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In this episode we discuss the September 22nd episode of WWE NXT and discuss the NXT men's and women's championship picture, the booking of the Dusty Classic, and discuss the outlook for the women's division. Also in this episode we discuss Simone Johnson and whether she plans to return to professional wrestling, Nic Nemeth discusses the TNA- WWE relationship, and a New Japan Superstar makes it clear that they want to see a more balanced approach to the relationship with AEW.
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06:07all of you tonight we are talking nxt and here's the thing i'll be the first one to admit i
06:13usually watch
06:14nxt on replay i don't watch it live because i have a very busy schedule those who know me know
06:19i work multiple jobs and it's it's difficult to get to every single wrestling show tonight one of
06:24the exciting things for me is it is the start of the dusty classic the tag team tournament in nxt
06:29i still as i said in my last episode i really would have preferred to see some tna talents in
06:34this
06:34tournament but we'll get into that a little later because that's going to play into something we're
06:37going to talk about but the show opens with los americanos taking on noam dar and romeo marino
06:43and here's the thing going into this match because of the success of el grande americano i would have
06:49expected rio and bravo to win i really would especially when you know that underneath those
06:55masks you're really talking about tyler bait and uh pete dunn two incredibly talented world travelers
07:02who have done it all in wwe in terms of being just solid in-ring workers you would think with
07:07the
07:07popular of el grande that they would also be getting a push instead what shocks me here
07:12first off noam dar is pound for pound one of the best wrestlers in the world that guy is incredible
07:16i love him working with romeo marino because it's clear that his experience and if you don't know
07:22what i'm talking about do a search on youtube for noam dar matches back when he was in chikara and
07:28places like that this guy has been having quality i mean high level matches for 20 years now um the
07:35fact that he gets to showcase his talent with a young talent in this tournament is wonderful the fact
07:39that they had noam dar and romeo marino win this match is even more exciting to me because you're
07:45showcasing new talent now again like i said i would have expected los americanos to win they did not
07:51i'm not mad about that i'm actually excited for the opportunity it's presented to a new team
07:56i was just thoroughly surprised from there we get kaylee armstrong taking sky taking on skylar ray
08:01here's the thing um these young ladies clearly are not at the apex of the women's division yet in
08:08nxt but they are a testament to how strong the women's divisions across all brands are in wwe whether
08:15it's triple a evolve nxt raw smackdown doesn't matter wwe is flush with incredible female talent
08:23the division is as rich and deep as it has ever been before and these young ladies are building a
08:29resume to one day be the ones to take over nxt when all those talents move to the main roster
08:33and i'm sure that leads to a whole lot of main roster people getting cut at some point because
08:37they'll probably won't want to take a pay cut uh but whatever it is what it is now before the
08:41end of
08:41the match we have reina vulkin come out and she slams kaylee armstrong and she hits an f5 or goes
08:48to
08:48hit an f5 on on uh skylar ray who when she hits the move skylar ray's arm drapes over kaylee
08:55armstrong and she picks up the win now to me it's an interesting finish not necessarily the way i
09:00would have booked it but i thought it certainly opens the door to future matches between all three
09:05of these young ladies but there is going to be a problem i have and that's going to come up
09:09in the
09:09next match we have kilani jordan and zarya taking on la carolina and thea hale on paper this is a
09:18dream
09:19match in terms of nxt talent all four of these ladies can go at the highest level all four should
09:25really be main roster stars sooner than later the problem is you can only bring so many people to
09:29the main roster before you run out of room for everybody unless you're going to add another
09:33program or elevate nxt to its own a main roster brand in and of itself i actually much prefer that
09:39um that being said what i did not like i love the match i have no problem with the match
09:45like i said
09:46these ladies can go here's my only problem is with the finish at the finish of the match you have
09:53zarya setting up thea hale for an f5 now here's the thing we just watched a match finish with the
09:58f5
09:59i don't want to see the f5 turn into the new super kick or the new spear where everybody's doing
10:06it the
10:06f5 is a special thing that brock lesnar did so if one person wants to use it i get it
10:13it makes a lot
10:14of sense but when you start having back-to-back matches with people hitting f5s it's going to bring
10:20down the impact of seeing that hole because it's something you see more regularly and i don't want
10:25to have that happen i'd like to keep that move special if you want to give it to one wrestler
10:29in nxt and have them carry on the legacy of you know performing the f5 amen to that i'm okay
10:35with
10:35that but i don't want to see it back-to-back matches this one does not hit the f5 is
10:40countered
10:41into a roll-up and we see la catalina and thea hale win the match defeating kalani jordan and zarya
10:46shocking end but at the same time really compelling it furthers some of the storylines we know there's
10:52been all this bickering between these ladies over the nxt women's championship and this is a perfect
10:57segue to a future match which i'm sure is coming up very very soon in the back we get a
11:03segment of
11:04sean legacy talking to zilla fatu and darian van dukes is not going to be able to be there he
11:09has a
11:09punctured lung um he shows up and he claims that he's good to go but they've already announced a
11:15replacement ek prosper is going to replace him tonight he is obviously very upset about that
11:19decision um you could read it on his face obviously this is going to lead attention later further down
11:24the road at some point but for now this was a great way to keep everybody involved but also put
11:30on a
11:31match that's high quality and further um ek prosper's growth which has been just he's been on a meteoric
11:37rise lately from there cruise montana's in the ring he's putting mason rook and grayson waller on notice
11:45he's coming for the winner of the nxt championship match um and honestly i don't know how to feel
11:52about this because cruise montana's been in the world championship picture since he got to nxt
11:56he's not capitalized on any of those opportunities and i haven't really seen him in any other feud since
12:02now they're kind of teasing that now because we get the music played for dark state deon lennox comes
12:08out and he's talking trash and it goes back and forth for quite a while uh references to cruise
12:13montana's long tenure as a professional wrestler being in tna things like that him defending how hard
12:18he's worked to be in the position that he's in um and eventually it leads to a brawl and these
12:23two
12:23start fighting and obviously this is an exciting thing in my opinion because it moves cruise montana out
12:29of the world championship picture into a new program which i think is very valuable um and i think he
12:34should stay there for a little while let him get some more um get some more sympathy from the crowd
12:40to really want to see him win that championship instead of him walking in the door and immediately
12:44being thrust into the world championship picture i think that was a bad idea to begin with
12:49from there our second match in the dusty classic tag team tournament the creeds taken on harley higgins
12:55and jacks presley and quite frankly with the way they've hyped up the creeds coming in one of two
13:01things was going to happen here either they were just going to demolish their opponents or we were
13:05going to get a shock victory for their opponents and then they were going to you know be pushed down
13:10the card thankfully it was the earlier not the latter the creeds basically dominate harley higgins
13:16and jacks presley all the way through the match they pick up the win they move on in the dusty
13:19classic
13:20they announced the rest of the pairings for the tournament that's a good thing i think it gives
13:24people the opportunity to have some expectations um which is always good from there we get to a big
13:29six-man tag team match or a trios match zilla fatu ek prosper sean legacy um they were accompanied
13:35to the ring by darian van dux when they get out there they're taking on birthright with ariana grace
13:42lots of interplay with all the members in the match stacks is out there uriah connors had i think
13:47uriah connors is severely underrated he is so solid if you don't know this is the son of fit finley
13:53so it's in his blood brother to david finley um and lexus king who is the son of flying brian
14:00pillman
14:01um these three guys they they i love that they're paired up for some reasons but i actually feel
14:08like it kind of holds them back at the same time they've all got a unique seal set and i
14:13don't feel
14:13like they always mesh together tonight they did much better than i've seen previously um at the end
14:19of the match we end up seeing um birthright win the match and what is more exciting to me is
14:26the
14:26face-off with uh zilla fatu and lexus king obviously we're headed for something big there i think that's
14:33a great idea um it'll it'll further yeah i we got to keep zilla out of the world championship picture
14:39it's going to get crowded up there much like smackdown is right now and i don't want to see that
14:43so this gives zilla something to do of substance until it's time for him to ascend to an nxt championship
14:49program the ending segment of the show we end up having grayson waller come out the nxt champion
14:55mason rook comes out they're going to have a conversation and look i was thoroughly entertained
15:01with the uh the callbacks the fact that uh mason rook said he has a theory as to why waller
15:09is back
15:10in nxt obviously a callback to austin theory as former tag team partner that maybe he didn't match
15:16the vision of the main roster which again absolutely hilarious the play on words he just kept going for
15:23grayson waller this is going to be a great match i thought it was nice that waller actually put him
15:28over for the first part of the promo um by the end he obviously turns that around and obviously he's
15:33super confident which he should be um mason rook they referenced several times about john cena has
15:39known him since before he was in wwe john cena is a big fan of mason rooks so um we'll
15:45have to see
15:45how that all plays into the storyline going forward i would love to see john cena appear in the crowd
15:51when these two face off at a major event that would be awesome talk about giving a kid the rub
15:56um and
15:58they they seem to be very high on mason rook and let's be honest the guy can move for a
16:02guy his size
16:03the move sets that he can hit and if you don't know what i'm talking about go onto youtube and
16:08pull
16:09a pursuit pro wrestling where mason rook spent uh several years as a talent there and they do all
16:14these video shorts where it's mason rook and many other talents that they have on their roster um
16:19uh leon slater wrestled for them as well you could look at their videos and see the moves this guy
16:25can
16:25put on there is some fantastic stuff so i'm not surprised wbe's high on him i thought this was a
16:31solid show top to bottom out of five stars i'll give it three and a half stars for an nxt
16:36show um
16:37good stuff further storylines didn't get too convoluted and the most important thing for me is
16:43in comparison with the rest of the main roster we're not crowding the world champion you know
16:47we're not we're not doing that we're keeping that world championship between grace and waller
16:51and mason rook everybody else who has an interest in that championship is tied up in something else
16:56and that's very healthy i think for keeping the matches uh very very grounded um the women's side
17:03of things a little more crowded but you only have four and it's obvious they were building to that
17:08for quite a while now i suspect the best move would be not to do a four-person match but
17:13to do
17:13multiple individual matches but you know wwe they love these multi-person opportunities i'm sure that's
17:18probably where they're headed let's get into the last couple tidbits for this episode because
17:22there's some really interesting things going on one yoda suji iwgp champion new japan pro wrestling
17:30superstar making it very clear he's very frustrated with the lack of balance in the partnership with
17:35aew and that he wants to have more balance going forward more aew stars appearing on new japan pro
17:41wrestling shows to help with the viewership of those shows and a better representation of new japan
17:47pro wrestling stars on aew television where a lot of people feel like they don't get the fair
17:52shake oftentimes on aew shows aew talent ends up winning every match against new japan stars and
17:58that's not healthy for the relationship on top of that aew signing so many new japan talents away
18:04from new japan to exclusive contracts probably doesn't sit well with new japan either and it may
18:09be time much like the aew deal with cmll to start signing dual contracts in both aew and new japan
18:17maybe
18:17a triple contract in all three companies to really allow talent to go to all three and
18:22be active members of all the shows because that's going to be a fair partnership like it's not like
18:28wwe and tna that that started out solid and that's sour we've reported on that in previous episodes
18:34matter of fact this episode nick nemeth nick nemeth was out today talking on busted open about how he
18:40has no concern that there are no tna talent tag teams in the dusty classic unlike me i think there
18:46should
18:46have been one he's busy being tna world champion a world tag team champion he and his brother they're
18:51very busy but i still think it would have been a good idea to have some tna talent there if
18:55you're
18:55actually trying to foster this relationship now nick nemeth was very adamant that the relationship he
19:00feels like has been beneficial to both companies he hopes it continues to do that it's got to be the
19:05right timing the right appeal the right storyline so he said a lot of really positive things here now i
19:10don't know if he has any inside information maybe we're going to see some more crossover in the near
19:14future i hope we do but for right now we're kind of waiting in limbo and the last thing for
19:19tonight
19:19that i that i got to touch on simone johnson if you don't remember who that is that is the
19:25rock's
19:25daughter she was the general manager for uh nxt for quite a while and she ended up leaving the company
19:32over some concerns i i will say there's some political division between her vision of how things
19:38should be and what she felt like wbe represented that being said she was asked in the what do you
19:44want to talk about show with cody rhodes about whether she has closed the book on her wrestling
19:49career and she said she hopes not she had been wrestling she ended up taking some injuries she was
19:54not feeling well stopped wrestling got into the gm role and really would like to give that another go
20:00and i think that's a great thing i really do i don't think she ever really got the opportunity to
20:05really hone her skills long enough before they rushed her right to television which was a bad idea
20:10probably soured her a little bit on it now she's healthy she's happy and i think at some point the
20:18door probably is always going to be open to anybody in in the entire samoan dynasty to come back i
20:24hope
20:24she gives another go when she's ready to do that perhaps it's after current administration in the
20:29united states leaves office because it sounds like that's one of her big concerns is the friendship
20:33between the the administration and wwe but i don't know we'll have to wait and see either way
20:38i hope she gets another opportunity to go give it another go it'd be great to see the rock's daughter
20:43um actually turn into a solid performer i don't know if she has that skill set i hope she does
20:48i want
20:49i want everybody to have a great skill set in professional wrestling but sadly that's not always
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