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The programme primarily addresses Gen Z and Gen Alpha student protests, examining online backlash, abusive language, and the resignation of the education minister. Lieutenant Bamji discusses constitutional limits, apologises for aggressive online remarks, and warns against criminalising student language while cautioning against pulling the armed forces into political debates.
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00:01Hello and welcome. I'm Sonal Mayrothra Kapoor. This is 5LIVE. What do we have on the program
00:06today for you? Lots of nuances between what seems to be growing as a more online debate now ever
00:15since the student protests got over. Kids, curses, consequences. Where exactly is this taking us?
00:23The other story that we've got for you today is should profanity really be criminalized?
00:30So what we've seen in the past 24 to 48 hours at least is that a lot of students who
00:36made content
00:38online used sometimes not so good language and sometimes even outright abusive language
00:47against the government have now been labeled, called out and in some cases there are FIRs
00:57against them as well. So what exactly is happening over here and how does it reflect upon a generation
01:04which has really come on or come off its own during the course of this protest? We'll look at that.
01:12And then the generation which follows. We also look at Gen Alpha. For the past two days we've been
01:17bringing you stories of how Gen Alpha is actually rising in a way to the occasion and asking,
01:22going back to demand the basics in their classrooms as well. Today we've got another story for you and
01:28then, story number four is coming to us from Parliament. Where perhaps getting inspired by Gen Z,
01:36I'm not so sure about that but perhaps getting inspired, there is a politician who put out a full skit.
01:46What was the aim? What was the aim? What was done? And importantly why?
01:50Papu Yadav and what he did inside Parliament today is what we'll discuss. First up as always,
01:56let me take you through the headlines.
01:59The Centre is set to table the FCRA Amendment Bill 2026 in Lok Sabha on Monday now, despite the
02:06objections from its own Northeastern allies and church bodies. The Bill gives the Centre power to
02:11take over assets like hospitals, schools and hostels if an organisation FCRA licence is cancelled,
02:18surrendered or even expires. Independent MP Papu Yadav staged a symbolic protest in Parliament
02:25today dressed in saffron, enacting the alleged theft of Ram Temple donation. He was joined by Rahul
02:32Gandhi and other opposition MPs as well, posing as devotees. Papu Yadav then demanded discussion
02:37on the issue in Parliament. Meanwhile, the Delhi court has sentenced former Amadipati councillor
02:45Tahir Hussain and other convicts to life imprisonment for the 2020 murder of Intelligence Bureau
02:51staffer Ankit Sharma during the Delhi riots. The court said that the crime had shaken the society
02:56and Delhi police had sought death penalty.
03:01Hyderabad cyber crime police have registered an FIR against Meta head in India. This is Arun
03:08Srinivas and several social media users over AI generated morphed videos targeting Prime Minister
03:14Narendra Modi. The videos were allegedly circulated on Facebook and Instagram following the Kokrojanda
03:20party-led student protests at Delhi's Jantar Mantar. A 25-year-old woman from Kretan Noida has been
03:26booked now for using abusive language against Prime Minister Modi during a protest at Jantar Mantar
03:32on the 23rd of July. CJP spokesperson Saurab Das has now defended her, arguing that profanity
03:38alone does not amount to a criminal offence.
03:44A newly-wed teacher in Dehradun died by suicide after recording a 90-second video apologising
03:50to her parents. Her family has accused her husband and in-laws of dowry harassment and
03:55three people have been booked.
03:58Karnataka Chief Minister D.K. Sivkumar chaired a meeting on the Kaveri Water situation following
04:04CWMA orders. Meanwhile, the BJP State Chief, B-Y, was detained while protesting near the
04:13Krishna Raja Sagara Dam over the same.
04:19The Assam flood death toll has now risen to 80, with over 2 lakh people still affected.
04:25The state government has announced a six-month loan repayment moratorium for the flood-hit families
04:31while Congress MP Gaurav Kapoor has questioned the Centre over Disaster Assistance.
04:36Nearly two decades after her exile, Bangladeshi author Daslema Nasreen has set foot in West
04:42Bengal's Kolkata, marking her first visit to the city since she was forced to leave in November of
04:472007. In fact, she is scheduled to attend a literary event at Rabindr Sadan to mark the
04:54release of her autobiography. Nasreen's previous appeals to return were allegedly denied, remember,
05:00and her long-awaited return has finally materialised under the newly formed BJP government in the state.
05:07Thousands of migrants crossed into Spain's North African enclave of Stua from Morocco,
05:15prompting Spain to deploy troops as well. At least 18 people have died,
05:19with authorities now estimating nearly 49,000 migrants crossed into the enclave.
05:32All right, news just coming in. The first reaction from Tahir Hussain after he was given the life
05:38sentence by the High Court. He has said that we'll get justice from High Court now. Tahir Hussain says it
05:45was a fixed match here. He says he was convicted in IB officer Ankit Sharma's murder case.
05:52He plans to take his fight forward to a higher court now.
05:59Let's listen in to what it's coming.
06:02?
06:03?
06:04?
06:04?
06:05?
06:06?
06:06?
06:06?
06:06?
06:31Srishti, Tahir seems very clear that he is taking it forward to a high court now.
06:37Well, Sonal, as we know, a trial court in Delhi which had earlier convicted Tahir Hussain and four others for
06:43the murder of IV officer Ankit Sharma during the Delhi riots has today sentenced him and the others to life
06:50imprisonment.
06:50Now, this is despite Delhi police seeking death penalty for all the convicts in this particular case.
06:56The court has found it fit to sentence them to life imprisonment instead.
07:00Now, Tahir Hussain, after he walked out of the court, after he heard the sentence that has been imposed on
07:07him, he doesn't think justice has been done.
07:09According to him, he will be approaching the higher court and he says that if he can expect justice, it
07:15is only from the high court.
07:16He has also called this particular match fix, the phrase that was used by Tahir Hussain himself while leaving from
07:25Delhi's Karpun Duma court after he was sentenced to life imprisonment today.
07:29Now, the court has, however, very clearly said that the manner in which the crime was committed was of utmost
07:34brutality done solely on the ground of religion.
07:38Ankit Sharma's body was dragged like that of an animal and the barbarity that was committed by the accused, the
07:44convicts in this case, is nauseating and sickening.
07:47So, quite serious remarks that have come in from the court and Tahir Hussain has made it clear that he
07:52would be going to the high court challenging this and it will be very important to see how the high
07:56court responds to this considering the remarks and observations from the trial court in this case are extremely serious.
08:02Back to you.
08:03All right.
08:03Thanks, Rishri, for joining us with the very least on what happened at the Karkar Duma court in Delhi today.
08:12Now, that is how many sitting MPs and MLAs across the country have hate speech cases declared against them in
08:20their own election affidavits.
08:21This is according to a new analysis by the Association of Democratic Reforms or the ADR and the National Election
08:27Watch.
08:28The Bharatiya Janta Party accounts to close to 40% of those lists.
08:32Congress, Amati Party, DMK make up most of the rest.
08:36Now, these are not allegations pulled from social media screenshots, remember.
08:40These are cases that lawmakers themselves listed while filling the contest elections.
08:46Now, sit with that number for a moment against what has been happening in the past one week.
08:53A 25-year-old girl, Ruchika Singh, used abusive language against a Prime Minister during the protest at Jantar Mantra
09:01on the 23rd of July.
09:02And within six days, she now has a zero FIR registered against her, registered under sections of the Bharatiya Naya
09:10Sahita covering public mischief and breach of peace.
09:14Her case has already moved from police station in Noida to Parliament Street in Delhi.
09:19And this is the speed of a system when the person speaking has no office, no immunity, no party machinery
09:25behind them.
09:26Now, compare that to how the system really treats its own.
09:31Most of the 107 cases that I told you about in the beginning in the ADR list have been sitting
09:35for years, filed alongside nomination papers, rarely resulting in an arrest, let alone a conviction there.
09:41And these are the one category of abusive language that the law effectively cannot touch at all.
09:48Let me take you back to 2023. BJP MP Ramesh Viduri there stood on the floor of the Lok Sabha
09:53and directed communal slurs at the BSP MP Dhanish Ali.
09:57It was wildly, you know, talked about, even condemned as well.
10:03It made headlines for days and it went nowhere near a police station. Why?
10:07Because it was referred to a privileged committee, an internal parliamentary body, because language spoken inside the House, remember, falls
10:13under parliamentary privilege.
10:14Which, a sitting MP can say something far cruder than what got a young girl booked in six days.
10:23And the law simply looks the other way, but that's a different story, right?
10:27This is, in fact, not just a story of Delhi alone.
10:31Let me give you a perspective and bring in Tamil Nadu now.
10:34The same pattern is playing out inside the state legislations.
10:37For example, DMK MLA, G.V. Manakande, was arrested this week for speech against Chief Minister Vijay.
10:44And he's the second DMK legislator picked up within weeks after former Minister Anita Radhakrishnan was arrested as well on
10:52the 3rd of July for similar remarks.
10:55DMK has called both arrests political vendetta.
10:58Now, whether or not that framing is fair, it shows that arrest of abusive language against leader is not a
11:04tool being used across party lines, not a one-sided blackdown as well.
11:09Now, put the two threads together and the real question is not whether abusive language should have consequences.
11:16Threats and provocative action are not protected.
11:20Any, you know, nobody is really talking about how it should, that it should be okay.
11:28Threats, provocation are not protected, remember, by any reason.
11:32Idea of free speech or, you know, nobody seriously arguing that they should be.
11:38But the question is, why the consequence lands so unevenly?
11:41A citizen with no office, no security cover, gets an FIR within days.
11:45A sitting lawmaker gets years of unresolved cases or, in Parliament's case, a form of legal immunity by design.
11:54Why have I told you this entire context over here?
11:56Because maybe, I think, maybe the story that is going and something for us to think about is that
12:01the real question is not whether profanity is a problem or whether we have quietly started criminalising who the profanity
12:08is used against.
12:09The same word, aimed at Prime Minister, gets an FIR in six days, but aimed at a private citizen, barely
12:16gets a first information report filed at all.
12:18So perhaps, that is not a debate, or perhaps what is unfolding online is not a debate about language anymore,
12:25but maybe, just maybe about who the language is being used against.
12:29Something for all of us to really think about.
12:32Having understood that, let me cut across to another woman, a protester, who made a reel online.
12:41Her words might not have been abusive, but it reflected the way the reel was shot,
12:48and what she said reflected poorly on the rapid action force, who she shot the entire reel in front of.
12:56Shraddha Singh, ever since, has taken down her video, apologised as well, but she has another story to tell.
13:04I spoke with her a little while ago. Listen in.
13:08Joining me next is somebody who has been on the receding end of a lot of strolling off late.
13:17It started with her putting out a video, which came out as a mockery of sorts, on DCRPF, on RAF
13:28as well.
13:29So, Shraddha, let me start by saying this to you.
13:32You made a video. It turned out to be in real bad taste.
13:36You got heavily trolled for it as well.
13:40You took it down then, put out an apology.
13:44Tell me, what happened after that?
13:47When I uploaded a video, I uploaded a video for people.
13:51I uploaded a video for those people, who told me respectfully, told me that you have done wrong things.
13:59I thought, if I deleted the video, I had been doing one hour, but when I uploaded a video,
14:05I thought that now people will understand me that there is a wrong answer to me.
14:10But, people just took it and said that the victim is playing the card.
14:14I was telling you, I have been doing one hour, and then after that, you have put the ID.
14:17And I posted so much trashy.
14:19I am giving them, people are giving me rape threats, giving me the punishment of love.
14:24People are watching my house, people are watching my house, my house is on my hands, and I'm
14:28getting your account suspended.
14:29YouTube, YouTube, I mean totally my people are now playing a victim card so you can remove it from here.
14:37Something bad will happen and we will get peace. That's how it happened in people's lives.
14:44And their grievance was that you used the abhadr bhaasha and did you get the abhadr bhaasha?
14:53Yes ma'am. First of all, I didn't use that abhadr bhaasha.
14:58I was also an NCC student, so I respect everyone for the army, police, RAF.
15:06And that same day I created a video where I told the police, showed what they did.
15:15They also showed good things. But people ignored me and targeted me.
15:21I was just wearing red and blue.
15:29Then my mind made a video pop-up.
15:31I was just wearing red, red, harping and whatever it was.
15:35For the white, for the white, for the toilet.
15:38So people changed it completely.
15:42And after then, a lot of meme pages started writing it.
15:45And I started writing it that he shot the army.
15:49And this was the same pattern was the same.
15:51And all of the meme pages repeated it all.
15:55So do you think it was a troll army in your question?
15:59It was not organic?
16:02I think that people are angry for the army, and they feel that I have thrown away from the army.
16:10But the first thing, I did not do this. I only did a video on RAF.
16:15The second thing is that people, because of me,
16:24I started to give messages from there. They gave so many messages,
16:29so I was afraid to tell people.
16:33And they reached my family to my mother's ID.
16:37They were telling me, they were telling me, they were telling me, they were telling me, they were telling me,
16:40they were telling me.
16:43Shraddha, how many years are you?
16:45Tell me, what are you doing in life?
16:50I am 23 years old, and I am a yoga instructor.
16:54And I also have an Instagram influencer.
16:57I have chosen a live content that I want to go to that.
17:02Yes.
17:04So, you are regretting that you have made such a video.
17:08But what do you think, when the sentiments are very high,
17:13I think that people are going to be doing a lot of work,
17:13police cases, FIRs, channels, and some other Twitter handles,
17:20people, especially the names of the girls,
17:23they are showing their names brandish,
17:24that they have called Galdi Dei Pradhan Mantri,
17:26or they have said something to the government,
17:29they are targeting them.
17:30What do you think about that?
17:32What should be legal action?
17:35I think that it should be legal action.
17:38But it should be a lot of work.
17:42They have done a lot of mistakes,
17:44and they are also asking them to forgive.
17:46So I think that it should be a chance to give a chance.
17:49It is a chance to be a man.
17:50It is a chance to be a man.
17:50And we are not so big,
17:52we are not so much of a young man.
17:54We have made a video.
17:56We have made a video.
17:58So we should give one chance.
18:00And I have also seen that,
18:01especially the girls are targeting a lot more.
18:05And because of those people,
18:08what they have said,
18:10they are targeting them more.
18:14What is the whole episode in your life?
18:18I am sure you will not forget a lot of time.
18:21But if you can take a lesson in this whole,
18:27what is the realization that you want to share with your other Gen Z
18:31protesters,
18:32people and followers?
18:36I think that whatever we need to do,
18:41we need to understand a lot of things.
18:43Because today,
18:44there is no doubt that
18:45they can take a place in which place,
18:48and who can choose from.
18:51So I thought that
18:53we need to understand a lot of things.
18:56And after that,
18:58it depends on the people,
19:00if they take it from the right way,
19:02or if they take it from the wrong way.
19:04they take it from the wrong way.
19:06Yes.
19:07I have to say that
19:10if we have hate comments,
19:12we see that
19:14I have been very depressed
19:17for three days,
19:18and I am not leaving out of the house,
19:20because of the fear.
19:22So,
19:23I also want to say this,
19:24that people should be able to keep themselves
19:26as much as possible.
19:28Anything will happen,
19:29but you don't have to demotivate yourself.
19:31and you don't have to kill yourself.
19:38I'm telling you,
19:38if you want to do an appeal,
19:41what is the appeal?
19:47What is the appeal?
20:01and I have to say,
20:03if someone can speak for example,
20:03one time,
20:03she says that
20:04people are being asked to forgive themselves.
20:06on the first time,
20:06something happened,
20:07and when the police hit the police, after that, the things changed a little.
20:14So, I would like to appeal this.
20:18If you understand someone, please respect the police,
20:23so that they understand that it is wrong.
20:28Don't say that they will give threats to the girls,
20:33or they will kill you with your soul,
20:35or you will get out of the way.
20:37So, you should not go so much.
20:39I think it is,
20:42as far as the people who have fallen,
20:44we cannot fall.
20:45We should be able to understand it.
20:48So, I would like to appeal to Pradhan Muntri Ji,
20:51that he would talk to people and understand these things.
20:56Pradhan Muntri Ji, we will book your appeal.
21:00Do you want to say something about R.A.F.
21:02who have made a video on R.A.F.?
21:05I am R.A.F.
21:06who are watching my videos,
21:10especially for them,
21:11I want to say,
21:12I am so sorry,
21:13I have no intention for you,
21:15that I will make such a video for you.
21:17Or, I will try to troll you to people.
21:21I made a video wrong,
21:24which I have also kept myself with you.
21:27I have no intention for you.
21:29But it is a very big mistake.
21:32We should not do that.
21:33We should respect everyone.
21:35So, I am so sorry.
21:36I hope you will forgive me,
21:38because this was my first and last mistake.
21:42Alright, Pradhan.
21:43Thank you so much for joining us.
21:45You have to believe your mistakes.
21:47People will forgive you.
21:48You will forgive me.
21:48And you hope that people will forgive you.
21:53You will forgive me.
21:54You will forgive me.
21:54You will forgive others.
21:55So, we hope this appeal reaches the Prime Minister.
21:58And let's see where this goes.
21:59Thanks so much.
22:01Alright, so that is one side of the debate,
22:03where Gen Z is saying that we didn't realize,
22:05you know, in the moment we end up doing things
22:09that we later regret.
22:11But is that what should lead to FIRs?
22:13Also the massive amount of trolling that they are facing online.
22:15That's a debate that is also unfolding online.
22:19But like you hear people like Shraddha,
22:22there are also equally, you know, amount of Gen Z online
22:25who are saying that the language should have a Lakshman Rekha as well.
22:30To get that perspective, I spoke with a gentleman.
22:33He used to be with the army earlier on.
22:35And now, he says, he's in a very peculiar state
22:39because he says, I'm happy with the resignation.
22:41I went for the student protest as well.
22:44But I do not conform with the language being used now.
22:50Let me welcome now on the program, Lefton Vamji.
22:54He has gone viral online because he's a very interesting profile.
23:02He's somebody who served in the army briefly
23:05and in the entire course of the protest,
23:08came out to speak up for the students.
23:10But something changed.
23:13Perhaps the language used on ground
23:15that he has now come out with another video.
23:19This one he calls a rant
23:21and he says that this should not be how young people protest.
23:26Why don't you start by explaining to me
23:28what happened minutes before that rant that got you to make that video?
23:33I was being invited to a school to talk on Kargil Vijay Divas
23:38and distribute awards to the students.
23:41And during the same time when this was happening,
23:45I also was going through social media
23:47and I see the same people who fought in that war,
23:51who won gallantry awards,
23:52even people who have lost their lives,
23:54such people being abused online by whatsoever elements.
23:58It may be pro-government, anti-government.
24:00That is not the point.
24:01But where do you draw the line where
24:04if the Gen Z assumes,
24:05if the youngsters of the country assume that freedom is free,
24:09let me clarify that it was not free.
24:11It was never free.
24:11It was given by sweat, by blood,
24:14by people who have sacrificed great amounts for the country.
24:17And that is the freedom we all enjoy.
24:19And we also need to respect the people who have given us that freedom
24:23and draw the line to political debates
24:27or debate of student versus government
24:30or whatever is happening within the democracy
24:34and within constitutional limits, we all welcome it.
24:36But going personal against a person who is taking a stand for the students
24:41is where I got irritated
24:43and I spoke that video on camera just without any plan.
24:48I just took a camera and spoke and it went viral.
24:52Okay.
24:53So what you are saying is that you are with the students,
24:56you are with the protesters,
24:58you are happy with the resignation of the education minister,
25:00but you do not approve of the language which has been used online.
25:05Is that correct?
25:05True.
25:07Language is a result of public frustration,
25:09is a result of whatever angst they have,
25:12but at some point they have to realize that it should not cross that line.
25:16I also understand the students' pain
25:19because I have been a student myself all these years.
25:21I have given all sorts of competitive exams, cleared most of them,
25:25but it does not mean that the system is at fault every time a lapse happens.
25:30There are unfortunate things that happen.
25:34There are wrongdoings which we need to correct, but abusing someone or spreading hatred
25:39or using the issue for political agenda by the left or the right is where the students are also being
25:47harmed
25:47and the armed forces are also being wrongly brought into the debate, which is what I am against.
25:53Yeah.
25:54Let me ask you this, Leptin Bamji, that, you know, the vocabulary of the youth is changing in the country.
26:01It changes every generation, frankly.
26:03Gen Z is perhaps the first generation that got online and got into the limelight with nobody to really pave
26:10the way for them,
26:10nobody to tell them how it works.
26:12They are just discovering it as they go along as well.
26:15Would you say that the language that they use online should be different from what they do offline?
26:23Or are you saying that the whole language is under question?
26:28See, if you are within your friend circle, then you abusing amongst each other is your personal affair,
26:35and the government or any other body, you or me, are not involved in their lives.
26:39But when someone is doing it online, when that material can be shared by everyone,
26:44can be seen by the people you are actually abusing or targeting,
26:47then it also impacts the mental health of the person viewing it.
26:51It does not matter whether you are agreeing with the person or not,
26:54but putting your point respectfully and also asking for dialogue is what I found missing,
27:00where the extreme left and the extreme right both are coming up with their own agendas,
27:06and they have their ideologies very hardly ingrained into their mind,
27:10which somewhere does not appease me because when you are extremely strong on one side,
27:17you are not willing to listen to the other person's point of view,
27:20and whatever logical argument they come with, you already have a bias in your head.
27:24So in all this, the students who were genuinely protesting were at huge loss
27:29because the protest was hijacked by people who were not supposed to be involved,
27:33and different things came in.
27:36A religious agenda was pushed, an armed forces agenda was pushed,
27:41some extreme elements who came, people who wanted to help their political careers
27:46coming and using the limelight, all that somehow derailed the issue,
27:50and the students and the armed forces community towards the end were at loss.
27:57But you did see what happened on ground, the use of force against students,
28:04what are your thoughts on that?
28:06See, again, violence or use of force should be the last resort,
28:10when the government has overgone all the available options,
28:14that is peaceful dialogue, talking to the students, replying online,
28:19or at least giving out a statement by the bureaucracy or by the government representatives
28:23that they stand by the peaceful protesters and they want to support the students.
28:27I feel could have been done before the protest got derailed.
28:33The first few days at Jantar Mantar while I was following the protest was largely peaceful.
28:37And it was, although we have questions about the leader, about the entire movement,
28:42about how politically motivated the people involved are,
28:46all that aside, it was still a genuine issue.
28:48It was students' anger that was coming out in different ways.
28:53Had the government taken charge earlier during the protest and come up with dialogue from their side,
29:00or at least give some strength to the students by giving out a responsible statement,
29:06this entire thing, the opposition wouldn't have got the opportunity to use the social media narrative
29:12and influence Gen Z into anti-government agenda, shouldn't have happened.
29:18I think the government could have drawn the line at some point,
29:21and the opposition, being opposition, could not have been more irresponsible
29:26by using the student angst for questioning the government in the wrong fora.
29:31They have the parliament to question, they have their own platforms to question, have dialogue,
29:36but using the stage, using Jantar Mantar as a means of questioning the government
29:41where the entire agenda was different is very unfortunate.
29:46You seem very convinced with the fact that it was the opposition who got into the way.
29:50Let me ask you this, because you talk about drawing the line.
29:53Where does one draw the language line according to you?
29:57In your own video, you say bloody hell.
30:01In your own video, you go on to use words which perhaps the generation before you would not have approved
30:08of.
30:09Which goes back to the point of the vocabulary of Gen Z.
30:13Good or bad, we don't know, but just the way they speak.
30:18Do you reflect upon that sometimes, and where does one draw that language line?
30:24See, I also am a soldier and I am an emotional person.
30:27I am a Gen Z myself, so at some point throughout this entire incident,
30:31even I have learnt how some statements may be not approved by people of other generations,
30:37people who do not follow your narratives online.
30:42But having said that, yeah, use of bloody was probably overboard from my side as well, and I accept that.
30:51Also, extremely abusive language going personally against someone is not at all justified.
30:58And I will explain my statement first, and then talk about the Gen Z's at large.
31:04That came out of extreme anger, extreme frustration of putting in the armed forces in between all the debates,
31:11and not having the responsibility to differentiate between internal security forces and military forces.
31:17Also, the same Gen Z who we are trying to support, we as in a few of us veterans, I
31:24am not representing the forces at large here,
31:26people who actually supported the students were also being abused because apparently they were speaking against the government
31:32and using their rank and popularity to whatever their agenda was.
31:38That is not justified. And my statement came out of anger.
31:43And during that time, I did not think that it would go that viral and would have implications on the
31:48youngsters.
31:49And being responsible, I hereby apologize for using that word.
31:53Hell.
31:53Sorry?
31:55You regret using the word bloody hell even in your statement while criticizing others of using bad language?
32:01Yeah, I do not regret it. During that time, it was out of passion and out of aggression.
32:08And I would be more careful while putting out videos from now on because now the following has come to
32:13a significant level.
32:14I cannot use such words in the future.
32:16Okay, help me understand this.
32:18There is now a thriving debate about FIRs being registered and criminal action being taken against students whose language was
32:25not so-called parliamentary.
32:28The argument on the other side then is that there are so many politicians who themselves have cases of hate
32:36speech, etc. against them.
32:37So, are we looking too much into this? And what is your personal opinion of taking criminal action for using
32:45bad language?
32:48We need to understand the context from where bad language comes.
32:51If a student is so frustrated with the system that they have lost trust, they have lost all hope from
32:58the government, from any authorities involved, even from security forces at times,
33:03there may be a time where they go out of their way and give out abuses or use some bad
33:10language in public fora where they are being recorded or anything can be shared online these days.
33:15I think criminal action against an innocent student who brings out some abusive language is going a little overboard.
33:24But at the same time, abusive language or any such demeaning behavior, online or offline, cannot be justified.
33:32And legal action should be taken, should be initiated.
33:35I am not saying people should be punished for raising their voice.
33:39But at some point, they also need to be regulated.
33:42Authorities need to come in.
33:43Action should be taken, not criminal action.
33:46Yeah.
33:47Depending on the severity and the impact of the person speaking, then action should be taken accordingly.
33:54Not criminal action, I would say, because it is still not a crime to abuse someone.
33:59Politicians do it at times, even responsible authorities do it at times, although it is not expected out of them.
34:05Innocent students, if they have gone on record saying something, I think the government is kind enough to be a
34:13little kind towards them or be compassionate towards them by taking action, but not criminal or punitive action.
34:21So what action are you talking about then?
34:25Honestly, it depends on case to case basis.
34:27I have not seen specific videos on which people what abuses.
34:31So there will be cases filed against them, I am sure.
34:34But it should not go to an extent where they are put under extreme legal scrutiny and their accounts are
34:40restricted or their voices restricted to such an extent that they do not feel confident at all speaking the next
34:45time.
34:45That extent should not come in.
34:48But yes, they should also be held accountable for their voice when they are asking for accountability from the government.
34:53They should also be accountable for whatever words they use or actions they signify.
34:59So, yeah, that is where I draw the line.
35:01All right.
35:02Interesting space over there.
35:04Hold them accountable for their action, but do not hold Gen Z criminal on criminal counts if it comes to
35:12the use of their language.
35:14True.
35:14Thanks so much for joining us with your perspective on the story.
35:18You are welcome.
35:21And the debate clearly on the language is not over.
35:23India Today's Rashi Sardisai spoke with the CJP founder Abhishek Dipke, who assured that he will reach out and help
35:31all those people who are facing FIR.
35:33This is Abhijee Dipke.
35:37You know, I want to ask you, though, one of the conditions for withdrawing the protest was the fact that
35:43you wanted all FIRs withdrawn against all students.
35:47Yet, even yesterday, zero FIRs have been filed against those who made abusive remarks.
35:53A girl called Ruchika Singh made abusive remarks from Ghaziabad.
35:56Zero FIR against her.
35:57There are still FIRs that have not been withdrawn in different states.
36:00There are protestors who are still being called in by the police, detained, questioned.
36:04I mean, in that sense, who is going to speak up from them?
36:08You have now claimed victory because Dharmendra Pradhan has resigned.
36:12But what happens to all those students?
36:14Who is going to stand up for them?
36:19Sir, we are standing up for them.
36:21Our team is in constantly touch with all the students.
36:24And because you know that we are very like a small team, but we are trying our best to reach
36:28out to all the students.
36:29And through your channel, I want to tell them all that we are going to be there for you.
36:33And whatever legal help is going to be needed, the CJP will provide all legal help.
36:39For that, we are also consulting with Mr. Kapil Sibbal, who has said that he will be providing his legal
36:47help.
36:47And we are grateful to him.
36:49But I want to assure all the students that, no, you won't be left alone.
36:54We are going to be there for you.
36:55And we are already in touch with them.
36:57Ratna, Saurav are constantly in touch and constantly trying to get back all the FIRs.
37:02And it's in the best interest of the government to take back all the FIRs that they have filed against
37:07the students who were peacefully protesting.
37:10Because if the government is going to harass the students who were protesting peacefully,
37:15then the government doing a big mistake because these people will come out on the streets.
37:19We will come out on the streets again if they harass the students.
37:24All right, protests by Gen Z might be over, but those by Gen Alpha are only picking up.
37:30For the third straight day, Gen Alpha students have now taken to the streets across India, demanding what they say
37:36is their basic right to education, a functioning education system.
37:40Now, on the 29th of July, we showed you protests from UP, from Rajasthan, where students protested over a shortage
37:46of teachers.
37:46Yesterday, we saw agitation in Karnataka, with students highlighting gaps in school infrastructure and staffing.
37:53And now the movement has raised Rajasthan's achmer, where girls' students locked their school and blocked the highway over years
38:01of vacant teaching posts.
38:03Now, in Maharashtra, a class 10th student, actually not just one, but a bunch of them,
38:10had begun an indefinite sit-in protest outside the Zilla Parishat office, demanding regular teachers after four years of vacancies.
38:20different states, different students, one common message.
38:26Gen Alpha is saying the quality of education cannot wait.
38:29And if protest is the only language the authorities understand, they've got it for them.
38:49From Rajasthan to Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Karnataka and now Maharashtra, we've been bringing you story after story of Gen Alpha
38:58refusing to stay silent.
39:00They're not demanding easier exams.
39:03They're not asking for higher marks.
39:05They're demanding something far more fundamental.
39:09Teachers, classrooms and the right to quality education.
39:14In Rajasthan, Sajmer, girls' students locked their government girls' senior secondary school before blocking the Jaipur-Bhilwara highway.
39:22They said the school has been without mathematics and Sanskrit teachers for years.
39:51The frustration is echoing elsewhere too.
39:54In Maharashtra's Dharashib district where class 10 students of a Zilla Parishat secondary school have begun an indefinite sit-in.
40:02Their demand is simple.
40:04Appoint regular secondary school teachers and fill staff vacancies that they say have remained vacant for four years.
40:14Different states, different schools.
40:17But one common message from India's youngest generation.
40:20They say the fight is no longer just for better education.
40:25It's for access to education itself.
40:39And let's move across to what's been happening in parliament now.
40:42The house saw little business but plenty of political theatre as opposition pressed for Amit Shah's apology over the pellet
40:49Gun Rao.
40:49The protest soon spilled even outside parliament.
40:52MP Papu Yadav dressed as a priest to pocket the cash saying that theft is in our blood.
41:00Those were his words.
41:01The skit was complete with props, satire and now possible action as well as what we are hearing.
41:07Don't believe it?
41:08Yes, that's the scene right outside parliament.
41:11See it in detail.
41:19A house that barely functioned.
41:22At parliament still stopped up high voltage political drama with never ending sloganeering.
41:28The opposition renewed its demand for Amit Shah's apology over the pellet gun controversy.
41:35Massive ruckus ensued.
41:36Result?
41:38Proceedings in both houses were adjourned within minutes.
41:48Then the politics moved outside.
41:52Independent MP Papu Yadav staged a satirical skit dressed as a saffron-clad priest.
42:01A Samajwadi party MP offered a Ram temple donation only for Papu dressed as the priest to pocket the cash
42:09saying theft is in our blood.
42:17The target?
42:18The Ram temple donation scam.
42:20Then came Rahul Gandhi.
42:22He made a symbolic donation.
42:25Only Papu Yadav to grab the donation box and walk away drawing laughter from opposition MPs.
42:34The稱 of Paku Yadav and Prisman.
42:35The government of Raul Mahat, above all these parties will have served with the government.
42:41The government of Raul Mahat, above all those parties, whatever the authorities will not run away from the government.
43:04But the act may prove costly.
43:07Dilok Sabah's Secretariat has reportedly taken a serious note.
43:10Speaker Om Bidla has objected with sources saying stricter rules could now be enforced against protests at Makar Dwar.
43:18From adjournments inside to a political theatre playing out outside.
43:23Parliament packed plenty of antics into a very short, unproductive day.
43:30Bureau Report, India Today.
43:35Let's move our focus and shift our focus really to one place that really deserves it all at the moment
43:41on the unfolding situation in Assam.
43:43As Assam battles devastating floods, social media is flooded with donation appeals.
43:47But can you really trust them?
43:50An India Today OSIN investigation puts Instagram fundraisers under the scanner and uncovers alarming red flags that every donor needs
43:58to know before sending money.
43:59Take a look.
44:11Assam is drowning.
44:16As lax battle, one of the worst floods in years, another flood is raising alarm.
44:24A flood of suspicious online donation appeals.
44:29An India Today OSINT investigation has now uncovered what could be a massive credibility crisis behind Instagram flood fundraisers.
44:3940 Instagram accounts were put under the scanner.
44:43The question was simple.
44:45Can you trust them with your money?
44:47The answer is alarming.
44:5035 out of 40 triggered every major red flag.
44:54The accounts were checked on three basic parameters.
44:58Who are they?
44:59Can they be verified?
45:01And where is your money really going?
45:04Most failed all three.
45:0838 accounts were created only this month.
45:12Many had barely 20 to 30 followers.
45:15Yet some reels mysteriously clocked hundreds of views.
45:2039 asked people to transfer donations to personal UPI IDs, not registered charities or recognised relief organisations.
45:29And 36 accounts either had no working contact number or could not be reached at all.
45:37The investigation also exposed fake relief claims.
45:41One account passed off a Jantar Mantar food distribution video as a Sam flood relief.
45:47A reverse video search revealed the truth.
45:50Others reposted old or stolen videos to appear genuine.
45:55The floods are real.
45:58The need is real.
46:00But every appeal may not be.
46:03Before you donate, verify the source.
46:07Check the credentials.
46:09Let your donation reach flood victims, not fraudsters.
46:16With OSINT inputs, Bureau Report, India Today.
46:36Is it really worth your money?
46:40This is our part 3 of the series.
46:42We are comparing oils in this video.
46:44We have talked about Dr. Prachi Jain.
46:47She is the HOD of Nutrition and Dietetics at MAC Superspeciality in Vaishali.
46:52So, on paper, these are both world class sources of MUFA.
46:57If you don't know MUFA, if you don't know about it,
46:58then go to the previous video and educate yourself.
47:01So, you can't make any labeling.
47:03But back to these oils.
47:05Both are world class sources of MUFA.
47:07But both of the heat and temperature are very different.
47:12So, let's talk about their utility and smoke.
47:14Let's talk about their utility.
47:16Your smoke point.
47:17Extra virgin olive oil, this is a very fragile oil.
47:21I mean, if you take it up to 190 degrees Celsius,
47:24then it will break down.
47:26As much as it is good in the air,
47:28it will all be in the air.
47:31Avocado oil, the smoke point is better.
47:34270 degrees Celsius, which makes it heat tolerant.
47:37Now, let's talk about micronutrients.
47:38This is very important.
47:40In micronutrients, EVO,
47:42I mean, extra virgin olive oil dominates on polyphenols.
47:47It means that it is a very powerful plant-based antioxidant,
47:51which in your cardiovascular system,
47:53the plaque built up,
47:54which helps to clear it in your body.
47:57So, it's actually good.
47:58Avocado oil on the other hand,
47:59it doesn't do that.
48:01Now, let's understand the ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 in all oils.
48:05In all the oils, omega-6 is less than omega-3.
48:09In fact, the ratio of omega-6,
48:21it means that you have to take different methods from omega-3 to incorporate it in your diet.
48:27So, let's go to the final verdict.
48:29And the first time,
48:31there is a tie in our verdict.
48:33Because in both oils,
48:34it is very difficult to choose from both oils.
48:36Also, the uses are very different.
48:39If you make a lot of salads in which you use oils or dressings,
48:43then extra virgin olive oil is very good.
48:46You drizzle it in your food.
48:48It will stay in your food.
48:50People use avocado oil in high-hit cooking,
48:53but there are many dupes in the market.
48:55Don't go with any cheap brand.
48:58Always check the back label very carefully.
49:01And as we always say,
49:03if you have a medical condition,
49:05then you use oil to do your doctor.
49:09But I'm sure these three will be finished with our series.
49:11And you have to think,
49:12what do you need to think?
49:13So, we're making a part 4,
49:14which oil should you use?
49:19How much should you use?
49:21All of that will be cleared.
49:22See you in part 4.
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