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00:00:18Welcome to Fourth Millennium.

00:00:20Tonight we face three particularly unsettling enigmas.

00:00:23The first one refers to climate manipulation.

00:00:26Have you heard of a top-secret project called HAARP?

00:00:28Then we will learn about an authentic case file that is Spanish.

00:00:32It was written by the National Police after intervening in a house where poltergeist phenomena were occurring.

00:00:36And finally we will visit the village of the witches, Zugarramurdi.

00:00:40Let's begin!

00:00:42Tsunamis, hurricanes, earthquakes.

00:00:44Recent disasters have put all nations on alert.

00:00:49Are we destroying our own planet?

00:00:52Seeking explanations for this distressing situation,

00:00:55Some speak of old prophecies, while others point to a secret project that is manipulating the weather.

00:01:03She died at the age of 18 after a Ouija board session.

00:01:07From that moment on, the home became a living hell for his family.

00:01:11The National Police intervened in the early hours of the morning

00:01:14and recorded inexplicable events in a terrifying official report.

00:01:21It was a town that was under special surveillance by all the courts of the Inquisition.

00:01:26Today, the long shadow of witches, rituals, and invocations,

00:01:31She is still alive in Zugarramurdi, the village of the witches.

00:01:41500 years ago, the prophet Michel de Notre-Dame, better known as Nostradamus,

00:01:46He wrote here, in these same centuries,

00:01:48that the end of the world was going to happen at the very moment we are living right now,

00:01:52in the first part of the 21st century.

00:01:55It is very curious to observe that prophecies from other, much more remote cultures

00:01:59They recorded that same coincidence, that same time, in their calendars.

00:02:04Why? Today, scientists, sociologists,

00:02:08They are setting their sights on a top-secret project,

00:02:11far more sinister than all these prophecies.

00:02:13They're talking about an experiment that's been running for 10 years.

00:02:16somewhere remote in Alaska.

00:02:18The project that we are going to learn about today on Cuarto Milenio is called HAARP.

00:02:34Tornados, earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, droughts.

00:02:38Lately, natural disasters have been taking up more and more space in the news.

00:02:44Over the past few years, we have watched in awe the most appalling tragedies.

00:02:55And we can't help but wonder what's going on.

00:03:00Is the weather going crazy or is there something more to it?

00:03:05Climate change, as such, is an atmospheric variation at a global level.

00:03:10It is a global change that has, normally, in the history of climate,

00:03:15It has a secular scale of many centuries.

00:03:18What have we been observing over the past 150 years?

00:03:20That this change has occurred, and especially the warming of the atmosphere, of the planet,

00:03:25It has occurred with a speed previously unknown.

00:03:33But this strange period of turmoil goes beyond climate change.

00:03:38Seismic activity across the planet appears to have spiked.

00:03:42Earthquakes and tsunamis leave a trail of victims every year.

00:03:45And experts are working hard to find new ways to predict these catastrophes.

00:03:50Some seem almost paranormal.

00:03:54Very few animals died in the tsunami.

00:03:57The few who died were all in captivity.

00:04:01Somehow they detected it through vibrations, or whatever it was, and fled.

00:04:06They fled calmly.

00:04:07There was a village that, upon hearing the animals, went with them so they wouldn't escape.

00:04:12Nobody died.

00:04:12However, there appear to be factors that scientists have not taken into account.

00:04:17In ancient China, Sun Tzu, the greatest strategist the centuries have ever seen,

00:04:21He already warned in his works that military victory depended largely on knowing how to take advantage of the elements.

00:04:27It is possible that nowadays, the military has decided not to be at the mercy of the weather.

00:04:33but modify them in their favor.

00:04:37Every good soldier should keep in mind the importance of trying to control the weather, the time,

00:04:45atmospheric conditions can become another weapon.

00:04:49The military has already tried this on other occasions, without using atmospheric means.

00:04:54because it is not possible, but it can be done by taking advantage of some favorable weather or climate situation.

00:05:00The day of the Normandy landings was delayed by 24 hours.

00:05:03precisely because allied meteorologists predicted the passage of a frontal system

00:05:07And General Eisenhower decided to hold off on the attack for 24 hours before taking action.

00:05:16There is an internal U.S. Air Force document that states the following.

00:05:20Climate change will be part of domestic and international security

00:05:25and could be done unilaterally.

00:05:28It can be used offensively or defensively or for deterrent purposes.

00:05:33The ability to generate precipitation, fog, storms, or modify outer space

00:05:38or the production of artificial climates.

00:05:41It all forms part of a set of technologies that can increase technological knowledge,

00:05:46the wealth and power of the United States or to degrade that of its adversaries.

00:05:53There are those who believe that the means to achieve all this already exist.

00:05:56This is a sinister initiative that has been the subject of much discussion in insider circles for years.

00:06:02The HAARP project.

00:06:07This project is a way to manipulate not only the climate, but also people's minds.

00:06:16and to cause, either as an objective or as a side effect, a whole series of geophysical disturbances on Earth.

00:06:24It's not a matter of a few crazy people or conspiracy theorists making this accusation.

00:06:29Since 1992, the HAARP facility has been operating in Alaska as a scientific and academic research program.

00:06:39However, environmentalists, meteorologists, and activists denounce that this is actually a new generation of weapons.

00:06:46designed for the manipulation of weather, communications, and electrical systems.

00:06:52A complex and unknown system that would serve to facilitate the remote control of entire regions of the planet.

00:07:00In 2002, 90 deputies of the Duma, the Russian parliament, filed a complaint with the UN

00:07:11and before a number of other international organizations regarding HAARP prohibiting its use,

00:07:20proposing that the use of all types of systems that could be used as geophysical weapons be prohibited,

00:07:29That is, weapons capable of changing the geological and atmospheric conditions of the Earth.

00:07:34It may seem like we're talking about something straight out of science fiction, but HAARP is very real.

00:07:40Its location can be found via the Internet, thanks to satellite images.

00:07:46Amateur radio operators from all over the world have been able to locate it on their receivers

00:07:50the emissions from the more than 180 antennas that the complex has.

00:07:54This is its sound.

00:08:06Whether it is a natural phenomenon or the result of human greed,

00:08:10It is especially intriguing to see that the climate change we are experiencing

00:08:15It was already prophesied by the ancients, who located it with complete accuracy.

00:08:20as something that would happen in our times,

00:08:23with consequences that would affect the entire human species.

00:08:27Ancient texts, written in various languages,

00:08:30They were already announcing a period of rebellion of the Earth against its inhabitants.

00:08:35Have we already reached that threshold?

00:08:39From the indigenous peoples of North America, for example, to the Maya or the Inca,

00:08:45passing through the Hindu verses and so many other prophetic traditions,

00:08:50all of them, including the biblical ones that speak of the day of Ayavé,

00:08:54They all agree that a time will come

00:08:57transcendental for the Earth in which a whole series of conditions will occur.

00:09:00And the incredible thing is that many of those conditions are manifesting themselves.

00:09:04before our very eyes, some of it has been a long time ago,

00:09:07and others, in recent years, in a stervous way.

00:09:11Time of Armageddon, end of our era, the great cataclysm.

00:09:17Why so many wise old men and prophets?

00:09:19Did they predict a major climate catastrophe in the coming years?

00:09:24Why did their calculations always point

00:09:26towards this first decade of the 21st century?

00:09:32With or without doomsayers and prophets,

00:09:35Whether or not one believes in colossal weapons capable of controlling what happens in our atmosphere,

00:09:41the only thing we can be sure of regarding climate change

00:09:45The future, now more than ever, is in our own hands.

00:09:50It is up to us to understand this and react in order to continue enjoying this wonderful blue planet.

00:09:57I'm sure we still have time.

00:10:21Experts say it's around 7 megahertz,

00:10:25on a shortwave radio station like this one,

00:10:27as many amateur radio operators in this country may have,

00:10:30You can access the strange and enigmatic emissions of HAARP.

00:10:35I'd like that, let's see if we're lucky,

00:10:38that they listened very carefully.

00:10:46Numbers, digits, coordinates, precise commands,

00:10:49For what purpose, by whom, and why?

00:10:51And above all, why is there this trend on the Internet?

00:10:55who claims that all of this is part of a top-secret project?

00:11:00Whose utterly bizarre objective is to manipulate the weather.

00:11:06Why do they say that HAARP emits those voices?

00:11:09so that some antennas can be activated and storms can be dispersed,

00:11:15winds go to unexpected places,

00:11:17Fantasy, science fiction, exaggeration, conspiracy?

00:11:21The truth is that scientific and decisive people

00:11:25They are already starting to get alarmed by these kinds of strange experiments.

00:11:29We have with us a good friend, José Manuel Jiménez Ferrer.

00:11:34He did his doctoral thesis; he's a geographer.

00:11:36on flood risks and other related aspects

00:11:40to the issue of climate change, which is unfortunately so fashionable.

00:11:44José Manuel, good evening.

00:11:45Hello, good evening, Iker.

00:11:46Hey, by the way, what do you think of all this HAARP stuff?

00:11:49Exaggeration or is it likely that the United States and other powers

00:11:53Have they been interested in manipulating the weather for a long time?

00:11:56It's what we already discussed once, I think it's terrible.

00:11:59terrible, and I firmly believe that.

00:12:01In other words, I see them as very capable of experimenting.

00:12:04in trying to modify the climate from a completely anthropogenic perspective

00:12:07and with very specific interests.

00:12:09In other words, HAARP wouldn't be so much a legend generated by idle internet users,

00:12:14but there may be an absolutely real basis for it.

00:12:16Yes, yes, yes.

00:12:17Without a doubt.

00:12:18Yes, yes, yes, for me yes.

00:12:19Interesting words.

00:12:20José Manuel, by the way, what's happening in the world now is incredible.

00:12:24The images we are seeing are both astonishing and terrifying.

00:12:27tornadoes, tsunamis, earthquakes, or is everything happening now?

00:12:31And as the prophecy says, we are in the end times.

00:12:33I don't believe in that, but maybe, who knows,

00:12:36Or is it that we have more information and are more aware?

00:12:39Exactly, and you are exactly what you say.

00:12:41In other words, it's not that we're witnessing a cycle in which everything is happening much more

00:12:45not only than before, but we are actually much more and better informed.

00:12:49In other words, that they bombard us every day, and bombard us in the good sense of the word.

00:12:53with such dramatic images as those we can observe,

00:12:55It is something inherent to our information and it is something that should make us

00:13:00It's about raising awareness about the problem, about what's happening,

00:13:02But we shouldn't attribute everything to a climatic process,

00:13:06In other words, the cause is climatic, but the effects are human.

00:13:09As we said before, the Earth is becoming hostile, what is happening?

00:13:12Some speak of Gaia's message; Mother Earth can't take it anymore.

00:13:16She is fed up with this human being who does not understand her rules,

00:13:18who does not respect its codes, but this also happened in ancient times,

00:13:22These phenomena, which don't sound so strange today, are new terms, aren't they?

00:13:25Tsunamis, for example, practically nobody knew what they were.

00:13:28It's common now, but it used to happen; thousands of years ago, it was exactly the same.

00:13:32Yes, yes, thousands, hundreds, even a while ago, for example,

00:13:35Speaking on the scale of this century, for example,

00:13:38There were floods in China in the 1930s,

00:13:40There have been devastating floods that have taken lives

00:13:42of more than 3 million people, that is,

00:13:45And practically every 10 or 15 years we have these kinds of events,

00:13:50But these devastating effects occur annually, every year.

00:13:53with tens, hundreds and thousands of deaths in Southeast Asia, in Central America,

00:13:58That is, if we make a global calculation, what are the losses of life?

00:14:00due to extreme natural phenomena, it is something inherent to our climate,

00:14:04That's the problem, the loss of life, that is to say,

00:14:07It is normal for this climatic phenomenon to occur.

00:14:09within the climatic variety of our planet,

00:14:12Human losses are what shouldn't be considered normal.

00:14:15the exposure, the vulnerability of our society,

00:14:17The fact that most of them are affected by these phenomena is what worries me.

00:14:20Therefore, José Manuel, we're doing something wrong.

00:14:22People today have a certain concept; they are very aware of time.

00:14:26He's keeping one eye on the heights, saying, "What's going to happen?"

00:14:30These things happen in Spain; there have been phenomena in Catalonia.

00:14:33These tornadoes, these typhoon-like storms, were practically unknown.

00:14:36Amazing, incredible, strange, this all really seems paranormal.

00:14:41even though it has a logical explanation.

00:14:43We wanted to go out into the street, Fourth Millennium, the voice never abandons

00:14:46of ordinary people who have to give their opinion,

00:14:49their support for one issue or their discrediting of another.

00:14:52Over time, things, it must be said, are very unified.

00:14:57Everyone is watching what is happening with fear and anticipation.

00:15:00And each one sees it from their own point of view.

00:15:06It is natural, partly natural and partly made by humans.

00:15:14Well, I think the man does have something to do with it,

00:15:16Because the way it's treating the planet, well, it's interfering.

00:15:21in what is climate change.

00:15:22I think it is changing; the cold weather is arriving much later.

00:15:27and it arrives very suddenly.

00:15:29Well, if we fill the atmosphere with smoke and overheat the planet,

00:15:34Well, it's hard to say it's not our fault, isn't it?

00:15:36Maybe we're exaggerating the night a little at times, aren't we?

00:15:39Well, we've been pounding the continent for a century and, well, it seems there are consequences now, don't you think?

00:15:46And years ago, it snowed more and it was colder in winter

00:15:51And for the last four or five years or so, the winters have been quite mild.

00:15:56Let's all be a little careful.

00:16:01It is therefore no coincidence that in the United States

00:16:04The channel that has increased its audience the most is precisely the weather news channel.

00:16:10The world is tense, the elements are in turmoil, without a doubt.

00:16:15But, José Manuel, you work at the University of Alicante

00:16:17You did amazing, concrete experiments that people will understand very well,

00:16:21And that's because our own countryside, in the rural world,

00:16:24The climate has been manipulated, not at the level of HAARP,

00:16:28not at a macroclimatic level, let's say, but on a small scale.

00:16:32But there are surprising experiments that I believe are illegal, yet they continue to be done, right?

00:16:36Yes, yes, so we can see the scale of the problem.

00:16:38In other words, we have been able to verify how, from the field itself,

00:16:41from within agriculture itself, for the sake of an economic benefit, which is quite evident,

00:16:44In other words, we all like to put things in our mouths,

00:16:47to eat some perfect tomatoes, round, very pretty and shiny.

00:16:50Well, in the southeast of the peninsula, in Alicante, the much-needed rain,

00:16:56Sometimes, it's bothersome to many crops in situ.

00:16:58That is, that the drop of water falls on top of the tomato, the grape,

00:17:03It spoils the appearance of the fruit, so what happens?

00:17:05What it needs is irrigation.

00:17:07So, of course, that annoying haste,

00:17:09Then experiments have been conducted,

00:17:12bombard the clouds with methyl bromide.

00:17:13Bombing the clouds?

00:17:15Yes, with methyl bromide, small planes,

00:17:16that were flying suspiciously overhead when a storm was about to form

00:17:19through the Alicante countryside, the Vinalopós region,

00:17:21We are seeing very productive areas in that type of cutting-edge agriculture,

00:17:25Well, they've been working on that.

00:17:26in trying to prevent that water that she so desperately needed from falling.

00:17:29And that's been fully verified, not by me,

00:17:32but by people who have worked very directly on the subject,

00:17:34There are even photographs of it.

00:17:36I must confess to you, José Manuel,

00:17:37I thought that the whole ghost plane thing

00:17:39that drove away the storms

00:17:41It was a complete urban legend,

00:17:42And yet, it is absolutely real.

00:17:44I believe that in Soria there were even specific complaints.

00:17:46because of these strange types of aviators

00:17:48that prevented much-needed rain.

00:17:50Therefore, nature is being manipulated in that state.

00:17:53On a very local scale, small planes,

00:17:54even hand-held rockets like the one we can have at the fair,

00:17:57But of course, the casing, the contents of the casing

00:17:59It's not gunpowder for creating a pretty effect,

00:18:01but actually a terrible effect on us,

00:18:04Because what we need is water.

00:18:06Friends of Fourth Millennium,

00:18:07We're going on a trip,

00:18:08a journey through the network,

00:18:10a journey that has been cut short, strangely,

00:18:12Let me explain.

00:18:13Well, we've searched for the exact location

00:18:16where the HAARP project antennas are located,

00:18:20that supposed, I repeat, top-secret project

00:18:22who would want to manipulate the weather

00:18:24And that for many conspiracy theorists, perhaps,

00:18:27would be affecting it excessively

00:18:28and causing everything that has been happening in recent years.

00:18:32Well, we came,

00:18:33through satellite mapping of the entire world,

00:18:37to the exact location in Gakona, Alaska,

00:18:40Where are these antennas?

00:18:41The surprise, I assure you,

00:18:44It has been monumental.

00:18:48During the documentation process for this program,

00:18:50We have discovered a fact that is, to say the least, disturbing.

00:18:53We were looking for satellite images

00:18:56of the HAARP facility,

00:18:57And they do exist.

00:18:59Here we can see it perfectly

00:19:00which can be seen on the internet

00:19:02how the antenna complex

00:19:04It is located south of the town of Gakona.

00:19:08What we have discovered

00:19:09It has been that a few kilometers to the north

00:19:11There is a rectangular area that is black.

00:19:14completely censored

00:19:15that has been removed from satellite images

00:19:18possibly because it houses

00:19:19some kind of military installation,

00:19:22top secret facility.

00:19:24We can only assume

00:19:25given the proximity,

00:19:26This facility has something to do with HAARP.

00:19:28It's something we'll continue to investigate.

00:19:33Let us hope, for our own good,

00:19:35as global humanity,

00:19:36Let this be it,

00:19:37conspiracy theories, fiction, exaggeration

00:19:39and not a resounding reality.

00:19:41José Manuel Jiménez Ferrer,

00:19:42Thank you so much for your visit to Cuarto Milenio.

00:19:44Iker, it's a pleasure to see your exhibition.

00:19:46And now, if you like,

00:19:47We delve even deeper into the world of technology.

00:19:51Agustín Ruiz de Aguirre,

00:19:52technical director of SER,

00:19:53He's going to tell us what's important.

00:19:55which are HAARP emissions.

00:20:01In the frequency band,

00:20:02This one you're pointing out to me,

00:20:04from 2 to 10 megahertz,

00:20:07the most powerful radio stations,

00:20:09It's shortwave,

00:20:09This already corresponds to shortwave,

00:20:11the most powerful radio stations

00:20:13of those that are published

00:20:14on the HFCC lists,

00:20:17They belong to Ukrainian radio stations

00:20:18of one thousand kilowatts.

00:20:19In other words, we would be talking

00:20:203,600 times more

00:20:23of power,

00:20:24of issue.

00:20:26In Spain,

00:20:27To focus a little on our country,

00:20:29shortwave,

00:20:31the service is solely and exclusively state-run,

00:20:35This corresponds to national radio stations,

00:20:38whose maximum power

00:20:39It is around 350 kilowatts.

00:20:42Therefore,

00:20:43We would be talking about 10,000 times more

00:20:45that the Spanish broadcaster.

00:20:51Now we're going to take a trip back in time.

00:20:53We're going to the last witches' stronghold

00:20:56that remains in Spain.

00:20:57A place marked by tragedy,

00:20:58because of the mystery,

00:20:59because of the legend.

00:21:01We're going to take care of that too.

00:21:02from the great X-Files

00:21:03which the National Police confronted in Madrid

00:21:05not too long ago.

00:21:07We want to know what happened.

00:21:08with the strange death of a girl

00:21:10after practicing with the Ouija board

00:21:11and strange phenomena

00:21:12that several police officers experienced

00:21:14inside that house.

00:21:16And also, of course,

00:21:17We want to analyze the photographs

00:21:19that you,

00:21:20friends of Cuarto Milenio,

00:21:21They are sending.

00:21:22I have to say and sincerely thank you

00:21:24the avalanche of documents,

00:21:25of photographs,

00:21:26of images,

00:21:27of filming,

00:21:27of recordings

00:21:28who are joining this program.

00:21:30We are happy

00:21:32to receive all that material

00:21:33and our teams

00:21:34They are already investigating.

00:21:35Images that are hard to forget.

00:21:37Images like these.

00:22:29Images like these.

00:22:32It happened 150 years ago.

00:22:34Three sisters

00:22:35from a humble neighborhood in New York,

00:22:37Arcadia, Hidesville,

00:22:38They started playing

00:22:39to a kind of childish joke.

00:22:42It happened in the basement

00:22:43from their own home.

00:22:44A damp place,

00:22:45full of defects,

00:22:47of chipping.

00:22:49In one of them

00:22:49Sounds could be heard.

00:22:51It all started, as I said,

00:22:52as a kind of entertainment.

00:22:54Sounds like these.

00:22:56Over time,

00:22:57parapsychology experts

00:22:58They called them raps,

00:22:59blows that said something,

00:23:01that they had a message.

00:23:02Those three girls,

00:23:03between 14 and 9 years old,

00:23:05They started chatting

00:23:06with that entity,

00:23:07with those blows.

00:23:08One was yes

00:23:09and two meant no.

00:23:11Many people didn't believe them.

00:23:13He thought it was almost

00:23:13a fairground attraction.

00:23:14But with time

00:23:15There was a gruesome discovery

00:23:16that went around the world.

00:23:18They,

00:23:18those girls,

00:23:19Who would believe them?

00:23:20They said they had communicated

00:23:22with a spirit,

00:23:23with a kind of traveler

00:23:24murdered in that same place.

00:23:26About 30 years later,

00:23:27the now modern excavators

00:23:29They unearth a corpse,

00:23:30Charles Brian Rosma's,

00:23:32a peddler who indeed

00:23:33He had been stabbed several times

00:23:36in that same venue.

00:23:37The news spread like wildfire

00:23:39And so people began to talk about spiritualism.

00:23:42Who hasn't talked about this phenomenon?

00:23:43Who in their free time,

00:23:44almost idle,

00:23:45in youth,

00:23:46has started using the Ouija board,

00:23:48trying to connect with something?

00:23:50Almost always, as I say,

00:23:51in an absolutely innocent and unconscious way.

00:23:54And I say this because of spiritualism

00:23:56It has had more than one victim.

00:23:58Perhaps the last one,

00:23:59the most well known,

00:23:59the most shocking case,

00:24:01It took place in Madrid,

00:24:02in a neighborhood like Vallecas,

00:24:04in a house like any other,

00:24:06a person like any other television viewer

00:24:07of the fourth millennium.

00:24:09He was becoming interested in spiritualism

00:24:10increasingly,

00:24:11with increasing obsession.

00:24:13In the end, that girl,

00:24:14Estefanía Gutiérrez Lázaro,

00:24:1618 years old,

00:24:16He lost his life under strange circumstances.

00:24:18That case is important.

00:24:19and we want to bring it here

00:24:20because the National Police

00:24:22intervened.

00:24:23I want to introduce you

00:24:24to José Manuel Sánchez,

00:24:27chief commissioner

00:24:27of the Central District of Madrid.

00:24:29José Manuel, welcome.

00:24:31Okay, goodbye.

00:24:32You've heard a lot

00:24:33In this case, of course,

00:24:34But he's not the only one.

00:24:35The National Police

00:24:35has intervened,

00:24:37you have intervened

00:24:38on other occasions

00:24:38in houses where they spent

00:24:40inexplicable things.

00:24:42I think that when someone

00:24:43It is in a crisis situation,

00:24:46He has a problem,

00:24:48Fortunately for us,

00:24:49Trust the police,

00:24:50He calls us.

00:24:51Then we'll go there

00:24:52And what we do is verify

00:24:54what we see,

00:24:55although sometimes

00:24:55We find it inexplicable,

00:24:57as is the case here,

00:24:57that in the end

00:24:58the intervening inspector

00:24:59says,

00:25:00Why did this happen?

00:25:01This really happened.

00:25:02It's inexplicable to me.

00:25:03But the truth is

00:25:04It has happened.

00:25:05We left a record

00:25:07from this

00:25:07so that afterwards

00:25:08the researchers

00:25:09or the judge

00:25:10or whoever it may concern

00:25:12look

00:25:12the explanations

00:25:13to this,

00:25:14but

00:25:15It's our job.

00:25:16Indeed,

00:25:17the National Police

00:25:18has faced

00:25:18on several occasions

00:25:19so the experts

00:25:20they would call

00:25:20poltergeist phenomena,

00:25:22doors that open

00:25:23and they close,

00:25:24a crucifix

00:25:24that turns

00:25:25360 degrees,

00:25:27a kind of claw

00:25:28three fingers

00:25:29that crosses

00:25:30a poster from above

00:25:30or below,

00:25:31what one of the inspectors

00:25:32Identifies as slime

00:25:33of a consistent appearance

00:25:35and brown

00:25:35that are created

00:25:36in the air

00:25:37and that go down

00:25:38down to the ground.

00:25:39All of that happened

00:25:39in that house

00:25:40one November night

00:25:41of 1992.

00:25:42The exceptional

00:25:43of this story

00:25:44It's that four inspectors

00:25:46they leave signed

00:25:47an intervention report

00:25:48Absolutely amazing.

00:25:50But the surprise

00:25:51has been increasing.

00:25:52The Cuarto Milenio team

00:25:53He was not in that house

00:25:55but in which

00:25:57the family has been able to acquire,

00:25:58fortunately

00:25:59have been able to leave

00:26:00that other one

00:26:00on Luis Marín street

00:26:01and they have gone

00:26:02to another home.

00:26:04But the voices,

00:26:05I find it strange,

00:26:06the mysterious,

00:26:07It seems he doesn't want to abandon them,

00:26:08It seems to still be there,

00:26:09present,

00:26:10linked to that family.

00:26:11The question is,

00:26:12Is this the place?

00:26:12the one that causes

00:26:13These phenomena?

00:26:14Are they the mind

00:26:15of those people

00:26:16the generators

00:26:17of this mystery?

00:26:18I would like them to listen

00:26:19very sincerely

00:26:20the following document.

00:26:21It is an audio document.

00:26:22Some would call it

00:26:23of psychophony.

00:26:24We simply

00:26:25We showed it to him.

00:26:27It is a voice

00:26:27extremely distressing.

00:26:29Let's listen to her.

00:26:40A whispering voice

00:26:42that says

00:26:42I can't

00:26:43and that slips through

00:26:43on several occasions

00:26:44in the recording

00:26:45from the cameras

00:26:46from Cuarto Milenio.

00:26:47That is to say,

00:26:47It's not just a recorder

00:26:48left there

00:26:50lemon

00:26:50trying to grasp something,

00:26:51No.

00:26:52At that very moment

00:26:53It was clear that no one was speaking,

00:26:54that nobody uttered a word

00:26:56and yet

00:26:56This appeared suddenly.

00:26:58Throughout the recording

00:26:59from the report

00:27:00about the file

00:27:01Vallecas, who are now going to see

00:27:02several voices

00:27:03have intervened

00:27:04in the same way

00:27:05voices also

00:27:06of one aspect

00:27:07Let's put it this way

00:27:08or of an unpleasant tone

00:27:10dark, sudden

00:27:11as if they were

00:27:12words lost in the air.

00:27:13José Manuel,

00:27:15personally

00:27:15when you hear

00:27:16something like this

00:27:17what do you think?

00:27:18Now this is it!

00:27:18a strange phenomenon

00:27:19that I don't know from a police standpoint

00:27:21how could it be

00:27:21designated in a report.

00:27:23Well, if I were

00:27:24the policeman

00:27:24that intervenes

00:27:26and this was

00:27:26an intervention

00:27:27of the police

00:27:27I would put

00:27:28that

00:27:30surely

00:27:30because of the strength

00:27:32of the microphones

00:27:33have collected

00:27:34something

00:27:34I mean

00:27:35The report has been done

00:27:37And I was there.

00:27:37but

00:27:39the microphones

00:27:40have they collected something

00:27:40that I did not perceive

00:27:42then

00:27:42over there

00:27:43because it is the fact

00:27:43let's say it would be

00:27:44the description

00:27:45of the objective element

00:27:46my personal impression

00:27:48well the truth

00:27:48the thing is

00:27:49one is left absolutely amazed

00:27:51and of course

00:27:52turning it over in my mind

00:27:53one might think

00:27:54let it be

00:27:56a question

00:27:57of people

00:27:57because the place

00:27:58it just can't be

00:27:59because it has changed

00:28:00of place

00:28:00then maybe

00:28:01It turns out that the transmitter

00:28:02of those feelings

00:28:04is the mother

00:28:05No?

00:28:05Everything is unknown

00:28:06And it's all a mystery.

00:28:07around a story

00:28:08heartbreaking and dramatic

00:28:09November 14

00:28:111992

00:28:13a police report

00:28:15confirms

00:28:16what strange phenomena

00:28:17have occurred

00:28:18in a house

00:28:19from anywhere

00:28:20in this case

00:28:21a populous Madrid neighborhood

00:28:23forever

00:28:24This story will be known

00:28:25as

00:28:25the Vallecas file

00:28:39It all began

00:28:40in March

00:28:40of 1990

00:28:41when Estefanía Gutiérrez

00:28:43Lazarus

00:28:4318 years old

00:28:45practiced the so-called

00:28:46Ouija board game

00:28:47along with several colleagues

00:28:48high school

00:28:49It all begins

00:28:50when my daughter

00:28:52uses a Ouija board

00:28:53at school

00:28:54so

00:28:56The teacher came in

00:28:57broke the board

00:28:59and when the board broke

00:29:01the glass

00:29:03It looked like smoke

00:29:05so

00:29:06Well, the glass broke.

00:29:08and well

00:29:09well

00:29:10the smoke

00:29:11my daughter left

00:29:12to the face

00:29:14and

00:29:15since then

00:29:17my daughter

00:29:18toward

00:29:18some very strange things

00:29:20from that experience

00:29:21the young woman

00:29:22began to suffer

00:29:23some enigmatic

00:29:23compulsions

00:29:24altered states

00:29:26of conscience

00:29:26in which he stated

00:29:27observe figures

00:29:28around

00:29:29that they called her

00:29:30by his name

00:29:30She says she saw

00:29:32strange people

00:29:33who called her

00:29:35that they called her

00:29:36that were caught

00:29:38hand in hand

00:29:38and that they were calling her

00:29:40but

00:29:42I

00:29:42me, certainly

00:29:43I hit her in the face

00:29:44and it began

00:29:45Estefanía

00:29:46Estefanía

00:29:46they become daughter

00:29:47come

00:29:47And she wouldn't listen to me.

00:29:49situations in which

00:29:50her body looked

00:29:51possessed

00:29:52by a force

00:29:53superhuman

00:29:53when they saw

00:29:55that

00:29:55was

00:29:57as if it were

00:29:58a wolfdog

00:30:01foaming

00:30:02through the mouth

00:30:02and throwing

00:30:04to his brothers

00:30:06for six months

00:30:07visited different

00:30:08health centers

00:30:09and no doctor

00:30:10was able to certify

00:30:11what type of disease

00:30:12suffered

00:30:12the teenager

00:30:13They ran tests on him

00:30:15They performed tests on him

00:30:16and they didn't take out

00:30:18nothing

00:30:19you are welcome

00:30:20the doctors

00:30:21nothing else

00:30:22that they told me

00:30:23that was perfectly

00:30:24that he had nothing

00:30:26and well

00:30:27well, through mediation

00:30:28about that

00:30:29That was all

00:30:30everything rolling

00:30:31all

00:30:31everything rolling

00:30:32and it's getting worse.

00:30:34and it's getting worse.

00:30:35and the girl

00:30:35It was getting worse and worse.

00:30:37because she gave it

00:30:38on the subway

00:30:39the same as when she gave it

00:30:40on the bus

00:30:41or where

00:30:42I was there

00:30:43she gave it

00:30:45unfortunately

00:30:46died

00:30:47in strange

00:30:48circumstances

00:30:48today

00:30:49elapsed

00:30:5015 years

00:30:51his death

00:30:52continues to be

00:30:53a mystery

00:30:56It happened on August 14th

00:30:58of 1991

00:30:59that day

00:31:01in this room

00:31:02died

00:31:02Estefanía Gutiérrez Lázaro

00:31:04his death

00:31:05continues to be

00:31:05a mystery

00:31:06according to the doctors

00:31:07Pedro Cabeza

00:31:08and Gregorio Arroyo

00:31:09his death was

00:31:11sudden

00:31:11and suspicious

00:31:12from that date

00:31:14in this building

00:31:15in this house

00:31:16The phenomena began

00:31:17paranormal

00:31:17the closet doors

00:31:19and rooms

00:31:20they opened

00:31:20and they closed

00:31:21violently

00:31:21electrical appliances

00:31:23they turned on

00:31:24and they turned off by themselves

00:31:25and small objects

00:31:26decorative

00:31:26They seemed to be charging

00:31:28own life

00:31:28I learned well

00:31:29or he wanted it

00:31:30because it's never

00:31:32never

00:31:32I haven't been afraid

00:31:33you are welcome

00:31:33And since I haven't had

00:31:35afraid of nothing

00:31:36Well, I haven't loved myself.

00:31:37until night

00:31:38the one who told you

00:31:39my wife

00:31:39that

00:31:40that we put

00:31:42the three-piece

00:31:43the table

00:31:43the three-piece

00:31:44and opened up a bit

00:31:45so the door

00:31:47the upstairs neighbor

00:31:48He hasn't returned

00:31:48to enter

00:31:49to that floor more

00:31:50virulence

00:31:50of the incidents

00:31:51it was increasing

00:31:52shades

00:31:53and ethereal figures

00:31:55they began to harass

00:31:56to the Gutiérrez Lázaro family

00:31:57and I lay down

00:31:59and it turns out

00:32:01that in the end

00:32:01for a while

00:32:02say

00:32:03There's something here

00:32:04that is pressuring me

00:32:06And not only that

00:32:08It's my turn

00:32:09feet

00:32:09and apart

00:32:10hands

00:32:11whatever I have

00:32:12of those clothes

00:32:12It's my turn.

00:32:13the situation

00:32:14became

00:32:15so desperate

00:32:15that even

00:32:16installed

00:32:17motion alarms

00:32:18in different

00:32:19stays

00:32:19of the house

00:32:21we decided to put

00:32:21alarms in the hallway

00:32:22because to me

00:32:24my son-in-law

00:32:25told me

00:32:25that with that

00:32:25it looked

00:32:27if something happened

00:32:28or not

00:32:28and one of the

00:32:30nights

00:32:31of being placed

00:32:32are one of the

00:32:33alarms

00:32:35We went out into the hallway

00:32:36and we saw nothing

00:32:38and it didn't happen

00:32:39nobody

00:32:39down the hallway

00:32:39I was alone

00:32:40in the hallway

00:32:41aggressiveness

00:32:42of phenomenology

00:32:43it came to be

00:32:44patent

00:32:44when a photograph

00:32:46It burned for no reason

00:32:47apparent

00:32:47leaving intact

00:32:49the frame and glass

00:32:49that held her

00:32:50had

00:32:51a radiator

00:32:53with the radiator cover

00:32:54marble

00:32:56and had

00:32:57the photograph

00:32:57placed there

00:32:58and I told him

00:32:59to my husband

00:33:00and photography

00:33:00from Estefanía

00:33:02says

00:33:03I don't know

00:33:04I looked at the ground

00:33:05say

00:33:05But if he's here

00:33:06on the ground

00:33:07burned

00:33:07say

00:33:08Yeah

00:33:08Well

00:33:09was face down

00:33:10and I put it right.

00:33:13and was

00:33:13the glass

00:33:14good

00:33:16normal

00:33:16and the

00:33:18this

00:33:18the framework

00:33:19about the frame

00:33:20equal

00:33:21It was normal.

00:33:22well then

00:33:23It didn't burn

00:33:24nothing

00:33:25November 27

00:33:27of 1992

00:33:28the police station

00:33:29from Vallecas

00:33:30Moratalaz

00:33:30He received a call

00:33:31amazing

00:33:32on the street

00:33:33Luis Marín

00:33:34were being produced

00:33:35paranormal phenomena

00:33:38a couple

00:33:39of the police

00:33:40navy

00:33:40a specter

00:33:42and a psychologist

00:33:45were

00:33:45Let's see what happens

00:33:47They entered the house

00:33:48they arrived

00:33:49They entered the house

00:33:51the two police officers

00:33:52they stayed

00:33:52with my wife

00:33:53in the living room

00:33:53the specter

00:33:55and the psychologist

00:33:55we went in

00:33:56to the room

00:33:56where she gave it

00:33:57that to my daughter

00:33:58and the rooms

00:33:59instead of being windows

00:34:01They had terraces

00:34:02that door

00:34:02to the terrace

00:34:04and being

00:34:05seated

00:34:05on top of the bed

00:34:06we are sorry

00:34:06as if they had thrown

00:34:08a stone

00:34:08via the terrace

00:34:09They rolled a stone

00:34:10We went outside

00:34:12and there was no stone there.

00:34:13There was nothing.

00:34:13was

00:34:14completely clean

00:34:16and the police

00:34:18my mom

00:34:18he told her

00:34:19the viewer

00:34:19you have come out

00:34:20You've thrown something here

00:34:21you have not

00:34:23returned from here

00:34:24and then when

00:34:25I'll explain.

00:34:26he was telling her

00:34:27what happened to you

00:34:28to the colleague

00:34:29thanks to my colleague

00:34:31that he said

00:34:32bend down

00:34:32The door opened

00:34:33from the bar cabinet

00:34:34and I've made a hand

00:34:35to the gun

00:34:36to shoot

00:34:37against the bar cabinet

00:34:38the incidence

00:34:39it was notified

00:34:39two patrol cars

00:34:40that under the command

00:34:41from the inspector

00:34:41José Pedro Negri

00:34:42They went to the property

00:34:43at full speed

00:34:44the police

00:34:45above all

00:34:45what we need to have

00:34:46are elements

00:34:47of rationality

00:34:48systematic

00:34:48that is to say

00:34:49This man says

00:34:50Well

00:34:50This is that

00:34:51They have prepared for us

00:34:52a contraption

00:34:53behind where

00:34:54There is a crucifix

00:34:54so that the crucifix

00:34:55move

00:34:56Try to go see him

00:34:58the crucifix

00:34:58explodes

00:34:59There is a series

00:35:00of things

00:35:00that to him

00:35:01then

00:35:01They release him

00:35:02explainable

00:35:02clear

00:35:04any explanation

00:35:05It has to have

00:35:11the summary

00:35:12of what happened

00:35:13that early morning

00:35:14at that address

00:35:15it was reflected

00:35:16in an official report

00:35:17What happened?

00:35:17to the annals

00:35:18of history

00:35:18paranormal

00:35:19of our country

00:35:20no other case

00:35:21has surpassed

00:35:22the so-called

00:35:22since then

00:35:24Vallecas file

00:35:25they come to witness

00:35:26a series

00:35:27of phenomena

00:35:27strangers

00:35:28quite disturbing

00:35:29which are reflected

00:35:30in a file

00:35:30police

00:35:31that perhaps

00:35:32It's a case

00:35:33You can call

00:35:34a file

00:35:35X

00:35:35Spanish

00:35:36where are they located

00:35:37those phenomena

00:35:38completely

00:35:39reflected

00:35:39for the past 7 months

00:35:41the Gutierrez family

00:35:42Lazarus

00:35:43has found

00:35:44tranquility

00:35:44after selling his home

00:35:45and move

00:35:46to a new home

00:35:47since

00:35:48we have come

00:35:49January 6

00:35:50to this house

00:35:51this is

00:35:52the sky

00:35:53but

00:35:54would be

00:35:55producing

00:35:56phenomena

00:35:56inexplicable

00:35:57at the old address

00:35:59fourth millennium

00:36:00was able to interview

00:36:01to the new residents

00:36:02of the alleged

00:36:03haunted house

00:36:04Well

00:36:05the lady

00:36:05when

00:36:07he told us

00:36:08that he had died

00:36:09a girl

00:36:10something like that

00:36:10and at night

00:36:13were they listening to something

00:36:14but we

00:36:15we spent

00:36:15nothing

00:36:16us

00:36:17we don't believe

00:36:18of those things

00:36:18and from

00:36:20that

00:36:20you are living

00:36:21here

00:36:21the two couples

00:36:23Fernando

00:36:24nothing strange

00:36:26nothing

00:36:26No

00:36:27not a shadow

00:36:28not a single blow

00:36:29No

00:36:30I don't

00:36:30that I know

00:36:31nothing

00:36:31you can hear

00:36:32So

00:36:32one of the floor

00:36:33above

00:36:33simply

00:36:33the neighbors

00:36:35but

00:36:35strange things

00:36:37the tacos

00:36:38that sound

00:36:38but not

00:36:39the footprints

00:36:40but nothing strange

00:36:54and there will still be

00:36:55whoever follows

00:36:55calling game

00:36:56to the table

00:36:58Ouija

00:36:58the truth is that

00:36:59the victims

00:37:00They number in the dozens

00:37:01in Europe

00:37:02and in the United States

00:37:03in Spain

00:37:04the cases

00:37:04They haven't come out

00:37:06in the public eye

00:37:06these stories

00:37:07are saved

00:37:08jealously

00:37:08and even more

00:37:09when the force

00:37:10security

00:37:10of the state

00:37:11is the one that intervenes

00:37:12José Manuel

00:37:12the extraordinary

00:37:13of this case

00:37:14There's a report

00:37:15so neatly

00:37:16detailed

00:37:17with all the phenomena

00:37:18This is not normal

00:37:18although there have been more cases

00:37:19It's not normal.

00:37:20TRUE

00:37:21I don't know what's happening

00:37:21the thing is

00:37:23the case

00:37:24must have

00:37:24sufficient substance

00:37:25so that they will come

00:37:26no less than two

00:37:27if also

00:37:28among them

00:37:29go, inspector

00:37:30black

00:37:30what is

00:37:32one of those responsible

00:37:33what today

00:37:33we would call the KX1

00:37:34that is to say

00:37:35responsible for an area

00:37:38he does

00:37:38what you have to do

00:37:39that is to say

00:37:39the police intervention

00:37:40which is

00:37:40very simple

00:37:42goes there

00:37:42and then describe

00:37:43in what we

00:37:44we call the part

00:37:44intervention

00:37:45describe what it is

00:37:47has seen

00:37:48ends by saying

00:37:50as a preventative measure

00:37:51what they might say

00:37:52that I'm crazy

00:37:53Of course

00:37:53what I have seen there

00:37:54For me it's absolutely

00:37:55inexplicable

00:37:57but the fact remains

00:37:57It has happened

00:37:58that's all it does

00:37:59to leave a record

00:38:00from what he has experienced

00:38:02which naturally

00:38:04It's a situation

00:38:05who doesn't want to return

00:38:06nor to remember

00:38:07nor to

00:38:08I guess so

00:38:09who doesn't want

00:38:09nor return

00:38:09the family

00:38:10José Manuel

00:38:12he assured

00:38:12that the police

00:38:13He left too

00:38:14logically

00:38:14scared

00:38:15logically

00:38:16freezing

00:38:17out of fear

00:38:17of that

00:38:18that was happening

00:38:18and he never returned

00:38:19really

00:38:20what could be done

00:38:21in this case

00:38:21the family

00:38:22it felt

00:38:22maybe a little

00:38:22helpless

00:38:23but neither

00:38:24the police

00:38:24I could do more

00:38:25perhaps

00:38:25the only thing he can do

00:38:27I imagine

00:38:28that the procedure

00:38:29is the ordinary

00:38:30They call 091

00:38:31because they have

00:38:31a crisis situation

00:38:33we send

00:38:34a patrol

00:38:35the patrol

00:38:36This is just my own speculation.

00:38:37but that's for sure

00:38:38which is very close

00:38:39to what was reality

00:38:40the patrol arrives there

00:38:41see that indeed

00:38:42the matter has

00:38:45importance

00:38:45They say to come

00:38:47other people

00:38:48let him come

00:38:49someone with more responsibility

00:38:51and this one who goes

00:38:51with more responsibility

00:38:52because it is found

00:38:52with all these movements

00:38:54with a crucifix

00:38:55that is turned over

00:38:56then he tries

00:38:57look for an explanation

00:38:58logically

00:38:59one of the jobs

00:39:00of the police

00:39:00It is distrust

00:39:01that is to say

00:39:01Look at you

00:39:02What I see

00:39:03I'm going to

00:39:04so

00:39:05try to see

00:39:06if there is any

00:39:07manipulation mechanism

00:39:08on the crucifix

00:39:11the back of the crucifix

00:39:12can't find it

00:39:14for him

00:39:15There is one thing

00:39:16And that's because

00:39:16has happened

00:39:17even though it has no explanation

00:39:19then he describes it

00:39:19and all other things

00:39:21that he has seen there

00:39:22has described them

00:39:23the accounts

00:39:24He says good

00:39:25Well, now let others come.

00:39:26It's inexplicable to me.

00:39:28Let others come

00:39:28who are the ones who have to investigate

00:39:30And that's it

00:39:30I'm sure he

00:39:31did

00:39:32or they did their part

00:39:34intervention

00:39:34Then they went home

00:39:36and man

00:39:36They will have

00:39:37Why do these things always happen?

00:39:38They leave you a well

00:39:39will have left them a well

00:39:40but really

00:39:41that's what they've done

00:39:42what they had to do

00:39:43a story of this kind

00:39:44José Manuel

00:39:45We've seen it

00:39:46in other forces

00:39:46state security

00:39:47We've seen it

00:39:48in other people

00:39:49obsession

00:39:50I'm not going to say it harms.

00:39:51but it does condition things

00:39:52a person's life

00:39:53who has attended this

00:39:54and that is in an environment

00:39:54where it's difficult to tell

00:39:56This happened in this case

00:39:57as José Manuel also says

00:39:57Yes, it seems that

00:39:59Inspector Negrí

00:40:00that I would like to locate

00:40:01I think that

00:40:02We will locate it soon.

00:40:05It seems he left

00:40:06091

00:40:08Well, I don't know.

00:40:08if for other reasons

00:40:09service

00:40:09but in the same way

00:40:10that there are other things

00:40:11within the police

00:40:12that leave you

00:40:14very marked

00:40:15the seeing

00:40:16a corpse

00:40:17the seeing

00:40:19a murder

00:40:20a terrorist act

00:40:22this

00:40:22It always leaves a mark on you.

00:40:24Do you know that there are

00:40:25within our work

00:40:27There is a maximum

00:40:28And that's when someone

00:40:29intervenes

00:40:29in a situation

00:40:31very hard

00:40:32at least for a while

00:40:34he moves away

00:40:35of that situation

00:40:36that is to say

00:40:36a police officer

00:40:37who has a confrontation

00:40:38on the street

00:40:38and in that confrontation

00:40:40on the street

00:40:40because it gives rise to

00:40:40to which defending

00:40:42has to kill

00:40:43to a person

00:40:43normally

00:40:44for a while

00:40:45It's not there

00:40:46in that same type

00:40:47service

00:40:48that may lead

00:40:49to confrontations

00:40:49on the street

00:40:50because

00:40:50Whether you like it or not

00:40:51always leaves you

00:40:52the head touched

00:40:54one doesn't finish

00:40:54as we would say

00:40:56half grilled

00:40:57with these things

00:40:57Well, I imagine

00:40:58that one

00:40:58than a

00:40:59a situation

00:41:00of this nature

00:41:02It makes him look bad.

00:41:03times two

00:41:04by two paths

00:41:05first

00:41:05due to the situation itself

00:41:06who has lived

00:41:07and second

00:41:08for something more important

00:41:09for him

00:41:10What will my colleagues think?

00:41:12when I put

00:41:12Are these things here?

00:41:13But the thing is

00:41:14I have the obligation

00:41:15of putting them

00:41:16because my job

00:41:17It's about reflecting what I've seen

00:41:18but surely

00:41:19They think I am

00:41:20like a goat

00:41:21I believe

00:41:23which is the minutes

00:41:24in what is the part

00:41:25of occurrences

00:41:26or the incident report

00:41:29There are some

00:41:30aspects

00:41:31which are

00:41:31ellipsis

00:41:32describe one thing

00:41:33and adds ellipses

00:41:35surely

00:41:35because

00:41:36what I meant there

00:41:38he found it

00:41:39too strong

00:41:40too implausible

00:41:41and then

00:41:41I told him

00:41:42I put an ellipsis

00:41:43I suppose an etc.

00:41:44like others

00:41:46we would need to know

00:41:47what did they experience

00:41:48really

00:41:48What did they experience?

00:41:49really?

00:41:50it gives the impression

00:41:50as it says

00:41:51the commissioner

00:41:52head of central district

00:41:53from Madrid

00:41:53José Manuel Sánchez

00:41:54which accompanies today

00:41:55to all the people

00:41:56that you are seeing

00:41:56Fourth Millennium

00:41:57and that is illustrating

00:41:58using police terminology

00:41:59demonstrating that these cases

00:42:00occur

00:42:01that are not a fantasy

00:42:02what did they experience

00:42:03really

00:42:03it gives the impression

00:42:04that were saved

00:42:05things maybe

00:42:06too incredible

00:42:08even for people

00:42:09head

00:42:09in fighting crime

00:42:11and face the strange

00:42:13The recordings are strange.

00:42:14which our team obtained

00:42:15I repeat it

00:42:15I would like two of them to listen.

00:42:17Let's put them in order.

00:42:19It is once again a female voice

00:42:21someone who alludes

00:42:22to a woman

00:42:23It's surprising.

00:42:24I assure you that rarely

00:42:25a television crew

00:42:26has been lucky

00:42:28or misfortune

00:42:29depending on how you look at it

00:42:30at this time of night

00:42:30to run into

00:42:31with this type

00:42:32of foreign insertions

00:42:34of voices that

00:42:35Well

00:42:35I was saying

00:42:36Marco and Edison

00:42:37in their time

00:42:37They wanted to build a device

00:42:39that registered

00:42:40the lost voices

00:42:41in time

00:42:41They are lost voices

00:42:43in time

00:42:43And if they are

00:42:44What are they trying to tell us?

00:42:45Why have they stayed?

00:42:46Those and not others?

00:42:47Why do they say words

00:42:48how to leave her

00:42:49Is she mentally challenged?

00:42:50eye

00:42:51We haven't started yet.

00:42:53So

00:42:53with that tone

00:42:54exactly

00:42:54Let's listen to it

00:43:14maybe things like this

00:43:16Commissioner José Manuel Sánchez

00:43:18they met

00:43:18the police

00:43:19that intervene

00:43:20November 14th

00:43:21from '92

00:43:21in that house

00:43:22already too strange

00:43:24even to put them on

00:43:24in that historical report

00:43:25clear

00:43:26anyway

00:43:27Let me tell you something

00:43:29this

00:43:30the Vallecas case

00:43:32well

00:43:33has come to light

00:43:34but

00:43:35How many Vallecas files

00:43:37Are there any at the police station?

00:43:38That's the question

00:43:38That's the big question

00:43:39that are registered

00:43:40and they are

00:43:41archived

00:43:42there at the end

00:43:42because they haven't had

00:43:43no explanation

00:43:44A file has been created

00:43:45provisional of the matter

00:43:46There has been no

00:43:47no other reference

00:43:48and then

00:43:48Well, it hasn't come out here.

00:43:50because you

00:43:51you have had

00:43:53knowledge of it

00:43:54and you have

00:43:54allow me the expression

00:43:56delved into the matter

00:43:57and you met

00:43:58with a police report

00:43:59because

00:43:59the parents themselves

00:44:01they told you

00:44:01the police intervened

00:44:02and then

00:44:02pulling the thread

00:44:04You already threw them away.

00:44:04but

00:44:04I am sure

00:44:05that at the police station

00:44:06center

00:44:08looking in the file

00:44:09that enormous one we have there

00:44:10along with all the papers

00:44:13or the multitude of papers

00:44:14that there

00:44:15I'm sure there are

00:44:16many parts

00:44:17of occurrences

00:44:18that would take us

00:44:19to very similar situations

00:44:21to what the file is

00:44:22Vallecas

00:44:22but many

00:44:23And it's happening

00:44:24every day

00:44:24and there

00:44:25the other day

00:44:25I was talking to some colleagues

00:44:27and he told me

00:44:29a colleague

00:44:30says

00:44:30Well, something like that

00:44:31It happened on Latina.

00:44:32at the Latina police station

00:44:33and says

00:44:34The thing is that

00:44:34They left the report there.

00:44:36It was filed

00:44:37And that's it

00:44:38because there was no crime

00:44:39There was nothing.

00:44:40The report was then filed away

00:44:41There are other well-known houses

00:44:43by

00:44:44us too

00:44:45we have had

00:44:46all the police chiefs

00:44:47at a meal

00:44:48that we had with the delegate

00:44:49of the government

00:44:49in a well-known palace

00:44:51from Madrid

00:44:52we had a feeling

00:44:53in that style

00:44:53that is to say

00:44:54everyone

00:44:54we have always lived

00:44:55some situation

00:44:55you personally

00:44:56José Manuel

00:44:56She also experienced it

00:44:57that strange feeling

00:44:58In a place

00:44:58which we will talk about one day

00:45:00where many strange things happened

00:45:01I'm sure many

00:45:02of the viewers

00:45:03of fourth millennium

00:45:04especially those who are

00:45:05from Madrid

00:45:05It will sound familiar.

00:45:06the palace of Linares

00:45:08TRUE?

00:45:08with so much fraud

00:45:09And so much truth

00:45:10There was in its day

00:45:11Could we give you a preview?

00:45:12Yeah

00:45:13well

00:45:13we live

00:45:14there is a situation

00:45:14we the commissioners

00:45:15we used to have a meal

00:45:17to which I came

00:45:17the government delegate

00:45:18when it was

00:45:19Pedro Niño Morguades

00:45:20Morguades

00:45:20current children's ombudsman

00:45:22in the Community of Madrid

00:45:23and one day he came

00:45:24the one who was the

00:45:25deputy director

00:45:26I think it was

00:45:26from the Linares Palace

00:45:28to the food

00:45:29with us

00:45:29he said one day

00:45:30I'm going to invite you.

00:45:31dinner everyone

00:45:31and indeed

00:45:33we went there

00:45:34and well

00:45:35well to teach us

00:45:36the things he told us

00:45:37that she told us

00:45:38as a natural thing

00:45:39that is to say

00:45:39as if they were elves

00:45:40with whom he was living

00:45:42It was a little strange for us

00:45:44Well, the fact is...

00:45:45We went there

00:45:46and more or less

00:45:48She came to tell us

00:45:49that day

00:45:49the goblins

00:45:50They were playful

00:45:51with the government delegate

00:45:52believe

00:45:52Pedro Niño Morguades

00:45:53and well

00:45:53We smiled at each other

00:45:54And that's it

00:45:55but the surprise

00:45:55the thing is

00:45:56in how many photos

00:45:57They were made there

00:45:57Don Pedro Niño Morguades

00:45:58We got

00:45:59sometimes

00:46:00because it was veiled

00:46:00just the part of the face

00:46:02in which he was

00:46:03always him

00:46:03only he

00:46:04Everyone is in the photo

00:46:06except him

00:46:06Well, because maybe

00:46:08the candle

00:46:09that was on the table

00:46:10covers his face

00:46:11or because it gets dark

00:46:13a piece of the photograph

00:46:14right where his face is

00:46:15which are coincidences

00:46:17But they're just coincidences.

00:46:18that to us

00:46:18They left us very surprised

00:46:19the strangest place

00:46:20José Manuel

00:46:21where you have been

00:46:23as a police officer

00:46:24as a fellow countryman

00:46:25and that he has felt

00:46:26strange feeling

00:46:27that palace

00:46:28go in there

00:46:29and let them tell you.

00:46:30well the sites

00:46:31where are you

00:46:32a place where dogs

00:46:34that they have to do

00:46:35the inspections

00:46:35police dogs

00:46:36They refused to enter

00:46:37in certain rooms

00:46:38who don't want to enter

00:46:38in a specific area

00:46:39Tomás Navarro was with us.

00:46:41who was then the boss

00:46:42of canine guides

00:46:43from the civil grandfather

00:46:43or let me tell you

00:46:44someone coming in

00:46:46in the sacristy

00:46:46and I heard those noises

00:46:47like the ones you

00:46:48you said at the beginning

00:46:49like those calls

00:46:50And what happens

00:46:51This woman

00:46:52I experienced it with such naturalness

00:46:54that he told us

00:46:56I had to tell him

00:46:57Don't be annoying

00:46:57Stay calm

00:46:58one moment

00:46:58that I am working

00:46:59us

00:47:00that we weren't

00:47:01on this

00:47:02he left us

00:47:04surprised

00:47:04his attitude

00:47:04But she would have it.

00:47:05like any other beings

00:47:07who were there

00:47:07and it gives the impression

00:47:08José Manuel

00:47:08as is the case in this report

00:47:10It's a family

00:47:10She's a girl

00:47:11the protagonist

00:47:12who plays at spiritualism

00:47:13that arrives

00:47:14let's see

00:47:15her teacher

00:47:15and female students

00:47:16how the glass breaks

00:47:17like that evil game

00:47:19It has to be called that.

00:47:20Smoke rises

00:47:20that gets in his mouth

00:47:21and from there

00:47:22the house becomes

00:47:23in hell

00:47:23women almost always

00:47:24protagonists

00:47:25of these stories

00:47:26It's quite curious.

00:47:27TRUE?

00:47:27well, probably

00:47:28greater sensitivity

00:47:29a greater perception

00:47:30We don't know

00:47:31but most cases

00:47:32whether statistics were compiled

00:47:33and in which

00:47:34The police have intervened

00:47:35women protagonists

00:47:37constantly

00:47:37Yeah

00:47:38I remember

00:47:39I don't know if it was

00:47:40from Carabanchel

00:47:41from Latina

00:47:42the comment

00:47:42that made me

00:47:43a colleague

00:47:44and it was also

00:47:45it was also

00:47:46of women

00:47:47both the protagonist

00:47:49like the one who called us

00:47:50us

00:47:51to which I was referring

00:47:52the intervention report

00:47:54police

00:47:54which he was referring to

00:47:55They were also women

00:47:56indeed

00:47:57first of all

00:47:58in fourth millennium

00:47:59we always want

00:47:59give a message

00:48:00precautionary

00:48:01of absolute

00:48:02takeoff

00:48:03of these matters

00:48:03They might be interesting.

00:48:04exciting

00:48:05fascinating

00:48:06We understand

00:48:06but getting into them

00:48:07believing absolute truths

00:48:09that no one can prove

00:48:10may entail

00:48:11disastrous consequences

00:48:12We have seen it in this case

00:48:13a victim

00:48:14a martyr of the mystery

00:48:15Estefanía Gutiérrez Lázaro

00:48:1718 years old

00:48:18I should have today

00:48:2033 years old

00:48:21and is buried

00:48:22many say

00:48:23because of

00:48:24of that game

00:48:25Yes, yes

00:48:26Yes, in German.

00:48:27Yes, in French.

00:48:27Ouija

00:48:28We've all gone to talk

00:48:30from that table

00:48:30that sometimes

00:48:31brings, as I say,

00:48:32these consequences

00:48:33so unexpected

00:48:34We have here José Manuel Svánchez

00:48:35And we've had it.

00:48:36because

00:48:37We want people to know

00:48:38that the security forces

00:48:40many times

00:48:41They encounter these cases

00:48:42occur

00:48:43They are there

00:48:43and are being investigated

00:48:45wait

00:48:46José Manuel

00:48:46that you leave us

00:48:47at some point

00:48:48rummage

00:48:48in those files

00:48:49from the police station

00:48:50center

00:48:50because I'm sure

00:48:51that there are pieces

00:48:52absolutely fabulous

00:48:54at the research level

00:48:54paranormal

00:48:55Let's see if we can do it.

00:48:56without a doubt

00:48:57not only paranormal

00:48:58of another type

00:48:59I have seen documents

00:49:00They attract attention.

00:49:01and safe

00:49:03Of course, I'm no expert.

00:49:04in this

00:49:05on this topic

00:49:06So, many times

00:49:07I don't see it

00:49:07But I'm sure

00:49:08that you

00:49:08that you know much better

00:49:09reading what they are

00:49:11the intervention parties

00:49:12the parts of occurrences

00:49:13you will meet

00:49:13with many situations

00:49:15which indeed

00:49:16would give rise

00:49:17to an investigation

00:49:18We took good note of this.

00:49:19Thank you very much, José Manuel.

00:49:20for this first visit

00:49:21to Fourth Millennium

00:49:21We're counting on you.

00:49:22of course

00:49:23of course

00:49:23because he is a true specialist

00:49:25in the sense of communication

00:49:27of the information

00:49:28and sometimes

00:49:29bearing witness

00:49:30that he himself

00:49:31has suffered

00:49:32has not suffered

00:49:32has experienced

00:49:33those truly strange phenomena

00:49:35which are more common

00:49:37from what it seems

00:49:37so common

00:49:38even the cinema

00:49:39many times

00:49:39has embodied them

00:49:40on celluloid

00:49:41has built films

00:49:42stories that have been

00:49:43big box office hits

00:49:44Others passed without fanfare or recognition

00:49:45but haunted houses

00:49:47and the police

00:49:47They were the main protagonists

00:49:49many times

00:49:49from the big screen

00:49:50stories

00:49:51that's sure

00:49:52You remember very well

00:50:15what the movies tell us

00:50:17there is no doubt

00:50:17It's very spectacular.

00:50:18however

00:50:19I sincerely believe

00:50:20that reality

00:50:20always surpasses

00:50:21any fiction

00:50:22an example of this

00:50:23in this case

00:50:24the one from the house of noises

00:50:26It happened in Madrid

00:50:26and appeared on several covers

00:50:28from the newspapers

00:50:29after

00:50:30as almost always

00:50:31It was completely forgotten

00:50:32another authentic file

00:50:34X Carmen

00:50:34good night

00:50:35good night

00:50:36Yes, indeed.

00:50:37in 1977

00:50:39on Toboso Street in Madrid

00:50:42in issue number 73

00:50:42in the Carabanchel neighborhood

00:50:44production began

00:50:46a series of unusual phenomena

00:50:48that had the whole neighborhood

00:50:49shuddered

00:50:50at Luis Antúnez's house

00:50:52and Maria Delgado

00:50:53which also

00:50:54They had a mentally disabled boy.

00:50:56under your charge

00:50:56Mauricio

00:50:57they began to move

00:50:59the furniture

00:50:59televisions

00:51:00They went out through the corridor

00:51:02the closets

00:51:03they opened

00:51:03and they closed

00:51:04and the light bulbs

00:51:05they unscrewed

00:51:06all of this

00:51:07without anyone

00:51:07I could give them an explanation

00:51:09even

00:51:09And you are seeing it.

00:51:10a series of strange knocks

00:51:12caused by invisible hands

00:51:13apparently

00:51:14they produced

00:51:15major damage

00:51:17all this

00:51:17with the family inside

00:51:18and with more than 500 people

00:51:20of the entire block

00:51:21who refused to go up

00:51:22to those homes

00:51:23on the other hand

00:51:24very humble

00:51:25and quite deteriorated

00:51:26in the end

00:51:27even takes matters into his own hands

00:51:28in the matter

00:51:29Carmen

00:51:29the Carabanchel police station

00:51:30Mariano Gómez García

00:51:32the one who at that time

00:51:33He was the chief commissioner

00:51:34of the district

00:51:34from Carabanchel

00:51:35He commissioned two investigations

00:51:37from one of them

00:51:38took charge

00:51:38the Madrid City Council

00:51:39what he said

00:51:40those noises

00:51:40those displacements

00:51:41of objects

00:51:42could be due

00:51:43to the nearby construction work

00:51:44that were

00:51:45performing

00:51:45on the subway

00:51:46besides

00:51:47There was the Spanish Society

00:51:48of Parapsychology

00:51:49what he said

00:51:50after being

00:51:51several days

00:51:52at home

00:51:53living together

00:51:53with this family

00:51:54that something paranormal

00:51:55This could be happening

00:51:56but neither

00:51:57They ruled out the possibility

00:51:58that Mauricio

00:51:59that troubled young man

00:52:01could be doing

00:52:02a fraud

00:52:03the press said

00:52:04of the time

00:52:04when Mauricio

00:52:05He's bored

00:52:06the house

00:52:07trembles

00:52:08no more, no less

00:52:08and in the end

00:52:09as we say

00:52:09utter oblivion

00:52:11by the way

00:52:12that in that humble dwelling

00:52:13There were psychophonic recordings

00:52:14of the first ones obtained

00:52:15in Spain

00:52:16what they said

00:52:17upon being heard

00:52:19something like

00:52:19I'm afraid

00:52:21documents that put

00:52:22chicken meat

00:52:23there is no doubt

00:52:24documents such as those

00:52:25you friends

00:52:26from Fourth Millennium

00:52:27They are sending us

00:52:28We are very grateful

00:52:29because we have received

00:52:30hundreds of photographs

00:52:31filming

00:52:32recordings

00:52:33fascinating material

00:52:34which to investigate

00:52:36which to investigate

00:52:37Carmen

00:52:38material like that

00:52:39which almost scares me

00:52:40until it gives way

00:52:40It's shocking

00:52:42this image

00:52:43that he has sent us

00:52:44José Fajardo

00:52:44They were one afternoon

00:52:46in a house

00:52:46that they have

00:52:47in a town

00:52:48as you can see

00:52:48along with them

00:52:50along with these two people

00:52:52There is a television

00:52:53It was turned off

00:52:54at those moments

00:52:55But if our viewers

00:52:57they contemplate

00:52:57stare at the image

00:52:59They're going to realize

00:52:59that there are three women

00:53:01elderly women

00:53:01on that television

00:53:02we have sent

00:53:04this image

00:53:04to our IT analyst

00:53:06to Guillermo León

00:53:07and what he has ruled out

00:53:08full

00:53:08It's photographic manipulation.

00:53:11says that television

00:53:13It should have been turned off

00:53:14because they are not observed

00:53:16sweep bands or lines

00:53:17which would be typical

00:53:18from a television signal

00:53:19There's no plot either.

00:53:21nor any logo

00:53:23that refers

00:53:24that at that moment

00:53:25was being broadcast

00:53:26For example

00:53:27a movie

00:53:28however

00:53:29There's even a detail

00:53:30that makes you think

00:53:31that that could be paranormal

00:53:32Carmen

00:53:32the gaze

00:53:33of those three old women

00:53:34a disturbing gaze

00:53:36of the two old women

00:53:37from the ends

00:53:38that converge

00:53:39on the face

00:53:40of the little girl

00:53:41we don't know

00:53:41what were they referring to

00:53:42and we should have

00:53:43what is

00:53:44the photographic negative

00:53:46to obtain

00:53:47more information

00:53:47about this image

00:53:49We're talking about documents.

00:53:50noise

00:53:51and of phenomena

00:53:51And as always

00:53:52There are two ways

00:53:52essentials

00:53:53so that people

00:53:54get in touch

00:53:55with Fourth Millennium

00:53:56and we can investigate

00:53:57and investigate

00:53:57on these matters

00:53:58so fascinating

00:53:59We have those two options.

00:54:00contact

00:54:01one is through

00:54:02from the email

00:54:02on CuartoMilenio

00:54:03at4.com

00:54:05and the other

00:54:06through

00:54:06of traditional mail

00:54:07on Gran Vía street

00:54:09number 32

00:54:10third floor

00:54:1128013 Madrid

00:54:12to the attention

00:54:13of course

00:54:14from his program

00:54:15Fourth Millennium

00:54:15By the way, Carmen

00:54:16that we were talking about

00:54:17of strange noises

00:54:18noise

00:54:19difficult to explain

00:54:20someone who played

00:54:21Those noises are great

00:54:22and converted them

00:54:23in prodigious music

00:54:24He was a genius

00:54:25whose skull

00:54:26I was until now

00:54:28missing

00:54:29we talk about

00:54:30we talk about

00:54:31Ludwig van Beethoven

00:54:32one of the composers

00:54:33most famous

00:54:34along

00:54:35of all history

00:54:36two fragments

00:54:37which can be

00:54:38his skull

00:54:39have been discovered

00:54:39now

00:54:40and have been compared

00:54:41with some hair

00:54:43that they had

00:54:43at the foundation

00:54:44Beethoven

00:54:45apparently

00:54:46these two fragments

00:54:47were extracted

00:54:49in the exhumation

00:54:50that was done

00:54:51of Beethoven's body

00:54:52in 1863

00:54:54Iker

00:54:54now

00:54:55DNA analysis

00:54:56has given as true

00:54:57those fragments

00:54:59besides

00:54:59There's another news story

00:55:00about this composer

00:55:01a mysterious manuscript

00:55:03they said that

00:55:04the last great song

00:55:05by Beethoven

00:55:05and the figure that is set

00:55:07on sale

00:55:07is astronomical

00:55:08Well, the truth is

00:55:09Yes

00:55:10December 1st

00:55:11It's going on sale

00:55:12in the gallery

00:55:13auctions

00:55:14Sotheby's

00:55:15a manuscript

00:55:16that contains

00:55:16one of the largest

00:55:17Beethoven compositions

00:55:19the great escape

00:55:20in B-flat major

00:55:21in piano version

00:55:23I was lost

00:55:24in a closet

00:55:26from the suburbs

00:55:27from Philadelphia

00:55:28in a religious seminary

00:55:29and by chance

00:55:30as always happens

00:55:31these things

00:55:32has been achieved

00:55:33obtain that manuscript

00:55:34speaking of

00:55:35stories and mysteries

00:55:36of religion

00:55:37exorcisms

00:55:38they return

00:55:38to be protagonists

00:55:39of the present

00:55:40It seems unbelievable

00:55:41in this 21st century

00:55:41the evil one

00:55:43Beelzebub Satan

00:55:44apparently

00:55:45He is with us

00:55:46That's what he thinks

00:55:47the Vatican

00:55:47with the courses

00:55:48of exorcism

00:55:49that up to now

00:55:50they were only

00:55:51for priests

00:55:52now they have been expanded

00:55:53And they are also the scientists.

00:55:54psychiatrists

00:55:55psychologists

00:55:56those who can attend

00:55:57them

00:55:57paying 300 euros

00:55:59they can know

00:56:00how to recognize the symptoms

00:56:01of a possessed person

00:56:02of a possessed man

00:56:03how to treat

00:56:04to these alleged

00:56:05possessed

00:56:07and how to find out

00:56:08the story

00:56:08of Satanism

00:56:09from its inception

00:56:10by the way

00:56:11that Samsonism

00:56:12immense strength

00:56:13and speak languages

00:56:14strange

00:56:14or synogloss

00:56:15I think they were

00:56:16one of the pieces

00:56:17keys

00:56:17to know

00:56:18if anything is

00:56:18obsession

00:56:19Or so they said

00:56:20possession

00:56:21by the way

00:56:21I do not confirm this

00:56:22He says so

00:56:23Gabriel Amort

00:56:24official exorcist

00:56:25from the Vatican

00:56:25we go much further back

00:56:27Carmen

00:56:27until prehistory

00:56:28We have to travel

00:56:29115 million

00:56:31from years ago

00:56:32and then

00:56:33we will meet

00:56:33with two dinosaurs

00:56:35which have now been

00:56:35discovered in Morella

00:56:37in Castellón

00:56:38They are a species

00:56:39unique

00:56:39Iker

00:56:40especially also

00:56:41because they have been discovered

00:56:42two copies

00:56:43with all its joints

00:56:45and it is not

00:56:46the only discovery

00:56:47paleontological

00:56:48that has been done

00:56:49this week

00:56:50also in Argentina

00:56:51has been discovered

00:56:52a dinosaur

00:56:53with head

00:56:54crocodile

00:56:54and fishtail

00:56:56creatures

00:56:56from the abyss

00:56:57creatures

00:56:58from distant time

00:56:59Some say that

00:57:00were able to live together

00:57:01with human beings

00:57:02I know it sounds far-fetched

00:57:03But let me

00:57:04that gives way

00:57:04to this legend

00:57:05the legend

00:57:06of the city

00:57:06timeless

00:57:07of a culture

00:57:08about which nothing is known

00:57:08nothing

00:57:08who lived very close by

00:57:10from Lake Titicaca

00:57:11It's a place I know.

00:57:13and that is mysterious

00:57:14and endearing

00:57:15Tiaguanaco

00:57:16now we will be able to find out

00:57:18the intricacies

00:57:19of this pyramid

00:57:20Bolivian

00:57:21Thanks to Robotage

00:57:22a robot

00:57:23that has been done

00:57:24specifically

00:57:25to enter

00:57:25in the tunnels

00:57:27where allegedly

00:57:28Iker

00:57:28rituals were performed

00:57:30and strange rituals

00:57:31not in Bolivia

00:57:32but in Spain

00:57:33were produced

00:57:34also very close by

00:57:35from the border

00:57:36between France

00:57:36and Navarre

00:57:37there in a village

00:57:39which I'm sure sounds familiar.

00:57:40Zugarramurdi

00:57:40were burned

00:57:42many witches

00:57:42were accused

00:57:44of making a pact with the devil

00:57:45and they happened

00:57:46many things

00:57:47I invite you

00:57:48from fourth millennium

00:57:49to try to get to know

00:57:50what happened

00:57:51and how is life today

00:57:52in Zugarramurdi

00:57:53the village

00:57:54of the witches

00:57:55of the witches

00:58:46one night

00:58:48how are you

00:58:48but from 400 years ago

00:58:50several women

00:58:51They were burned alive

00:58:52they came

00:58:53from the village

00:58:54Navarre

00:58:54from Zugarramurdi

00:58:55They accused them

00:58:56of making pacts

00:58:57with the evil one

00:58:59carry out

00:58:59children's knowledge

00:59:01unearth

00:59:01to the deceased

00:59:02or even

00:59:03drinking human blood

00:59:04since that trial

00:59:06which was very well-known

00:59:06this small town

00:59:08was watched

00:59:09tightly

00:59:09by the authorities

00:59:10of the Inquisition

00:59:11the Holy Office

00:59:12I thought it was

00:59:13a cursed place

00:59:14It's curious.

00:59:15because four centuries later

00:59:16in this same location

00:59:17they rafted

00:59:18a museum

00:59:19of anthropology

00:59:20and witchcraft

00:59:20It gives the impression

00:59:22that the long shadow

00:59:23of the sorceress

00:59:24never leaves

00:59:25of these mountains

00:59:26I invite you

00:59:27to a trip

00:59:27to the village

00:59:28of the witches

00:59:29to Zugarramurdi

00:59:33tonight

00:59:34it's darker

00:59:34that never

00:59:36the north wind

00:59:37penetrates to the deepest part

00:59:39forest

00:59:39and here

00:59:40in solitude

00:59:41from the mountains

00:59:42the moon seems

00:59:43still maintain

00:59:44the spell

00:59:45who once held

00:59:46on which they trod

00:59:47this land

00:59:49During the day it's just

00:59:51one more wasteland

00:59:52but when the sun

00:59:53is hidden

00:59:54and we walked

00:59:54through its entrails

00:59:55we are aware

00:59:57that here

00:59:58centuries ago

00:59:59were carried out

01:00:00macabre ceremonies

01:00:02in honor of Satan

01:00:09basically a coven

01:00:10which is a word

01:00:12accepted

01:00:13in the dictionary

01:00:14of the Castilian language

01:00:15It's a word

01:00:16of Basque origin

01:00:17compound

01:00:17which would mean

01:00:18literally

01:00:20they say

01:00:21which would mean

01:00:22literally

01:00:22meadow of the male goat

01:00:23or the goat's meadow

01:00:24because it is supposed

01:00:25which was the meeting

01:00:26of the witches

01:00:27with the devil

01:00:27I mean

01:00:28the inherent

01:00:29to be a witch

01:00:30was to serve

01:00:30to hell with it

01:00:33except for the old texts

01:00:35of the Holy Inquisition

01:00:36We know little or nothing

01:00:37about the world

01:00:38of the witches

01:00:39for some

01:00:40these malevolent ones

01:00:41witches

01:00:42They were the heiresses

01:00:43of ancient traditions

01:00:44pagans

01:00:45for others

01:00:46simply

01:00:47It was

01:00:48of servants

01:00:49of the devil

01:00:50of which there is no doubt

01:00:52It's that here

01:00:53in the land of Navarre

01:00:54bordering France

01:00:55that is known

01:00:56like the Bastán Valley

01:00:57that was where the greatest power

01:00:59and notoriety

01:01:00they reached

01:01:02initially

01:01:03to the witch

01:01:04the witch was

01:01:05a character

01:01:05usually solitary

01:01:07besides

01:01:07was the person

01:01:08altruistic

01:01:09excellent

01:01:10because I had

01:01:11more knowledge

01:01:12that the common

01:01:13of the people

01:01:14because she was the one who

01:01:15normally it was used

01:01:16when there were problems

01:01:17It was the typical

01:01:18boat

01:01:18was the person

01:01:20which was resorted to

01:01:21when a person

01:01:22I was sick

01:01:23and there was no way out

01:01:24that disease

01:01:25was the person

01:01:26which was resorted to

01:01:27because when the harvests

01:01:28They're doing badly.

01:01:29time

01:01:30It doesn't accompany either

01:01:32and listen

01:01:32you'll know.

01:01:33of some prayer

01:01:34or something like that

01:01:37the witch hunt

01:01:38most important

01:01:39that has never happened

01:01:40in our country

01:01:41took place

01:01:42in Zucaramurzi

01:01:43other name

01:01:44spun now forever

01:01:45to this dark topic

01:01:47more than 300 neighbors

01:01:49were accused

01:01:50for practicing

01:01:51all kinds

01:01:51of macabre rituals

01:01:53from worship

01:01:54to hell with it

01:01:54even cannibalism

01:01:56the stage

01:01:57of those ceremonies

01:01:58were these caves

01:02:00near the village

01:02:02cursed caves

01:02:03for which still

01:02:04today is taking place

01:02:05a small stream

01:02:06the river of hell

01:02:07under the spell

01:02:09of the moon

01:02:09illuminated

01:02:10by the light of the fire

01:02:11a large part

01:02:12of the neighbors

01:02:13from Zucaramurdi

01:02:13took an active part

01:02:15in those witches' sabbaths

01:02:18so

01:02:18He is surrounded

01:02:20what is

01:02:20what attracts the most

01:02:21attention

01:02:22of the witches' sabbath

01:02:22of a paraphernalia

01:02:25magic

01:02:25Satanic

01:02:27magic

01:02:28people who are

01:02:29metamorphose

01:02:30they become

01:02:31in animals

01:02:31that are flying

01:02:34on broomsticks

01:02:34that are about animals

01:02:35that they have

01:02:37sexual relations

01:02:38with demons

01:02:39that children eat

01:02:41raw

01:02:41that they unearth

01:02:42corpses

01:02:43who make potions

01:02:44with which

01:02:44then they poison

01:02:46the fields

01:02:46They kill their neighbor

01:02:47the power of witches

01:02:49It was always based

01:02:50in knowledge

01:02:51ancestral that they had

01:02:52of nature

01:02:53a forbidden knowledge

01:02:55that was only transmitted

01:02:56among them

01:02:57their concoctions

01:02:58and ointments

01:02:59They were powerful drugs

01:03:01capable of nullifying

01:03:02the will

01:03:03of those who attended

01:03:04to their ceremonies

01:03:05So

01:03:06they became

01:03:07in authentic

01:03:08slaves

01:03:08subjected

01:03:09to the sorceress

01:03:10herbs such as

01:03:12the mandrake

01:03:12the extra-monument

01:03:13or the Veleño

01:03:15mixed in a

01:03:16convenient

01:03:16were capable

01:03:18to provoke

01:03:18among its followers

01:03:19altered states

01:03:20of conscience

01:03:21that made them believe

01:03:22that had been

01:03:23in the very

01:03:24gates of hell

01:03:27and it exists

01:03:28an anecdote

01:03:30we could say so

01:03:31of a group

01:03:32of German chemists

01:03:34that they experienced

01:03:34with a recipe

01:03:35preserved

01:03:36in a text

01:03:37of the 16th century

01:03:39they prepared

01:03:39that ointment

01:03:40that supposed

01:03:41ointment

01:03:41of witches

01:03:42They administered it to him

01:03:43and they saw

01:03:44that all

01:03:45the sensations

01:03:47that they described

01:03:48the witches

01:03:49in the processes

01:03:50inquisitorial

01:03:50and in the trials

01:03:52to those who went

01:03:52subjected

01:03:53all those feelings

01:03:55they experienced them

01:03:56themselves

01:03:56therefore

01:03:57these ointments

01:03:58what the witches

01:03:59They said they were experimenting

01:04:00It was true

01:04:00which was not true

01:04:02was that they were

01:04:02in presence

01:04:03of the devil

01:04:04but

01:04:05those were the sensations

01:04:06that produced

01:04:07all these alkaloids

01:04:08at the system level

01:04:09central nervous system

01:04:22as we were able to verify

01:04:23the truly mysterious

01:04:25of the world

01:04:25of witchcraft

01:04:26in Zugarramurti

01:04:27It's that legends

01:04:28and impossible deeds

01:04:29they transferred

01:04:30the borders

01:04:31weather

01:04:32until we arrive

01:04:32to the present

01:04:33in the 21st century

01:04:35There are quite a few of them.

01:04:36the neighbors

01:04:37from this place

01:04:38those who narrate

01:04:39surprising facts

01:04:40that one day

01:04:40they succeeded him

01:04:42them

01:04:42or their families

01:04:45aunt

01:04:45he told his niece

01:04:47This is something

01:04:48of witchcraft

01:04:48we're going to crouch down

01:04:49Let's pray

01:04:50three Hail Marys

01:04:51and this will disappear

01:04:52then they crouched down

01:04:53They looked at the ground

01:04:54They prayed three Hail Marys

01:04:55and when they lifted

01:04:56the view

01:04:57had disappeared

01:04:59That bramble bush already

01:05:00and they came to the village

01:05:02and they spoke

01:05:03with Don Felipe

01:05:03I to Don Felipe

01:05:04Yes, I have met him.

01:05:05who was one

01:05:06of the priests

01:05:07from Zugarramurti

01:05:07and Don Felipe

01:05:09he told them

01:05:10these things

01:05:11occur

01:05:12But they shouldn't be counted.

01:05:14the conviction

01:05:15that the spells

01:05:16of the witches

01:05:17are still

01:05:18a resounding reality

01:05:19That's what it does

01:05:20that in Zugarramurti

01:05:21we can find

01:05:22various amulets

01:05:23hanging on the door

01:05:24of many houses

01:05:25There they are

01:05:26as if time

01:05:28had not passed

01:05:29defying power

01:05:30of black magic

01:05:31the most used

01:05:33They are the dark head

01:05:34of a male goat

01:05:35known as the

01:05:37Akerbelz

01:05:37or the Eguski Loren

01:05:39or Flower of the Sun

01:05:40the latter

01:05:41it is usually put

01:05:42on the lintel

01:05:43from the main door

01:05:44of the house

01:05:45because they claim

01:05:46that its thorns

01:05:47They are poisonous

01:05:48for the witches

01:05:49It's clear.

01:05:50that the courts

01:05:51of the Holy Inquisition

01:05:52they physically ended

01:05:54with them

01:05:54but not with their

01:05:56spells

01:05:57or with his memory

01:05:58even today

01:05:59many neighbors

01:06:00from Zugarramurti

01:06:01are still capable

01:06:02to recite from memory

01:06:03some of his spells

01:06:29The sunset comes again

01:06:31to the Bazán Valley

01:06:32the dark and dense night

01:06:34wraps once more

01:06:36to Zugarramurti

01:06:37through its streets

01:06:39now lonely

01:06:40echoes of voices

01:06:42from another time

01:06:42seem to resonate

01:06:44from nothing

01:06:45who knows

01:06:46perhaps the spirit

01:06:48of those women

01:06:49that one day

01:06:50disappeared

01:06:51in darkness

01:06:52stay alive

01:06:53of what we believe

01:07:03It goes beyond the footprint

01:07:05and they burn

01:07:05these witches

01:07:06by

01:07:07pay close attention

01:07:08to deny God

01:07:10blaspheme

01:07:11pay tribute

01:07:12to hell with it

01:07:13worship

01:07:14and sacrifice

01:07:15in his honor

01:07:16offer the children

01:07:18kill them

01:07:18before baptism

01:07:20consecrate them

01:07:21to Satan

01:07:21still in the womb

01:07:22from their mothers

01:07:23kill them

01:07:24to make decoctions

01:07:25eating human flesh

01:07:27drink blood

01:07:28and unearth

01:07:29to the dead

01:07:29the hammer

01:07:31of the witches

01:07:3115th century

01:07:33essential book

01:07:34to understand

01:07:34the phenomenon

01:07:35that we are investigating

01:07:36and says

01:07:38to hit

01:07:39to the witches

01:07:40and his heresies

01:07:41with powerful

01:07:42mace

01:07:43We are accompanied by

01:07:44Marre and Bueno

01:07:45Doctor of Pharmacy

01:07:47specialized

01:07:47in what was

01:07:48the use

01:07:49of certain

01:07:50herbs

01:07:50of certain botany

01:07:51in the world

01:07:52of the mystery

01:07:53Marre

01:07:54This was real

01:07:55This was objectively

01:07:56what they did

01:07:57the witches

01:07:57or was it the mind

01:07:58disturbed

01:07:59of some inquisitors

01:08:00enacting laws

01:08:01to capture them

01:08:01Okay, the list

01:08:03so impressive

01:08:04that you have read

01:08:04That's a product.

01:08:05of the disturbed mind

01:08:07of the inquisitors

01:08:07It was usually based

01:08:09in a whole series

01:08:09of knowledge

01:08:10and of traditions

01:08:11pagans

01:08:12that had evolved

01:08:13throughout the Middle Ages

01:08:14and that they

01:08:15they used

01:08:15in a way

01:08:16exhaustive

01:08:17to pursue

01:08:18to all types

01:08:18of women

01:08:18you have done

01:08:20your latest book

01:08:20your latest study

01:08:21is called

01:08:22the cursed books

01:08:23fascinating topic

01:08:23I don't know this.

01:08:24if it turns out

01:08:25a cursed book

01:08:25But it was the manual.

01:08:27absolutely essential

01:08:28to attack

01:08:29these women

01:08:30What difference was there?

01:08:31Marre among sorceresses

01:08:32which I believe

01:08:33they are more or less

01:08:35respected

01:08:36those that make filters

01:08:37and the real witches

01:08:39who worshipped the devil?

01:08:40Let's say the witches

01:08:41they were acting for themselves

01:08:42It was a pact

01:08:43that they had established

01:08:44with the devil

01:08:45according to what they tell us

01:08:46the inquisitors

01:08:47and that they used it

01:08:48for their own benefit

01:08:49while the sorceresses

01:08:51They used all of this type

01:08:52of knowledge

01:08:52that grazed

01:08:53and they went right in

01:08:54in black magic

01:08:55as it was understood

01:08:56at the moment

01:08:56because the witches

01:08:58They used it

01:08:58for the others

01:08:59they

01:09:00Let's put it this way

01:09:01They were like professionals

01:09:03of black magic

01:09:04They sold their services

01:09:05elaborating

01:09:06Well, all kinds

01:09:07of curses

01:09:09to act

01:09:10against persons

01:09:10or love potions

01:09:12to get love

01:09:13of heartthrobs

01:09:13at the time

01:09:14it gives us the impression

01:09:15that Spain

01:09:16It is the country

01:09:17where the inquisition

01:09:17He committed more atrocities

01:09:18But that's not the case.

01:09:19it seems that

01:09:20in other European countries

01:09:21who have stayed

01:09:21with a better reputation

01:09:23that we

01:09:23There were many more witches

01:09:25burns

01:09:25beheaded

01:09:26how they killed each other

01:09:27usually

01:09:27these women

01:09:28Did they have any special punishment?

01:09:29Yes, usually

01:09:30It is said that torture

01:09:32is the one that created

01:09:33witchcraft

01:09:34they were subjected

01:09:35to all types

01:09:36of torture

01:09:38indescribable

01:09:39and read them

01:09:40It's like

01:09:40a museum

01:09:42of the horrors

01:09:42read that type

01:09:44of torture

01:09:44to which they were subjected

01:09:45to get

01:09:47that they declared

01:09:48that really

01:09:49had established

01:09:49a demonic pact

01:09:50and once

01:09:51that they had declared

01:09:52then he subjected them

01:09:53to the stake

01:09:54It was the usual way

01:09:55to kill them

01:09:55there always exists

01:09:57the tradition

01:09:57that Spain

01:09:58because of the Black Legend

01:10:00that we carry

01:10:00for 4 or 5 centuries

01:10:02It is always said

01:10:03which was Spain

01:10:04the one with the most witches

01:10:04led to the bonfire

01:10:06And it's a lie.

01:10:06it is calculated

01:10:08This is very difficult

01:10:08to estimate

01:10:09But historians

01:10:10they calculate

01:10:10that they took

01:10:11to the bonfires

01:10:12around 100,000 people

01:10:14of which

01:10:1540,000

01:10:16Pay attention to what I'm telling you.

01:10:17They were executed

01:10:19in Germany

01:10:21executions

01:10:21who were

01:10:22terrible images

01:10:24that marked an era

01:10:25I'm remembering

01:10:26right now

01:10:26a story

01:10:27that they told us

01:10:27very recently

01:10:28in Toledo

01:10:28one of the last

01:10:30Toledo witches

01:10:30burned alive

01:10:32Catalina Sánchez

01:10:34they assured

01:10:34the witnesses

01:10:35that were presented

01:10:35in the trial

01:10:36that they saw her making a pact

01:10:37with the devil

01:10:38in a church

01:10:39she left

01:10:40a species

01:10:41of coins

01:10:42at the four corners

01:10:43of that sacred temple

01:10:44and in the middle of the night

01:10:45I expected that

01:10:46something appeared

01:10:48mysteriously

01:10:49the witnesses

01:10:50that they accessed

01:10:51to the trial

01:10:51They said they had seen him

01:10:52had seen

01:10:53a species

01:10:54of dark pork

01:10:55or of a male goat

01:10:56that was approaching

01:10:58and that it arrived

01:10:58to dialogue

01:10:59with human voice

01:10:59with this witch

01:11:00This is

01:11:01in the processes

01:11:02officers

01:11:02of the Inquisition

01:11:03Toledo

01:11:04Let's talk

01:11:05Now, if you're okay with it

01:11:05of magical plants

01:11:06one of your specialties

01:11:08as a pharmacist

01:11:08an exciting world

01:11:10Strange things were being seen

01:11:11There were trips

01:11:12hallucinatory

01:11:13Let's begin

01:11:14if you like

01:11:14listening

01:11:15to a reporter

01:11:17pro

01:11:17to a man

01:11:19head

01:11:19in filming

01:11:20all that they are

01:11:21the jungles

01:11:21of South America

01:11:22It's Juan José Revenga

01:11:24and tells us

01:11:24your experience

01:11:25with one of those

01:11:26witches' herbs

01:11:27which seems

01:11:28They open the door

01:11:29to another world

01:11:29ayahuasca

01:11:31or dead man's rope

01:11:36ayahuasca

01:11:37means

01:11:37dead man's rope

01:11:38in Quechua

01:11:39This gives us an idea

01:11:40of what we are going to see

01:11:41She is the queen

01:11:42of the sacred plants

01:11:43but the sacred plants

01:11:44They are the oldest

01:11:45hallucinogens that exist

01:11:46such as

01:11:47this

01:11:48that flavor

01:11:49when it hits you

01:11:49through the throat

01:11:50it falls on you

01:11:51And it's like you've stepped inside

01:11:53the end of the world inside

01:11:54everything starts to get chaotic

01:11:55that after all

01:11:56Let us never forget

01:11:57which is a poison

01:11:57one of the poisons

01:11:58more powerful than exist

01:12:00everything starts to get chaotic

01:12:01the first half

01:12:02which is now very bad

01:12:03Then things calm down

01:12:05with the shaman's henchmen

01:12:06the chants

01:12:07blows smoke at you

01:12:08He throws Florida Water on you

01:12:10and well

01:12:10more or less

01:12:11you're taking it

01:12:12ayahuasca

01:12:12They used it

01:12:13primitive peoples

01:12:14in principle

01:12:15It was to watch the wars

01:12:16to see if they should

01:12:17to attack the enemy

01:12:18to see the future

01:12:19the past

01:12:20That was the beginning

01:12:21Where have we ended up now?

01:12:22we have arrived

01:12:23that people

01:12:24travel to the jungle

01:12:24to the upper Amazon

01:12:25to be placed

01:12:26ayahuasca

01:12:27It transports you to other worlds

01:12:29It takes you to other places

01:12:30But it is also deadly.

01:12:32in order to travel

01:12:33You have to be

01:12:34on the edge of the knife

01:12:35between life and death

01:12:36That's the moment

01:12:37in which you travel

01:12:38and you can see other things

01:12:39can go from being

01:12:40the best experience

01:12:42of your life

01:12:42to be the worst

01:12:44how demons

01:12:45They approach the witches

01:12:47after use

01:12:48of certain magical plants

01:12:50mandrake

01:12:52Veleño

01:12:53belladonna

01:12:53distant names

01:12:55for those of us who don't know

01:12:56this matter

01:12:57Marto

01:12:58as a pharmacist

01:12:59as a doctor of pharmacy

01:13:00You know perfectly well

01:13:01the properties

01:13:02of each of these plants

01:13:02Was it a big exaggeration?

01:13:03or are they really dangerous plants

01:13:05that grant access

01:13:06to other states

01:13:07altered consciousness?

01:13:08They are very dangerous plants

01:13:10that act at the level

01:13:10of the central nervous system

01:13:12and cause

01:13:13all kinds of hallucinations

01:13:14it was traditionally thought

01:13:16which was an invention

01:13:17of the witches

01:13:18and that they really flew

01:13:19and they really did come

01:13:20to the witches' sabbaths

01:13:21with the male goats

01:13:22and all these stories

01:13:23the reality is that

01:13:24with these plants

01:13:25these recipes

01:13:26some that have endured

01:13:27throughout history

01:13:28several German scientists

01:13:30They conducted experiments

01:13:31and they verified

01:13:32that they experienced

01:13:33in their own flesh

01:13:34all the sensations

01:13:35that they told us

01:13:36the witches

01:13:36in the inquisitorial processes

01:13:38So they were counting

01:13:39a true fact

01:13:40Which plant would it be?

01:13:41You have several sheets there

01:13:42I'm going to tell them

01:13:43friends of the fourth millennium

01:13:44This is very interesting.

01:13:44that in the 21st century

01:13:46where everything is available

01:13:48quite easily

01:13:49It has been almost impossible for us

01:13:50Well, impossible.

01:13:51obtain the plants physically

01:13:52Marra there is a hermetic world

01:13:54around these poisonous plants

01:13:55It's not that easy.

01:13:56access them

01:13:57It remains a closed world

01:13:59a rather private hunting ground

01:14:00Which one would be the most used

01:14:02Because of Spanish witches?

01:14:04Let's call it that

01:14:04Well, look at the ones here.

01:14:05we must begin by saying

01:14:06which are clearly plants

01:14:07We are in a time

01:14:08that does not flower

01:14:09obviously

01:14:10So it's complicated.

01:14:11find these plants

01:14:13They are also very dangerous plants.

01:14:15whose use has to be made

01:14:18following some patterns

01:14:19very determined

01:14:20and by highly skilled people

01:14:21any of these plants

01:14:23around 30, 40, 50 grams

01:14:26from one of these plants

01:14:27can cause death

01:14:28of a human being

01:14:29therefore

01:14:30It's not a thing

01:14:31that can circulate

01:14:32and may be subject

01:14:34handling

01:14:35and well

01:14:36It's a dangerous thing.

01:14:37of all the ones here

01:14:38There is one that is particularly interesting.

01:14:40What is mandrake?

01:14:42the mandrake

01:14:43which has a whole legend

01:14:44around her

01:14:45the way to collect it

01:14:46It was said that he had

01:14:47its rhizome

01:14:48is characteristic

01:14:49It has an anthropomorphic shape

01:14:51human form

01:14:52Human form?

01:14:53here one can glimpse

01:14:54a little bit in this image

01:14:56There are others that are more obvious.

01:14:59is the part that has

01:15:00medicinal properties

01:15:02the one that causes

01:15:03all kinds of hallucinations

01:15:04of altered states

01:15:05of conscience

01:15:06it was said

01:15:07tradition said

01:15:08And this is a tradition.

01:15:08that comes from ancient times

01:15:10collected by Pliny

01:15:11in the first century AD

01:15:13but he was already picking it up

01:15:14by authors much older than him

01:15:15Imagine where the tradition comes from

01:15:17because it was said

01:15:18that could not be extracted

01:15:19by a man

01:15:20because if a man caught her

01:15:21or anyone

01:15:22that she would take it

01:15:23or human being

01:15:24that he would take it

01:15:25I was dying

01:15:25at the instant

01:15:26So how was it done?

01:15:27a dog was caught

01:15:28whose tail

01:15:30whose tail

01:15:30a rope was tied

01:15:33whose other end

01:15:33it was tied to the plant

01:15:35The dog took off running

01:15:37and in that way

01:15:37the plant was extracted

01:15:38but it was said

01:15:39that when extracted

01:15:40that plant on the ground

01:15:41it emitted a squeal

01:15:42because of that anthropomorphic shape

01:15:44that has

01:15:44I'll tell you that

01:15:46a single root of these

01:15:48worth

01:15:48in the 17th century

01:15:51the salary

01:15:52annual

01:15:52from a craftsman

01:15:55tremendous

01:15:55we have left

01:15:56to our colleague

01:15:57Juan José Revenga

01:15:58in the shot

01:15:58of ayahuasca

01:15:59the same process

01:16:00the same story

01:16:01instead of witches, shamans

01:16:02in America

01:16:03That's right

01:16:04capable men

01:16:05to connect

01:16:05with that other side

01:16:06that all cultures

01:16:07have glimpsed

01:16:08those shadows

01:16:09that are there

01:16:09that are nearby

01:16:10and that only some

01:16:11They seem to be able to see

01:16:12these shots

01:16:13of ayahuasca

01:16:14They're a drink

01:16:16Never a truer word spoken

01:16:16very unpleasant

01:16:17for the experimenter

01:16:18of ayahuasca

01:16:47and

01:16:48of ayahuasca

01:16:57400 years after the burning of those witches of Zugarramurdi,

01:17:01That village, that region, pays its own special tribute.

01:17:04They're going to build a witchcraft museum.

01:17:06of the anthropological interpretation of witchcraft in this region.

01:17:10We are glad that we can get closer to this strange world,

01:17:12always so dark.

01:17:13By the way, there were some truly famous ointments in Mar.

01:17:17Which was the most important, the most practiced by these sorceresses?

01:17:23and that caused deaths, connections with the afterlife?

01:17:26Which one was the most famous?

01:17:28They don't have specific names, but they do have a specific composition.

01:17:32And all those plants that were made belong to this type of ointment,

01:17:38all those plants from the nightshade family,

01:17:41which have very important effects on the central nervous system.

01:17:44These ointments were used by spreading them over the skin, spreading them over the skin,

01:17:49and specifically in areas with high blood flow,

01:17:52so that the effects would be much faster, they would circulate through the bloodstream.

01:17:56The most common areas were the armpits and genitals.

01:18:01And here's something that people don't usually know,

01:18:04and which is very curious when read for the first time.

01:18:09Do you know what the witches' broomstick handle was used for?

01:18:13It is commonly said that this was where witches rode,

01:18:15They were flying through the air to the coven.

01:18:18Well, it's not like that.

01:18:19The broom handle was used to apply this type of ointment to the vagina.

01:18:24because the vagina is a highly vascularized area, with many blood vessels,

01:18:28which quickly gave way to all these types of substances,

01:18:31into the bloodstream and produce an almost immediate effect.

01:18:35The knowledge of the witches of that era was astonishing.

01:18:37It's no surprise that they actually reached those states,

01:18:40sometimes the chronicles of the inquisitorial, especially orgiastic, say.

01:18:44The witch hunt became a kind of procession of sex, blood, death,

01:18:48according to the complainants.

01:18:50A truly intriguing world, and, we repeat,

01:18:53Now it's going to become fashionable again, at least in that town of the witches, Zugarramurti.

01:18:57Marrey, thank you so much for your first visit to Cuarto Milenio.

01:19:00We hope to have you back here very soon.

01:19:02Nice to meet you.

01:19:03Incidentally, cinema, the big screen, has not forgotten about witches either.

01:19:07The treatment has been very diverse.

01:19:08Sometimes as beggar sorceresses, mysterious matchmakers,

01:19:14knowledgeable about love and death potions.

01:19:16Cinema has never abandoned the shadow of witchcraft.

01:19:26You seek knowledge of hell, I will teach you.

01:19:38What are you doing?

01:19:39Don't move or speak.

01:19:41When the other one appears, I will hold him down.

01:19:44The other?

01:19:44Silence.

01:19:46It's getting closer.

01:19:57Lady.

01:19:59Hey?

01:20:00Ma'am, can you hear me?

01:20:14He seeks to know how to see more blood tomorrow from the headless horseman.

01:20:18Follow them in India, towards where the sun sets.

01:20:21Follow her to the tree of the dead.

01:20:23And go down to the place where the rider rests.

01:20:31I am absolutely certain that the people who saw those witches burning 400 years ago,

01:20:37screeching amidst the crackling flames,

01:20:39They could not forget those images as long as they lived.

01:20:42These are scenes that undoubtedly must have remained in his retina, in his soul, in his thoughts.

01:20:46Now, in the 21st century, these images are sometimes caught red-handed by digital cameras.

01:20:53We are receiving countless documents and we are enjoying and being thrilled by them.

01:20:58For example, Carmen, the two images you have there.

01:21:01The first one was sent to us by Virginia from Malaga.

01:21:05It was taken in July of this year.

01:21:08A friend was in the photo, and she was taking this picture.

01:21:12The photograph tells us that there was no one else in the room or in the house,

01:21:15But a woman's face appears right behind it, in the mirror.

01:21:20Our computer analyst says the photograph has not been digitally altered.

01:21:25But there was someone else in the room, Iker, a physical person.

01:21:29And this can be seen by the flash light affecting the image that appears in the

01:21:35mirror.

01:21:35Also due to the darkening caused by the backlighting effect of the upper light source behind him.

01:21:41In other words, in this case we are not talking about an ethereal being or a spectral entity,

01:21:45but of someone of flesh and blood who had sneaked in there.

01:21:48Nobody was on the other side of the mirror, but there staring.

01:21:52Now the question that these friends who sent us the photo will have to answer is:

01:21:55Who is that someone?

01:21:57At other times, lights appear, strange, mysterious phenomena.

01:22:01And it's curious because we've received several in a place we were paying close attention to last week,

01:22:06the Valley of the Fallen.

01:22:08María José Dueñas, who was writing to us from Madrid, had her photograph taken there.

01:22:13And he asked us what that beam of light we are now looking at could be.

01:22:17that ascends through that gate located in the Valley of the Fallen.

01:22:20Well, there are two possible explanations.

01:22:22The first possibility is that it is a defect in the development process.

01:22:25or even that the film The Negative has been exposed to extreme light or heat conditions.

01:22:31The second hypothesis or possibility is that an object, probably metallic, a pendant, a bracelet or something similar,

01:22:39that he was very close to the subject, that he got in the way when that photograph was taken.

01:22:44A perfectly logical explanation, Iker.

01:22:45So there are paranormal images, in quotes, that are then passed through the filter of investigation

01:22:50They cease to be enigmas and become closer, more everyday enigmas, plausible explanations.

01:22:55Carmen, the most important thing is that there is perfect notation of both ways of contacting Cuarto Milenio.

01:23:00We will repeat those two contact methods where you can send us all the material you wish.

01:23:06One of them is through email at cuartomilenio.com and also by post to Gran Vía street,

01:23:13number 32, Third Floor, 28013 Madrid, indicating that it is for the Cuarto Milenio program.

01:23:19By the way, Carmen, don't those images remind you of the scene from The Sixth Sense?

01:23:24Those photographs of children accompanied by lights, by strange little lamps

01:23:29that appear only at his side.

01:23:31There's a story that we'll be investigating.

01:23:32We are receiving a lot of graphic documentation in this regard.

01:23:36We'll talk about that on our next trips with the mystery ship.

01:23:40Of voices, of apparitions, of mysteries that remain to be solved,

01:23:43of mysteries that remain trapped in time, in history,

01:23:46and that we want to enjoy and explore with all of you.

01:23:50Because, I repeat, you are an essential part of this magical journey

01:23:53which we start every seven days.

01:23:55I assure you that we continue investigating, we continue traveling,

01:23:59We continue to pursue the mystery, trying to capture it with our own cameras.

01:24:04We are, as you know, Cuarto Milenio.

01:24:06But suddenly, exactly two hours into the recording,

01:24:08The first sound of an explosion was heard, a tremendous explosion.

01:24:12which, in a way, sparked our interest in continuing to listen

01:24:16the remaining hours of psychophony.

01:24:18And from then on, for half an hour, the sound of the airplane could be obtained.

01:24:22of a very particular type of airplane from that era, a piston-engine airplane,

01:24:26and the sound of shrapnel, the sound of fire, the sound of a car,

01:24:30noise, above all, a noise, I would even say ghostly,

01:24:35of what anyone can feel in such a cruel moment

01:24:39such as a civil war experienced at that time.

01:25:01Thank you!

Cuarto Milenio - 1x03 - Zugarramurdi, aldea de brujas - HD 720

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