00:00Curtis, just to confirm during the break, I went to the source,
00:03and I called and woke Bradfow up.
00:07And he said that there are many who believe that is the direction
00:13the team is heading in.
00:14Chad Tracy said, don't read too much into this setup for the rotation yet.
00:22Dot, dot, dot.
00:23He didn't say the dot, dot, dot part.
00:26I love Bradfow.
00:27You know that.
00:28But I don't care about many.
00:30What does Bradfow think?
00:31He believes, it seemed to me that he believes that Peyton Tolley
00:36will be your game one pitcher in the wild card series.
00:38What?
00:39Yeah.
00:39That is shocking.
00:41I don't think he is, though.
00:42I mean, honestly, if you're looking at it like a most likely a loss.
00:49But see, I don't look at it like that.
00:51Then maybe that's how they're looking at it.
00:54See, I go based on facts and what I know.
00:56Amen.
00:56And what I know from having Bresbaugh on, he said the most important game of the series
01:03is game one because he then, whatever his numbers were when you win game one.
01:09So that would be a ballsy move.
01:12It would be.
01:12But you would be conceding.
01:14And not that.
01:15No, you're not conceding it.
01:16No, not that you're not conceding.
01:17Geez, what a shot at Tolley.
01:19I know.
01:19But who's your best pitcher?
01:22I agree with you.
01:23I mean, I think it's Sonny Gray.
01:25Right.
01:25But if your best pitcher is Sonny Gray.
01:28Peyton Tolley has been lights out.
01:29Right.
01:30But Peyton Tolley has zero postseason experience.
01:33And if your best pitcher is Sonny Gray and you come on the show and you're the GM or whatever
01:40Bresbaugh's role is, and you tell us the important, and we say, hey, it's only a three.
01:45I asked the question, which was a great question.
01:47Shout out to Howard Stern and Ken for that.
01:49Oh, you're going to say shout out to me.
01:50Oh, no.
01:51But you do give me some good tips.
01:52No, no, no.
01:52Like you were saying.
01:53Oh, okay.
01:53But when he says, you know, it's game one because the percentage of teams that win the series
02:01of winning when they win game one.
02:03Yeah, it's 90 something percent.
02:04So you would be rolling out if Sonny Gray's your best pitcher, you'd be rolling him out.
02:10The question would be like, all right, do you have Peyton Tolley be your game two starter
02:16or do you put him in a high pressure situation where he has to be the game three starter and
02:21that's the win or go home game?
02:24I mean, a fellow savant texting in says, it's not shocking, big baseball guy.
02:32Take a look at his stats against the Yankees.
02:34I mean, it is, you can make the case when it comes to the righties in the lineup, I would
02:41assume.
02:42With all due respect to the listeners who may disagree with my point of view, I would simply
02:47say that if it's not shocking, why hasn't been, we've been doing this for how many weeks
02:52now getting ready?
02:52Like, I have not heard a single person call in and say Peyton Tolley over Sonny Gray in
02:58Suarez in game one.
02:59Have you?
02:59No.
03:00The only person that brought up Peyton Tolley.
03:02No, but I guess the argument would be, you would be, you would not be pitching Tolley
03:06tonight, right?
03:07You would be, you would be, you're pitching him this evening, I'm guessing, so that you
03:14have him fresh and available on Tuesday.
03:18Right.
03:18So.
03:19But you're keeping the window open, a jar one would, the window world window open, a
03:24jar.
03:25But you're not, I would not read, do you think he's going to go seven innings tonight?
03:29No.
03:30Right.
03:31So you're just getting him, you know, keeping him loose, keeping him fresh, keeping him
03:34ready.
03:34The only person that brought up possibly starting Peyton Tolley in game one was me last week.
03:40No, it's, it's actually Rob Bradford.
03:42No, no.
03:42But I said this, I said this a week and a half ago when we were having the discussion and
03:47I said the, the, the craziest thing, if you feel like.
03:50Oh, that is right.
03:51We did say that, but I said that you would put Suarez and when he said, if you feel that
03:54way, why not put Tolley?
03:55Yeah.
03:55Why not put Tolley in game one?
03:57And then you have your best two pitches.
03:59If you feel like.
04:00I think they may think that he is currently their best pitcher.
04:03Maybe.
04:04Oh, Peyton Tolley?
04:05Yes.
04:06All right.
04:06Yeah.
04:06Maybe, maybe they do.
04:08We don't know because they, they, they wouldn't tell us that.
04:10Ken just said he wants Bayo in game one still.
04:13Maybe it's Peyton Tolley one inning and then Brian Bayo in the second.
04:17It, it crocheted if you want a solid fourth inning out there.
04:21I, listen, I, I don't think Peyton Tolley, the moment would not be too big for him.
04:25I don't know.
04:26It would be, I mean, it would be must see TV, must listen, Will Fleming on the call.
04:31But I, I would be shocked if they did that.
04:34But knowing how Bresbot is like basically, you know, program like a T-1000 and it's about
04:40numbers, it's about this.
04:41It seems like that he obviously said game one being the most important, but it also seems
04:48like he's a big proponent of, in the world of baseball, is post-season resume and what
04:56a guy has done.
04:57Not that, like he knows he has to start totally at some point in time, but I think he probably
05:02wants to do his best to avoid the high pressure situation when you're talking about a guy
05:08who has no post-season playoff experience.
05:10Has Sonny Gray thrown an immaculate inning?
05:13Gray point.
05:15Yeah.
05:15I think what Greg said is the most important thing.
05:18Like, who cares about the, the experience?
05:20Look at how they've pitched against the Yankees this season.
05:22But I think when you compare, when you're comparing them, it's, I mean, totally makes sense.
05:28But I feel like baseball is different though.
05:30Like, I kind of like it, Curtis.
05:32I don't hate it.
05:33I wouldn't do it.
05:34Yeah.
05:34I just like the kind of guy that he is and the, like, you're right.
05:38It's the, the lights are not too bright.
05:40Yeah.
05:41But baseball is different though.
05:42Curtis, you're the baseball guy.
05:44Please, please educate these people in this room with me.
05:47The way that they look at post-season.
05:50I don't know that Alonzo guy really shut him down.
05:52No, no.
05:52But the way that they look at post-season, a lot has to do with, you know, post-season success
05:58and what you've done in the post-season, right?
06:01Isn't that the kind of the way that baseball minds think?
06:03Yes.
06:04Not that totally is.
06:05It's okay to be non-traditional though.
06:08It's, it's okay.
06:09Right.
06:09But generally.
06:10To go with your gut.
06:10But baseball.
06:11Maybe you completely throw them off and you throw Patrick Sandoval out there.
06:15Right.
06:16Yeah.
06:17But generally they don't do that.
06:18Put a couple of G's on the Yankees, start Sandoval.
06:20Why not start Monasterio?
06:22If you really want to throw him off.
06:24Oh, he did look good in that inning that he threw.
06:26But Greg, talk about throwing off.
06:27And you're right, Wiggy.
06:28I agree with you.
06:28I think you're the baseball Sandoval now.
06:30But the answer that Breslow gave us last week when I asked about the playoff rotation,
06:37he's like, I understand what you're saying, but you want to go with the guy that's been
06:40your best pitcher all season.
06:42It sounded like Sonny Gray.
06:43We all got that, right?
06:45We did.
06:45And Ken even on Saturday, who's, you know, the baseball guy on, you know, the dullest baseball
06:50man in America said that he believed that that answer definitely meant Sonny Gray.
06:56And I agree.
06:57Yeah.
06:57And that's the one sport where it, you know, and this is what I was saying, Courtney, like
07:03baseball is the one sport where you have guys, especially with pitches starting every fifth
07:08game.
07:08And like, you know, and then it's like, so even like Bresbach said, there's really no
07:12momentum, right?
07:13It's not about how well we're playing.
07:14It's about where we see a guy and what he could do, maybe the matchups, but also like
07:20what his resume is in the postseason before, because the level, the pressure situation is
07:26going to be different.
07:27Chad, Tracy, have any say in this?
07:29Maybe this is a Tracy twist.
07:34See that, but this is the thing about Tracy, why I think he's going to go from the interim
07:38manager to the full-time manager, because I like that totally Tracy twist.
07:44Yeah.
07:45Because it seems like Chad Tracy is more willing to on Tuesday.
07:50Yeah.
07:51On Tuesday.
07:52Here, what Bresbach has to say, unlike Alex Cora, they would have bumped heads on this
07:58decision.
07:59I mean, who has been, just take the last two weeks, who's been the better pitcher, Peyton
08:06Tolley or Sonny Gray?
08:07I would argue Peyton Tolley.
08:09Is the immaculate inning in those last two weeks?
08:11It is.
08:11But also, but Sonny Gray has acknowledged that he has struggled a little bit for an
08:17inning or a couple of batters in an inning.
08:19Right.
08:20Yeah, I would agree with you.
08:22It'd be, but then Bresbach would be going against what he is programmed to believe that
08:28game one is the most important and you would roll out your best pitcher all year long, which
08:35would be Sonny Gray, even though Tolley might be the last two weeks.
08:39But you are essentially saying that the host of baseball isn't boring, has no idea what
08:45he's talking about.
08:45No, no, no.
08:46I'm not saying he doesn't have any idea.
08:47That's what it sounds like to me.
08:48I'm just going off of what, what is Bresbach's actual title?
08:53President of Baseball Operations.
08:55Chief Baseball Officer.
08:57Oh, Chief.
08:57Chief.
08:58CBO, as we call it.
08:59I'm just going off what the CBO said.
09:01The CBO said the most important.
09:03Good morning.
09:04The most important game in a three-game series is game one.
09:09Rich, we need a poll.
09:10Do we want Tolley or Gray in game one?
09:15So where do we all stand?
09:16I go Gray.
09:17Hello.
09:17How are you doing?
09:18I'm going Tolley.
09:19I want Peyton Tolley.
09:20I'm going Tolley.
09:22Ooh, wow.
09:22Three over two.
09:23You guys win.
09:24Tolley it is.
09:25I feel like Sonny Gray has regressed a bit.
09:30But remember, there's no momentum in baseball.
09:33We found that out talking to the CBO.
09:35Is that his title?
09:36Yep.
09:36You got it.
09:38All right.
09:38Interesting.
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