00:00Rico with a Zlatan Ibrahimović t-shirt today that's pretty spiffy okay not who that is but
00:10hold on that's Zlatan I knew you got into the world cup it is so not but who is it
00:20it's general
00:21Zod Mike from the superman movie when we were kids with Christopher Reeves in my world that's
00:28gonna be Zlatan and I'm moving on whatever listen general Zod can general Zod pitch in relief for
00:37the Tigers so let's just spiffy t-shirt you look great thank you let let's get after this I have
00:44something for the people and I have to do the PSA so we can be productive with our time okay
00:51this is
00:52not about what will happen it is about what should happen I am in a certain lane because I want
01:00to
01:00see if I can get everybody in the line okay the most popular thing that's been discussed has been
01:07the idea of will they trade Scoobal or not we have had a conversation several of them that were
01:13predictive that's not this I want to give you the levels of cowardice because I think if the Tigers
01:21just traded Scoobal and did nothing else that's the coward's way out that's a cowardly move so they
01:27can try to remain relevant try to have their cake and eat it too and you're down there buying daiquiris
01:34cowardly it is and I'm gonna explain why no and before you do I just want to tell everybody
01:38please make sure you pay attention Mike did a very good job on this he did I mean every now
01:46and then
01:46when you look at the show sheet David I don't know if it's for you but you're you know what
01:52there's nothing I can do to add to this no that's okay yeah slow clap all right well he did
01:58a good
01:58job I'll take it the floor no I want because I want to see if I can get everyone's buy
02:03-in on this
02:03if you trade Scoobal you need to trade everything that's not bolted to the floor and here's why
02:10this is the coward's way out if they don't do this so Scoobal forget it we agree gotta be traded
02:17yes
02:18we're all in agreement yes Glaber Torres now why would you trade Scoobal and not Torres
02:24are you aware you're gonna lose Torres for free you can't get a comp pick for him because he took
02:33the qualifying offer I did not realize there is no comp pick you won't even get a pizza one of
02:39Corbin's
02:40frozen pizzas you won't even get one so why would Torres be here if Scoobal's gone to Casey Mize
02:48oh but I like Casey Mize why haven't you extended him this is the same team didn't they fight over
02:54like 15 grand in arbitration this wasn't the difference between 19 and 32 million they were
03:00arguing with Casey Mize over a box lunch the point is he's cheap you haven't extended him
03:07and a team that is kind of near that tax threshold man if you could add a Casey Mize who
03:13makes no money
03:14you pay for that so I'll say it again if Scoobal's not here why would Torres why would Mize last
03:21piece
03:22and I can't stand this guy but it's a seller's market and the most expensive thing maybe outside
03:28of right-handed hitting is relief pitching now Kenley Jansen I think he stinks guys out here
03:35throwing 92 miles an hour but he hasn't given up a run in three weeks right but he gets himself
03:39in
03:39all kinds of trouble here's my point somebody could use Kenley Jansen not as their closer but they could
03:46use him setup guy so if Scoobal's not here why would Torres if Torres is not here why would Mize
03:54if Mize
03:54is not here why would Jansen all of this is to say simply trading Scoobal is cowardly that if you're
04:03going to sell sell because here's the problem when you sell Scoobal and then you try to faux message
04:11to fans that we're not selling okay you're bleeping on my head and telling me it's raining
04:16no selling requires you have to be accountable selling requires you have to deal with criticism
04:23selling requires you'd have to somehow unearth yourself from the bunker you're in that's the
04:30problem I have with this because to me whether they lost last night or not which they did
04:36if you're selling as Rico says say it with your chest you cannot make a case for keeping Torres and
04:44losing him for free plus aren't we all aligned how you Lee is going to be the leader in the
04:48clubhouse
04:49started second base next year yeah run it okay well then why would I keep Mize why would I keep
04:55him
04:56you haven't extended him you've had every opportunity to do that you haven't trade him same thing with
05:01Kenley Jansen well yeah Mize you argued you're right you literally argued over pennies when it comes to
05:05baseball it was like is it 15 grand like really do you want him or not and I'll say it
05:12again it's
05:12seller's market look if Curtis Mead netted you know Connerly early I'm not telling you you're
05:19getting that for Gleyber Torres that's not what I'm saying don't tell me you can't get nothing
05:23your job as a GM is to make deals extract value out of depreciated assets and move forward so I
05:31I just
05:31will say it I want to know if if everyone would be in line with this that if they're selling
05:37you have
05:38to sell or you're cowards trading Scooble and doing nothing else is stupid and cowardly just say it
05:46didn't work just say things didn't break our way no one's gonna launch Scott Harris or Greenberg out
05:53of a cannon they tried didn't work better learn from your mistakes your bullpen is ass and your
05:59lineup's ass now bottom line is I'd rather you have the look in the mirror moment and just go okay
06:05it didn't work let's rally to troops bring up Max Clark here after August 14th and preserve that
06:09precious service time you bring up a couple of the kids get rid of this stuff I don't need any
06:15of these
06:15people here anymore well here's why it actually makes a lot of sense because I don't think that
06:20there's a ton of pressure coming from up top so that if you do make these trades and let's just
06:26say
06:26because I know every Tiger fan is gonna because they go back to 1987 and Doyle Alexander okay I know
06:33I'm
06:34sick of it as well but if it doesn't work out nobody's head is in the chopping block so it
06:41didn't
06:41work out let's recoup and come up with a new strategy and as you said let's bring up some of
06:46the younger
06:46guys and see what we have you still would have your a lot of your core players here so it's
06:52not like you
06:53got to start from scratch it's not blowing the thing up what you're trying to do is improve so that
06:58we're not talking about just being in the graphic we're not just talking about can you somehow make
07:04it to the wild card you're talking about hey can we win a world series and the answer is no
07:10so I just
07:11want to know from the people do you agree that if if they sell and they just trade school that
07:17is you
07:17could see through that right I'm asking you as the paying customer you could see through that that's
07:22cowardly if they're gonna sell you gotta sell and like look it's July 28th I'll say it to you again
07:27there's no world he pitches tomorrow and and you can't give yourself 48 hours or 72 hours to trade
07:35a player of that scale if they're not already working on that deal now it's malpractice
07:40and I'd argue the Torres thing the Mize thing the Jensen thing you can package players together
07:45you can do a lot of different things but you've got to be a shark this is why this deadline
07:53is so
07:53fascinating because I don't believe Scott Harris is that guy and and I want it I want a bright light
07:59shown upon that yeah show me who you are can I do a little tinfoil hat sure conspiracy thing
08:06you got Zotan on your shirt you do whatever you want okay whoever that is sorry it's general
08:12general mud Zod and you will kneel before I don't know what that means I'll have to watch Superman I
08:18don't okay here's the thing unless there were already offers on the table for school and you
08:24have to sit there and try to figure out which is the best offer yeah but I don't think that
08:28they're
08:28there because I'm looking at what is going on because now all of a sudden school ball is pitching
08:33more innings if he were leaving after the fifth inning of every game I would say they're trying to be
08:38conservative they want them have to go out there but let's not give him any extra work he's going into
08:46the seventh inning he is really acting as if he wants to be here which leads me to what you
08:51said
08:51I don't think that there's a deal in place for him I don't think that they're sitting there with
08:56five different offers on the desk and trying to figure out you want to hear something that might
09:00support you David has this audio from Jeff Passan I want you to explain this to me because maybe it's
09:06what you're talking about look you know I've said it I will believe they've traded him when I see it
09:11because I don't think they got the you know what to do it but here's Jeff Passan about
09:15what the hell does this mean
09:32needs to make a decision what effing decision the only decision they have to make is what do they
09:38want for dinner the this is so this is again this is the coward index it is cowardly they have
09:45waited
09:45so long they are going to get to a point they can't get the best deal they have they have
09:51been so
09:52afraid to just make the man's decision that now I got Jeff Passan who's the equivalent of Adam
09:59Schefter basically saying they haven't made a decision as of July 28th are you kidding me
10:08oh wait the Orioles just hit another home run what that's cowardly when you have in when you are
10:15indecisive that means you are afraid of making a decision okay well then Mike let's keep the street
10:23going all you can do is harken back to last year's trade deadline and he told you look I hate
10:29to keep
10:29bringing this up but he told you I'm afraid of making decisions because I'm afraid it may blow up in
10:35my face and then what am I going to do if I see one of my young guys lighting it
10:40up for another team
10:41so to get rid of school ball would mean you're getting rid of your superstar and what if he goes
10:48on to win a world series who cares what if he you know wins a Cy Young with that team
10:53who cares I
10:54I understand it's July 28th and I got Jeff Passan saying they haven't made up their effing mind
11:00because are you kidding me like it's a heart versus head heart head knows you need to do this
11:06heart is telling you dude you're describing children and like girls deliberating a prom date what the
11:12hell are we talking about you run a billion dollar enterprise the guy's not re-signing here trade him
11:18right but if you trade him then you're gonna have to step up and tell everybody we got rid of
11:24your
11:24favorite player we got rid of our superstar if you're afraid of doing that a this job ain't for
11:29you and b that's cowardly just do your job everyone will understand if you get up there and say look
11:35we had to sell we're not a good baseball team okay it didn't work breaks my heart thought we had
11:40a
11:40real year in front of us but get up and do your job but that's why Jeff is saying that
11:44like he's saying
11:45guys everybody knows what they should do and you're waiting it's like okay are the tigers gonna call
11:51us or not because we got a deal in place you're already seeing the reports out of la the dodgers
11:55would be all in if he's available what do you mean not available you should tie a for sale sign
12:01around
12:01his balls and put him on the street corner because you know what at 213 he may be available but
12:06then
12:06you know what guys at 217 we decided no no no we're taking our mouth okay that's why i wanted
12:11to start
12:12with this and look guys if you if you disagree hell i want to hear from you more than if
12:17you agree
12:18but i i need you to be able to functionally and critically think as to why you disagree
12:24not just mean italian man i need you to tell me where i'm off base with what i've presented to
12:30you
12:31and what are we doing with that jeff pass and sound that we'll bump back with
12:34they haven't made a decision as of tuesday july 28th are you kidding me
12:41you
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