:01so don't forget that this is not some one year two year thing this is an identity of the detroit
01:09lions and to think that dan campbell and his square jaw on his broad broad shoulders and his occasionally
01:17short interviews if dan campbell didn't want something to happen in the lions organization
01:23and he's just going to be a bystander it's not going to happen that's ridiculous he is lockstep
01:29with brad holmes like ebony and ivory they are in unison and this is the identity of the team and
01:36we
01:36got to get used to it i like how you put it and it's hard to disagree with that dog
01:43i think i think
01:44he's spot on i think they are in lockstep and now i'm sure they have differences and he's talked
01:50about that yeah but they talk them out and they respect each other well i think when when dan
01:56campbell's going to go out and talk in front of cameras and microphones because he's the first one
01:59to do that brad holmes hasn't done that yet he's not going to throw brad holmes under the bus i'm
02:05not
02:05going to sit here and say that he agrees with everything that brad's going to do but he has to
02:10be
02:10good with what brad holmes is doing would he prefer something else in other circumstances
02:15probably i think it's just human nature but they have to present a united front at least while the
02:22season's going on well we've seen what happens when an organization doesn't present a united front
02:28when you have a player saying we could have used some help and then the gm saying the player should
02:31have done better what happens then and everything blew up the gm's gone the player's gone and uh yes do
02:40they should they present on a united front yes should they have differences i hope they do i hope
02:45they do have differences you know because one person can't rule with an iron fist well i guess
02:52they can but i think it's better if you got smart people to share ideas and and and come up
02:59with the
02:59best game plan between the two of you uh yeah i mean of course it helps to have a coach
03:06and a general
03:06manager that are kind of in sync with each other and i think for the most part these guys are
03:11but
03:11i can't i find it hard to believe that they would agree on everything yeah i think they may talk
03:16things
03:17out and have an understanding as to why this works and uh and and and it's kind of like okay
03:21i can see
03:22somebody's philosophy i don't have to agree with it but i can see where the logic is behind it in
03:26certain
03:27things uh 248-539-9797 james is in oak park james welcome to 97.1 hey james how y'all
03:35doing good
03:35that brad holmes need to be fired three years ago i've been saying that three years ago yep you would
03:43have fired him after the nfc championship game hey larry hill um rick carlough got fired and he took
03:51his team to the um to the nba you i just wanted to understand you would have fired brad holmes
03:57after
03:58the nfc championship game before the 15 and 2 season you you would have fired him because rick carlisle
04:07the the pistons moved out from rick carlisle yeah upgrade just like the group replaced it um
04:14what's his name with temper i'm all right look i'll let that one go uh honestly you you know
04:25you know what's a very safe position what's an incredibly safe position that our team isn't
04:31going to win it like you could say any year i'll that you could just take the field we're not
04:38going
04:38to win it and he should be fired and and that you know chances are they're they're they're 16 to
04:451
04:45like they're not the favorite there's 32 teams in this thing and and every league you can take the
04:52position our team's not going to win to fire everybody but to say what do you think the reaction
04:58around the nfl would have been if they had fired him after the getting to the nc championship game
05:02um what what the f what are they doing what are they doing and if you fired him after a
05:1015 and 2
05:11season um because they lost to to the commanders that you're in the playoffs um which sucked it did
05:18suck yeah uh was that a brad holmes mistake or was that a bad name from jared goff and i
05:23try to show
05:24respect to everybody but that calls absurd i would have fired him after they lost in the nfc title game
05:30that's that's absurd yeah you can say that you don't like what's happened over the last couple
05:34years that you'd rather them not re-sign their own guys and go out and get some new blood in
05:39here and
05:39make a move at the trade deadline and um i don't think you're gonna get much of an argument as
05:45far
05:45as the make a move at the trade deadline stuff uh if you thought there was a better option than
05:50re-signing one of your own free agents okay i'm open to that conversation too but to be at the
05:56point where you think he's got to go let alone that he had to go three years ago
06:00that that might be a little bit well three years ago is absurd people are growing impatient and i
06:04got it yeah i mean i'm not happy you're not happy no but i'm not i also don't think i'm
06:10not writing
06:11them off they have i don't think they have no shot here like i said i don't think what they
06:16did at the
06:16trade deadline and what they didn't do with the trade deadline to me isn't disqualifying as a team
06:20that can can win it all but i'm disappointed i really wish they'd given it some gas and i'm and
06:27this
06:27year more than ever before because there were more trades than ever before we had close to a record
06:31number of first and second round picks moved we've had you know the fourth most trades ever at a trade
06:37deadline at whatever that stat was i read earlier whatever it is and we have prices that are now
06:44public for players they could have used this year i think the criticism is very very valid keith is in
06:51romeo you're next up here 97 one hey keith hey guys couple of things and i just i wanted to
06:58tag along on what you're just talking about it's kind of absurd to say hey look you know 31 teams
07:03aren't going to win so to say that your team's not going to win this year and that but what
07:07i would
07:08also say to you is to say that 31 teams aren't going to win and we didn't go out and
07:13get somebody
07:14and that's an excuse you know it seems to me look i think the trouble i have with the lions
07:20right now
07:21is we know a great defense can stop a great offense we saw it minnesota stopped our offense
07:28it was really it really wasn't good especially in the first half uh it really wasn't good who won
07:34the game we've seen that happen hold on we've seen that happen already would you agree a great defense
07:40can stop a great offense on some days i mean yeah but the team still won the game usually
07:46but you know what i haven't seen from the lions yet i haven't seen them stop a great offense
07:52and that's what worries me they can be stopped and they've been stopped the last three games we've seen
07:58it against opponents that are not as good as others but we've seen them get stopped but we have not
08:04seen them stop a good or great offense yet you didn't think the packers was a good offense no
08:11the packers the packers were too one-dimensional um and well they're like top third in the league
08:16in total offense and points they're too one packers are too one-dimensional you can load up they can be
08:24they are one-dimensional they held the packers to two more points than what they average on this season
08:28they're not a bad offense well i will i will say i will say to you that i don't believe
08:35i think
08:36that's an anomaly that's a a rivalry game and that's an anomaly the packers did great against
08:41other teams who you're gonna make a statement is the vikings game an anomaly it's a rivalry game is
08:48that an anomaly too the vikings offense the vikings offense is terrible and their defense is great we all
08:54know that okay okay so when the lions actually scored more than the vikings defense was able to
08:59prevent was that just a statistical anomalization no but you notice that they didn't come anywhere
09:05near what they've been scoring did they i noticed they won and that dude you i mean seriously i i'm
09:11i'm yes the the better teams are going to be harder to beat there's no question about it you are
09:16correct to say that the packers aren't even a good offense okay they're top 12 in the nfl and points
09:23per game in total offense and you know they are one-dimensional for sure but when you it's all
09:30relative to the rest of the league when you make a statement like that and maybe maybe we remove that
09:36statement and say your concerns are still valid and so i don't want to completely dismiss your call
09:41but yes you are correct the better teams are going to be harder to beat that is that is accurate
09:49they were good enough to beat the vikings defense they did enough offensively to beat the vikings
09:55defense but there's no question that your conclusion that the better teams are going to be harder to
10:01beat is accurate i disagree with the premise that they haven't played a good offense or they haven't
10:07slowed down a good offense i think the packers qualify as a good offense they're not below average
10:12one-dimensional yes 248-539-9797 karson anderson 971

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