00:00the browns won the trade the browns won the trade yes the browns won the trade the browns won the
00:09trade the browns won the trade the browns won the trade let's go well you know what
00:18i don't know how many wins we're gonna get during the regular season but uh
00:22you can chalk that one up to the cleveland browns we want to know what are the lemon laws in
00:27with the non-games the lemon laws in australia okay we're joking are we hey yeah why not
00:36uh that was amazing audio courtesy of westwood won by the way um i think i think miles garrett
00:43realized like yeah he was uh he's he's famous but he's not like famous famous famous he's he's not
00:53like when you're when you're when you're a really good player for the browns that's one thing
01:03but when you're on the supposed super team like has miles garrett ever been the butt of this many
01:10jokes in his life oh and he played for the browns oh my god no you know what the entire
01:16internet
01:16he's right last night about him no think about this he is he's 100 correct well when he flipped
01:23his car no no no nationally see this is the thing lime is right because before it was like well
01:33the
01:33browns miles garrett miles garrett's being held back by the browns browns are the browns are the
01:38browns are the browns are the browns browns browns and then there was like well miles gotta get miles
01:43miles out of cleveland gotta get miles off the browns and then last night it's like okay you're
01:48out of cleveland and you're on the super team and it was struggling and they made him such a focal
01:54point of the broadcast last night trent williams who's as old as the hills it's still great still
02:00great i'm not knocking it like it was just i i watched him and the get off looked pretty quick
02:09and then he said he wasn't 100 he's already talking about injuries and you know he barely
02:15he barely practiced the last month listen it's it's and i said it's as is no warranty you ain't no
02:23don't you come back to my service station you know when aaron donald didn't make the trip we
02:27talked about this yesterday and i'm like i'm kind of surprised miles is playing in this game
02:33interesting but you know he's miles he's a competitor like i've never accused him of not
02:38being a competitor and then yesterday he's a lot of people have got sure i i think that's just not
02:45not our show but i think that's just browns fans who were just mad when we lost a bunch and
02:49was adam
02:50the bull he ain't no browns fan bull was calling him non-competitive years ago but you know miles
02:57obviously was the best thing we had for a long time and i think that was just frustration right like
03:01oh where was miles today like there were games where you'd have there were these random games
03:07yeah and then last year he sets a sack record on a terrible team on a losing team and it's
03:11like
03:11well i thought he'd said can't really say that anymore you thought he'd say he'd have even more
03:15because uh like you're going to be playing with leads but he wasn't playing with a lead yesterday
03:18no they got their ass kicked yeah they did i mean that that champions pose on uh there was no
03:23reason
03:23to watch the second half of that game so champions pose for those who leave early but we'll talk
03:29about that coming up a little bit at 644 maybe a little bit um i found a lot of people
03:35excited
03:36when i woke up this morning i found a lot of people excited when i woke up in the middle
03:39of the night
03:41that he did he had no impact they got hammered and they had no impact and i you know i
03:49always you'll
03:50want to take the high road but you don't always have to take the high road and it's like okay
03:56he's not
03:57like you're free to root against him it's it's not a serious like i don't it's obviously not a
04:03serious injury like you're not rooting for serious injury boy we've been down that road too many times
04:07recently uh like you're not rooting for a serious injury here but it's like all right yeah you don't
04:13want him to do well you don't because if he does well that means they're going to be probably be
04:19doing
04:19well it's one game they got 16 to go which is something that you know miles has actually iterated
04:25before as a member of the cleveland browns um it sounded the post game was weird the whole thing
04:33was weird it was surreal at first to see him in a in a rams jersey but i saw so
04:39many people who were
04:40excited and i go yeah you be excited be a browns fan you're allowed to be excited about this i
04:45don't
04:45know how many victories you're going to get and so i think you can have a little last night was
04:49a
04:49victory i think to some people it kind of did i think to some people it kind of did like
04:52because i do
04:53think there's been some people you know what even myself you know i i certainly got to admit this
04:58a lot of us have done because he's not the typical type of like jared verse he's fish in a
05:06barrel
05:06okay can we call it what it is like as of right now we're still in a honeymoon phase with
05:10jared verse
05:11but like i i i listened to his five minutes of media availability yesterday there were people sending
05:17tweets about like what a leader this guy like he is the fish in a barrel barrel stereotypical
05:24defense dog leader those things you want miles is a dog miles is a tremendous player miles ain't
05:34any of them other things that jared verse brings yeah he's just the best browns player he's just
05:38probably ever seen in my lifetime he's probably the best browns player you ever see but he doesn't
05:42contribute all those other things and i think it's bothered people because most like the guys we
05:47talk to most guys we talk to on an everyday basis stop playing football in high school well high school
05:54all is all about team team team team emotions buy in hold the rope the whole thing take your end
06:02of the
06:02bargain hold up your end like it's all about that and so when they see that it's hard to rationalize
06:09it
06:09but he's so good and he plays for our team and he's special so we we do mental gymnastics myself
06:15included absolutely and then when he's gone all the things that you've thought of in the back of your
06:20head all the things that people have argued with you in the back that you remember in the back of
06:25your head they come out because he's on another team and your team has been the butt of the jokes
06:30over the last how many years and yet there will probably be plenty of jokes this year that have
06:34nothing to do with miles garrett but your team's been the butt of the jokes you've had this guy
06:39and now you don't have him anymore and it's like okay now i can finally be critical like there was
06:44a i think there was a criticism that that people wanted to hold back from he's still a marvelous
06:49player it is still only one game but you are on you're in a international game it's the only thing
06:55going it's this weird setting where i think some people and i i did get a lot of people going
07:00kenny i
07:01tuned in just to kind of see australia it didn't help that you know darry mensa was playing against
07:04florida a&m and did he did he play even in the second quarter i tuned out i didn't need
07:09to it
07:09was 21 nothing at the end of the first half first quarter and he was 14 to 15 for the
07:13game for three
07:14touchdowns i mean it's 49 nothing at the end of the first half so some people they might have been
07:19watching a little bit of miami then they tuned in like there was a curiosity there and he's they
07:23won 77 to 7 yes he is the biggest part of that curiosity miles not not the miami uh miles
07:29is the
07:30biggest part of that curiosity there and he didn't do anything last night no and i think there was a
07:33lot of
07:34fans who uh you know you're allowed to be kind of happy i think you're allowed to be that way
07:39of
07:39course you can okay we have their draft pick i'm just making sure we don't have to sit here and
07:43act
07:43like we need to take the high road on everything like we are allowed to root against people in in
07:48professional sports i don't need to sit there and talk down to everybody we spent nine years of his
07:53life like no we don't need to do that well we were monitoring you know we get a draft pick
07:57the
07:58situation all last year yes and that didn't go our way right so uh nobody's really expecting the
08:04rams to to fall flat on their face but that was a that was a great start for us in
08:10that draft pick
08:10certainly and hopefully this draft pick will help us this draft pick will help us get on track i don't
08:19i can't say back on track i mean a little bit but hopefully this will get us righted and so
08:24i have to
08:25root against him for the greater good of the football team i got nothing personal against
08:29him we got nothing personal against him at all but i got to root against him i because i don't
08:35want them to have a high pick i want everything i could possibly get after this year if we can
08:40get
08:40ourselves corrected here's the hard part was was miles and obviously it was symbolic of you know that
08:48that effort all together from that team yes was that because of the travel or was it because i was
08:55gonna bring that up later but we might as well bring it up now yeah like how can you i
08:58saw everybody
08:59making these grandiose statements about the travel and i laughed because i told you on the way in
09:05we had a super secret phone call and i laughed i said the pete schrager peter schrager had the whole
09:12thing about uh the rams sent 14 staffers to take this very trip and then they had one that was
09:21going
09:21to come back immediately and then the others were going to be there for two weeks like there was a
09:25whole scouting session on the travel portion of this and i'm like that seems like a total lie
09:31that seems like a total lie not i'm not saying peter schrager made it up no i'm like it seems
09:37like
09:37the rams would tell peter schrager they did this just to have fun with them but in the end they
09:41they
09:42were basically punting on this game to begin with well there's no way you can convince me theory there's
09:49no way you can convince me that they took this game that seriously and i said that yesterday this
09:55wasn't just a oh i saw the outcome of the game and now i'm changing my mind like no i
10:00i think we all
10:01had this big debate about the science of sleep when in the end weren't the rams just kind of
10:07messing with everybody yeah but like didn't take this week seriously they showed up as late as you
10:12could possibly show up for this game and the whole goal was hey let's not get any injuries
10:19that's a hell of a theory and i don't think it's wrong uh i found it the the part about
10:24the rams
10:25loss though that i found immensely satisfying if i can say it's it's twofold one i do think that there
10:31is a brand of holier than thou uh blogger that blogs about football that really doesn't spend time
10:38with people and it's it you know it's always bothered me because it is the ultimate team game
10:43it is about relationships it is about people and i don't think they have any like real relationships
10:50and it's everything that is outside the box is the new way to do things and there's an arrogance there
10:57to it and i think sean mcveigh is their messiah of arrogance i'm starting to sound like somebody else
11:03i don't like sounding like that but i i think he's their like thing of arrogance that they just love
11:08now i don't hate sean mcveigh even though it sounds like i do i just think that sean mcveigh
11:14has so many wild outside the box ideas with his football team and the reason i'm satisfied and
11:21happy that they lost and lost so badly was that it it dissuades teams from doing stupid things that
11:28they can get away with that the rams can get away with like sean mcveigh does things and other teams
11:34try it and it gets other guys fired for trying to do sean mcveigh things same thing with less need
11:38other teams try to do less need type of things and it gets guys fired or keeps you in keeps
11:44you in a job
11:45for seven years like we've seen um like that's what i don't like the other thing is that it
11:51happened against the 49ers who are famous for what when it comes to travel they spend a week in
11:56youngstown ohio when they play on the east eastern time when they're three hours away they spend a week
12:03in youngstown when they have back-to-backs they'll spend two weeks like we've seen in youngstown well
12:09though if they play in new york they'll fly to new york or they'll fly to youngstown spend the week
12:13fly to new york come back and then go to pittsburgh after something like that if they got two weeks
12:18on the east coast like they've done that before and so it didn't just happen against that team
12:22against a team it happened against the team that's famous for we prepare for the time that we have
12:28because of all this stuff that's around us you get what i'm saying i do yeah i probably lost no
12:34i get it
12:35but what i'm saying is i don't i i secretly wonder if the rams oh yeah put out all this
12:42stuff about all
12:43the studies they did on travel and this and in the back of their minds are like
12:48hey well if we get the win great but we're not really that focused on this win and so you're
12:54like
12:54oh did they did this poke a hole in all the rams thoughts and i'm like no no no no
13:00maybe this is
13:01exactly what the rams no possibly see that's where i know i lost you because i didn't say any of
13:05that
13:05part at all about poking the hole in the rams i said what it does is it stops other teams
13:10from doing stupid things because when the rams do it it's ended up proving out it's smart they're
13:15a different organization what i'm saying is was it stupid that's what i'm saying the rams whole
13:20thought could have been no that they're gonna come home and they are not gonna like to remember
13:25the thought was well the 49ers have gotten so acclimated to being in australia maybe the rams
13:31like we don't want that to happen so if we lose the game we lose the game but we're gonna
13:34come back
13:34and be a normal football week six are you gonna see a difference in right how this game affected each
13:39team this is what i'm pointing out that's why i don't think he's crazy everybody's trying to win
13:44the game you're not saying they didn't try to win the game i just don't think they cared if they
13:47lost
13:48yeah that's what yeah that's what you're pointing out i agree with you but kyle shanahan's never not
13:52gonna care about a game yeah he's gonna treat it like the super bowl yeah he's gonna try to win
13:56but
13:56if they didn't win i don't think they're acting like this is the end of the earth i think mcveigh
13:59is
14:00like you know it's it's won a 17 yes i do think that because i i think that we could
14:05be sitting
14:05there in the nfc championship game and aaron andrews is telling a story about how they basically
14:11used it as an experiment and lima ends up being right and does champions pose over everybody
14:16the thing that i don't like is that other teams try to do that and then they end up being
14:21foolish
14:21about it case in point what was 2019 when we went out to san francisco for monday night football and
14:28we
14:28went out less than 24 hours beforehand and we were getting reports of guys falling asleep on the bus
14:34now ended up being kind of a disinterested bad football team but it didn't help that you went
14:40out like the like the night before the game you flew in you know a three-hour time difference
14:47like that was ridiculous and that was a john dorsey thing as much as we like john dorsey
14:53that was a job that was a huge mistake by him huge mistake and it cost us dearly they played
15:00like garbage they looked like garbage the whole thing was garbage and they made fun of you the
15:06whole time during that game like the browns try things like that or other teams try things like
15:10the rams do they get made fun of the rams have built up enough currency where they can do that
15:16and they're fine with it yeah you can't kill them for it yeah you can't kill them for it because
15:19then
15:20it'll turn out like they'll still be good and they'll use that as an anecdote later on and if
15:24they're in the super bowl we're gonna laugh at the over coverage of what happened in australia
15:29exactly exactly that's we are on the same page it took a minute to get there but we are still
15:34on
15:34this we're we're on different paragraphs but we're on the same page there but i think that yeah anybody
15:39can be uh you want to be thrilled about it you want to be happy yeah be happy yeah heck
15:43yeah
15:43go ahead that way
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