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In this Duanju interview, director Kate He shares her journey from creating social media content for major luxury brands in Los Angeles to directing vertical dramas in China. She discusses what makes short dramas different from traditional film and TV, the importance of pacing and strong hooks, the growing influence of vertical storytelling, female perspectives and the female gaze, and the need for more original and complex stories. She also reflects on the future of vertical and horizontal entertainment and why both formats can ultimately coexist. Interview by WENWEN HAN.

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00:00Do you think female producers have some strengths or unique perspectives in short drama storytelling?
00:07Can you share a personal example?
00:09For me, I found that female producers are very good at catching some small changes of feeling.
00:17For example, when we produced Alpha King, we found audience, they like to watch more than just love.
00:24They want to watch a girl how to find her courage.
00:28So at that time, I discussed this with the director.
00:32And we tried to add more some close-up shots of the characters, something like facial expression and some hand
00:43movement in it.
00:44Using these emotional details to help shape the story.
00:49Also, we found adding this made 30% more people keep watching.
00:55So that is funny.
00:56Another example is when I found an actress is having a bad day or bad feeling, I may change a
01:06little bit of the shooting schedule or maybe shoot another scene first.
01:11Small changes like this can help people to do their best work.
01:16Also, female lead production made 23% more people keep watching.
01:23When you plan overseas shot dramas, how do you choose the super genres or themes? What factors do you consider?
01:30Actually, for us as a producer, we would prefer to respect the data and the audience.
01:37For example, when I found the top 10 popular novels on one of the U.S. Nobel websites was werewolves.
01:45Then we will choose the werewolves scenes.
01:47Add some popular elements and add some creativities.
01:50For example, my other short dramas.
01:53For example, my other short dramas, a billionaire, can place my bucket list.
01:56Add some elements.
01:58For example, a female with cancer.
02:01The love from the CEO of the family struggle, something like that.
02:06And this has got over 50 million views online from the TikTok and other websites.
02:12This is my way.
02:14And how do you localize?
02:15Because some of the scripts are from China.
02:17What kind of changes will you make when you localize those scripts?
02:22The first one is that the shooting set must be very Europe or U.S. style.
02:28Also, we will try to find some writers from the U.S. or other countries to help us to rewrite
02:36or maybe update the script.
02:39This is the most important one.
02:41We will find some crews from our production team.
02:45They have some experience to making a foreign film or foreign short drama.
02:51That's also the important one.
02:52To make the whole place look very Europe or U.S. or Japanese style.
02:59What I'm hearing is, first of all, having a good story that matches the data of the current trend.
03:10is sort of a first step.
03:12Second is localizing it with some elements, aesthetic elements from, if it's Japan, like you mentioned, the kimonos.
03:23Or if it's America, having an American style house, right?
03:27And then third, also matching the character so that the character in the story really looks like that character in
03:38the actor, right?
03:40That their personality and their style of acting really expresses the character so that the character is clearly defined, right?
03:53And then another thing is, after it's produced, how to promote cutting it into, not just cutting up little pieces
04:05of it, but taking some extra thought and really planning a clip which can quickly give the viewers an idea
04:16of the story arc, right?
04:18And this can help them decide, oh, I want to watch this.
04:23You're totally right. Yes, I mentioned it before.
04:26Also, because we try to shoot some drama in China, but we all use the foreigners actors.
04:34For example, we shoot the Alpha Kings in Xi'an at the beginning of this year.
04:41And it's incredible.
04:43It's quite hard for us to find an actress of suitable actors in China.
04:49So at that time, we try to invite the female lead and the male lead from LA and invite them
04:57to enjoy us and shoot in China.
05:00At that time, I confused.
05:02Can I find a good actress in China to maybe perform the actress or maybe perform another speaking role?
05:10So a part of the next meeting on the beginning to talk about this page is of less沒錯 in China.
05:10Basically, several meetings, more experts, will be afraid of BTS and millions over the weekend of games
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