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00:00You want LeBron?
00:02Yeah, I'd like him.
00:03He'd be nice to have.
00:04You willing to give up a unicorn for him?
00:07For LeBron?
00:082-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92.
00:10I think it's going to come flat out to that.
00:12Are you willing to give up Evan Mobley to make sure LeBron comes here?
00:15Now, it's not just Evan Mobley for LeBron.
00:18It would be bringing in Jalen Brown.
00:20I think that's where some of these tentacles are going.
00:23Brian Windhorst was on ESPN yesterday.
00:26Here's what Wendy had to say.
00:27Listen closely.
00:28The league changed this afternoon with LeBron coming on the market.
00:32And not only that, but basically announcing that he's available to just about everybody.
00:36And so start your engines on how you're going to retrofit.
00:39That is a curveball that affected the whole market.
00:41So now let's talk about Jalen Brown.
00:43Jalen Brown has not found a home.
00:44The Celtics have not found a home.
00:46After they tried to send him to Milwaukee for Giannis Tenecumpo over the last week,
00:50they have talked to a number of other teams.
00:51They have failed to get traction on a deal.
00:53Cleveland Cavaliers learned today that LeBron James would be willing to play
00:56for less than his market value salary.
00:58That changed everything.
01:00So how does Cleveland get LeBron James' attention?
01:03Do they show him their beautiful brand new practice facility they're building?
01:06It is awesome.
01:07I saw it this week in Cleveland.
01:08But that is not going to impress them.
01:10What's going to impress them is when they do something with their roster.
01:12What can the Cavs do?
01:13James Harden opted out yesterday.
01:16He is willing to partner with the Cavs to figure out a way how to improve the roster.
01:20Jalen Brown is out there.
01:21Can the Cavs make a move for Jalen Brown?
01:24Then come to LeBron and say, how do you feel about us now?
01:28That's the type of move that you're going to do to get LeBron James' attention.
01:32That's windy on that.
01:33And I'm trying to put two and two together.
01:35Now, putting two and three together here.
01:38Yesterday, we had Justin Termini on the show, and he had brought up how the market is lowered
01:44for Jalen Brown.
01:45Now, he put that on Jalen Brown's personality.
01:48That's what he blamed it on, which we had several listeners pipe in right after.
01:52They went, whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute.
01:53This guy is saying he doesn't want to be there anymore.
01:56If you have a guy openly saying he doesn't want to be there and doesn't want to play for
02:00the Celtics anymore, why do I have to pay full price?
02:04Shams Sharanya, ESPN, he said basically the same thing that the fans were saying yesterday
02:09here on The Fan.
02:14We got to tell me what the fans were saying first.
02:15They were saying that it was if he's saying.
02:21Yeah, you want to get him at a discount.
02:23Is that the premise here?
02:24Here's Shams.
02:25I can't find a team right now that is willing at this moment to give up that amount of draft
02:31capital.
02:31So then it just becomes our Brad Stevens in that front office fine trading away Jalen
02:36Brown for potentially less than that.
02:39Potentially, you know, I had one GM said 40 cents on the dollar is that's because that's
02:43what it's come down to in Boston.
02:45They just have not been able to find teams as of yet to get to that threshold.
02:49We ain't got the picks.
02:50We got the player.
02:51Got it.
02:52Mobley, 24 years old.
02:53He's young.
02:54You willing to do that to bring in Jalen Brown and LeBron?
02:57Because it seems that he LeBron wants the Cavs to make a move.
03:02James Harden is working with the Cavs here.
03:04This is all starting to click into place a little bit.
03:07I want to know from the fans.
03:09Are they willing to make that move to bring LeBron back?
03:11That that shortens your window.
03:12So yes, we got to talk it out a little bit.
03:14Let's talk.
03:14We got to talk it out a little bit.
03:15I'm really curious what fans think, what other media members think.
03:20I'm curious to think what the front office thinks about this.
03:24Because all we've heard is Evan Mobley is untouchable.
03:27But you and I both know.
03:29You're untouchable until you're no longer untouchable.
03:31And plus, there was a chance that they don't move him at all.
03:34And then do you want somebody salty that's been in the mix for a lot of trades?
03:38That's the Jalen Brown situation in Boston.
03:40And there might be, because I don't know what the tenure, what the feeling of the, not tenure,
03:46good God, I don't know what the tenor of the fans is going to be about Evan Mobley.
03:50Like, we could get a bunch of people lining up going, bye, see you, we got to bring LeBron
03:54back.
03:54Or there could be a lot of people who are upset.
03:56But if the fans line up and say, okay, we'll get rid of Evan Mobley to bring in LeBron
04:00and Jalen Brown.
04:01If that trade doesn't happen, and the Cavs were to let out that they were really considering
04:06this, well, then you get the fans kind of against Evan Mobley.
04:10Especially if he messes up.
04:11The fans are already not in a great mood about the Cavs.
04:13So then you kind of get the fans pulling against him, because you're talking about bringing
04:16back the icon, leave the love figure.
04:19Like, there's a lot of ugliness that could happen.
04:21Yeah.
04:21You're not, you certainly don't want to, you know, create any kind of controversy.
04:25We can talk about it all we want, but the Cavs can't.
04:28So, let's talk fit here, right?
04:31And the thing is, Jalen Brown is a better basketball player.
04:35A better two-way player.
04:36In a league right now, where being a two-way player is everything.
04:39Having guys on the perimeter that can hit tough shots if they need to in the highest
04:45of leverage situations.
04:47Well, we've seen that.
04:48We're talking about it with Jalen Brown, an MVP of the NBA Finals.
04:52That's a pretty big deal.
04:53And he showed this year he could put a team on his back in the regular season.
04:59You don't necessarily want him having to do all that in the playoffs, because he's not
05:02a top-five player.
05:04But he is somebody this year I thought was a top-ten player in the league.
05:07And so, you would, to me, you'd be getting better immediately in terms of talent.
05:14But it also creates a hole defensively.
05:18They already weren't a great team defensively last year.
05:20On the interior, you get better defensively on the wing.
05:24And sure, if you have LeBron, LeBron can guard power forwards.
05:27And do you keep Jared Allen in this scenario?
05:30Yeah, in this scenario, yes.
05:32But the fit, the fit is the question.
05:34I saw people saying, well, you're bringing another ball stopper in.
05:38But is the fit good with Evan Mobley right now?
05:41Evan Mobley and Jared Allen, I don't think, can play together.
05:44I don't think in the playoffs, I think it's kind of been proven that there is a ceiling
05:49there to how those guys play together.
05:50That having two guys who are considered big men, neither seven-footers, by the way, that
05:56can't really shoot and not a ton of playmaking, that's a clunky fit, too.
06:03So, as we're talking these things out, you're trying to just figure out, is this a better
06:09alternative than, nobody seems to want to run it back, right?
06:12I know you've lost Dean Wade and you've lost Keon Ellis.
06:15I don't think you're factoring that in big time.
06:17No, not really.
06:18But, it seems like when we talk to Cavs fans, they don't really want to run it back.
06:23So, is this a better version?
06:25Does this get them closer to a championship?
06:27And it's hard for me to say it gets them closer to a championship.
06:31But at the same time, we kind of feel like the team as is, is dead on arrival.
06:36So, what do you do with that information?
06:38How do you compute that?
06:40What do you do if you're Kobe Altman?
06:41Is there another move that you have after that?
06:44Is it just, do the LeBron thing, trade Evan Mobley, and so you're closing your window
06:50even further, clearly.
06:52But, you didn't care about that when you made the Darius Garland move for James Harden.
06:56You weren't worried about, you know, keeping that window open for a long, and by the way,
07:00the windows all shut way sooner than you think they are.
07:04So, as I'm talking it out, does it seem more appealing to you?
07:08Obviously, you get LeBron.
07:09Is my goal now to win a championship, or is it to keep the window open?
07:13I know everybody would like to do both.
07:14I think you're going to have to make a decision here.
07:15Yeah, and I just, I keep coming back to, I don't know that keeping the window open
07:21is all that viable.
07:22All right.
07:22For plenty of reasons.
07:23Who replaces Dean Wade?
07:24Is it Jonathan Kaminga?
07:26No, I don't think, if you do these moves, I don't think you can afford Jonathan Kaminga.
07:29Okay, so you can't afford, so who on the current Cavs, because I'm thinking of it going Donovan,
07:35Jalen Brown, LeBron, good God, you get a starting five with those three there.
07:39That's going to sound really good to everybody.
07:41Donovan, Jalen Brown, LeBron James, Jared Allen.
07:45Who am I missing?
07:46Who steps into that starting five?
07:48Well, in this case, you still have Max Strews.
07:52Okay.
07:52You know, depending on how you want to play it, like if you, because remember, Mobley is gone.
07:57So, Mobley was somebody who made up for a lot of the defensive mistakes.
08:02That's gone now.
08:03So, look, there's no perfect scenario.
08:06I think that's what I'm trying to get people to understand.
08:09No, there isn't.
08:10And none of you seem to want to run it back.
08:12Nobody.
08:12So, you know, I think a lot of the teams in the NBA right now are thinking about how to
08:18tinker with their roster, even if it doesn't guarantee that they get better.
08:21That's what the T-Wolves did.
08:22The T-Wolves made those moves and went and got LaMelo Ball.
08:25Can I poke a lot of holes in that team building?
08:28Sure.
08:29But they were stuck.
08:30They weren't going to win.
08:32Are the Cavs stuck right now with Evan Mobley?
08:35I thought about this all night, and I think they are.
08:37And I think that I knew that if there were straight up Jalen Brown for Evan Mobley, and
08:43that was it.
08:44Like, I had very strong reservations about that.
08:47And I didn't really let you talk me into it.
08:49If it comes down to LeBron.
08:50So, I'm going to expect LeBron to do a lot of things.
08:52LeBron has made a lot of people in his career fit in to the system.
08:57I know that's an overused term, but he's made a lot of guys who, like J.R.
09:00Smith to the New York Knicks before he got here, was cantankerous and goofy.
09:06And a lot of Knicks fans didn't like him.
09:07They love him now, but a lot of Knicks fans didn't like him at that time.
09:10And a lot of Knicks fans at that time, and you can, maybe they'll deny it, but I know
09:14for a fact they were sitting good riddance to bad rubbish.
09:18And J.R.
09:19Smith is just about beloved here.
09:21And I love J.R.
09:22Smith, everybody does.
09:23So, I put Donovan, LeBron on that team.
09:26And then Jalen Brown, who, according to Termini and a couple others, boy, he is, he's angry.
09:33He can be, he can be moody, but he is motivated.
09:36And so, if LeBron's there, you know what this all is about.
09:40This is for a championship.
09:41It's not just for a championship for LeBron.
09:43It's a championship for Donovan, a championship for Jalen Brown.
09:45Like, this is to legitimize everything and to go through the East.
09:48I think I'd be willing to make this move, even though I got to figure out who the fifth
09:51guy on the floor is going to be.
09:53And I know I'm giving up offense, or I'm giving up defense.
09:55I think I'm, I think, yes, I'm willing to make this move.
09:58Here's what I like.
09:58Harden now slips down to like your fourth best player.
10:01Yeah.
10:02Last year, in the playoffs.
10:04Oh my God.
10:04I left James Harden out of this mix.
10:06He led the team in minutes.
10:08Oh my God.
10:08So that shows you how much they had to rely on someone who was 36 years old.
10:13And, you know, he, he, he was a roller coaster, right?
10:17You don't get to the Eastern Conference Finals without him.
10:19He also, in his high usage, he cost you games.
10:23So now, if he is.
10:24I'm willing to make the move.
10:25Now, if he's down to your fourth option, I think you're in a much, much better spot.
10:30Well, are you willing to make the move?
10:31I am.
10:32I'm willing to do it.
10:33I think you can hear it in my voice.
10:34Like, it's not, it's not an all-in no-brainer, but I think you do it.
10:38Donovan.
10:39I do think you do it.
10:39Jalen Brown, LeBron, Jared Allen, James Harden.
10:43Let's get the bonus of LeBron's last season in Cleveland.
10:46Well, I don't think people understand the price you can put on that.
10:49I wonder if it's two years in Cleveland.
10:51Or two.
10:51I don't know.
10:52Because his other son is at Arizona this year, right?
10:54Do you, do you do a retirement tour in 27, 28, and you bring in his other son?
10:59Do you have another second-round pick in the 2027 draft?
11:02I thought you'd ask, do you have another son who can come up and play?
11:04I don't know.
11:05You'd have to.
11:07I'll take, if it's a sweetener, fine.
11:11Bring in, it's Bryce, right?
11:12The young one.
11:13Bring in Bryce.
11:14Go right on ahead and do that next year if you want to.
11:16I'll have two years of LeBron then.
11:18Yeah, I think I'll make this move.
11:192-1-6-4-7-4-0-92.
11:20It's tough to move on from a guy like Evan Mobley.
11:22I wasn't willing to do it just one-for-one with Jalen Brown.
11:25It does scare me about some of the things.
11:27That's fancy.
11:28Is he ever going to be better than Jalen Brown?
11:29I don't think he is.
11:31So why am I chasing literally a unicorn in so many ways as we talk about it?
11:36I'm chasing a unicorn when I've got something here that can compete right now.
11:39This is going to give me the best chance possible.
11:41This is a better chance to win a championship than anything I've had.
11:44And what I've had has been good.
11:46That's a 64-win team two years ago, 52-win team this last year.
11:49That's a really good basketball team.
11:51This team beats that team.
11:52This team can beat the New York Knicks and get to the NBA Finals.
11:55I will make this move.
11:57Well, the Cavs need to make some moves here because even if it's not LeBron,
12:02a lot of people believe you got passed up over the evening
12:07where the Kawhi Leonard trade is just about – that's consummated, correct?
12:10Kawhi Leonard's headed to the Toronto Raptors.
12:13So right now, off the tippy-top of your head, Tone,
12:17where do you see the Cavs in the Eastern Conference?
12:19Yeah, as of –
12:20How – where do they rank?
12:23As of today, obviously, Knicks are number one.
12:28And then I'm telling you, it is a free-for-all after that.
12:31Look, Detroit hasn't made their move or moves yet.
12:34Indiana, stuff is kind of percolating behind the scenes there with the Pacers.
12:39But, you know, you can't forget about them at all.
12:43We know what a nightmare they were to go up against.
12:46And their team is, you know, kind of transforming.
12:48But Halliburton will be back healthy.
12:50They were snakebitten this last year with the injuries.
12:54Boston, something's got to be done, right?
12:56Like, it's hard to believe now that Jalen Brown is going to be able to coexist.
12:59I know Bill Simmons said all they have to do is sit down.
13:02You know what?
13:02I said that about Kyrie and LeBron.
13:04And people from within the Cavs front office were like, good luck with that.
13:08Like, once it's over, it's over.
13:10It just is.
13:11So, I think they're getting broken up.
13:13And then it will vastly depend.
13:16But they'll be a totally new-look Celtics team if that's the case.
13:19And Jalen Brown gets traded.
13:20So, I can't pencil them in the way I have.
13:22And even when they have had those guys, they have fallen short the last few years.
13:27Toronto.
13:28I am seeing people say this definitely means Toronto is ahead of the Cavs.
13:35But I've seen some others kind of put them on equal playing field.
13:38I will say for now they are ahead of the Cavs.
13:41But the Cavs haven't made their moves yet.
13:43If you're telling me we get LeBron and Jalen Brown and there's a whole new look to this,
13:49I think I might say the Cavs are ahead.
13:52But it's close.
13:53It's close.
13:54Kawhi just had an unbelievable year.
13:56He played like a top five player through most of his year.
14:00I just have a whole blind spot, as a wise man once told us, for Clipper basketball.
14:08Like, if I'm watching West Coast basketball, I'm watching Golden State.
14:11I'm watching – honestly, I'm watching Portland.
14:13I'm watching the Lakers.
14:16The Clippers do not compute.
14:17The Kings do not compute to me.
14:19The Suns do not.
14:19You just didn't watch – you didn't watch a lot of Kawhi last year.
14:22No.
14:23Honestly, I haven't since he – how long has he been with the Clippers?
14:25A few years?
14:26I haven't watched Kawhi in a very long time.
14:28So, you're telling me this is kind of new.
14:29It was the same thing with James Harden.
14:31I mean, I knew James Harden was good just by box score checking.
14:36I really didn't check on Kawhi a whole lot because I just assumed he wasn't really playing.
14:41And then we saw all the carbon offset stuff and all the other crazy stuff that was going on.
14:46I didn't really know.
14:48Their team was just not on my product ladder.
14:50So, when I first saw that people were saying that the Raptors were better than us,
14:55my first thought was to roll my eyes.
14:58And then I thought, well, let's just see this out because I can't judge –
15:02You went to seven games with them last year and that was without Kawhi.
15:04And I can't fully – and that's exactly why.
15:06I can't fully judge something I haven't seen.
15:08So, I didn't want to go shoot off my mouth until I really knew.
15:11And I knew what you were going to tell me because I did not know what I was seeing
15:14or not seeing at that time.
15:16So, I would put the Knicks are number one because they won the championship.
15:21That's what they deserve.
15:24What did you just say about Detroit?
15:25They haven't made their moves yet.
15:27Their move or moves.
15:29You know, the Durant thing is very interesting because he's talking to the Lakers.
15:34What would they want in return if there's a sign in trade?
15:38You know, there was some Kyrie buzz a few weeks ago.
15:42Raptors.
15:43Are Celtics still ahead of the Cavs?
15:45Did you just say that?
15:47I said that we don't know.
15:50If we get Jalen Brown and LeBron, well, that's an if.
15:53I'm talking about right now.
15:54So, right now, as of this morning at 8.07, I think you are the fourth best team in the
15:59East.
16:01Celtics, Knicks, or Knicks, Celtics, Raptors, us.
16:05And you didn't say anything about the Pacers.
16:07Oh, yeah.
16:08That's right.
16:08That's tough.
16:10They lost a couple other pieces, too.
16:11I'm still going to put us fourth.
16:13I'm still going to put us fourth.
16:15Detroit's got a good young basketball team, but we're talking about the right now.
16:18And right now, Jalen Duren is talking to the L.A. Lakers.
16:21So, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to put us fourth.
16:23And that is not going to make anybody happy.
16:25Now, I don't want to be desperate.
16:27It is a desperate move.
16:28There's no way around it.
16:30So, I got to do what I got to do.
16:31If I'm being told about LeBron coming back and the possibilities of him coming back and
16:36Wendy saying there's moves to be made, that James Harden is working with the Cavs and
16:41possibly, possibly LeBron to redo his contract, to make room for LeBron, to possibly make a trade.
16:49Like, Evan Mobley has been a third-rail untouchable person for a long time until this offseason.
16:56And if I got to speed up the clock, I got to speed up the clock.
17:00LeBron and Jalen Brown, that changes things.
17:03LeBron, Harden, Jalen Brown, Donovan Mitchell, Jared Allen.
17:08I mean, that is a great starting five.
17:10Now, by name, it's a great starting five.
17:12And I know the team is very, very, very old.
17:14I'm not concerned about 28-29.
17:16I'm concerned about 26-27 and maybe 27-28.
17:21I'd like two years from LeBron.
17:23This year is a season and then a retirement tour next year.
17:27Of course, I'm asking that out of a 43-year-old man.
17:30And every time he steps on the floor, not trying to wish this into existence or talk this anything,
17:35I know I'm scaring some folks, but the older you get,
17:39and he's not had a serious injury, every time he steps on the floor,
17:43there could be a possibility the older he gets.
17:45And once he has a big one, that's it.
17:48It's not that he's 26 anymore.
17:50We saw it with Kobe.
17:51Once he had the Achilles injury, that was basically it for the career.
17:54He's older than Kobe was.
17:56He's got a lot of miles on him.
17:58If something bad happens, something bad happens.
18:00But you know what?
18:01Wouldn't you rather swing for the fences and go ahead and do that now than any of the other stuff?
18:05I think you would.
18:06And, you know, the hard part is, like, if you're telling me,
18:10hey, this isn't a great fit,
18:11why are we abandoning the hopes and dreams of a unicorn Evan Mobley?
18:17You have to tell me what you think Mobley is truly capable of
18:20and the likelihood he gets there.
18:22I'm not really hearing that from a lot of people.
18:24People are just telling me,
18:25you can't move Evan Mobley.
18:27Whatever you do, they're in love with Evan Mobley.
18:29You can't abandon this this early.
18:31All right, tell me what you think he ends up being.
18:33Until you get a chance to get something better.
18:35I want to hear what people think.
18:36Will he ever become better than Jalen Brown?
18:39I do not think he will.
18:40No.
18:40I don't either.
18:42And because I don't either,
18:43and I know Jalen Brown's cantankerous,
18:46and Justin Termini warned us about that.
18:48If you're getting LeBron and Donovan Mitchell's obviously still going to be on the team,
18:51you have a personal friend of his.
18:53You have LeBron who has got people to fall in line before.
18:56In his own way, and we've been critical of him at times,
18:59LeBron has got people to fall in line before.
19:01I think it could be a successful bunch.
19:03I think it can.
19:04I think it could be more successful than what we already have.
19:06However, there is the legacy question, LeBron,
19:08and I know we will have Joe Vardin coming up here momentarily.
19:10This is very interesting.
19:11Dave McMenamin, ESPN.
19:13He had this to say about LeBron.
19:15He thinks he should come home.
19:17I mean, of all the places in the world where he could come to the conclusion
19:21that he was going to be leaving the Lakers
19:22and telling the Lakers he was going to be leaving,
19:24it just so happens to be Akron, Ohio, Cleveland, Ohio.
19:29And I'm not going to say that's all of the clues right there,
19:32but we have to read the tea leaves here.
19:34I know that several members of LeBron's kind of inner circle
19:37are going to meet him in Ohio this week.
19:40And I'm sure they continue to have a discussion about what the decision will be.
19:45But it could be the best situation right down the road
19:48from where he grew up, 45 minutes from Akron,
19:51with the Cavs for a third stint.
19:53And really, I've followed this guy now for 12 years around the country.
19:57I've seen different fan bases, different arenas.
20:00The only place that accepts him, embraces him, celebrates him
20:05for everything that he is, is Cleveland, Ohio.
20:08Before I play the Pluto, do you think Dave's actually wishing a little bit?
20:13Think about it for a second.
20:14He's a married man now.
20:15Yeah.
20:17He's lived in Cleveland.
20:19Now, I don't think he's going to take a pay cut to come back to Cleveland
20:22to cover LeBron.
20:23He knows damn well his salary is going to go a hell of a lot further
20:26in Cleveland, Ohio, than it will in San Francisco, California.
20:29That's just a good businessman right there in Dave McMenamin.
20:32So if Dave could go on TV and continue to promote that, I would enjoy that.
20:36Because he's lived in Cleveland.
20:37He enjoyed his time here in Cleveland.
20:39You guys, back in the single days, had some nights out here in Cleveland.
20:42If I don't mean to speak out of turn here.
20:44Yeah, he's losing a drinking friend.
20:46Well, wait a minute.
20:47Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
20:47I won't be available this time around.
20:50Don't say that.
20:51I mean, your kids are getting a little bit older.
20:53Am I going to get some more time?
20:54Are you telling me?
20:56That's all up to the missus.
20:58Freed from the shackles of these two toddlers?
21:01That's all up to her.
21:03Okay, maybe I shouldn't say all that.
21:04Maybe you aren't going to get more time.
21:06But you know what?
21:06I will say, Dave Arden Bloom's here.
21:08He can go drinking with John.
21:09I will say, Dave was quick to respond to any of my texts until yesterday.
21:14Uh-oh.
21:14So I don't know what that means.
21:16Terry Pluto brought up a different side of this, though.
21:18From the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Terry Pluto was on Baskin and Phelps.
21:23He actually disagrees with Dave McMenamin.
21:25If LeBron were to come back to Cleveland, let me throw this out.
21:28You guys should ponder this.
21:30All he can do is ruin his legacy unless he happens to win another title here, which is difficult.
21:36But right now, he is viewed as the preeminent, not only of the best player that they ever had here,
21:43but making the greatest accomplishment in NBA playoff history, winning, coming back from 3-1.
21:50As you mentioned, that team is always revered.
21:53He'll always be revered.
21:55You come back here at the age of 41.
21:56You're playing next to a 37-year-old James Harden and trying to kind of make this work.
22:01If I were him, I think I'd rather go to Golden State and try it with those guys.
22:05I have a mountain of respect for Terry Pluto.
22:07I don't think he can ruin his legacy, though.
22:11If he comes back, I don't think it ruins any of the memory of 2016.
22:14I can't see a scenario where he just shows his ass and kills any of the good nature that he
22:22has with the fans.
22:22Yeah.
22:23The goodwill that he has with the fans.
22:24How would he ruin his legacy?
22:26One final year.
22:27I think it's a bit strong.
22:28The fans actually get a chance to see him, and it's not going to be outrageous.
22:32We talked about if it was Golden State, one game in Cleveland, the most expensive ticket in years.
22:39When this was being brought up, not just when it first got brought up, but over time this year.
22:44Anytime LeBron get brought up, people would jump in and say, you don't want the drama back.
22:49I'm thinking, there's not much drama anymore.
22:51I used to be one of those guys a few years ago when he was a free agent.
22:55Like, ah, drama, drama, drama.
22:57Don't need it.
22:57We got this good young basketball team.
22:59Now we've been at it for the last couple of years.
23:01And I think we're hitting a pretty big concrete ceiling above us, and we're trying to break through up there.
23:07LeBron at 41, there's always going to be drama around the guy.
23:10He's making videos on Instagram about coming home, all that stuff.
23:13There is always going to be a little bit of drama, a little bit of intrigue.
23:16I don't think it's anywhere near the same as it was before.
23:18You come back home, my concern was he might not be ready to face retirement.
23:23That's part of the reason I say two years with LeBron.
23:25He might not be ready to do it, and it may be feeling like a move to just end the
23:29career.
23:29But I don't think that it's going to be nearly as dramatic as what it has been in the past
23:33because there is no tomorrow.
23:35If he comes home, this is it.
23:37This is it.
23:38There's no, oh, my God, what's he going to do in 2029?
23:41No, that's it.
23:42There's no holding on to him.
23:45This is where it ends.
23:46So I don't have to worry about all the other crazy, dramatic stuff that's happened in the past.
23:50And I don't think that that would have an effect.
23:532016 is a very special time for everybody, and it holds a very strong place.
23:58And anybody who cares about the Cavs, it holds a very strong place in anybody's heart.
24:01I cannot see that changing.
24:03I can't see him allowing that to change.
24:05I think that if he does come back, I think he thinks about that moment and what he does to
24:10preserve that moment
24:10while trying to win a championship with this current Cavs team.
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