00:00Oh, yeah. Magic number down to two. Yes, it is. Absolutely love it. It's just kind of a
00:07Guardians win, right? Would you call that guards ball in the quintessential sense that
00:12we've been referring to guards ball, leaving a bunch of runners on base? Yeah. And then
00:16giving up the lead, just going and hitting one in the gap and we score around and we win.
00:21And then we win. I mean, do you want to? There's no style points here. No. Oh,
00:26that's the great thing about this, this type of baseball where every game seems like it's life
00:30or death because you have to keep up with the Joneses. Well, that's exactly what you have to
00:35do. Game in and game. I got like no margin for error. That's, that's the fun part about the last
00:39week of the season and, and try, well, I think they'll make the playoffs, but just trying to
00:43win the division is where it's just like, like if you win a game in May and it's like, well,
00:50you're leaving a bunch of runners on base. This is going to catch up to you. This, that,
00:55and the other, it's like, well, you can kind of like, okay, we won, but there's a, but. And then
01:00now it's just like, no, you won. No, but no, no, no process. It's all doesn't matter. Did they
01:06win or lose? End of story. It doesn't matter. You could be blowing saves. You could bullpen,
01:12you know, napalming and still finding a way to win. Like whatever it takes, you'll, you'll figure
01:17it out. And it just matters what happens in the standing standings because you know, the white
01:22socks last night against the Royals nearly blew it in the ninth. Well, that's what made
01:26a 14 11. They gave up a grand slam in the ninth. Yep. That's what makes a John statement yesterday
01:31even crazier. Cause it's like, well, if they won, they won. Like there's no, there's no leeway
01:37for anything. It's very black and white at this point. So you either win or you lose. He wanted
01:41a, would you call him the, uh, the Prince of baseball? Yeah. Well we have cause Lord baseball's
01:46back. Yeah. So I had to get the Prince of baseball, but I'm not going to do a voice for
01:51him. But he wanted to put a caveat on everything like, yeah, sure. You guys can make an ALCS
01:57run. It was really crazy. But does it matter because of who you beat? We're getting, can
02:02I read that? Should I read the text that we got from, uh, from art? Hold on bus. Oh, here
02:11we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Love when our friends call out people on our
02:14show, listening on rewind, the guardian should win 60 games because then they would spend more
02:18money is quite a take. And I wrote, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Yes, it is. To
02:25which art
02:26responds. Seems like a nice kid, but sheesh, this was bad. Send those takes to the, and I'm
02:32not going to say which show. You know why he's taken a particular interest, our friend, because
02:36he also went to Penn state. That's right. Yeah. So he's monitoring. Oh my God. That's
02:41right. That's a reflection on him. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't want that to come back
02:45on him. Just so art and John both know, uh, tickets for the ALCS go on self Friday. Oh,
02:51Oh, John, John, are you going to call out the Dolans now on that? Are you going to call
02:58out Mark, uh, Mike Chernoff? What are you doing up there? John? John's not listening. I was
03:03answering the phone. What's going on? Oh, now he's answering the phones. No, we don't hate
03:08you, John. I do. I do. Uh, by we, I mean me and collective guardians fans, the left field
03:13crew. Hey, uh, John. Yeah. ALCS tickets go on sale when there on Friday, on Friday. Your
03:20thoughts, John, you want me in line? I just would like them to make the ALCS before they
03:24get to that point. Sensibility. How can you say you'd like him to get to the ALCS before
03:29you get to that point? You already said you don't think that they should make the
03:32ALCS. You said it's a waste of time yesterday. That's what you said. That's not what I said at
03:36all, actually. What did he say, Owen? You said it was a waste of time. Yep. I didn't
03:40say it was a waste of time. I said, I hope if they make the ALCS that it actually changes
03:43something within the organization, they go for it. But you know what? You said it was
03:47pointless to make the ALCS because they won't change how they do more than your opinion
03:51changed today. Yeah. The team that doesn't have a big budget somehow always makes the
03:55ALDS or ALCS. They should change how they do their business. Because losing 60 games, that'll
04:00make them spend a bunch of money. Well, if they lost 60 games, they would have won 102
04:03games. So let's see when Art Modell got really desperate.
04:06Yeah, the team that wins 60 games. There you go. Boom. When Art Modell back in the day
04:09got absurdly desperate, what did he do? He took out a loan to just pay a contract, a signing
04:14bonus to Andre Risen. Yeah. What did the Dolans do? Give me the level of desperation. You
04:20call Cousin Jim and then you get your brother and your sister together and everybody turns.
04:26To get a Cade Smith extension. Yeah. That's what they're going to do. Who, by the way, now
04:29is what? First of 40 saves. Tied for the league league. First of 40 saves. I got
04:33to, I'm not going to say that. I think it's, well, everything's, no, because everything's
04:40going to be a little messy during the off season. So by the way, if you want to hear
04:44that fantastic segment at eight o'clock from John yesterday, you can use the free rewind
04:49feature, which is on the free Odyssey app powered by integrated restoration to local experts
04:52in water, fire and storm disaster restoration. Yeah. John said that it was a pointless to get
04:57to the ALCS. And now was it a pointless win yesterday because Boston may not have put
05:02their best foot forward. They were missing some starters. Does that mean there's an asterisk
05:07by them? Aren't you going up against Sonny Gray today? Yeah. It's their top three starters.
05:12Yeah. We're not. Yeah. We're going to be happy that we got this win. Sonny Gray is a different
05:16animal. They don't do very well against Sonny Gray. So yesterday was a very important win
05:23to get and they got the win. And now the magic numbers down to two. I don't like that. The
05:28White Sox are winning some games here and there, but you get what I'm pointing out.
05:31They shouldn't be allowed to play the Royals at the end of the year. Who? The White Sox.
05:36Well, they should have to play tough. This is dumb. That makes sense. Well, no, because
05:41at the beginning of the year, if you're going to do it, like if we're just not computers and
05:44schedule trying 5,000, then you would bring back the old people. I wish. Are they still with
05:50us? The married couple? They have to be. I hope so. But they did it great because I'm
05:55telling you, if the old, if the couple was there, you wouldn't be playing the Rockies
05:58at the end of the year. That, that vaunted White Sox Rockies series. That whatever algorithm
06:04they use, they said the White Sox will not be involved in. Must have. I bet that's true.
06:10In the race for the AL Central. And they thought that the Guardian, and the computer thought
06:13the Guardian, Bobby Witt Jr., Joe, like they are, you're Italian. You know how to say
06:20that last name right? Caglione? Caglione. Caglione. Caglione. There we go. Ah, John's
06:26corrected me. Two for three today. No, I get yelled at at the Columbus Day Parade, butchering
06:30some of the, some of the club names. He is serious about that. There is one club, the
06:33guy openly cusses him out on Mayfield Road. It is incredible. Owen, are you going to come
06:40this year? Please come. It's a good time. Ah, man, I'm pretty busy that day. You and me
06:44are like the only two non-Italians there. What day is it? Columbus Day? October 12th.
06:50I had appointments. No, you don't. Come on. Mayor Bibb called. Oh, no, he hasn't been
06:54there in seven years. It doesn't matter. If you tell me that he's coming. Well, wait
06:59a minute. No, you got Danny Kelly. Who else you got who shows, who's there? Polencic's
07:04been there. Polencic's been there. Who am I missing? The president. Why can't I, why
07:10am I drawing a blank? Blaine? Yeah, Blaine shows up, shakes hands every year. Blaine's there
07:14every single year. Yeah, shakes hands every year. Really nice. Come on, you don't want to meet
07:18Basil Russo? See if maybe the mayor can make his way over there from his busy schedule
07:22in Country Club or Pepper Pike. Maybe he can get over there. No, he's becoming Jack
07:28Nicholas. He's designing golf courses over here. You think the mayor's going to make it
07:31down to Mayfield Road for the Columbus Day parade? I do think it's important our mayor
07:37has a good handicap, a single-digit handicap. That is important. You know what you need to
07:42do? What's that? Go downstairs to Jay's store, get two Cokes, go on over to City Hall,
07:48make it happen. We had two Cokes and we struck a deal. That's what gets all the red tape out
07:54of the way. Can I bring a chair as an offering? Brand new chair just for the city. But why
08:00can't
08:01the mayor's center? That was one of the greatest segments of TV I've ever seen. Sorry. You got
08:07to go find the Galax and the mayor's chair on that one. All right. Guardians are two games
08:12away from two wins away from the magic numbers, two away from making the postseason. That's
08:19for just guaranteeing it. Just guaranteeing a wild card. Yes. Their magic number is five for
08:26the division. Correct. Because the White Sox won as well last night. Okay. I'm just
08:34wanting to make sure. That's all. Just wanting to make sure. So any combination of Guardians
08:39wins and or the other team's losses. It is like you guys got to understand like it is
08:46it is such a big win last night because I got to tell you I I'm not scheduling a loss
08:52here.
08:53I have a lot of hope but Sonny Gray against the Guardians is is different. So we got to
08:59understand like this is such a big win last night by the Gardos. Huge. Okay. Yeah. So
09:03we're all I know we're going to do a lot of pitching about QBs today. It just takes one loss
09:08for you to think that you screwed up the division and now we're worried about the wild card and
09:13then not being able to optimize our rotation and not getting that rest and then having to
09:18go every day like it's just the pitfalls of not winning this division are actually going
09:23to be pretty considerable. Another thought Harold Reynolds was with us last week and Harold
09:27Reynolds has said some things about the Guardians that haven't been so kind in years but he's
09:31been he's been supportive this year and he said that he thinks that this is actually more of an
09:36impressive job by Stephen Vogt than the last two years which there's no way you complete the
09:41trifecta. You don't get three in a row like Tom Amansky only gets the back to back to back.
09:45You don't get back to back to back manager of the year award. Right? Well that's it normally
09:52disqualifies you because the bar changes. But would you not say that this is the most impressive
09:55of the three years that he's been here? No last year. Last year was more impressive? Yeah because
10:00of the comeback. I know this year they got younger guys but I think the comeback last year was
10:03significant. Okay but a team let me can I make an argument here? Yeah sure. Historically everybody's
10:09going to agree with you and I think I agree with you. Let me can I play devil's advocate? Sure.
10:12Sure. You had to have a team have a complete fall off like almost Willie Randolph almost
10:21Mets well basically Mets style to uh to get you back in like you had to win games but they
10:27had
10:28to lose them. The other teams that you're playing with like yeah there's been a couple of swoons
10:32there but so I mean the whole month of July was basically waste it seemed and then the beginning
10:37of August for the Guardians and I think a lot of people are like all right well training camp's
10:41getting ready to start up like away we go. You've had more you've had more competition
10:46it seems. And you've had more teams like win consistently instead of what happened last
10:52year. That's all that's all I can say. Did you have as many veterans this year as you
10:57had last year? You added Joe Adele. Okay. You added Nathaniel Lowe. Great sacrifice fly
11:02last night to get the lean. You you had you've added those guys but I mean we talk about this
11:07team and how young they are. I mean that was a whole argument against John yesterday. It
11:11was like hey man you're you're gonna run like an NFL team and then we can put pressure when
11:16he's a host in the morning on WIP in Philadelphia and he in this town it's just a memory to
11:22him
11:24and John's just got it falling out of his pockets and he's boiling hot takes over and over again about
11:29the Phillies and maybe he'll remember after he leaves us two years from now that the Guardians
11:37now have to put pressure we have to put pressure on David Blitzer to possibly pay Travis Bazzana we
11:42have to put him on put pressure on him possibly pay Chase DeLauter that type of thing. Just ask him.
11:48Just ask. Well I listen he's definitely done an outstanding job you know this the fact that
11:54we're even sitting here again there were a great job man what was it a month and a half ago
11:57we're
11:57like anybody think they're still making the playoffs and it was tough to get anybody uh truly exuberant
12:05about exactly about where this was heading and that's why because remember the only thing I could
12:09say remember that the Ramirez injury yes Angel so how could that not how could this year not be
12:16as impressive we lost like four guys in in a day if you take guys in a day it was
12:20Jose on hell
12:21and DeLauter yeah if you just leave it to foot to football if you just leave it to baseball
12:29it can make you can make an argument this is this is more impressive that's the only thing I can
12:33say
12:34last year was historic but what you guys just said you lost three players at one time
12:40you you lost Jose Ramirez with a with a bone injury that he had to get surgery surgery on
12:46he's playing hurt uh you have young guys in the rotation like Tanner Bybee I think a lot of fans
12:52felt that Gavin Williams would be taking over as your ace that is not surprising Parker Messick
12:58doing as well as he is where where could you see him second or third in the ALCS or the
13:02ALCS
13:03American League Cy Young Messick in the Cy Young yeah I know I'm saying second or third not first
13:10this season yeah no you can't see him finishing third in Cy Young voting maybe I mean he's got a
13:17case for AL rookie of the year but I don't know Cy Young well wait a damn minute hold on
13:26let me take a look at this hmm okay maybe third or fourth and Cy Young get you to fourth
13:35I'll I'll
13:36I'll meet you at fourth well I'm just pointing out we're in semantics there we are a little bit
13:41I just I'm looking real quick I ran a quick uh just give me some comparisons veteran course the same
13:48Jose Quan Hedges right established hitters it says uh last year it was Carlos Santana and Lane Thomas
13:55and now you've got Joe Adele uh and you got um Nathaniel Lowe and then they brought up Reese Hoskins
14:02who was kind of our uh Carlos Santana per se yeah and then uh the the pitching staff is a
14:10little bit
14:11different in the like the mid reliever type of stuff but you you traded in Ben Lively
14:17well Ben Lively didn't even play last year Ben Lively um remember they traded Shane Beamer last
14:24year in the middle of the season oh that's right I always passed him and waved as he packed his
14:30boxes
14:30up see I was like well Cam Schlitter will win but who's then who's after that and I've I always
14:35forget
14:35about Drew Rasmussen which you think I'd remember because of the poll you would think I'd remember
14:40because of the poll but nothing all right coming up at 720 Brian Baldinger going to join us on the
14:47show is Watson good to go in Munkin's mind or is he week to week now
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