00:00Vince, I was taking my lovely stroll around Castle Island yesterday and I bumped into a listener who confronted me
00:05in a very kind way and said, Curtis, tell me it's just shtick.
00:11You're not worried about Drake May.
00:13And I said, sorry, sir.
00:16Good morning.
00:17Good afternoon.
00:18Whatever it was.
00:19I am worried.
00:21He doesn't suck.
00:23I don't think he's bad.
00:24I think he's a lovely person.
00:25He married up.
00:26Good guy.
00:27All of the above.
00:27Seems like a nice person.
00:31But the reaction, I think, the stronger the defense, not shine because he's like an OG Drake guy.
00:37I'm not putting him in this category.
00:39Appreciate that.
00:39Would you call him a Stan?
00:41Yeah.
00:42He's a Drake Stan.
00:43Right.
00:43He's been there since the beginning.
00:45He's like you and Robert.
00:48I just, the fear, like if you know something's good and somebody says it's bad, you don't react that way.
00:57Big fan since your junior year at UNC.
01:01Are you talking about Jordan or Drake?
01:03Drake.
01:04Okay.
01:05And the numbers are coming in.
01:08I've seen the, did you guys see the PFF stuff about the pressure?
01:13So according to Pro Football Focus, through the first two weeks, Drake May has faced the fourth most pressure in
01:20the NFL.
01:22So a big sticking point has been that the offensive line has looked good and he's looked bad.
01:26Well, that puts a little bit of a monkey wrench in that argument.
01:30However, what I would say is that Drake causes pressure by being indecisive.
01:38And indecisiveness comes from a lack of confidence.
01:42A lack of confidence comes from not feeling like you're giving the answers to the test before the test.
01:49There is an issue with him and the coordinator and how he is being prepared and how he is playing.
01:55I don't, Drake is the guy that is the quarterback and he gets the blame.
02:00But it is not shtick.
02:02I think that person represents a lot of people that thinks we just come on here and say bombastic things
02:06and seeking a reaction.
02:08I am legitimately concerned about Drake May.
02:11I don't think he sucks.
02:13But what I have seen through the first two weeks, you had a week and a half after the Wednesday
02:17night game.
02:19A.J. Brown went down right after the half in Seattle.
02:22The offense you saw should have been more representative of what you expect to be for the next five to
02:28seven weeks without A.J. Brown.
02:30And it sucked.
02:32And you had Travion Henderson.
02:34Ramondre Stevenson fumbles immediately.
02:37Drake May throws a back-breaking pick.
02:40To me, you can't start now saying against the Jacksonville Jaguars.
02:44Well, on when you's out, you can't say injury success had nothing to do with your success.
02:49And then say injuries are causing your failure in the succeeding year.
02:53So, you got to get on board.
02:55If he is what you think he is, he will figure it out and he will turn it around relatively
02:58soon.
02:59That's where I clearly stand.
03:00And I'm not that concerned.
03:02Are you putting this more on Josh McDaniels, though, now?
03:06No, I just think confidence is something that is, you can't touch it, but you can see it and you
03:13can understand it.
03:14And the lack of confidence is there.
03:17And that is on your coaching staff to pump your tires to get you to a place where you feel
03:22like you can handle the job.
03:23And if they can't do that, then it's the wrong coach coaching them.
03:26Like, this is a massive year for the New England Patriots.
03:29If Drake May is what you think he is, he's going to be making $70 million at the end of
03:33this year, and the roster is going to change.
03:36Like, you really need to make hay right now, and they haven't been able to do that through two weeks.
03:41Okay, Curtis.
03:42Good morning.
03:43So, I've been thinking about this, and I kind of wrote some stuff down and trying to figure out the
03:47whole Drake May situation.
03:48And I know it's only through two weeks.
03:50And so, I'll ask the question to everybody, the room, the people out there listening, is when we start, we
03:57always hear Jones and Keith talking about their tears.
04:00And so, I wonder, when I start to look, to me, I think there's three tears of player and quarterback,
04:09right?
04:09I think there's your top tier, that's your big dogs, right?
04:12The ones that, you know, when they stomp, everybody hears it.
04:16Then there's your second tier where it's like, that boy good.
04:20And then I think there's the third tier, the passenger prince.
04:24And I wonder if Drake, and I don't know, because I got him in a group of people where I
04:32have them as the jury still out.
04:34Because the passenger princes, to me, are all like the Justin Herberts, the Dak Prescots, the Trevor Lawrences, the Jalen
04:42Hurts, the CJ Strouds, the Brock Purdy's, Jordan Love's, the Baker Mayfield's.
04:47And then they're like, that boy good is the Joe Burrow, and then the big dogs are Lamar, Josh, and
04:55Mahomes, in my opinion.
04:56And I think the jury's out with Drake, Caleb, Jaden Daniels, and I don't know where those guys are going
05:03to fall.
05:04So, I wonder where, because of where Drake May is, where he's going to fall.
05:11Is he going to be passenger prince, you know, MAC 2.0?
05:15Now, I'm surprised that you're saying jury's still out, because off air yesterday, you and I, after we had Ty
05:20on, said it's interesting that people keep going back to A.J. Brown.
05:23Well, he lost A.J. Brown. He lost A.J. Brown.
05:25And so then we said, well, doesn't that kind of make him a passenger prince in that case?
05:31If he's dependent so much on the number one receiver and he can't elevate the rest of the team, then
05:39that kind of is MAC-esque.
05:41MAC 2.0, that's why I wrote down.
05:44So, the question is, honestly, it's going to be very difficult for me to sit here after two weeks and
05:51say that he is MAC Jones 2.0.
05:54That should be a good thing for you.
05:55You were MAC Island president.
05:57Yes, I stuck by MAC.
05:59I was wrong about that, though.
06:01I was wrong about MAC Jones.
06:04I just don't.
06:06You're right about Luciano's, though.
06:08And a better version of that, and when I say MAC 2.0, that's like a Brock Purdy, right?
06:13So, a better version.
06:14So, I asked the question, can Drake May carry the team on his own?
06:20He did.
06:21Well, he didn't carry the team last year.
06:23He elevated the wide receivers that he had last season.
06:26That's carrying the team.
06:27All season long, yeah.
06:28Like, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, those guys carry their team, right?
06:35When you think about those guys, you go, these guys carry their team.
06:38I mean, Drake May has been through a Super Bowl.
06:41Lamar Jackson has not.
06:42I know.
06:43I know that, but that's why I said the jury's still.
06:45It's only one.
06:45If you're telling me pump the brakes, and I put him in the jury's still out category,
06:49then I can't get all up in arms over a Super Bowl in one year.
06:54I do want you to pump the brakes.
06:55All right.
06:55But, so, I'm asking, where do you think he falls?
06:59I would call it, I would say it needs to be break May.
07:02Like, let's pump the brakes a little bit on criticizing him.
07:05But, I don't know.
07:06Shyam, I know where Shyam has him.
07:08Wouldn't you say the 2021 season by Mac Jones, Mac did more with less than Drake May did last year,
07:14considering his receiving core was Nelson Aguilar and Kendrick Bourne.
07:18If you really want to continue the Mac comparison, Mac Jones had nothing around him.
07:24Yeah, but he wasn't even close to runner-up for MVP.
07:27No, I know, but they won 10 games.
07:28If we're talking about what.
07:30And the Patriots last year won 14.
07:32Mac was an alternate pro bowler.
07:34He was.
07:35He threw a touchdown pass in the pro bowl.
07:37If you remember.
07:39He wasn't just an alternate.
07:40He was a pro bowler.
07:41Oh, yeah.
07:41Well, because everybody else rejected the honor.
07:43Right.
07:43I mean, he was throwing to my guy, Devin Asiasi, you know, and Nikhil Harry.
07:48Listen, we don't know, but it has been, whether you want to mock my foundationally altering comment.
07:56By the way, I'm getting blown up by Nink on my text line here.
07:59Yeah, so is Wiggy.
08:01He's really, really pissed about Brian Hoyer replacing him on Wednesdays.
08:05Oh, he is?
08:05Yeah.
08:06He was saying, he was suggesting other things to Wiggy about some kind of a rift in the organization.
08:11Yeah, I know.
08:11I'll let him speak on that.
08:13I don't know if he wants to talk.
08:14I don't know if he wants to talk about that.
08:16That's very intriguing.
08:17I'm fully team Nink, just so in case he's bigger than I am and he's smarter than I am.
08:22No, I am.
08:23Listen, we don't know what Mac is going to be this season.
08:26He was awesome last year.
08:27I think he's going to be a much.
08:29You named me Drake May.
08:29Yeah, I'm sorry.
08:30Drake May was awesome last year.
08:32I believe he's a much better player than Mac Jones.
08:34I think he's going to be a much better player than Mac Jones.
08:38However, we can't keep giving all of these stipulations about how it's everybody else's fault.
08:44If you are a franchise quarterback and I was leading the charge $60, $70 million a year after this season,
08:50then you have to have ownership of it.
08:53The lack of a timeout when they get to delay a game after the big play on Sunday, like, what
08:58are you doing?
08:59And that's why I asked the question, right?
09:01Like, that's a basic thing, right?
09:02We all agree.
09:03That's on the quarterback.
09:04Yeah.
09:04Unless the play call doesn't come in on time.
09:06So you know the play clock's coming down.
09:08Call timeout.
09:09Right.
09:09And that's where I asked the question.
09:11And then you can yell at the coordinator.
09:13Like, when we think of these guys, right?
09:15And I brought up a list of names.
09:17And when I brought up Herbert, Dak Prescott, Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purdy, like, Jordan Love, Baker Mayfield,
09:24like, these quarterbacks are good.
09:26No one's not saying they're not good quarterbacks.
09:28But are you going to say those guys can carry the team?
09:33Or are they more like the passenger prince?
09:36Like, you got to have everything around them going well in order for them to put you in a position
09:41to be able to win or get to a Super Bowl?
09:44Wiggy, I think it's fine if you decide that you want to wait and say the jury's out on guys
09:49like Caleb Williams and Jake May and Jayden Denham.
09:51I think that's okay because, like, if you look at just – just go by the numbers of, like, Drake
09:56May compared to Justin Herbert and Josh Allen.
09:58Drake May's first 31 games – he's only started 31 games – has been better than Josh Allen.
10:03The exact same, by the way, amount of turnovers between the two of them in their first 31 games.
10:08Whereas Justin Herbert's numbers are, like, light years better than both of them.
10:12Right?
10:12And so I just think quarterback evolution isn't necessarily completely linear.
10:16There's ups and there's downs.
10:18And you do need a larger sample size to determine, okay, this guy's a – like, a top-tier quarterback
10:24in football.
10:25I think that's totally fair to have.
10:28All right.
10:29I – like, the Drake May haters are constantly texting in when this comes up and coming at me.
10:37And somebody says, Greg, it's not two weeks.
10:40It's six weeks when you include last season.
10:42I mean, remind me, Shime, did he not beat pretty good defenses during that run in the playoffs?
10:49He sure did, Greg.
10:51Beat the Chargers, the Texans, the Broncos.
10:54Yeah.
10:55And then lost to the Seahawks.
10:56Yeah.
10:56See, I'm not even counting last year.
10:57I'm just strictly focused on this year, these two games.
11:00So you're making a judgment, again, based on just two weeks.
11:03Well, I'm making – yeah.
11:04That's my concern.
11:05Well, I'm making an initial judgment of what I've seen through the first two weeks, right?
11:08You want me to talk about what –
11:10Yes, of course.
11:10And so –
11:11I love it, Coach.
11:11And that's why I said, going into, like, my expectations where he was going to be one of the best
11:17quarterbacks in the league within the first two weeks.
11:20I knew that he was playing a good team in Seattle, but I'm like, oh, this dude is good.
11:25He's one of the worst quarterbacks in the league right now, and I didn't see that one coming.
11:29To be clear, I always trust your judgment on these kinds of things.
11:34When it comes to evaluating talent, I will never forget the moment that you told us all that the Patriots
11:41ought to pay Cam Newton $30, $35 million.
11:43Yeah.
11:44I will never forget that.
11:44That was the Golden Raiders at the time.
11:46You were spot on on that.
11:47I was, but they didn't want to do it.
11:48I wish they had done that.
11:49Cam Newton would still be the quarterback of this football team.
11:51Well, Cam Newton for MVP.
11:54Bill was smart about that.
11:56He didn't want to invest that much money into a guy after two weeks.
