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00:00:17This week on Cuarto Milenio we invite you to take a dark and dramatic journey.
00:00:21We are referring to penetrating the world of the devil, the dark one, the prince of darkness...
00:00:26...and we will do so with an argument that is absolutely topical.
00:00:28The movie The Exorcism of Emily Rose and all the truth in it.
00:00:32We will also try to uncover the mystery surrounding one of the strangest events...
00:00:36...of the modern history of Spain.
00:00:38What happened to the dovecote bombs?
00:00:40And finally, we will learn about a unique light fixture.
00:00:44He has been tormenting the inhabitants of a region in Albacete for 40 years.
00:00:48There, they still call her the light of the sparrow even today.
00:00:52When winter arrives, the light returns.
00:00:54In a region of Albacete, hundreds of witnesses have encountered her in the middle of the night.
00:01:00Between legend and reality, Cuarto Milenio pursues the true enigma of the so-called Lamp of the Dead.
00:01:09Four atomic bombs, 70 times more powerful than those that devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki,
00:01:14...fell 40 years ago on the desert lands of Almería.
00:01:18Although no one in Palomares has forgotten that military accident,
00:01:21...everything around him remains silence and mystery.
00:01:25The Exorcism of Emily Rose is a box office smash worldwide.
00:01:29Perhaps the most impressive thing about this film is that it is based on a terrifying and controversial true story.
00:01:35A case that far surpasses any fiction.
00:01:40The 19th century was drawing to a close when a farmer from the Balazote region, in Albacete,
00:01:45...he found a mysterious treasure with every blow of his hoe.
00:01:48His tool struck the head of a mysterious animal,
00:01:51...of a very strange mythological sculpture that had been underground for almost millennia.
00:01:57Nobody knows what it meant or what it was doing there.
00:01:59The obvious thing is that he had the face of a man, the body of a bull, and the tail of a lion.
00:02:04What no one suspected was that from that precise moment on,
00:02:06...a lot of neighbors from that particular region,
00:02:09...I was going to start seeing a mysterious intruder lurking around the area.
00:02:12He was no other farmer, no civil guard, no hunter.
00:02:16It was something much stranger, a kind of extinguished lamp, a diffused light,
00:02:21...that always took the same route, as if it had something to do with these funerary pieces.
00:02:26Over time, different generations of men and women from this region,
00:02:30...they gave her a name, they christened her Luz del Pardal.
00:02:33And who knows, maybe tonight or any other night, while traveling through that land,
00:02:37...we encounter the annoying company.
00:02:40And I say annoying because what is mysterious, what is unknown, is annoying.
00:02:44I invite you to discover the place and learn about its exploits and misadventures...
00:02:48...of this popular light, the Light of the Pardal.
00:02:52Always the same place, the Laquejola farm.
00:02:57Always following the same route, over and over again.
00:03:02Baffling apparitions, which have been documented since the beginning of the 20th century.
00:03:11Difficult times, when hunting posts were even established,
00:03:15...to capture the strange prowler at gunpoint.
00:03:26All lies.
00:03:27Those are conundrums that people have been telling me for hundreds of years.
00:03:31You don't have to be 50, 60, or anything like that.
00:03:34How long has the Pardal light been around?
00:03:36That's what I've seen, I know the people who have said they've seen it, a lot of people.
00:03:41That's all a lie.
00:03:47Many remember how women worked in the fields,
00:03:50...they were already observing the presence of the defiant morning star, silent and vigilant.
00:03:56And they used to see her a lot, and before, the women used to come here to glean.
00:04:01...and they say they saw her, look at the light from the cabins, you can see the cabins loading wood.
00:04:05And when they realized it, it had already disappeared; no more booths were passing by, nothing was happening.
00:04:11The light of the Pardal is part of their daily life.
00:04:14Not surprisingly, everyone knows a neighbor who has come face to face with her.
00:04:19Many people here say they've seen her, that she appears, that she's climbed on top of their cars.
00:04:25...others on bicycles, others on motorcycles, I haven't seen that.
00:04:29Lamp of the dead, lantern of the devil, luminary of the deceased.
00:04:34A presence that has been observed by dozens of people in recent years.
00:05:02The phenomenon is real, and it has been seen by almost all the residents of the region.
00:05:07However, for several years now, someone has imposed silence between them.
00:05:13Many don't want to talk about it now; they confess that they are afraid to tell their stories.
00:05:18...what really happens some nights.
00:05:20But why? Who is sealing their mouths?
00:05:26I don't know, I haven't seen it.
00:05:27And you don't know anyone who's seen her?
00:05:30No, no, no, I don't know.
00:05:33I don't...
00:05:34I've never seen her.
00:05:36They told him, it seemed irreparable.
00:05:38I don't understand that.
00:05:40I have never seen anything, nor have I seen anything at all.
00:05:42I haven't seen anything, I haven't seen anything at all.
00:05:47I'm not a big fan of such hidden topics, or anything like that.
00:05:49...but it seems that there's something people aren't saying, that's what it seems to me.
00:05:55Despite the strange pact of silence, the Cuarto Milenio team was able to gather new testimonies.
00:06:01...who resist any veto imposed by force.
00:06:05No, nobody is afraid to talk about the light.
00:06:09He who has seen her is not afraid.
00:06:11My brother-in-law says he has seen her several times, coming from San Pedro.
00:06:15When the bicycles came, they saw her coming, and when they got here to park, she disappeared and...
00:06:21...but that they had seen her, I don't know, but nobody was afraid to say so.
00:06:26It's known to be a bit of a myth, and even older people, everyone,
00:06:31...with the, with the halo of the sparrow's light, which even if it came out,
00:06:36...I think you are aware of the history, that even the cart drivers were put in the way,
00:06:40...I think all of that was a little bit, a little bit of fantasy.
00:06:43The light of the sparrow is a mystery that is difficult to categorize.
00:06:46Will-o'-the-wisps? Ball lightning? Misperceptions of the planet Venus?
00:06:51Surely none of these answers can categorically explain...
00:06:55...all the experiences that have been lived here for a century.
00:06:59Perhaps the answers lie in the Iberian archaeological sites that surround the area.
00:07:03Those same ones, filled with strange figures unearthed by accident,
00:07:08...where the mysterious lamp is always born and dies.
00:07:15Well, there it is, perfectly identified.
00:07:18At least its mystery, its shadow, its presence,
00:07:20...some denials seem, frankly, like outright confessions, when observing this report.
00:07:25We are accompanied by a scholar of everything that interests human beings,
00:07:29...the doctor in Social Anthropology from the Complutense University, Mr. José Luis Cardero.
00:07:33José Luis, welcome, good evening.
00:07:35Good evening, Iker.
00:07:37Luminaries, lamps of the dead, processions, cortege of people of death?
00:07:40This isn't recent, is it?
00:07:42No, it's not from now, nor is it from a specific place.
00:07:46This has been found in all traditions, in all lands, in all countries of the world,
00:07:53...in all traditions, and it has been found; I believe it is a phenomenon that accompanies humankind...
00:07:58...since the dawn of time, perhaps, right?
00:08:00...which would be the oldest culture in which references to this fear of lights are found,
00:08:05...perhaps relating them to the dead, to something spiritual, to something absolutely unknown to human beings.
00:08:11When did these kinds of memories begin to appear in history?
00:08:15Well, I believe that these kinds of memories appear in petroglyphs.
00:08:20That is, taking into account that many petroglyphs are approximately 4,000 to 6,000 years old.
00:08:26Are petroglyphs ancient drawings on stone?
00:08:29Exactly, drawings on the stone. In these petroglyphs, circles often appear,
00:08:34...that it is very possible that those people who were representing that,
00:08:39...they wanted to represent those kinds of phenomena with those drawings, right?
00:08:43They also appear all over the world. That is to say, there are representations in Norway,
00:08:49...Norway, which is, incidentally, the place where one of the most studied phenomena occurs,
00:08:55...in the Hesdalen valley, of this type of lighting,
00:08:58...these types of representations already appear in petroglyphs.
00:09:02And they appear in Galicia, they appear in Africa, they appear in North America.
00:09:06In other words, it is a universal phenomenon in time and space.
00:09:10A phenomenon that accompanies man, a phenomenon that is very close to us,
00:09:13...and perhaps we provide the interpretation, then, according to the element that is closest to us,
00:09:19...or depending on our background.
00:09:21To some they may be goblins, or perhaps they were goblins in the Middle Ages,
00:09:24...then they could be extraterrestrials.
00:09:26Time goes by, but it seems that the mystery remains exactly the same.
00:09:30Lantern of the dead, lamp of the deceased...
00:09:33You know Galicia very well; the Santa Compaña would be one of the basic examples.
00:09:38...because many of these figures, procession of souls,
00:09:41...often carries in his hand a candle, a taper, or simply a light.
00:09:44It's very curious because, in tradition, the night is precisely the night.
00:09:48...furthermore, in the tradition of all peoples, it is usually the place of the dead,
00:09:53...or rather, the space of the dead.
00:09:57That is to say, so much so that in Galicia, the Santa Compaña,
00:10:00...which, let's say, has a kind of specialty,
00:10:04...that is, there are Santa Compaña, which are souls in groups,
00:10:08...and there are Santa Compaña, which are solitary souls, or solitary lights.
00:10:11So, to these latter ones, I don't know exactly why, in the province of Lugo,
00:10:15...in a small village very close to the city of Lugo,
00:10:17...in Galician they call it asdanoite, that is, those of the night.
00:10:21They are creatures of the night.
00:10:23Luminaries are creatures of the night, fundamentally.
00:10:27I remember that, for example, in the Irish tradition,
00:10:30...to these figures, to these luminaries, to these lights that appear,
00:10:33...they call it the light of the druids.
00:10:35In Scotland, for example, they call him Saint John and his son,
00:10:39...because sometimes they appear in double form, they appear as a double figure.
00:10:44In other words, in Germany, for example,
00:10:48...in addition to that character related to the dead,
00:10:51...they also serve as markers for places where treasures are buried,
00:10:56...hidden treasures.
00:10:57Interesting. So, they would make a difference.
00:10:58They would leave a mark, indeed. It's a kind of double-edged sword.
00:11:01In other words, it's a, shall we say, dangerous character.
00:11:05...such as all these manifestations that are related to or connected with the supernatural,
00:11:10...and a, let's say, utilitarian character.
00:11:12In other words, to indicate places where something has happened,
00:11:15...or where those manifestations of the sacred wish to communicate something.
00:11:19For example, in Galicia, the lights can be a warning of death.
00:11:23If they are placed, for example, on a path or on top of a house,
00:11:27...may indicate that, in a more or less short time, the inhabitants of the house or some of them may die.
00:11:32But they can also be placed in Galicia, somewhere where a treasure has been buried.
00:11:36Treasures that have almost always been buried there by fabulous, mythological characters,
00:11:40...who are called the Moors,
00:11:42...which have nothing to do with the Moors.
00:11:44In other words, they are another kind of living beings, right?
00:11:49That is to say, there are the beings of culture, let's say, us,
00:11:52...and those other species that are active at night,
00:11:55...that inhabit megalithic monuments,
00:11:58...that live in caves,
00:11:59...and which give rise to all these illuminations, to all these luminaries,
00:12:03...to point out the place where there is a treasure, right?
00:12:06A very curious interpretation, beneficial to humankind.
00:12:09...sometimes terrifying, because imagine what it's like to walk along a narrow path,
00:12:12...or along a road in the Pardal region, in Albacete,
00:12:15...and finding oneself alone, with that kind of dimmed light,
00:12:18...that is swaying and getting closer to you.
00:12:21Sometimes, many witnesses even gave these stories a more macabre tone.
00:12:25I myself interviewed many people in El Pardal,
00:12:27...which said that just before the light appeared, in the middle of nowhere,
00:12:30...there was a sound, the sound of chains.
00:12:34Perhaps that was a way of interpreting it with the deceased?
00:12:37Let's talk about a purely physical interpretation.
00:12:40Meteorologists, physicists, scientists,
00:12:42...they also have their say regarding these phenomena.
00:12:45Ball lightning, luminous clusters produced by storms,
00:12:50...physical phenomena that can be as interesting as any UFO,
00:12:53...any popular light.
00:12:56What is St. Elmo's fire?
00:12:58Like fires, we have St. Elmo's fire,
00:13:00...which is very well known to sailors,
00:13:02...which is normally generated in the masts,
00:13:05...or on the mizzenmast, on the foremasts, on the ships,
00:13:09...on old sailing ships,
00:13:10...it's very well described,
00:13:11...and the Spanish sailors who traveled to America knew it perfectly well,
00:13:15...and it's due to concentration,
00:13:18...or rather, to the ionization of those structures,
00:13:22...the masts of a ship's sails,
00:13:25...on a completely flat surface,
00:13:27...like the sea, without any sharp edges,
00:13:29...well, the surfaces, due to the property of the points,
00:13:33...that ionize the air around them,
00:13:35...they become a large concentration of electrons,
00:13:38...there is a very strong magnetic field,
00:13:41...an electric field, sorry,
00:13:42...very high in that area,
00:13:44...and there is a very noticeable difference in potential,
00:13:46...with storm clouds that may be approaching,
00:13:48...to a ship at sea,
00:13:49...and when a sufficient potential difference is generated,
00:13:52...so that there is an electrical discharge,
00:13:54...many times,
00:13:55...those guide downloads,
00:13:56...they come out of the mast, the masts of the ships,
00:13:59...towards the cloud,
00:14:00...and they fail to connect with the downstream download,
00:14:03...to produce a complete electrical discharge,
00:14:06...a lightning bolt,
00:14:07...and those small discharges that come out of the tips of the ships' masts,
00:14:10...they are St. Elmo's fire.
00:14:13Other meteorological phenomena,
00:14:14...not directly related to electricity,
00:14:17...For example,
00:14:18...specters,
00:14:18...Brocken Spectre,
00:14:20...well described, it is an optical phenomenon,
00:14:23...but there are no other types of meteorological phenomena,
00:14:26...related to fire,
00:14:28...that is well described,
00:14:31...that is visible,
00:14:32...and that it has been noted by observers.
00:14:38I remember perfectly too,
00:14:40...that many of the residents of a village,
00:14:42...or ruined, vanished village,
00:14:43...called Casas Navarretes,
00:14:44...they claimed they had to leave their homes,
00:14:47...because when the light appeared,
00:14:48...inside the houses,
00:14:50...the pots and pans started moving on their own,
00:14:52...the plates were breaking,
00:14:54...strange voices followed one another,
00:14:55...the screams,
00:14:56...incomprehensible,
00:14:57...that is to say,
00:14:58...that light fixture,
00:14:59...that unknown source,
00:15:00...caused strange phenomena,
00:15:02...very close to human beings,
00:15:04...and fear began to surround this mystery,
00:15:06...hence perhaps the silence,
00:15:08...enveloped in that silence,
00:15:09...we have left our colleague Francisco Contreras,
00:15:11...of course,
00:15:12...as is the basic rule in Cuarto Milenio,
00:15:14...we wanted to pass,
00:15:15...a long night,
00:15:17...in the area where it disappears,
00:15:18...the light of the vine.
00:15:24Cuarto Milenio planned a night watch,
00:15:26...in the territory that apparently,
00:15:28...almost always chooses the light,
00:15:30...as evening fell,
00:15:31...we located the strategic points,
00:15:33...to carry out the search,
00:15:35...the first one,
00:15:36...the entrance to the property,
00:15:39...the exact location,
00:15:40...where two decades ago,
00:15:41...a Civil Guard patrol,
00:15:43...he encountered the impossible,
00:15:45...it happened in March 1982,
00:15:47...on one of the nights we were coming off duty,
00:15:49...along with the corporal who was there at the time,
00:15:52...who, incidentally, has passed away,
00:15:53...a certain José Olmo Villén,
00:15:55...and we came upon a light,
00:15:58...at a height of,
00:15:59...about half a meter,
00:16:01...in a place called La Quejola,
00:16:04...that we thought it was some kind of poacher,
00:16:07...some poacher,
00:16:09...but as we got closer to him,
00:16:11...the light disappeared,
00:16:13...and we could no longer find out what it was about.
00:16:17It's always the same description,
00:16:19...identical route,
00:16:20...and terrifying company.
00:16:23The light was like a round drum,
00:16:26...and it was about the size of a ball,
00:16:29...big,
00:16:30...come on,
00:16:31...not very big,
00:16:31...very large,
00:16:32...but it looked like the light from a projector,
00:16:35...of a large motorcycle,
00:16:37...and so it was traveling on a meter,
00:16:40...of 0.50 meters,
00:16:41...through places where it was impossible for that to circulate.
00:16:45But they were not the only members of the Civil Guard,
00:16:48...in having an encounter with the night visitor.
00:16:51José Sánchez Acosta,
00:16:53...currently in reserve,
00:16:54...he confronted the luminary months later.
00:16:57It appears that the light was going off on the side of the vehicle for them,
00:17:04...but they never got to see what it was either.
00:17:08The hours passed,
00:17:10...and the raids continued along roads and paths,
00:17:12...without any sign of the wandering star.
00:17:15In the middle of the night,
00:17:16...withstanding freezing temperatures,
00:17:18...we decided to move to another of the hotspots,
00:17:22...right at the entrance to Casas de Lázaro,
00:17:24...the point where the greatest number of times,
00:17:26...the lamp of the dead had been observed.
00:17:29There was a motorcycle headlight,
00:17:31...there was a lighthouse,
00:17:32...the headlight of a motorcycle,
00:17:33...but,
00:17:35...I run like that, so dimly, don't I?
00:17:37...that did not dazzle,
00:17:39...it was a light like this,
00:17:41...yellow, but,
00:17:43...yellowish like that, pale, right?
00:17:44The sun emerged on the horizon, bringing an end to the night of vigil.
00:17:48...the lamp did not show up for the appointment this time,
00:17:52...as if he had wanted to remain enveloped in that sepulchral silence,
00:17:56...that accompanied us from our arrival.
00:17:59We left there,
00:18:01...convinced they had been watched from the very beginning for some reason,
00:18:05...for some strange reason,
00:18:06...that sooner or later,
00:18:09...we will eventually find out.
00:18:17Slippery in the sparrow's light,
00:18:18...without a doubt,
00:18:20...however, it is very curious,
00:18:21...to know why the light appears at certain times and not at others,
00:18:25...or in what exact locations.
00:18:27José Luis,
00:18:28There's a whole field of study about this,
00:18:30...times and places.
00:18:31Yes, exactly,
00:18:32...it's curious because at this point in the analysis,
00:18:36...to put it in the study,
00:18:37...two parties are linked,
00:18:39a more technical part, let's say,
00:18:42...which is the study of light,
00:18:43...properly speaking,
00:18:44...and the part about tradition,
00:18:45...the part where it's called tradition,
00:18:46...interestingly, in many cases it corresponds,
00:18:48...that is to say,
00:18:49Where do these lights usually appear?
00:18:51Well, these lights usually appear in what in anthropology,
00:18:54...are called paradoxical places,
00:18:57...unstructured places,
00:18:59...places that are on the border,
00:19:01...For example,
00:19:01...between water and land,
00:19:03...between heaven and earth,
00:19:05...between night and day.
00:19:06For example, a river,
00:19:07...it would be a perfect place.
00:19:08Exactly,
00:19:09and taking into account that the rivers,
00:19:10...in tradition they have always been considered as places of access to the afterlife,
00:19:16...and the places where souls or spirits went to the other world,
00:19:20...apart from the sea, which would be,
00:19:21...let's say,
00:19:22...the ideal place in the land of the dead.
00:19:24It's curious, then, that these lights always appear in these kinds of places.
00:19:28...at these kinds of hours,
00:19:29...that is to say,
00:19:29...when it's not yet night but it's already getting dark,
00:19:33...when it is not yet dawn but the sun is already beginning to rise,
00:19:37...these are hours when tradition speaks of the hours of ghosts,
00:19:41...the hours of the demonstrations,
00:19:43...which also appear, for example, in places like crossroads,
00:19:46...which have such extensive development in anthropological studies,
00:19:51...such as places where suicides were buried,
00:19:54...as crossroads places ruled by the god Hermes,
00:19:58...the three-faced god,
00:19:59...that is to say, the Romans already identified these places as paradoxical places,
00:20:03...border areas.
00:20:04José Luis, I can't resist asking you why last week,
00:20:07...viewers of Cuarto Milenio saw several cases,
00:20:10...you were involved in that report about the girl on the curve,
00:20:12...and some of the great European legends and myths,
00:20:16...the Lady of Etchema,
00:20:17...so many others,
00:20:18...they were at a crossroads,
00:20:19...and in Galicia there was also great fear of crossroads,
00:20:21...the wayside cross.
00:20:22Well, in fact, the crossroads,
00:20:24...the crossroads,
00:20:25...which is the crossroads in Galicia,
00:20:27...is the place where the Santa Compaña (Holy Company) preferentially disappears,
00:20:30...and where all sorts of strange creatures appear,
00:20:34...for example, werewolves,
00:20:35...the wolves themselves,
00:20:36...which are,
00:20:37...come on,
00:20:37...which have a large mythological component in the ethnology and anthropology of Galicia,
00:20:42...as beings,
00:20:43...let's say,
00:20:44...unfamiliar with the culture,
00:20:46...the dead,
00:20:48...the deceased,
00:20:49...and those deceased can come,
00:20:50...or those souls or those lights of fire,
00:20:53...they can come,
00:20:53As we have said before,
00:20:54...for several things,
00:20:55...they can come as a threat,
00:20:56...directly,
00:20:57...that is to say,
00:20:57...to kill,
00:20:58...or to take that person to the other world,
00:21:00...they may come as a warning,
00:21:02...that some important social norm has been violated,
00:21:05...above all, it's curious,
00:21:06...this happens in Galicia,
00:21:08...with regard to incest,
00:21:09...that prohibition of incest,
00:21:11...which is a universally widespread prohibition in all cultures,
00:21:14...sometimes,
00:21:15...is violated,
00:21:16...is violated,
00:21:17...so,
00:21:18...it's curious because in the Galician tradition,
00:21:20...the beyond,
00:21:20...responds immediately to these violations,
00:21:23...responds by attacking,
00:21:24...that is to say,
00:21:25...sanctioning,
00:21:26...and those sanctions aren't just in this world,
00:21:28...but they are also in the other,
00:21:29...and often the sanctioned character,
00:21:32...he,
00:21:32...let's say,
00:21:33...the violator of that rule,
00:21:35...is one dead,
00:21:37...is a person who hasn't quite entered the world of the dead,
00:21:40...nor of abandoning the world of the living,
00:21:42...and precisely its field of action is at crossroads,
00:21:45...and often it's with a light,
00:21:47...with a light fixture,
00:21:48...with a ball of fire accompanying it,
00:21:49...as if it were a distinctive sign,
00:21:51...that that character,
00:21:53...he is a withdrawn character,
00:21:55...both from the sphere of the dead,
00:21:57...as from the sphere of the living,
00:21:58...thrilling,
00:21:59...without a doubt,
00:22:00...listen to Don José Luis Cardero,
00:22:02...doctor in Social Anthropology,
00:22:04...by the Complutense University of Madrid,
00:22:05...exciting to hear things that one,
00:22:07...and all that kind of stuff,
00:22:08...has been loudly gathered on the roads,
00:22:10...on the roads,
00:22:10...in those places,
00:22:12...there are even spells,
00:22:13...ways to protect yourself against these things,
00:22:15...make a circle,
00:22:16...perform several hand movements,
00:22:19...anthropologically it's wonderful.
00:22:20Yes, well,
00:22:21...culture evidently develops its weapons,
00:22:25...develops its weapons against these threats,
00:22:28...one of them, for example,
00:22:29...that's what you say,
00:22:31...describe a circle,
00:22:32...make a circle on the ground,
00:22:33...to go inside,
00:22:34...even shooting with your eyes,
00:22:36...with their face towards the ground,
00:22:37...so as not to see,
00:22:38...that is to say,
00:22:39...what it's about is fundamentally
00:22:40...of not making contact,
00:22:41...by no means,
00:22:42...with this type of demonstration,
00:22:43...because if there is any contact,
00:22:45...or there's a challenge,
00:22:47...which do exist from time to time,
00:22:48...of people who challenge that power,
00:22:51...the reaction is terrible,
00:22:52...that is to say,
00:22:52...that power,
00:22:53...that demonic power,
00:22:54...that transnatural power,
00:22:57...or that supernatural power,
00:22:58...of those forces,
00:23:00...it develops in a brutal way,
00:23:01...regarding the offender,
00:23:03...it's curious,
00:23:04...because this often happens,
00:23:05...For example,
00:23:06...in many literary works,
00:23:08...literary texts,
00:23:09...are a fundamental component,
00:23:11...in ethnographic research,
00:23:12...and ethnological,
00:23:13...texts such as,
00:23:14...For example,
00:23:14...those from Vajinclán,
00:23:15...the barbaric comedies,
00:23:16...they are a true breeding ground,
00:23:18...of this type of demonstration,
00:23:20...where it is demonstrated,
00:23:21...how it is punished,
00:23:22...in a brutal way,
00:23:23...and ruthless,
00:23:24...to the infractions,
00:23:25...that occur,
00:23:26...against the social order,
00:23:27...and it's curious,
00:23:28...that Vajinclán pick it up,
00:23:29...because Vajinclán is a writer,
00:23:30...after all,
00:23:31...it wouldn't necessarily have to focus,
00:23:32...however,
00:23:32...he focuses,
00:23:33...because that's one thing,
00:23:34...that sinks deep inside,
00:23:36...inside,
00:23:37...of people,
00:23:42...of the infractions,
00:23:43...to the social order,
00:23:44...then the anthropologists,
00:23:45...what we do is,
00:23:46...all these types of demonstrations,
00:23:47...many times,
00:23:48...are a product,
00:23:50...may seem,
00:23:51...such as products,
00:23:53...of this kind of thing,
00:23:54...we're not interested,
00:23:55...so much,
00:23:56...let's say,
00:23:56...the physical origin,
00:23:57...like the story,
00:23:59...as the gentleman interprets it,
00:24:00...as the gentleman interprets it,
00:24:02...the individual,
00:24:03...human beings,
00:24:04...that deals with these things.
00:24:05Thank you so much,
00:24:06...José Luis Cardero,
00:24:07...to shed light,
00:24:08...never a truer word spoken,
00:24:08...this matter,
00:24:09...of the light fixtures,
00:24:10...those that pursue man
00:24:11...since the beginning of time.
00:24:13It's very curious,
00:24:14...because thousands of kilometers away
00:24:15...from this area of Albacete,
00:24:17...I myself have interviewed
00:24:18...to witnesses,
00:24:19...to true gauchos,
00:24:21...to real men
00:24:21...of the Argentine pampas,
00:24:23...who spoke of the will-o'-the-wisp,
00:24:24...what's more,
00:24:25...they even bet on each other
00:24:26...to see who came closest
00:24:28...that kind of figure,
00:24:30...absolutely bizarre,
00:24:31...that was emerging,
00:24:32...and the proof was,
00:24:33...even going so far as to brandish the knife
00:24:35...before her.
00:24:36That was a test,
00:24:37...as I say,
00:24:37...of honor,
00:24:37...and strength,
00:24:38...and manhood in those times.
00:24:41What they identified
00:24:42...it was exactly the same
00:24:43...than what we have seen
00:24:43...in this report.
00:24:45A reddish lamp,
00:24:46...off,
00:24:46...not too high off the ground
00:24:47...and always at the same times
00:24:49...and in the same places.
00:24:50By the way,
00:24:51We began with a mysterious figure,
00:24:53...the bitch from Balazote.
00:24:54And we're going to finish,
00:24:55...as is customary,
00:24:56...returning to its mystery.
00:24:58Francisco Gago
00:24:58...is the restorer
00:24:59...of this very strange piece.
00:25:01Lion's tail,
00:25:02...body of a bull,
00:25:02...face of a bearded man.
00:25:04His enigma
00:25:05...remains unresolved.
00:25:10This is one of the most representative ones,
00:25:12...along with the Lady of Elche
00:25:13...and the lady of Baza.
00:25:14It is one of the strangest monuments,
00:25:16...speaking specifically
00:25:17...of the Balazote bitch,
00:25:18...and more unparalleled of our
00:25:20...prehistoric arthrology.
00:25:21It was found in Balazote,
00:25:22...in a small village
00:25:23...from the province of Albacete.
00:25:25Its monstrous appearance,
00:25:28...according to García Bellido,
00:25:28...body of a bull,
00:25:29...human head,
00:25:30...the curious expression
00:25:31...of his bearded face,
00:25:32...the yearning
00:25:33...from her open eyes,
00:25:34...the budding horns,
00:25:36...her small bovine ears,
00:25:37...in the end,
00:25:38...an attitude
00:25:38...of a bull at rest.
00:25:40It would probably be
00:25:41...a piece
00:25:42...that was
00:25:44...punch
00:25:44...or attached
00:25:45...to a temple,
00:25:46...to a temple
00:25:47...surely
00:25:48...of a religious nature,
00:25:50...according to the writings
00:25:51...of García Bellido.
00:25:55You already know that Cuarto Milenio
00:25:57...it's a mystery ship
00:25:58...very particular,
00:25:59...that is capable
00:26:00...to move
00:26:00...in space and time
00:26:01...and that's why
00:26:02...without any effort
00:26:03...we can travel
00:26:04...from the deepest
00:26:05...prehistory,
00:26:06...from the most remote
00:26:06...antique
00:26:07...to this day.
00:26:08And that's in a week
00:26:09...many things happen
00:26:11...which usually
00:26:11...they are not counted,
00:26:12...things however
00:26:13...that interest us
00:26:14...and a lot.
00:26:15That's the news
00:26:16...that each week brings us
00:26:16Carmen Porter.
00:26:17Carmen, good evening.
00:26:18Good evening, Iker.
00:26:19The first of them
00:26:20...it takes us to Sacramento,
00:26:22California,
00:26:22...there apparently
00:26:23...the image of a virgin
00:26:25...has started to cry
00:26:26...tears of blood.
00:26:27That much, at least.
00:26:28...that's what they claim
00:26:29...the two priests
00:26:30...who were witnesses
00:26:31...of how the face
00:26:32...of that figure
00:26:33...began to flow
00:26:35...a species
00:26:36...of reddish liquid.
00:26:37After,
00:26:38Kitruong,
00:26:39the maintenance manager
00:26:40...of the temple,
00:26:41...he also witnessed
00:26:42...how she cried
00:26:43...that image.
00:26:44For many believers
00:26:45...this is a warning
00:26:46...because of the poor performance
00:26:47...that we are having
00:26:48...human beings
00:26:49...on Earth.
00:26:49On the contrary,
00:27:19...the church does not affirm
00:27:20...vampire, vampire,
00:27:22...in Romanian.
00:27:22Vampires,
00:27:23...it seems unbelievable,
00:27:24...21st century
00:27:24...are making headlines again.
00:27:25It happened in the village
00:27:27Moran and Tull.
00:27:29They organized it there
00:27:29...a game
00:27:30...to hunt what they believed
00:27:31...that he was a vampire.
00:27:33It's nothing more than that
00:27:33...and nothing less
00:27:34...of Petrica Toma's body,
00:27:36...a man who died
00:27:37...last year
00:27:38...and of which his own
00:27:39...relatives believed
00:27:40...that at night
00:27:41...emerged from his tomb
00:27:42...to annoy them.
00:27:44They said that when
00:27:45...they unearthed him,
00:27:46...the hands were
00:27:47...in another position,
00:27:48...the head
00:27:48...was back,
00:27:49...had lips
00:27:50...stained with blood
00:27:51...and the feet
00:27:52...full of mud.
00:27:53Do they know what they did?
00:27:55They took his body,
00:27:56...they tore out his heart,
00:27:57...they drove a stake into him,
00:27:59...they burned their organs
00:28:00...and then
00:28:01...they ate them.
00:28:02And that's because of the shadow
00:28:03...of the vampire
00:28:04...of the strigoy
00:28:05...it will always remain
00:28:06...linked to that territory
00:28:07...mythical,
00:28:08...the Carpathians,
00:28:08...old Romania.
00:28:10Let's start with one thing
00:28:10...more pleasant,
00:28:11...a new archaeological discovery
00:28:12...and it has to do with
00:28:13...with a character
00:28:14...much brighter,
00:28:15Jesus of Nazareth.
00:28:16A group of archaeologists
00:28:17Israelis
00:28:18...has discovered
00:28:19...in the city of Tiberias
00:28:20...a coin
00:28:23...a building
00:28:23...who they say is Jesus Christ
00:28:25...and an inscription in Greek
00:28:27...which says King of Kings.
00:28:29This is the first coin
00:28:30...which is located in the area
00:28:31...and experts believe
00:28:32...which comes from Istanbul,
00:28:34...in Türkiye,
00:28:35...where it was carried out
00:28:35...on the occasion
00:28:36...of the first millennium.
00:28:38According to these experts,
00:28:39...the discovery
00:28:40...would indicate that the crusaders
00:28:42...they arrived in Tiberias
00:28:43...during the Muslim period.
00:28:45And I ask myself,
00:28:46...two thousand years ago
00:28:46...in the time of Jesus of Nazareth,
00:28:48...I don't think anyone
00:28:49...I might dare to imagine
00:28:50...that in the future
00:28:51...some iron men,
00:28:53...of steel,
00:28:53...of metal,
00:28:54...would almost dominate
00:28:55...in the world.
00:28:56It seems to be happening already.
00:28:57In Japan,
00:28:58...a place very close by
00:28:59...in these technological advances,
00:29:01...there is a large exhibition.
00:29:02The greatest exposure
00:29:03...of robots worldwide
00:29:05...is being celebrated
00:29:06...right now in Tokyo.
00:29:08There we can see
00:29:08...all kinds of machinery,
00:29:10...many of them
00:29:11...they look human.
00:29:12Definitely,
00:29:13...this year's star
00:29:14...it was Shaya,
00:29:16...a robot in the shape of a woman
00:29:17...developed by the University
00:29:18...of Science in Tokyo,
00:29:19...who greets and responds
00:29:21...to the questions
00:29:21...in the visitors.
00:29:23Also, everyone who
00:29:23...that he comes closer
00:29:24...until this exhibition
00:29:26...can contemplate
00:29:27...how they have been
00:29:28...included in medical science
00:29:30...or how she can dance
00:29:31...a dance piece
00:29:32...with you
00:29:33...playing any music.
00:29:35There will be a day
00:29:35...not too far away
00:29:37...in which
00:29:37...even mystery shows
00:29:39...are presented by robots.
00:29:40We don't have room.
00:29:41...not the slightest doubt.
00:29:42But to whom never
00:29:43...will replace cybernetics
00:29:44...I'm sure
00:29:45...it's for the viewers
00:29:46...from Cuarto Milenio.
00:29:47...those that flood us
00:29:49...gratifyingly
00:29:49...because we're delighted
00:29:51...with the thousands of documents
00:29:52...photographs
00:29:53...filming
00:29:54...psychophonies
00:29:54...that they are sending us.
00:29:56That's what I call it!
00:29:56...impossible to copy.
00:29:58By the way, Carmen,
00:29:59...not just photos
00:29:59...but also EVP recordings.
00:30:01We have been sent EVP recordings
00:30:03...some of them
00:30:04...really strange.
00:30:05In this case
00:30:06...Alfonso did it
00:30:07...from Zaragoza.
00:30:08He was experimenting
00:30:10...with their mobile phone
00:30:10...in the room
00:30:11...since it says
00:30:12...that at his home
00:30:13...phenomena occur
00:30:15...strangers.
00:30:16And a voice came out
00:30:16...truly disturbing
00:30:18...Iker.
00:30:18It seems to say
00:30:19...Lucía.
00:30:22Lucia.
00:30:29Well, we'll see.
00:30:31...what computing
00:30:31...and the analyses
00:30:32...can determine
00:30:33...in the future.
00:30:33There it is.
00:30:34Of course
00:30:34...for the one who obtains
00:30:35...these voices
00:30:36...it's usually a bitter pill to swallow
00:30:37...but it must be said
00:30:38...which never usually happen
00:30:39...strange things
00:30:40...nor bad
00:30:40...at the address
00:30:41...because one
00:30:41...a voice comes out
00:30:42...which he is unaware of.
00:30:43It may have
00:30:44...an origin
00:30:44...perfectly natural.
00:30:45Which is curious
00:30:46...is that photograph
00:30:47...that you have there, Carmen.
00:30:48She sent it to us
00:30:49Santiago Gómez Motinho
00:30:51...from Guadalajara
00:30:52...and the truth
00:30:52...it was that I was
00:30:53...somewhat puzzled
00:30:54...because it was done
00:30:56...this image
00:30:56...in a church
00:30:58...in the basements
00:30:59...where he was buried
00:30:59...formerly
00:31:00...to people
00:31:01...to monks
00:31:02...that dwelt
00:31:03...in those temples.
00:31:05And it has come out
00:31:05...something really strange
00:31:07...and that the photograph
00:31:08...is overexposed
00:31:09...and therefore
00:31:09...people have left
00:31:11...translucent and moving
00:31:12...but what they didn't realize
00:31:13...these friends
00:31:14...it's just behind
00:31:15...of the person
00:31:16...of the woman
00:31:16...which we see in the foreground
00:31:18...there is a figure
00:31:19...hooded
00:31:19...he looks like a monk
00:31:21...it seems that the face
00:31:22...is floating
00:31:23...behind this woman
00:31:24...and really
00:31:25...that person
00:31:26...if it's not physics
00:31:27...he had no reason to be there.
00:31:29Photographs
00:31:30...images
00:31:30...surprising
00:31:31...we always receive it
00:31:32...in two essential ways.
00:31:35Two ways to contact
00:31:36...that we have open
00:31:37...all week
00:31:38...one is through email
00:31:39...in
00:31:40...fourth millennium
00:31:41...at sign
00:31:41...four point com
00:31:42...and the other
00:31:43...of course
00:31:43...if they want to send us
00:31:44...a postcard
00:31:45...from the site
00:31:46...where he/she writes to us
00:31:47...or a shipment
00:31:48...with letters
00:31:49...with photographs
00:31:50...they must do it
00:31:51...by regular mail
00:31:52...to Gran Vía street
00:31:53...number 32
00:31:54...third floor
00:31:55...of the 28.013 of Madrid
00:31:56...making it clear
00:31:57...which is for this program
00:31:58...for Cuarto Milenio
00:31:59...and now I assure you
00:32:01...which is essential
00:32:02...not to be missed
00:32:03...what comes next
00:32:04...let's investigate
00:32:05...in one of the secrets
00:32:06...more airtight
00:32:07...that this country has
00:32:08...the Spanish nuclear secret
00:32:09...with one of the accidents
00:32:11...more strange
00:32:12...of all time
00:32:12...and then
00:32:13...we're leaving
00:32:14...to try to find out
00:32:15...the hidden truth
00:32:16...one of the films
00:32:17...more surprising
00:32:19...of the last
00:32:20...years
00:32:20...without a doubt
00:32:21...in the United States
00:32:22...has been a box office smash
00:32:24...and the most terrifying thing
00:32:25...of all this
00:32:25...it's a story
00:32:27...absolutely real
00:32:30...several thousand
00:32:31...meters high
00:32:32...two military aircraft
00:32:33...North Americans
00:32:34...refuel
00:32:35...are
00:32:36...a heavy bomber
00:32:38...long-range
00:32:39B-52
00:32:39...and a tanker plane
00:32:41KC-135
00:32:42...the first one is loaded
00:32:44...with four nuclear bombs
00:32:45...of hydrogen
00:32:46...74 times more powerful
00:32:48...that they would destroy
00:32:49...Japanese cities
00:32:50...from Hiroshima and Nagasaki
00:32:51...the second
00:32:53...flies with its tanks
00:32:54...filled with kerosene
00:32:55...flammable
00:32:56...in the delicate maneuver
00:32:57...of approach
00:32:58...a calculation error
00:33:00...never clarified
00:33:01...unleashes the disaster
00:33:02...has begun
00:33:06...
00:33:14...this is the quiet one
00:33:15...Quitapellejos beach
00:33:16...precise location
00:33:18...in which 40 years ago
00:33:19...Camp Wilson was set up
00:33:21...an enclave that was dismantled
00:33:23...so fast
00:33:23...which some people find difficult today
00:33:25...to believe that it really existed
00:33:27...
00:33:30...broken arrow
00:33:31...broken arrow
00:33:32...he repeated over and over again
00:33:33...the terrified Ivan Buchanan
00:33:35...American commander
00:33:36...falling from a height of 9,000 meters
00:33:38...on the coasts of Almería
00:33:41...when several farmers and fishermen
00:33:42...they picked him up
00:33:43...half-dying
00:33:44...repeated another word
00:33:45...we're all dead and we're all going to die
00:33:47...what did he mean
00:33:49...minutes earlier
00:33:50...around 10 in the morning
00:33:51...of that day in January 1966
00:33:53...a major nuclear catastrophe had occurred
00:33:55...the biggest
00:33:57...and the most hidden in history
00:33:58...since then everything is silent
00:34:00...everything is secret
00:34:01...very little information
00:34:02...we have tried to attend
00:34:04...to learn how those peoples
00:34:05...are still alive after 40 years
00:34:06...of that tragedy
00:34:07...that tragedy
00:34:08...which became a miracle
00:34:09...because if it had exploded
00:34:10...those four bombs
00:34:11...much more powerful
00:34:12...than those of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
00:34:14...nothing would remain
00:34:15...from all over the province of Almería
00:34:18...taking advantage of this 40th anniversary
00:34:19...we wanted to test
00:34:21...the voice of the people
00:34:22...we have gone in search
00:34:23...of what happened
00:34:24...with the Palomares bombs
00:34:29...10:22 in the morning
00:34:31...of January 17, 1966
00:34:34...the Almerian hamlet of Palomares
00:34:36...has woken up like any other winter day
00:34:39...with the same peace of mind as always
00:34:41...the fishermen
00:34:42...they are out at sea fishing
00:34:44...for hours now
00:34:45...at several thousand meters high
00:34:48...two American military aircraft
00:34:50...refuel
00:34:51...they are a heavy bomber
00:34:54...long-range B-52
00:34:55...and a KC-135 tanker aircraft
00:34:58...the first one is loaded
00:35:00...with four hydrogen nuclear bombs
00:35:02...74 times more powerful
00:35:04...that they would destroy
00:35:05...the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki
00:35:07...the second
00:35:09...flies with its tanks
00:35:10...filled with flammable kerosene
00:35:11...in the delicate approach maneuver
00:35:14...a miscalculation that was never clarified
00:35:17...unleashes the disaster
00:35:18...and so begins one of the most serious nuclear accidents in history
00:35:22...and at the same time
00:35:23...the least known of all
00:35:30...Joaquin, look, they're giving each other food
00:35:32...and then they point him out to me.
00:35:36...I peek out without looking up
00:35:37...and saying this
00:35:38...boom
00:35:38...that thing catches fire
00:35:40...and that's it
00:35:40...down
00:35:41...it was extremely windy
00:35:42...and the whole sky full of obstacles
00:35:45...there it is, out to sea
00:35:46...Joaquín Rico
00:35:47...74 years old
00:35:49...he remembers it as if that scene
00:35:51...it would have been seared into his mind
00:35:54...along with other fishermen from the port
00:35:56...he immediately set sail in his boat
00:35:58...hoping to find some crew members alive
00:36:01...it all happened in just a few seconds
00:36:04...and that sky changed color
00:36:06...as if from one moment to the next
00:36:08...was going to crack
00:36:09...we didn't know what had happened
00:36:12...well, until this afternoon
00:36:14...it was actually known that they were two planes that had collided
00:36:17...we didn't know the reasons either.
00:36:19...they forbade us from going out into the street
00:36:20...and walk around the places where the pieces of the airplanes were.
00:36:24...and so we remained until a little before dark
00:36:28...buses began to appear
00:36:32...who were coming loaded with soldiers from Rota and Morón
00:36:35...Americans
00:36:36...and later that night I remember the whole sea was illuminated
00:36:40...and it was the American Sixth Fleet that was already there
00:36:44...the information trickles in
00:36:46...in Palomares, no one yet suspects the invisible threat looming over them
00:36:51...two of the four atomic bombs lost when they violently collided with the ground
00:36:56...have detonated their lethal payload, releasing several kilograms of plutonium-239
00:37:01...one has fallen into the sea
00:37:03...another one in the Almanzora riverbed
00:37:06...the third one in the vicinity of the cemetery
00:37:09...and the last one in the middle of the town's urban area.
00:37:13...just a few meters from Antonia Flores' house
00:37:17...these are artifacts that could have wiped out the entire province
00:37:21...in the blink of an eye
00:37:23...the children approached them and even played with the greenish substance inside.
00:37:29...it was like a rather large cylinder and I was playing with the tapes
00:37:34...I don't know if you can say I was playing, but I didn't know what it was.
00:37:38...and we were actually playing it; the Civil Guard quickly cordoned off the area
00:37:42...and he prohibited entry, but of course there were many of us.
00:37:45...and there were very few Civil Guard officers, and we went around to the places and touched things.
00:37:51...in an unprecedented landing, 2,200 marines
00:37:55...130 submariners from the various elite units of the navy
00:37:58...34 warships
00:38:00...5,000 submarines
00:38:02...and 75 scientists with the latest top-secret technology
00:38:06...they landed on that inhospitable and almost uninhabited coast
00:38:10...a small town made up of tents
00:38:13...it was built on the shores of the Mediterranean overnight
00:38:16...the neighbors, astonished
00:38:18...they saw the birth of an improvised city that was called Camp Huizo
00:38:23...because it was a situation that seemed more like something out of a movie than real life.
00:38:32...equipped with cumbersome suits and chemical disinfection materials
00:38:35...the soldiers barely spoke with the residents of Palomares
00:38:39...their goal was only one
00:38:42...decontaminate the affected area and resolve the crisis of the loss of a hydrogen bomb
00:38:46...Operation Broken Arrow
00:38:50...it will be the second military vision after that of Vietnam
00:38:53...the most expensive in the history of the United States up to that point
00:38:56...although unlike this one, it happened with its back to the world
00:39:00...enveloped in a silence that still lingers
00:39:05...Isabel Álvarez de Toledo, Duchess of Medina Sidonia
00:39:08...he went to Palomares to carry out one of the first studies on this matter
00:39:12...they say, well, they assure this treaty that we have here
00:39:15...Dovecotes, memory
00:39:17...carried out 30 years later because it was censored
00:39:20...the first official version of these events that she experienced
00:39:23...then we'll listen to it and we'll see it
00:39:24...was censored
00:39:26...I'll read you a short excerpt
00:39:28...so that you can get an idea of what might have happened in that small town in Almería
00:39:31...he says, Uncle Pedro's bomb
00:39:33...the one who was commenting on Luis Álvarez's report
00:39:35...fell in the middle of the village
00:39:37...it was the main attraction because it was the closest
00:39:40...all around him were all sorts of memories
00:39:42...pieces of metal
00:39:43...the children were playing with the paste inside the bomb
00:39:47...the older ones tried to find out its composition
00:39:50...cutting it with pieces of razor blade
00:39:52...all this happened in Palomares
00:39:54...and the people, those good people, didn't know what they were facing
00:39:57...today we are joined by an exceptional expert and a witness.
00:40:00...to shed some light on this matter
00:40:02...this story of Palomares marks 40 years since its beginning.
00:40:04...he is Julio Barceló, advisor to the Nuclear Safety Council
00:40:08...Don Julio, good evening, welcome
00:40:10...good night
00:40:11...what could have happened in Palomares
00:40:13...let's see, four bombs more powerful than Hiroshima and Nagasaki
00:40:17...fall upon that small town
00:40:18...had it exploded with all its power
00:40:20...what would have happened in that area
00:40:22...man, if it had exploded it would have been a disaster
00:40:25...the thing is, they weren't thrown, they fell
00:40:28...therefore, what actually happened
00:40:31...that's what has been explained a little in the report
00:40:35...that the four bombs that came loose
00:40:38...of the plane that had the accident
00:40:41...two fell virtually intact
00:40:44...the one by the sea and this one in the center of the village
00:40:50...and the other two broke
00:40:53...and there was a small explosion from the conventional part
00:40:59...which caused it to scatter
00:41:01...therefore, in essence, it wasn't a catastrophe
00:41:07...but it was a very serious problem
00:41:09...because it's the first one, and practically the first one we've ever known about.
00:41:13...the only time a military nuclear accident of this magnitude has occurred on civilian territory
00:41:20...when one looks at the press documents that were published about the Palomares affair
00:41:25...the aim was to prevent panic from spreading
00:41:27Everything is under control, calm in Almería
00:41:30...it's very curious to see the trail of information
00:41:33...we get the feeling, 40 years later, that it is true that there were many things that were not told
00:41:37...perhaps due to lack of knowledge or because it wasn't worth getting involved in them
00:41:42...Don Julio, do you think there was a certain silence, a suppression of this news throughout that whole process of what happened?
00:41:47in Palomares?
00:41:48Did I read about top secret?
00:41:51Of course
00:41:54...but let's also look at it again in context
00:41:56...of course, because it was a military action
00:41:59...and even today, let's say, with the importance that the nuclear issue has generated
00:42:06...the issue of proliferation
00:42:08...in all multinational treaties, in all forums, the military issue is left out
00:42:13...therefore, the secrecy surrounding military matters is evident
00:42:17...but it is also evident, and has been seen in the first part of the report
00:42:21...when people said, listen, back then there was no radio, no television
00:42:25...I suppose that if there was a movie theater in Palomares, there would have been some kind of hub that could have given them some information
00:42:31...of other things, of some war
00:42:33...that is, on the one hand there was no interest in providing information and on the other hand there were very few
00:42:38channels to give them the information
00:42:40...now things would be totally different, wouldn't they? Of course
00:42:44Do you know that there are many people in Palomares and Villaricos who say that Fraga, the famous Fraga bath
00:42:49...the one we're about to see again, and of which we've seen some images, didn't it happen exactly there?
00:42:53Do you think it's part of an urban legend? Of the fear of nuclear power?
00:42:55...that the ministers bathed elsewhere and not there, out of fear
00:43:01...I have no idea where it went
00:43:05...what is true is that it was a pure and simple image campaign, wasn't it?
00:43:10...to prove that nothing had happened there
00:43:12...therefore, and the fact was that this had to be published whether they had bathed in Palomares or in Alicante
00:43:20...because it was of very little importance, wasn't it?
00:43:22Curious words, because that kind of urban legend, that rumor, has not left Palomares in 40 years
00:43:27...our colleague Luis Álvarez confirmed it on site
00:43:31...seeing how many people still didn't believe that story
00:43:35...I believe it is one of the most famous bathrooms in the history of our country
00:43:38...was the moment when the Minister of Tourism, Manuel Fragueri Barne
00:43:43...he tried to demonstrate, given the fear that this issue of the bombs was already beginning to cause
00:43:46...and especially because one couldn't find oneself, one couldn't find where one was, that device could be radiating out of the air.
00:43:51...because he said that fear had to be eliminated
00:43:53...and what better way to do it than to bathe bare-chested in those waters?
00:43:57...waters we have revisited to try to gauge what the people think of what happened
00:44:02...a great disaster, as we have said, and a great miracle
00:44:07...this is the quiet beach of Quitapellejos
00:44:10...the exact location where Camp Wilson was established 40 years ago
00:44:14...an enclave that was dismantled so quickly that some today find it hard to believe it ever really existed
00:44:20...the truth is that 5,500 barrels loaded with radioactive material departed from this place
00:44:26...bound for a point in the Atlantic that has not yet been revealed exactly
00:44:38...Isabel Álvarez de Toledo, Duchess of Medina Sidonia, was interested from the outset in the development of the crisis
00:44:45...and he personally travels to the area with the intention of informing the residents about their rights
00:44:51...convinced of the radioactive danger that loomed over the town and its inhabitants
00:44:55...this woman with a fascinating biography, better known as the Red Duchess
00:45:00...he witnessed firsthand the first hours of the Parpares tragedy
00:45:04...after his first trip he experienced firsthand the pressure of silence and censorship
00:45:10...hydrogen bombs don't normally fall on people's heads every day
00:45:18...that revealed an agreement that had to be denounced
00:45:22...an agreement by the United States that had to be denounced
00:45:25...who had nothing but Japan and Spain
00:45:27...and the only way to be able to denounce that agreement
00:45:32...was to make the residents of Paromares aware of what had happened
00:45:38...CIEMAT, the state agency responsible for measuring existing radiation levels
00:45:44...and to periodically monitor the health of the residents
00:45:47...has developed numerous analysis programs
00:45:49...to determine the risks to which the inhabitants of the region are exposed
00:45:54...for the past 40 years many of them have had to undergo various tests
00:45:59...scattered throughout the area are still a number of meters
00:46:03...who are silent witnesses to what happened
00:46:07...according to scientific analysis, swimming on these Paromares coasts
00:46:10...it poses no risk, neither today nor 40 years ago when they did it
00:46:13...Manuel Fraga, Franco's minister, and the American ambassador
00:46:16...although there is a rumor in the town of Paromares and the surrounding area
00:46:20...that these historical images were never stolen here
00:46:34I don't know anyone from here in Paromares yet.
00:46:37...I'm telling you about Paromares or the municipality of Cuevas
00:46:40...that he said he saw him bathing in Paromares
00:46:42Well, I've been told that she took a bath, but not specifically here.
00:46:45...that where he bathed was specifically in Mojácar, on Mojácar beach
00:46:50...on the other hand, we know that he came that same year
00:46:54...to inaugurate the Mojácar Parador.
00:46:56...because he was Minister of Information and Tourism
00:46:58That's what the oldest people around here say.
00:47:01...I don't know, they say it with a bit of...
00:47:04...about what...
00:47:06...out of anger because...
00:47:07...why not...
00:47:09...he didn't come here specifically to bathe
00:47:10They say he bathed here
00:47:12...but of course, everyone can get...
00:47:15...I don't think so, eh?
00:47:16...because I haven't met anyone who says they bathed here either
00:47:24To date, there is no systematic epidemiological study
00:47:28...that asserts that the incident may have had a decisive impact on the health of its inhabitants
00:47:33However, all information in this regard remains shrouded in secrecy.
00:47:38...and as you can see, we are ordinary citizens...
00:47:41...nor do we respond to the theories of some people or to what many people think
00:47:45...we don't have an antenna, we're not green, we're just ordinary citizens
00:47:49...and that we want to live in complete normality.
00:47:52...and how wonderful that event that occurred in 1966
00:47:56...so that it is not a burden on our possibilities for economic and social development
00:48:01...what fault is it of ours, whether they are well or ill, but they shouldn't come through here
00:48:06...there are places where you can turn around and avoid this.
00:48:10...but anyway, it happened and that's how it is
00:48:12Forty years have passed since that tragedy, which could have been the greatest cataclysm of recent centuries.
00:48:18Today there are too many doubts and only one certainty.
00:48:23Palomares is the fruit of a miracle
00:48:25...of a kind of luck that gave him a second chance at life
00:48:28...after that fateful morning
00:48:30...in which the sky was filled with fire
00:48:37We saw our colleague Luis Álvarez immersing himself in the clean and wonderful waters of Palomares
00:48:42...and I made sure that nothing strange had happened to him, at least for the time being.
00:48:46After this little note of humor
00:48:48...let's move on to something else, something I think much more serious
00:48:49...in the sense that there are surprising reports
00:48:52...are from the Center for Energy, Environmental and Technological Research
00:48:56...the CIEMAT
00:48:58I'm sure this is surprising to me and to many of you.
00:49:00...I say this because it seems unbelievable
00:49:0240 years later, many residents of those towns
00:49:04...they have to keep going for thorough tests
00:49:07As you know, we spoke with Julio Barceló, advisor to the Nuclear Safety Council.
00:49:14Are these types of tests still being done on the people who lived there?
00:49:17And it has continued to be done from the very beginning.
00:49:20In other words, the incident happened in January of '66 and in February of '66
00:49:25The US Department of Energy and the Spanish Government had already signed a collaboration agreement to monitor the situation.
00:49:33At that time it was clear that it had to be done that way because it was necessary to know
00:49:41First, not only did the entire area have to be decontaminated, but it was also necessary to see if this had an impact
00:49:48What we always call the acute phase
00:49:51In other words, at the time of the accident there could have been people around.
00:49:55There could have been a spread that affected people, and that needed to be monitored.
00:50:02I believe that both at CEMAC and in the Council we are convinced that we can follow up with people.
00:50:09And we are certain that there is no problem
00:50:14There wasn't one then, and there isn't one now.
00:50:17But in this field, conviction is useless without evidence.
00:50:20Therefore, for the peace of mind of the entire area
00:50:24And as a precautionary measure, testing continues on samples from about a hundred people.
00:50:32A little more, a little less
00:50:34Every year you have tests to see that nothing is wrong.
00:50:38And indeed all the results
00:50:40The Council receives an analysis of these results every six months.
00:50:44But this is not all; it is also accompanied by an environmental analysis.
00:50:51Also to see how the area is evolving
00:50:53Because, let's say, we're talking about radioactive isotopes that are moving
00:50:58How can they affect human beings?
00:50:59Plutonium, for example, we're talking about
00:51:01What can a human being die from, let's put it that way?
00:51:05Why is he near plutonium? Why is he breathing it?
00:51:08It must be inhaled or ingested
00:51:10Because then it stays throughout the entire digestive system, throughout the entire tract
00:51:15And so, the radiation it contains can cause problems, right?
00:51:22And that can lead to different types, right?
00:51:24Could be...
00:51:24In fact, then, the fear surrounding plutonium stems from the fact that it is carcinogenic, isn't it?
00:51:29And prolonged residence within the human body can produce harmful effects
00:51:37Well, in Palomares it seems that, of course, one can breathe easy.
00:51:41Anyway, I can't resist saying goodbye, Don Julio, without asking a question
00:51:44And the fact is that many friends of Cuarto Milenio have asked us about a great conspiracy
00:51:48Because of one of those elements, I don't know if it's an urban legend or not, but it intrigues people
00:51:51There is much talk about the Spanish nuclear bomb
00:51:53Of the attempts in the 1970s, early 1970s
00:51:56For trying to make a nuclear bomb
00:51:58Did all that stop? Is there any truth to it? Can you tell us anything?
00:52:02Well, when...
00:52:04Normally, when it's collusion, people don't know about it, right?
00:52:07Yes, it is true that in the 50s and 60s
00:52:11The Nuclear Energy Board was created to train technicians, wasn't it?
00:52:17In the different fields and areas of nuclear energy
00:52:23Let's say for peaceful uses, right?
00:52:25Although transparency was never the most important thing, not even back then.
00:52:31There is no doubt that it could be used for meditation
00:52:34And it is also evident that when one has the technical ability
00:52:38Because it has trained people and it has the resources
00:52:41So then you can use this ability for anything, right?
00:52:45You might be tempted, right?
00:52:47Indeed, well, there's no need to look at Spain either.
00:52:50Because we can look at how many countries are currently in the eye of the storm because of these things, right?
00:52:56Mr. Julio Barceló, thank you very much for shedding light on this matter.
00:53:0040 years ago, it seems unbelievable, doesn't it?
00:53:01Regarding the Palomares affair
00:53:02And in the end, what's also curious is that a fisherman whom nobody paid attention to...
00:53:05Francisco Simó, Paco the bomb man, was ultimately the one who found the bomb
00:53:08That's the most curious thing about this story
00:53:11That's how things go.
00:53:12Indeed
00:53:13Well, about this matter of the lost bomb
00:53:16Regarding the matter of the alleged hydrogen bomb and its tests
00:53:19And above all, regarding the matter of the hypothetical Spanish nuclear bomb
00:53:23So much is written, so much is speculated
00:53:25Our colleague Santiago Camacho is speaking to us.
00:53:30The Palomares atomic bomb affair
00:53:33It's related to another story
00:53:35That we will possibly discuss in a future episode of Cuarto Milenio
00:53:38It's something halfway there
00:53:39Between urban legend and conspiracy theory
00:53:42What is the hypothetical construction by the military?
00:53:47From the time of General Franco's dictatorship
00:53:49Spanish nuclear weapons
00:53:51Or at least to have tried
00:53:53In any case, if one of these devices had exploded in Almería
00:53:58The consequences give us an idea of what they could have been like.
00:54:01Discovering that in 1952
00:54:03When the Americans tested the first H-bomb in the Marshall Islands
00:54:08An explosion of 100 times was expected.
00:54:10The power of the Hiroshima atomic bomb
00:54:13What was actually found was a bomb 750 times more powerful
00:54:18That of Hiroshima
00:54:20The ships were full of military observers and scientists.
00:54:23The ships that were around within the security perimeter
00:54:25They were affected by the shockwave
00:54:27The ecosystem of the Marshall Islands was irrevocably and forever altered.
00:54:32Its inhabitants had to be evacuated in a diaspora that lasts to this day.
00:54:37All of that could have happened in Almería.
00:54:40Had one of those bombs exploded
00:54:45It is very clear that technological advancement can be harmful to human beings
00:54:49What we have described regarding Palomares is a clear example
00:54:51But it is equally true that technology helps us achieve dreams we never even imagined before.
00:54:56For example, can you imagine what it's like to have precise cameras monitoring places 24 hours a day?
00:55:02Where apparently or supposedly specters, apparitions, ghosts arise
00:55:07Carmen Porter, that's how it is, isn't it?
00:55:08This was reported to us by one of the internet users who is a viewer of this program.
00:55:13Rubén Celada from Barcelona told us about Ghost Cams
00:55:16They appear to be ghost-hunting cameras
00:55:19They are located in places where the specters of beings who died years ago supposedly appear.
00:55:25In this case there are several
00:55:27One of them is located in the Willard Library in Indiana.
00:55:31That's what they say there, especially the people who work nights in the area.
00:55:35A lady dressed in gray appears
00:55:38Many internet users, and many viewers as well, will be able to verify this.
00:55:42If they go into their computer and look for that library, that Ghost Cam
00:55:46And they will be able to do their experiments, they will be able to be in front of that camera
00:55:50And see if someone appears in front of your computer.
00:55:53But technology can also bring surprises when, for example,
00:55:56It applies to research on a television screen
00:55:59It happened to one of our viewers, Carlos Martín
00:56:03He writes to us from Rivas, Bacia, Madrid
00:56:06He, after watching the program in which we broadcast a report on psychoimages
00:56:10He started experimenting at home and got a surprise.
00:56:13Because as you can see, two faces have appeared on that television screen.
00:56:19But that's just how mystery is.
00:56:21That bursts into our homes, onto our televisions
00:56:24When you least expect it
00:56:25When you least expect it, never a truer word spoken
00:56:27But they're expensive, maybe that's saying a lot.
00:56:29They are truly someone's face, a human being's face.
00:56:32Or are they simply perfectly explainable technological errors?
00:56:37What is certain is that sometimes the mystery breaks in
00:56:39It's almost capital letters
00:56:41Because there are things that happen in front of the camera
00:56:43Almost without one noticing
00:56:45At least that's what that photo looks like, Carmen
00:56:46That was the question our friend Mario Jaén Ortiz was asking.
00:56:51He was taking a photograph in the Basilica of San Vicente
00:56:54In Ávila
00:56:55When something came between the camera
00:56:57And the building behind it
00:57:00Our IT analyst
00:57:02He said it could be two things
00:57:04Truly explainable
00:57:06The first was that we had an insect in the foreground.
00:57:09Extremely close to the camera lens
00:57:12So much so that the limbs are perfectly visible
00:57:15The body, the head
00:57:16And even those antennas that we can see
00:57:18He also made the comparison with one of those insects
00:57:21And the truth is, it does look very similar.
00:57:23But there is a second option
00:57:25Just a little joke
00:57:26It would be a toy animal
00:57:28Hence the explanation for the strange vertical line.
00:57:31What can be seen in that image
00:57:33I don't know what's scarier.
00:57:34If a supposed ghostly apparition
00:57:37Or an insect with that appearance
00:57:38Of course, Guillermo León
00:57:39Our IT analyst
00:57:40He doesn't miss a single thread.
00:57:42If we're talking about mystery
00:57:44Without a doubt
00:57:45Sometimes, even nature itself
00:57:47The rocks, the valleys
00:57:48They can cause curious optical phenomena
00:57:51That's what happened in the caves of Zugarramurdi
00:57:54Do you remember?
00:57:55We broadcast a program from there.
00:57:57Where we displayed witchcraft
00:57:59Which was once done in these caves
00:58:02Rubén Rojo also went to visit them
00:58:05And he noticed that there were strange formations
00:58:07They looked like faces
00:58:09That appeared on the stone
00:58:10That's how he sent us the images
00:58:12He told us.
00:58:13And we show them to you
00:58:14Faces in those caves of ancient witchcraft
00:58:18And if you like, Carmen
00:58:19We went from spontaneous phenomena
00:58:21Instantaneous, I would say.
00:58:22Of those who arrive
00:58:23They surprise you and then they leave
00:58:24And let's move on to something much more timeless
00:58:26By the way, what I have in my hand
00:58:27This book has a unique appearance
00:58:30Burnt at the tips
00:58:31Perhaps from the candles
00:58:32In the exorcisms he has witnessed
00:58:34It is the Roman ritual
00:58:36The Catholic Church guide
00:58:38For centuries
00:58:39To confront the demon
00:58:41With words, questions and answers
00:58:43Among the supposed evil entity
00:58:45And the priest
00:58:46And here on Fourth Millennium
00:58:47We're going to have the testimony
00:58:49From one of the exorcists
00:58:51That operate in Spain
00:58:52They face this phenomenon
00:58:53Incidentally, this mystery
00:58:55It's more fashionable than ever
00:58:56Cinema has brought him back to prominence.
00:58:58Number one at the box office in the United States
00:59:00The Exorcism of Emily Rose
00:59:02And tonight we're going to find out
00:59:03The true story
00:59:04As usual
00:59:05The harsh reality
00:59:06It surpasses any fiction
00:59:08With Father Fortea
00:59:09With psychiatrists
00:59:10And with a series of documents
00:59:11Let's try to resolve the big question
00:59:13The one who pursues man
00:59:14Since he became a man
00:59:15Is he evil?
00:59:17Or are they demons?
00:59:18From our own minds?
00:59:19Emily
00:59:21Hey
00:59:28It has begun
00:59:49The truth is that reading
00:59:53Today in the 21st century
00:59:55The Romanum ritual
00:59:56It continues to produce
00:59:57A curious feeling
00:59:59It doesn't matter how many centuries it is.
01:00:00That have passed
01:00:01And it gives us the impression
01:00:02What to talk about
01:00:03The devil's.
01:00:04From the devil
01:00:05From the prince
01:00:05From the darkness
01:00:06It still has certain dangers
01:00:08Let me explain
01:00:37In 1973
01:00:39But the truth is
01:00:40But the truth is, the truth is
01:00:40It's that everyone who participated
01:00:42In that tape
01:00:43Well, they had certain consequences
01:00:45There were several deaths
01:00:46Several in circumstances
01:00:47Also very malicious
01:00:49Even
01:00:50The actress who starred
01:00:51This story in theater
01:00:52In the theater of comedy
01:00:53From London
01:00:53Mari Ure
01:00:54He made a kind
01:00:55A brilliant performance
01:00:56People were saying
01:00:57Gee
01:00:58She seems to be possessed
01:00:59Really
01:00:59The next day
01:01:00When your manager
01:01:01And her husband
01:01:01They came with the criticisms
01:01:03They found her
01:01:04Arms outstretched
01:01:05Covered in green vomit
01:01:06It was the only performance
01:01:08The Exorcist in theater
01:01:09Therefore
01:01:10It's normal
01:01:11That there are certain precautions.
01:01:13Even today
01:01:14To address this issue
01:01:15So dark
01:01:16So dark
01:01:16So far away
01:01:18Of all things
01:01:19However
01:01:20A series of courageous directors
01:01:21And from producers
01:01:22They have launched
01:01:23The Exorcism of Emily Rose
01:01:24And the consequences
01:01:26They didn't take long to arrive.
01:01:27Number one at the box office
01:01:28And that feeling again
01:01:29That kind of
01:01:31Sphere
01:01:32Or a different atmosphere
01:01:33What one gets oneself into
01:01:34When he speaks of Beelzebub
01:01:35From Satan
01:01:36From Belial
01:01:36Of so many names
01:01:38To describe evil
01:01:39It's curious.
01:01:40Because all the experts
01:01:41On these topics
01:01:42They claim that, for example
01:01:43Occultism
01:01:44Spiritism
01:01:45A fascination with the occult sciences
01:01:47Sometimes they are a door
01:01:48A black door
01:01:50A dark door
01:01:50That leads us
01:01:51Towards the lands
01:01:52Of the evil one
01:01:54Some even say
01:01:55That the phenomena
01:01:57That are just beginning to happen to him
01:01:58They have precise time.
01:01:59Three in the morning
01:02:01There are also those who claim
01:02:03That it's three in the afternoon
01:02:04It is the hour of shadows
01:02:05And three in the morning
01:02:07The time
01:02:08Of the demons
01:02:09And three in the morning
01:02:54To talk about this matter, so sensitive, so strange, so secret
01:02:57and that it is situated on a very thin line that separates psychiatry
01:03:02Regarding mystical or religious phenomena, we have two exceptional guests.
01:03:07Father José Antonio Fortea, who you know perfectly well is involved in this story, the story of Emily Rose,
01:03:14It corresponds to a real, true, authentic story.
01:03:17It is based on real events, indeed, yes.
01:03:21Did it happen in Germany?
01:03:22Yes, he began to experience the first symptoms in 1968 and it all came to an end in 1976.
01:03:32And as the film tells us—and we don't want to spoil it, of course—for viewers who want to go
01:03:37Let's see her,
01:03:38There is a priest who appears to perform an exorcism, the girl dies, and then he is prosecuted.
01:03:43Did this also happen in real life?
01:03:45In reality, they were two priests who had no experience whatsoever in the field of exorcism.
01:03:52And then something happened that sometimes happens: the demon prevented the possessed person from eating, and he began to lose weight.
01:04:02The family wanted their daughter to be exorcised; the daughter was older, of course.
01:04:08The young woman also wanted to be exorcised, but the weight loss was fatal before the exorcism could be completed.
01:04:18If they had been experienced priests in this field, they would have known what to do.
01:04:25Unfortunately, this phenomenon of him not being able to eat caught them by surprise, and eventually there was a trial which they lost.
01:04:34As we always say on Cuarto Milenio, reality surpasses any fiction.
01:04:39no matter how elaborate the fiction is and how full of shocking images as those of the exorcism of Emily Rose.
01:04:44We are also joined by Jesús Sánchez Caro, a psychiatrist, who can help us shed light on that other mystery, which is the part
01:04:50dark of the mind.
01:04:51Welcome, good evening.
01:04:52Good night.
01:04:53We are seeing paranormal phenomena, a very big obsession.
01:04:57Possession or obsession?
01:05:00Hard to say, isn't it?
01:05:02The images I've seen have led me to think long and hard before I can make an accurate diagnosis.
01:05:12On the one hand, symptoms typical of schizophrenia appear, hallucinations appear.
01:05:20On the other hand, there are also seizures.
01:05:24We could also talk about epileptic symptoms, couldn't we?
01:05:26There is a rigidity of the limbs, which would indicate a generalized tonic-type epilepsy, as we call it.
01:05:34Doctor, this girl, Emily Rose, and her absolutely real character, the event occurred in Germany,
01:05:40He began to live his life as a true hell.
01:05:42Visions, hallucinations, in class, in the park, at home,
01:05:47She began to see demonic beings that tormented her.
01:05:52No, no, no, no, no.
01:06:31What would be the key symptoms, the precise symptoms for the church, a representative of the church,
01:06:37I mean, for crying out loud, I'm no longer dealing with a mental illness here, however severe it may be,
01:06:42Or am I facing something else?
01:06:44We, the church, consider that there are some cases, very few, in which preternatural, inexplicable events occur.
01:06:54It's impossible to explain how an old woman from a small town, suddenly, if you speak to her in Latin, understands Latin.
01:07:00If you speak to him in Greek, Greek, or even Korean.
01:07:03Tests have been conducted on speaking Korean to certain possessed individuals,
01:07:06They already understand Korean, German, four very strange languages; they tested it in Italy with a possessed person.
01:07:14And he understood perfectly, he responded in a concrete way.
01:07:19Levitation has been seen by various witnesses.
01:07:23The strength that may seem like a small symptom, I have known psychiatrists who have said,
01:07:29I've really seen many stereoform crises, but a crisis like this, never in my life.
01:07:36These are all indications, and in some cases few, proofs that there is something more to the cause than just a problem
01:07:47mental.
01:07:47There are scenes that perfectly highlight this type of phenomenon.
01:07:59Emily?
01:08:12Can you hear me?
01:08:17A person turned into practically a human ball.
01:08:21Is there any explanation for this? Is it possible for a person to modify their body in this way?
01:08:26Well, I haven't seen it in over 30 years of psychiatric experience.
01:08:32Making a diagnosis based on film, I repeat, is virtually impossible.
01:08:42Film directors make movies the way they actually do, God knows.
01:08:47Scientists see things differently.
01:08:52But within the possibility of a diagnosis, apart from those we have discussed,
01:08:58Epilepsy, schizophrenia, etc., the key in the possessed lies in a series of disorders
01:09:08which in psychiatry we know as dissociative disorders.
01:09:12What are dissociative disorders?
01:09:15I wish I could explain this to all our viewers, because this is real.
01:09:21Dissociative disorders are mental disorders in which consciousness is altered,
01:09:29The person's identity is altered, their memory is altered
01:09:34and the perception of the environment in which that person is located is altered.
01:09:39Another dissociative disorder is multiple personality disorder or multiple personalities.
01:09:44or as it is now said in the latest classification of mental illnesses,
01:09:49a dissociative identity disorder,
01:09:52which could be the case for Emily Ross.
01:09:55But never reaching that limit of physically forcing his body in that way.
01:09:59He acquires a new identity, and that new identity in the possession
01:10:03It's because she is possessed by an evil spirit.
01:10:06What we are about to see would fall under the category of total abnormality.
01:10:11Experts on this matter say so from a psychiatric and religious point of view.
01:10:15This would be the definitive proof that something very strange is happening to a person.
01:10:20Speaking in languages one does not know.
01:10:22To speak perfectly in languages that are completely unknown to that individual
01:10:25and that, of course, he is a child.
01:10:27One of these first cases, incidentally, occurred in Spain, in Villafranca de los Barros,
01:10:30It happened more than two centuries ago, and several notarial records remain about a girl of about three months old.
01:10:34The strange thing is that he spoke, but on top of that, he spoke Latin.
01:10:37These cases have apparently continued, and experts call it xenoglossia.
01:10:42Let's lift it off the ground.
01:11:01Alice, no!
01:11:05Alice, no!
01:11:35Senoglossia, speaking unknown languages.
01:11:37Don José Antonio Fortea, have you encountered any experience of this type that is so extreme?
01:11:42Yes, in the field of languages I have encountered people who spoke very strange languages.
01:11:52I've discussed it with a linguist.
01:11:54The problem is that it's difficult to identify a language because it could be a dialect of Brazilian Spanish.
01:12:00It could be a dialect of Iranian, it could be an African dialect that existed two thousand years ago.
01:12:09And what is most common in these cases?
01:12:12Well, those usually speak unknown languages, they don't usually speak known languages.
01:12:17I have only encountered one case, speaking European languages, which I obviously did not know.
01:12:24But it wasn't very conclusive either, because what he said was rather simplistic.
01:12:29What I do think is more interesting, and this has been proven,
01:12:35It is the power to understand the exorcist's specific commands in languages, even dead languages.
01:12:43That is, to answer you, for example, when with the Romanum ritual you say a series of phrases
01:12:47and that someone answers him in Latin even if he has no sense or idea of that language, for example.
01:12:51No, the best thing to do is order something he can't even imagine.
01:12:58and with words that bear no resemblance to the Romance languages.
01:13:02Then that does give us a clear indication of whether that person is possessed or not.
01:13:09And over time one can look for orders that are very specific, that leave no room for doubt,
01:13:16Because the demon resists speaking at first, he resists speaking so that the exorcist thinks he is...
01:13:23sick.
01:13:23I have had some cases of possession where the demon made a perfect imitation
01:13:30of a mental illness to throw me off.
01:13:34And I caught him, let's say, by surprise at a certain moment because he spoke a particular language.
01:13:41And he hadn't realized that he had switched to a dead language.
01:13:44So I said, there's something here.
01:13:47But of course, the devil is that he knows a lot about psychiatry, yes.
01:13:50By the way, is there any danger for the exorcist?
01:13:52Cinema has shown us terrible scenes of the priest's death, of assaults.
01:13:57Does this happen?
01:13:58The truth is that yes, talking to other people who do this,
01:14:04Yes, there are quite a few cases where the devil tries to show his rage.
01:14:09And it is true that among people who help exorcists,
01:14:14Well, suddenly in the days following a session, especially at the beginning,
01:14:20The heating turns on by itself, they sense presences, things like that.
01:14:27And also, things that can sometimes be verified, like everyone being in bed and suddenly hearing the boiler start up
01:14:35to work
01:14:35or a device starts up.
01:14:38So, even if they hadn't told the family that they had attended an exorcism session,
01:14:43Yes, sometimes there are small acts of revenge.
01:14:46From a psychiatric perspective, learning a language you don't know and suddenly speaking it,
01:14:51Is there any theory that can identify our brain as a sponge that absorbs information of which we are not aware?
01:14:57I don't know her. I don't believe it.
01:15:00It is not believed, not that there is a theory, but that it will happen.
01:15:03I can't believe that's happening.
01:15:04Scientifically, without admitting it.
01:15:06Scientifically, I haven't... I repeat, it's many years of experience.
01:15:11and I haven't had the opportunity to see any scientific work on this subject.
01:15:16Finally, Father Fortea, why is it that some people are possessed and others are not?
01:15:21Is there a dangerous door that can be knocked on to allow these forces, whatever they may be, to intervene?
01:15:27Will our own demons, or the external demon, come to us?
01:15:31Yes, as a general rule, the demon is around the person and only enters if one opens it up.
01:15:39the door.
01:15:40And the way to open the door is through any invocation of unknown spirits.
01:15:44Ouija boards, spiritualism, Afro-Cuban Santería, New Age rituals, anything related to magic, witchcraft, spells, and incantations
01:15:55invoking spirits.
01:15:56The spirit world is real and spirits can come, but what will come are evil spirits.
01:16:02Father José Antonio Fortea, Jesús Sánchez Caro, psychiatrist, who has tried, well, to show the other side,
01:16:09The other hidden side, perhaps, because there are hidden sides not only on the moon, but also in our brain.
01:16:14I am very grateful, although this topic is very broad, of course, for having shed a little light and provided some concrete data.
01:16:19about this kind of paranoia for some, psychosis for others, and stark reality.
01:16:25I repeat, in the Vatican they have had to increase the printing of the rituale romanum
01:16:30because of the number of people asking for help, help because they believe they are possessed.
01:16:35I would like to end with an exceptional testimony.
01:16:39José Manuel Vidal, a journalist from around the world, had an encounter with the strange.
01:16:43He was a completely agnostic and skeptical person, and he came face to face with human demons.
01:16:51The shadow of evil, listen, watch and give your opinion.
01:16:58Marta was a shock to me; Marta's case was... it was the first time I had ever attended a
01:17:03exorcism,
01:17:04For a journalist, as you can imagine, that was quite an exclusive.
01:17:10And in fact, it was a virtually worldwide exclusive.
01:17:14And it impacted me so much that both I and my colleague from the EFE agency who was with me at that time
01:17:21moment,
01:17:22We couldn't help but go inside, could we?
01:17:24And to see that girl making all sorts of terrible, extremely harsh outward displays,
01:17:33screams, shrieks, eyes rolled back, hands like claws,
01:17:38until a certain moment, at one of the climactic moments, during two hours,
01:17:43in a climactic moment that washes over, rises, and remains for a few seconds,
01:17:48I couldn't say how many, levitating above the green mat, could I?
01:17:53And answering with that otherworldly voice to the questions Father Fortea asked him,
01:17:58That impressed us so much, like I said, my partner and I ended up on our knees.
01:18:03And my partner is agnostic.
01:18:09Currently there are eight exorcists, priests, who exercise this sacred ministry.
01:18:14and who, supposedly, fight against evil.
01:18:17However, there is a whole series of impenetrable obscurities surrounding these matters.
01:18:22Carmen Porter, our colleague, attempted to shed light on this with this book,
01:18:26The Church and its demons, which began in an absolutely dark way.
01:18:30I experienced an exorcism, an unforgettable experience, I imagine.
01:18:34An experience that will forever be etched in our memories.
01:18:37Furthermore, many members of this team accepted that invitation to an official exorcism of the
01:18:42Catholic church.
01:18:43The scene we encountered was truly shocking.
01:18:47A dark room, a 19-year-old girl rolling around on a mattress,
01:18:52animalistic screams, eyes rolling back, for more than three and a half hours,
01:18:57bit her family members who were trying to calm her down.
01:19:00And then the priest, who with those prayers tried to cast out no less than seven demons from his body.
01:19:07The last of them, according to both the possessed woman and the priest, was Zebulun.
01:19:13one of the demons that has appeared most often throughout history.
01:19:17There's the fact. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.
01:19:19Perhaps to better develop that opinion, we could add the following document.
01:19:23We were not allowed to film, we were forbidden to film, of course, such a strange event.
01:19:28that journalists attend a kind of official exorcism.
01:19:31Well, we were able to record the audio.
01:19:33And sometimes the audio is just as valuable as the image.
01:19:36Let's listen to a fragment; I assure you the rest is very unpleasant.
01:19:40But in this fragment, that girl, like any of the viewers of Cuarto Millónio,
01:19:45like any of us, a college girl,
01:19:47who suddenly begins to complain of a strange kind of illness that no one can cure,
01:19:51He begins to speak in a kind of Latin, Arabic, some say, Aramaic.
01:19:56Nobody can agree.
01:19:57Here is the document.
01:19:58In the most holy name of Jesus, come.
01:20:02Say the Hail Mary.
01:20:06Say the Hail Mary.
01:20:14In the name of Jesus, do it, do it.
01:20:25And if this document is amazing, worthy of debate,
01:20:29It is no less true that there are many viewers of Cuarto Millónio
01:20:33who also encounter very strange things,
01:20:35Things that have to do with fire, I don't know if it's diabolical, Carmen.
01:20:39In this case, it is not a fire, much less a diabolical one.
01:20:42Our viewer, our friend Juan José García Silva,
01:20:46He was spending a bonfire night with his friends.
01:20:49when they decided to take some photographs and something really curious came out.
01:20:53There it is, we're seeing it right now.
01:20:55A kind of face emerging from the flames.
01:20:58Guillermo León, who always analyzes our photographs,
01:21:01has recreated that image in three dimensions.
01:21:04He also told us that motion blur is noticeable.
01:21:08and a play of contrasts that may have given rise to the face
01:21:11in a completely casual way.
01:21:14Well, I believe that coincidence always has an element of mystery.
01:21:17What is not a mystery is the way to get in touch
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01:21:39And somewhat overwhelmed by this matter, by these documents,
01:21:42Because of these stories of the devil and his shadow that seems never to leave for good,
01:21:46We continue to investigate.
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