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00:00I'm going to boo LeBron. I did say that. We got Danny Cunningham at 720. I would never boo him.
00:05I'm going to boo LeBron, which sounds crazy because I didn't even blame. I did not blame LeBron for this.
00:14So then why are you going to boo him?
00:15Here is why.
00:16That makes no sense.
00:17I will explain it the best way I can. I said I was devastated that they didn't get LeBron. I
00:22wanted them to get LeBron.
00:23That's your fault.
00:24Can I ask you one question before you get to why you're going to boo him?
00:27Go ahead.
00:27Who do you blame?
00:28I blame Rich Paul more than anything.
00:34Who's also a Clevelander, right? It's not like this is some guy from L.A. that ran an agency.
00:42He was made by LeBron.
00:44Just because he's a Clevelander doesn't mean he loves Cleveland.
00:48That's not what I'm saying, Daryl.
00:50No, I know. I'm just saying with Rich.
00:53But the whole point has been, like, if it's homecomings and all that, who wouldn't want the guy to be,
01:00you know, if we're truly about homecomings, if you're the hometown guy, why would you not want your guy to
01:07be with the team?
01:08I mean, we've brought up how many clutch clients are there right now with Cleveland Cavaliers.
01:12Yeah, zero.
01:13And I honestly think this is where I disagreed with Daryl.
01:16I don't think that's a coincidence, by the way.
01:18Well, part of it was they paid Donovan.
01:21They paid Donovan.
01:22So you're saying Rich Paul hates Cleveland?
01:23And they paid.
01:24That's not what I'm saying at all.
01:26Well, that's what you're insinuating.
01:27I think that is true.
01:29Listen, I think Rich Paul would be happy to have Cleveland overpay all his clients.
01:35He would put Anthony Davis here tomorrow.
01:37Oh, so this is the second apron thing.
01:39If the Cavs would be happy to sign him to a max extension, despite the fact Anthony Davis only plays,
01:45you know, a third of the game.
01:48He plays Darius Garland minutes.
01:50Yeah, I think he would have been happy to have Darius here had the Cavs not have paid Donovan Mitchell.
01:58Once they paid Donovan Mitchell, the writing was on the wall, and that started the whole process.
02:03But don't forget, the Cavs actually gave Darius Garland the extension before they needed to.
02:11That rookie max extension, the first day they could offer it to him, they gave it to him, despite the
02:16fact on my personal rankings, Darius has never been.
02:20I've always used the term.
02:21You can see it on social media.
02:22He's never been a top 14 point guard in the league.
02:25I know he's been an all-star.
02:26They did the same thing with Evan?
02:26Yeah.
02:27But I thought that made more sense than Darius.
02:29I don't think...
02:30So they went out of their way to help a clutch client in the past.
02:34So I think there's a lot of stuff getting misconstrued here.
02:38But why I would boo LeBron when he comes back, here is the one thing I know for a fact.
02:43There were people in LeBron's camp that were toying with people in Northeast Ohio.
02:48They were.
02:49I got the DM, the people that were trafficking in the LeBron news, and they were guaranteeing LeBron's return.
02:56They were altering Calci and the prediction markets.
03:00Part of it was one high school teammate in particular, they were just messing with some people on social media.
03:09I've seen the videos.
03:11I've seen the DMs.
03:12Like, that hurts.
03:13I'm not saying LeBron orchestrated that.
03:16Maybe they were just doing it to pass the time and were having fun.
03:19Maybe they were doing it to alter the prediction markets, which is kind of a serious thing.
03:23Now that real money is on the hook, like $200-plus million were bet on this.
03:29I know Dan Levitard went after their manipulation of the prediction markets.
03:34I know that Jeff Perlman went after Pat McAfee for the prediction markets.
03:39Like, we do have to have a conversation about this at some point.
03:41Well, they manipulate the stock market.
03:43Well, there is real money that is being...
03:46Now, maybe it's on you if you want to put money in this stuff and that's your recreation.
03:52Maybe that's on you and not on anybody else for doing it.
03:56But I do know people that traffic in this stuff, they feel like they were let down big time
04:01because of some of the insider stuff that was going down.
04:05But why I will boo...
04:06It's a long way to get to why I will boo LeBron, someone who I cherish and the memories and
04:13all that stuff.
04:13It's simple.
04:14This is a game at some point.
04:17There are winners and losers.
04:18And one of the things that does not go unnoticed and everybody should take inventory of
04:25is LeBron's trying to win a championship.
04:28He's trying to add to the trophy case.
04:31He's trying to win championship number five.
04:35And he'll try and do it at the expense of the Cavaliers now.
04:38There.
04:38Bingo.
04:39Bingo.
04:39And once that is understood, when people understand the motivations, LeBron was not
04:46going to help the Cavs in any way if he wasn't going to the Cavs.
04:49Why?
04:50They're in the Eastern Conference.
04:52The Cavs could be competing with them.
04:54The Cavs were in the Eastern Conference Finals last year.
04:56He knows that they're not some joke of a basketball team.
04:59I know some of you want to act like that right now.
05:01But the Cavs are still good and still have potential moves to make with the Jared Allen
05:07situation hanging over them.
05:09I've been on the phone.
05:10I mean, the last three days, my wife wants to kill me because Bath and Bedtime was upset
05:17last night because of some of the phone calls I was making.
05:19I even have Jonathan Kaminga intel that we can get to later because their pursuit of Kaminga
05:26is still potentially in play.
05:28Why would we wait on that?
05:29Why would, what, the Cavs?
05:31No, the Kaminga intel.
05:33Oh, you want the Kaminga intel now?
05:35Well, I mean, if it's important to Cleveland, I think we ought to...
05:38It is important.
05:38Well, he'd be their best athlete tomorrow.
05:41He'd be the best wing they've had in years, even though I know people like to rip up and
05:47down how bad Kaminga is.
05:49Like, no, the Lakers desperately want Jonathan Kaminga.
05:53Are the Lakers not trying to contend?
05:55Are the Lakers not trying to put really good players around Luka Doncic?
06:00Like, the Kaminga works out in Cleveland.
06:03His agent, Aaron Turner, in here is Cleveland.
06:06I know their whole operation very well.
06:08I'm just here to tell you, like, I think Kaminga can help the Cavs.
06:12I do.
06:13Does it put him over the hump to win a championship?
06:16No, he's 23 years old.
06:17Like, he still has a lot of development that needs to be done.
06:22I also saw him in a few playoff games last year give the Knicks way more, way more a
06:29run for their money than anything the Cavs' wings gave the Knicks last year.
06:34I do think he's got the, quote, dog in him a little bit.
06:37He's got a lot of people to prove wrong.
06:38He has, in some ways, some people think he has wasted a lot of money in his pursuit,
06:45whether it was in Golden State or, you know, with what happened in Atlanta.
06:49I just know he helped Golden State in the playoffs at times.
06:52Like, people don't understand, to me, how he could fit in in Cleveland.
06:57I can tell you, I think he could help them.
06:59And there are going to be conversations today.
07:02I know Kobe Altman is back from his family vacation.
07:06Yes, he was vacationing when, I don't know if that was out there,
07:09he was vacationing when this news hit.
07:11This is a time of the year when a lot of the people around the NBA
07:14are vacationing, so it's a little late in the offseason.
07:17I know you had your Giannis move immediately.
07:19You had your Jalen Brown move.
07:22But people wondered if the Hazonia thing means that's the end of Jonathan Kaminga.
07:25No, I don't think it is.
07:27It shouldn't.
07:28But, you know, it's a little bit delicate because of the Cavs' financing situation.
07:31There'd have to be a sign-in-trade.
07:35I know that Atlanta would be interested to have Jared Allen.
07:39It needs to be a sign-in-trade so that Kaminga can make what he wants to make.
07:44I mean, the Cavaliers could sign him as a free agent.
07:46He's technically an unrestricted free agent.
07:48But he's not going to come here for what the Cavaliers would be able to sign him for.
07:52And that's also part, not just the Kaminga situation specifically,
07:55but it's also part of the reason that James Harden has not signed his extension.
08:01Which is important.
08:01You know, look, I'm not a big fan of having to watch James Harden the next three years.
08:08But I'm going to give him his credit.
08:10First of all, they don't get to the conference finals without him.
08:13That's a fact.
08:14He's also part of the reason that they didn't advance any further.
08:17I think a lot of Cavs were the reason they didn't advance any further.
08:21Did anybody play well against the Knicks?
08:23Nobody did.
08:24I know Harden's gotten like 100% of the blame on the afternoon show.
08:27Like, nobody played well in that series.
08:30But I'm going to give him a tremendous amount of credit.
08:32He is sitting back and waiting to sign his extension with the Cavaliers.
08:36He's trying to help.
08:36So that Kobe Yaltman can make the necessary moves this offseason to make it a better basketball team.
08:42Again, that they could not have made if Darius was here because of his contract.
08:46The whole point that people missed.
08:47Or they could not have made if Harden opted in to that option.
08:53Right.
08:54So, like, Harden is actually facilitating.
08:58We're trying to.
08:59Well, yeah.
08:59Okay.
09:00That's fair.
09:00He's attempting to facilitate an avenue for Kobe Yaltman to make this a better basketball team.
09:06Now it's on Kobe Yaltman to make it a better basketball team.
09:09Yes.
09:09They've lost right now on the ledger.
09:11They have lost Dean Wade, who started playoff games for them.
09:15And they lost Keyon Ellis.
09:16And they haven't.
09:17Here's one for you.
09:18Is Kaminga an upgrade from Dean Wade?
09:21Because Dean's more of a defensive player.
09:24Dean is a better Isaac Okoro.
09:27Yeah.
09:27I think he is an upgrade.
09:29Well, then guess what?
09:31If you can get Kaminga, you've now plus the roster.
09:35They have nobody that can ignite a fast break.
09:41They have no athleticism on the team.
09:43Dean Wade, I loved his size.
09:44But he wasn't like a freak athlete.
09:46Kaminga's a freak athlete.
09:47Like, we don't have any of that.
09:49We have nobody that can get back on defense when a shot goes up.
09:52James Harden would shoot a three.
09:54And then nobody could get back on defense in the Eastern Conference Finals.
09:57Like, Kaminga is a guy that can be smothering.
10:00He can do OG and a no-B things.
10:02He's not OG.
10:03I want to be clear.
10:03He's also only 23.
10:05Like, he's nowhere near to where he's going to be as a basketball player like five years from now.
10:10Yeah.
10:10I mean, and he can create some offense.
10:12Evan Mobley can't create offense.
10:13They have Evan Mobley dribbling the ball up the floor.
10:17You have all these ball handlers on this team, and you have Evan Mobley dribbling the ball up the floor.
10:23Yeah.
10:23I think people need to understand that the Cavs need to get athletic.
10:27I've heard people saying DeMar DeRozan.
10:29Like, no.
10:30That doesn't help them whatsoever for where they have their weaknesses right now.
10:36And you saw it.
10:36They're a good regular season team.
10:38And they're a decent playoff team.
10:40Believe it or not.
10:40They're a decent playoff team.
10:42But they have no athleticism.
10:43And they need to find that in a hurry.
10:46And I think Kaminga is a guy that can certainly help them.
10:49Thank you for dragging that out of me.
10:50Owen got my Kaminga intel.
10:53So when's he signing?
10:54No, I don't.
10:55Listen.
10:56I know the Lakers are in hot pursuit.
10:58Come on, Lima.
10:59Get it done.
10:59Because you know what?
11:00If it doesn't happen, I'm blaming you.
11:01Here's the thing.
11:02If their big signings are Mario Hazonia and Jonathan Kaminga, people are going to go nuts about what a horrendous
11:10offseason it was.
11:11This was always going to be very challenging.
11:13I still think there are moves to be made.
11:16Well, Kaminga is a plus to the roster.
11:19Yes.
11:19If you get him.
11:20Yes.
11:20They had nobody like him.
11:21That is a roster improvement.
11:22They had nobody like him.
11:24And I think that's important.
11:26You know, people are going to take the negative like, well, the Warriors didn't want him.
11:31He wasn't on the Warriors timeline.
11:33That was the problem.
11:34Right.
11:34Remember the two timeline thing?
11:36Yeah.
11:36Well, yeah.
11:37That was like the Browns and Miles Garrett.
11:38They weren't on the same timeline.
11:41It's the same thing.
11:41But, yeah, they could have been if they had a really good quarterback.
11:44But, you know, they don't.
11:47Unfortunately.
11:48216-474-0092.
11:49Danny Cunningham coming up in less than 20 minutes.
11:51Daryl is in.
11:54I want to hear from fans.
11:55Now, about who you blame and how you're feeling about LeBron.
11:59I said I would boo him on opening night that he comes back here.
12:02I am curious to see the schedule makers.
12:06Also, we do know we're going to see him early in the season.
12:09And the reason I know that is because we have the vaunted cup.
12:14Oh, of course.
12:15The vaunted cup.
12:16Do it again.
12:17Say it one more time.
12:17We have, ladies and gentlemen, the vaunted in-season United Arab Emirates.
12:24Yeah, you're close.
12:25Vaunted cup.
12:28And against the page.
12:30And, ladies and gentlemen, we have pool play.
12:37Cavs got the worst draw of anyone.
12:40Or the best.
12:41The Knicks.
12:42The Heat.
12:44The Pacers.
12:47The Pacers.
12:47And, ladies and gentlemen, the Philadelphia 76ers.
12:50Do they even win a game?
12:52That's why they call it the cup.
12:54And they call it the pool play.
12:56Daryl, when it's cup time, you never know what's going to happen.
13:00You never know who's going to step up and become the next Arab Emirates NBA cup star.
13:09See, he hit the post.
13:10I failed to.
13:11He actually hit it.
13:12Well, I know where to post it.
13:13It's kind of cheating.
13:15That's not really fair.
13:15I hate the post.
13:17Are you not pumped for LeBron James coming at you?
13:21You know for a fact they have LeBron coming here for cup action.
13:26Of the things that I care about in life, the NBA cup doesn't even register.
13:32Although.
13:32Why?
13:33The Knicks.
13:34Although, congratulations to the New York Knicks.
13:37NBA cup or the World Cup, Daryl?
13:39What?
13:40NBA cup or the World Cup.
13:41Which one do you care about more?
13:42Neither.
13:43I mean, you're hosting a sports talk show.
13:45Other than rooting for.
13:47Now you're going to do it.
13:49I'll rake your cups, Daryl.
13:50Let's go.
13:52Uh, number three, the NBA cup.
13:56Okay.
13:57Number two, the World Cup.
13:59And numero uno, no surprise to anybody, Lord Stanley's Cup.
14:04I'll add number four, Protective Athletic Cups.
14:07I thought you were going to say Reese's Cup.
14:09Reese's Cup is big in the Lima household.
14:11We don't do a lot of treats, but that's one of them.
14:15Just a little guy.
14:16Not the big ones.
14:18We don't traffic in the big ones.
14:20The minis?
14:21We just have the minis.
14:22Eh, the ingredients aren't the same anymore.
14:23That's too much foil work for the size of a greasy cup that I'm getting.
14:29Wow.
14:31Not worth all the effort.
14:33Interesting.
14:34But that's it.
14:36I'm glad to hear the breakdown.
14:38I want to hear from the fans.
14:39Let's go.
14:39They've been waiting.
14:41Let's go to Thomas in Shaker.
14:43Who do you blame for LeBron James, a 76er?
14:48Go ahead, Thomas.
14:51Who I blame is, I blame Colby Altman.
14:53First of all, let me say this.
14:54I'm always happy to talk basketball with you, Mr. Anthony Lima.
14:58I think that you're one of the best basketball minds in the city.
15:00I love talking basketball with you.
15:02Hi, Darryl.
15:03You're awesome, too.
15:04But I blame Colby Altman because Colby Altman has not made this team a Tyson team.
15:10He made mistakes with trades for the last two years.
15:13And keep in mind, it's the same guy who traded Kyrie Irving for Isaiah Thomas.
15:18It's the same guy.
15:19I don't blame him for trading Darryl Garland.
15:21I think he waited too long to trade Darryl Garland.
15:23He should have traded Darryl Garland a year earlier.
15:26That was a problem.
15:27I blame him for trading our team in the middle of a winning streak two years ago for DeAndre Hunter,
15:35who didn't want to be here.
15:36And, you know, you can ask about chemistry issues.
15:38So, you know, if I'm, you know, you want to put a power rate.
15:41You know, the thing is, is that, you know what I mean?
15:42And the thing is, Darryl Garland, I mean, Dan Garland got to be upset with Colby Altman.
15:47He got to be looking at him.
15:48He got to be questioning him because he failed to make moves to make this team better.
15:52He failed to make moves to get this team in the place they need to be at.
15:56And I'm just really frustrated with Colby Altman.
15:59I'm just questioning his leadership and his ability to get over to Hunter.
16:04Thank you, Thomas.
16:05I appreciate it.
16:05Listen, it's, let's see if you can get rid of him.
16:07That's, the season, I want people to be clear here.
16:10The offseason is not over.
16:12Right?
16:13It kind of, in many ways, is just beginning for the Cavs.
16:17Should I also remind?
16:18Because it was on hold for LeBron.
16:19That was the one thing I noticed on Friday was, okay, now here's all the free agents, right?
16:24And I, it's one of those Instagram slide things.
16:27And it had 15 pictures of different guys that are out there in free agency.
16:31And James Harden was one of them.
16:33He is.
16:33He's technically a free agent.
16:36Kaminga is a free agent.
16:38But free agency is, for what we understand of the NBA, it's over.
16:44It doesn't exist.
16:46It's not going to happen.
16:47But what would, what would your reaction be if James Harden went and signed elsewhere?
16:51Well, they, then they just get worse.
16:53Like, that's the thing I don't, I don't understand.
16:56I've saw people advocating like, oh, he just did you a favor opting out of the contract and
17:01then he can go elsewhere.
17:03Like, then you're just worse.
17:04You're worse at basketball.
17:05Like James Harden, first of all, the regular season games, the 26 games that he played in
17:10the regular season, he was awesome.
17:11Yeah.
17:12Okay.
17:12He was a top 20 player in the NBA.
17:14Didn't the Cavs win like six or seven in a row after that trade?
17:17They were awesome with him and they weren't healthy.
17:19Like, remember, Evan was in and out of the lineup.
17:22Donovan was in and out.
17:24Like, he's still an unbelievable regular season player.
17:28As far as the playoffs go, he was up and down.
17:31Like, he was a total rollercoaster.
17:32His bad games were some of the worst games you would ever see.
17:35But he also helped them win.
17:36Yes.
17:37He was also vital.
17:38And the fact that they, I honestly think they needed, they relied on him too much.
17:44That's how, that's how questionable their roster construction is for the playoffs.
17:50That they were relying on him.
17:52And in some of the games, he was their best player.
17:54He helped them win two playoff series, but he was also part of the reason why they needed
17:58seven games to win those playoff series.
18:00A hundred percent true.
18:02I saw people, you know, over the weekend, like, talking about Evan Mobley.
18:06Because I know a lot has been thrown Evan Mobley's way in terms of criticism.
18:10Because they did not trade him for Giannis.
18:14Now, I have conflicting info on, you know, on the pursuit of Giannis on that.
18:19But they were not willing to trade him for Jalen Brown.
18:21Well, yeah.
18:22I mean, that is a fact.
18:23Here's what we learned this offseason.
18:26Because we've learned something throughout this offseason.
18:29Okay?
18:31And that is the Cavaliers' undying devotion to Evan Mobley.
18:36And their undying belief in Evan Mobley.
18:40And now it's on Evan Mobley to validate that.
18:45Because...
18:45Big time pressure on him, I think, for the first time.
18:47Yeah.
18:47Because they were not willing to trade you for Giannis.
18:51They were not willing to trade you for Jalen Brown.
18:55Okay?
18:55Eh, the Giannis thing.
18:57But anyway, go ahead.
18:58Jalen Brown, a hundred percent.
18:59Yes.
18:59But I'm just saying, is Giannis here?
19:02No.
19:02No.
19:03I think some of that is Giannis, but whatever.
19:05I get it.
19:05But the bottom line, though, is, like, they committed to you.
19:10Not just financially.
19:11But they had opportunities to move off of you.
19:15And they ultimately did not do that.
19:17So, yeah.
19:18There's a lot on Evan Mobley's plate this season to validate that belief.
19:21Daryl, you can't even begin to understand what a big season it is for somebody like Evan,
19:29who's already been Defensive Player of the Year.
19:31And I thought at times during the playoffs...
19:33And I'm not talking about box score.
19:34Okay?
19:34I'm not talking about averaging 20 and 10.
19:37This goes beyond box score.
19:38He needs to be in the MVP conversation.
19:41Like, that's the elevation.
19:43When you talk about Evan taking...
19:44It seems like he is so far from that, though.
19:46I understand that.
19:46But when you're talking about him elevating his game and things like that, can we be honest
19:53about the Defensive Player of the Year thing?
19:55If Wemby does not get hurt, he doesn't sniff that award.
19:58Yeah.
19:58He's nowhere near the Defensive Player that nobody is, that Wemby is.
20:01He's great.
20:02He's a great Defensive Player.
20:03Don't misunderstand what I'm saying.
20:04But the reality is, like, there's Wemby, and then there's the rest of the league.
20:08Right?
20:08So, he's not in that category.
20:11But he needs to be, for him to validate this decision by the Cavalier front office, he
20:18needs to be, he needs to play at an MVP contention conversation level.
20:25He needs to be in that conversation.
20:27I'm not saying he's got to go out and win the MVP, but I don't know, can you finish in
20:30the top five in voting?
20:32You see what I'm saying?
20:34He will not be able to be there until you can get the ball to Evan Mobley in big moments
20:40and say, go get me a bucket.
20:41And you know what I think?
20:42And he has not even been close to sniffing that.
20:44I think moving Jared Allen might help that, too.
20:47I think so, too.
20:47And I do think Jared Allen is still going to get moved.
20:50Dashaun in Cleveland.
20:51What's up, man?
20:53Yes, man, listen.
20:55I want to blame Sashi Altman, but we can't blame him because of the simple reason.
21:03LeBron is chasing Jordan.
21:05He's not chasing championships.
21:07So, like, the Knicks thing was...
21:12Oh, we lost him.
21:13...to get in the Jordan conversation.
21:16Other than, if he goes to the Knicks, reach their 50-year drought.
21:20Wow.
21:20There it is.
21:21Rich Paul told us where LeBron was going before the whiteboard was even up.
21:27When he said he was going to the Knicks, everybody should have knew then, well, he's chasing Jordan.
21:33So, the very next team, drought-wise, which you said it earlier, which was, what, 43 years, which would be
21:42Philly.
21:42The Cavs championship wouldn't do anything for him.
21:45Obviously, Miami and Golden State.
21:47It was Philly.
21:48It was, like, we should have knew it was Philly.
21:51And guess what?
21:51I think Gansey knew it was Philly before the first.
21:56That's why he went and got Jalen Brown.
21:58It's hilarious, Deshaun.
21:59Thanks for the call, man.
22:00I think there's a lot of truth to what he's saying.
22:03Yeah.
22:03Ken can attest, we were playing a round of golf about three weeks ago.
22:09The Jalen Brown thing had already been done.
22:11We're playing a round of golf.
22:13We saw somebody at the turn.
22:15Somebody that absolutely knows very well Mike Gansey.
22:21And he had a few drinks.
22:23And he's like, yeah, the LeBron to Philly stuff is not happening.
22:28I know for a fact.
22:29It's like, it's not to Mike.
22:30It's not happening.
22:31It's dead.
22:32And so, here I am.
22:35Here I am.
22:36And he's somebody that would know.
22:37Well, we had former high school teammates of LeBron saying he was coming home.
22:41We had the cupcake person saying he's coming home.
22:43We had a bunch of people saying he's coming home.
22:45We heard rumors of trying to procure cars in Akron.
22:49And listen, you're right.
22:51And maybe Gansey at that point didn't think they were getting LeBron.
22:56In the end, it's LeBron.
22:58He gets to make these decisions.
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