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00:00I was thinking a lot about this, the idea that, and obviously you've got reports all over today,
00:03Draymond opts out of his player option, and so the setup is here.
00:08It's all there. Draymond's going to take less money.
00:10It's set up. Anthony Davis, LeBron James, can they pull it off?
00:14Obviously we'll find out.
00:15New report today was from a couple different accounts,
00:18but Chris Haynes had the idea that LeBron and the Lakers have yet to have a conversation regarding his future.
00:23That's expected to change, though, in light of Golden State's strategic maneuvering
00:27to position themselves as a landing spot, according to his sources.
00:30So there's a lot that's happening.
00:31If it's not going to be the Warriors, it feels like the Lakers are at least there.
00:36They're in the conversation, more so than the Cavs, at least.
00:39And I'm at a spot now, Spencer, where I, at June 29th, 2.09 p.m. in the afternoon,
00:45I'm getting ready to call it as far as LeBron James coming to the Cavs.
00:48Yeah, I mean, I felt this way for a while, that he probably wasn't coming back.
00:51I understand the good vibes and the good story of he finishes his career.
00:55And I've been, from the time he left in 2018, the biggest advocate for,
01:00he'll be back at some point because the only place that makes sense to finish his career is Cleveland.
01:04Like, this is his town.
01:05L.A. is a Kobe Bryant's shack town.
01:08All these other Laker greats.
01:09Miami is, I almost said Dean Wade.
01:12D. Wade's town.
01:13And, like, the place that makes the most sense is Cleveland.
01:16The Heat statue actually looks more like Dean Wade than Wayne Wade.
01:18Yeah, it does, actually.
01:19That's fair.
01:20But I think despite all that, like, LeBron always beats to his own drum.
01:25I've always felt, like, coming back to Cleveland would be a cool story,
01:28but I just didn't know if it was going to make sense for him from a basketball standpoint.
01:31For me, it was more about the money, which now it sounds like most of these other teams
01:35would only really be offering him the mid-level exception anyway,
01:37so maybe it's less about that.
01:39But LeBron's going to do what LeBron's going to do.
01:41I just, like, this is sort of a weird place for him to end up if he ends up with
01:46the Warriors.
01:46But I agree with you that the way these LeBron narratives always go,
01:51whenever he's been a free agent, there's always, like, different vibes about different teams.
01:54And it's like one week it was the Cavs, one week it was definitively he was going back to the
01:59Lakers,
01:59now it's that he's going to the Warriors.
02:01Part of me is like, we have no idea what he's doing.
02:03I think this kind of proves that.
02:04Like, LeBron's stuff rarely leaks out.
02:06So all we've heard today is that the Warriors are trying to pursue him,
02:09but we don't know for sure that that's where he's 100% going to go.
02:12But it's, I don't know, I'm with you.
02:14It just feels like there's too much smoke about other teams at this point.
02:18I think we had our fun last week in the aftermath of the 2016 reunion they did,
02:22and we got to kind of bask in that and feel like, well, maybe there's a chance.
02:24But it feels like that ship has largely sailed,
02:27and the Cavs maybe aren't even aggressively pursuing LeBron at this point
02:31because they have other things they've got to worry about first.
02:33I mean, nothing would be better than him basically lining up to go to the Warriors
02:37to then come back to the Cavs.
02:38Like, in one last attempt to almost thwart Golden State
02:43and put them in a problematic situation, if he set them up this way,
02:47it just, to me, it seems pretty obvious.
02:49You know, when you're talking about LeBron and the relationships there,
02:53if they bring Anthony Davis in play, well, Anthony Davis, him, Kerr, and Curry,
02:57they won gold together in 2024.
02:59Like, they know that works already.
03:00He's already been, if he's not best friends with Draymond,
03:03he's very good friends with Draymond Green, more so than even Steph Curry.
03:07Like, there's a relationship that is built there
03:09that is obviously something he'd want to go to.
03:11But most importantly to that conversation, Spencer,
03:14is I don't think he's caring about it being Golden State.
03:17He knows these guys.
03:18He knows these guys in a way he doesn't know the Cavs players.
03:21We have a relationship with LeBron.
03:23You, me, this city.
03:24We have a relationship with LeBron because of 2016
03:27and obviously his childhood and everything with him being picked number one,
03:30the whole everything.
03:31We don't need to go through the laundry list of why we know LeBron.
03:34LeBron doesn't know Evan Mobley.
03:36LeBron, I would argue, has had maybe,
03:39and I don't know his personal relationships with Jared Allen,
03:42but we want to bet he's had like four conversations in life
03:44with Jared Allen outside of the basketball court,
03:46and if that number was even true, I'd be surprised.
03:49Do you know what I mean?
03:50Like, I'm sorry.
03:51Is it fair to say the person he might have the closest relationship on this team
03:54is maybe going to be James Harden?
03:55Like, I would imagine him and James Harden have interacted enough
03:58that they're somewhat close.
03:59And I think that was part of the reason,
04:01not obviously the whole reason for why the trade happened,
04:03but that was like an added bonus for the James Harden trade
04:05is that it would give LeBron somebody that he could be like,
04:08all right, yeah, I know you, I like you, I get along with you.
04:12It's great.
04:12Because I think if you're going to spend your last year in the NBA,
04:15I do think you wanted to be around people that you know,
04:18people that you've played with, people that you trust,
04:19people that you like more than anything.
04:21This Cavs team, outside of Harden that you mentioned,
04:23I know he's had dealings with Donovan,
04:25but I've got no indication that they're buddy-buddy.
04:27Like, the amount of wine they've drained together,
04:30I would bet is not even one full bottle full.
04:32Like, it's just, he'd be almost like a foreign piece into that locker room.
04:36Well, and that's why I say, like, LeBron beats to his own drum, right?
04:39Like, he's going to do the thing that he's the most comfortable with,
04:41which is going and maybe reuniting with, or not even reuniting,
04:44but joining a team of guys that he gets along with
04:46to sort of send his career off into retirement.
04:48It's weird because I think all of us here in Cleveland will,
04:51and I know we're going to talk about this,
04:52would feel weird about seeing him wear that uniform
04:55and team up with guys that we rooted against
04:57when they were at the peak of their powers.
04:58But I also feel like that's just kind of LeBron's MO.
05:01I think it also speaks to,
05:02everyone has always wondered what still motivates LeBron at this point.
05:06And I've said for years that the whole ring thing,
05:10like championships,
05:11I think he felt comfortable with his legacy from that standpoint.
05:14After he won one with the Cavs here in 2016,
05:17I think he felt like he was Teflon at that point.
05:19So, like, the Lakers one was just like the cherry on top.
05:21It was a cherry on top,
05:22and I'm sure he wanted at least one more in his career.
05:24I think everyone in his life tells him he's the greatest of all time.
05:27So who cares if Johnny Basketball 6'9", 6'9",
05:30disagrees and thinks it's Jordan?
05:31He doesn't care.
05:32He could have left the Lakers two, what, three times over now
05:35if he really still cared that much about winning championships?
05:38Which, by the way,
05:39I don't think joining the Warriors team that we're talking about here
05:41with all these guys whose average age combines to be like 37 years old
05:46and they're almost qualified for an AARP card.
05:48I don't think that that team's winning the championship.
05:51No, but they'll be competitive at least.
05:52They won't be a good regular season team,
05:54but they'll be competitive in the playoffs.
05:55But it just throws out the window,
05:57the idea that LeBron at this stage is chasing championships,
05:59which is one of the lures to coming back to Cleveland, too,
06:02is, hey, this team is pretty much ready-made for you,
06:04and they're only a few pieces away from actually getting to that point
06:07in an Eastern Conference that feels wide open
06:09and could be even more wide open
06:10if Jalen Brown gets traded to a Western Conference team or whatever.
06:13So it just doesn't feel like that's his motivation.
06:15His motivation is play with guys who he gets along with,
06:17who he wants to sort of have this buddy-buddy season with
06:19and have a good time.
06:20I think he wants to play somewhere in California.
06:22I think he likes that.
06:23I don't think he wants to leave L.A. too far if he does leave L.A.
06:25Yeah, and so it's just a quick little plane ride,
06:27and that's all that is from San Francisco to L.A.
06:30And then on top of it, I really do think that the players
06:33and playing with Steph and Draymond and then Anthony Davis,
06:36if he can do that, I think that's way more enticing to him.
06:39And it's not, again, we've already established,
06:40it's not about winning an NBA Finals or anything.
06:42It's about LeBron having a good time in his last year
06:44while also being competitive.
06:46And also, you're feeling like he's checking something off.
06:48I mean, you know, as much of a blockbuster TV
06:52as that would be for us to watch him in a Cavs uniform,
06:55it's not as if it's not blockbuster watching him play with Steph Curry
06:58and with everyone else there and being coached by Steve Kerr.
07:01Like, there's something about the idea that he knows those guys,
07:04he trusts those guys, he's got proof of the concept already
07:08because of the gold medal they won in 2024.
07:10I just feel like that makes a lot of sense.
07:122-1-6-4-7-4-0-0-92, want to hear from you guys.
07:14Have you lost faith in a LeBron return?
07:16I've lost faith.
07:17I just don't think it's happening right now.
07:19And maybe shame on me, and a couple weeks from now,
07:21he'll be coming back home and I'll have to eat those words.
07:24I just don't see it.
07:25And the other update on this, Spencer, is that Shams is now saying
07:28that LeBron will not leave the Lakers for the Warriors
07:31unless Golden State trades for Anthony Davis.
07:33So it's Anthony Davis and LeBron as a package deal.
07:36And it's weird that, like, it's Anthony Davis or it doesn't happen
07:40considering, you know, I mean, listen, Anthony Davis and LeBron.
07:45Find someone who loves you the way LeBron loves Anthony Davis.
07:47You know what I'm saying?
07:47And it's not as if Anthony Davis is, like,
07:49some sort of great henchman for LeBron either.
07:53Like, he's not been the world's greatest in that regard.
07:56They won his most questionable ring together.
07:58Yeah.
07:59And also then there was that weird little subplot to it all
08:02where Anthony Davis talked about how he went months
08:04without picking on up a basketball
08:05and basically doing everything that would suggest something
08:08that LeBron would not like and appreciate.
08:09But I guess LeBron and Anthony Davis, that's a package deal.
08:13Well, and that's what's so weird about this.
08:14Like, regardless of, you know, first thing we highlighted,
08:16like, why maybe a Cavs reunion isn't in the cards
08:19and LeBron sort of does his own thing.
08:21And I can understand LeBron might enjoy the idea
08:24of playing with all these guys.
08:25But the concept of this team,
08:26you ever seen the movie Grown Ups, JP?
08:29The one that they made, like, six franchises off of?
08:31Yeah, maybe.
08:32But it's, like, got Adam Sandler and, like, all his buddies.
08:35Yeah, yeah.
08:35And they made, like, three different versions of that movie.
08:37In the first version of that movie.
08:39Like, Chris Rock on a slide or something like that?
08:41I think you're right.
08:41They did make multiple.
08:42Uh-huh.
08:42But in the first...
08:43Yeah, regrettably, I've seen the first one of that.
08:44I didn't see any...
08:45I didn't see the follow-ups.
08:46The first version of that movie,
08:48they played this, like, pickup basketball game
08:50with, like, all these old guys that they didn't...
08:52They didn't get along with.
08:54It was, like, the rival group of guys in the town that they were up in.
08:56Of course, Adam Sandler's got a rival group of basketball guys
08:59to go up against, of course.
09:00And in the basketball game, it's, like,
09:02all the other guys, like, eventually, like, get...
09:04Like, they bow out because they're injured or whatever,
09:07and it's...
09:07But, hey, they're all good friends.
09:08They're all hooping together.
09:09It's a good time.
09:10I had by all.
09:11That's what this reminds me of.
09:12It just makes you think of LeBron going to team it up
09:14with a bunch of old-timers,
09:16all his buddies from his years together in the NBA
09:18that he met along the way,
09:20and they're going to go try to play basketball together,
09:22but it's not going to end in a championship.
09:24Do we really think a team with those guys...
09:26Like, I can't wait for the graphic when they...
09:28If this happens, I can't wait for the graphic
09:30that has AD, LeBron, Steph, and Draymond on it,
09:33and it says, who's beating this?
09:35And all the responses are just arthritis,
09:38carpal tunnel, AD's knees.
09:40Like, AD's the youngest of that group,
09:41and we know his knees are jello.
09:43Like, what are we talking about here?
09:44Like, they're at a Western Conference
09:47that has a young Thunder team,
09:48a young Spurs team that just went to the NBA Finals.
09:50Like, they're not going to outlast those teams
09:52in the seven-game series.
09:53Here's where I'll give them credit, though.
09:54I'll give them credit with the idea that
09:55they are at least continuing to swerve into what they are.
09:59Last year, they were the oldest team,
10:00the Warriors, that is,
10:01the oldest team in all of the NBA.
10:03And so what are they doing this year?
10:04So let's get older.
10:05Yeah, they're getting older.
10:06Clearly, their plan or their thought process on this
10:08is because of the 2024 gold medal
10:11and everything that was associated with that,
10:13they think they have a concept that is proofed out,
10:15and they also feel like we can't,
10:18listen, we can't beat Wemby with talent.
10:20That's not going to happen.
10:21But we can beat him with experience.
10:22We can beat him with brains.
10:23There's not a smarter basketball person on the planet
10:25than LeBron James.
10:27Arguably, there's, if you want to rank people
10:29with basketball intelligence,
10:30Steph's got to be up on that list.
10:32Draymond's got to be up on that list.
10:33I don't know about Anthony Davis' basketball intelligence,
10:36but what I do know is that he averages 20 and 10
10:39and is still a top 10 defensive player in the league.
10:41So, like, I don't know.
10:42Like, it doesn't sound crazy.
10:43I think they'd be an awful regular season team, okay?
10:47I don't think they'll be good in the regular season.
10:48I think a lot of people, they'll be taking games off.
10:51There'll be minutes restrictions and all that.
10:53But you get them ready for the postseason,
10:54I don't know.
10:55I don't hate the vision.
10:56What I hate is the idea of LeBron in a Warriors uniform, though.
11:00For sure.
11:00That's what I hate.
11:00That's what I hear from you guys.
11:012-1-6-4-7-4-0-92.
11:03Would you feel slighted if LeBron went to the Warriors?
11:06Yeah, a little bit.
11:07It does kind of feel like something to get angry about
11:09and something to be mad about.
11:10It feels like a weird ending to the LeBron existence
11:13for 20 years of basketball greatness.
11:16Well, and this is why I say I don't think LeBron at this point,
11:19I don't want to say he doesn't care about his legacy,
11:21but I don't think he thinks his legacy can be impacted by, like, anything.
11:25I guess is the way that I would put it.
11:26Well, can it?
11:26Because I don't know that it can.
11:27Because he...
11:28I think we'd be upset that he doesn't come here,
11:30but I think we'd also look at LeBron and say,
11:32okay, I get it.
11:33Well, I get it from the standpoint of, like,
11:35this is how he wants to end his career.
11:37Like I said, I understand his thinking on, like,
11:39hey, let's just buddy up with all my old friends
11:41and, you know, have this nice little pal sesh
11:44for my last year in the NBA.
11:45If that's what he wants to do, I get it.
11:47But I also can't hide from the fact of how lame that this would be.
11:50Not...
11:50And that, like, lame from the standpoint of what I laid out,
11:53like how old this team is
11:54and how the concept of it just sounds terrible to me,
11:56but then also how lame it would be for us as Cavs fans
11:59to know that his last year in the NBA, hypothetically,
12:02is him going to the team that we hated,
12:07loathed for at least those four years
12:10and obviously beyond that,
12:11because even though the Cavs kind of disbanded after that,
12:14we still hated and rooted against that Warriors team
12:16for several, several years after the fact.
12:18And I think people still do root against the Warriors
12:19because they hate Steph Curry.
12:20If we're in the trend of early 2000s movies
12:23that people didn't really care for,
12:26I liked Fever Pitch.
12:27I thought it was fun, but not everybody did, okay?
12:29I knew you'd like that one.
12:32It's that scene where they see all the Red Sox players
12:35at the bar afterwards,
12:36and Jimmy Fallon's like, what the hell?
12:38Why am I upset?
12:39Why do I care so much?
12:40And these guys don't even...
12:41They don't even seem like they're bothered right now.
12:43That's what you're describing to LeBron right now.
12:45It's like, hey, LeBron,
12:46I want you to hate the Warriors forever.
12:48You're supposed to...
12:49And then you still care.
12:49You taught us to hate the Warriors
12:51more than we hate anything in life,
12:53and now you're going to go ahead
12:55and wear a Warriors jersey?
12:56You see how fans...
12:58You see how we can get so much more bothered by that
13:00than LeBron?
13:01LeBron won't think twice after.
13:02He doesn't care about the jersey
13:03or what the team signifies or anything like that.
13:06He just cares about playing with Steph
13:08and with Draymond and AD and Steve Kerr.
13:11That's his deal.
13:12I think I saw a poll...
13:13And I'm not bothered by that for him.
13:14I do think it sucks, though.
13:16I think I saw a poll that was like,
13:18how would you feel if LeBron joined the Warriors?
13:21Would you be...
13:23Would it ruin his legacy
13:26was the first option?
13:27It was like,
13:27would you just be mad?
13:29Would you just be indifferent about it?
13:31And then the last one was like,
13:33doesn't bother you at all,
13:35doesn't impact anything, whatever.
13:37And I would probably fall into the mad category on that.
13:40I would be kind of mad
13:41if he joins the Warriors
13:42because it just doesn't feel right
13:45to see him in that uniform
13:46with how tight those series were,
13:49how much emotion and passion
13:52we put on the line
13:53for ourselves as fans
13:54of like,
13:54we care so much about this team,
13:57about beating the Warriors.
13:58And it's also the fact that like,
14:00if it was just Steph still there,
14:02because I've always felt
14:03like I hated Steph in the moment,
14:05but since that time,
14:06I've come around to like really respect.
14:08I like Steph too now.
14:10I can admit that.
14:11And Steph got cheered
14:12at the 75th All-Star game in Cleveland
14:14when they were in the top 75 players.
14:16Like, there was a respect here
14:17in Cleveland for Steph,
14:18but people still hate Draymond.
14:19People obviously hated Klay.
14:21He's not there anymore.
14:22But it's the fact that like,
14:22Draymond is still there.
14:23I already think people hate the fact
14:25that LeBron's so close with Draymond
14:26because it almost ruins that whole,
14:28the whole back and forth
14:30they had in that series
14:31that got him suspended
14:32in the first place.
14:32And then it's like,
14:33oh, now you're friends with that guy?
14:34I bet more people dislike Aisha Curry
14:36than Steph Curry.
14:37Probably.
14:37I think that's probably true.
14:38Because she's been going on Twitter
14:39just yelling about everything,
14:41talking about the series is rigged
14:42as things was happening.
14:44Game six,
14:45she's out here tweeting
14:46about the series being rigged.
14:47She's got her tinfoil hat on, yeah.
14:48Yeah.
14:48I definitely think
14:50it would be a weird taste
14:51and a weird feeling
14:52to see LeBron wear that uniform.
14:54It's like the one uniform
14:55that you can't see him wear.
14:57And it also like for his legacy,
14:59again,
14:59I'm not going to say
15:00it would tarnish his legacy
15:01from the standpoint of,
15:02I think for the most part,
15:04I think his legacy is solidified.
15:05Could he use another ring?
15:07Sure.
15:07But I do think this would just cement
15:08what I've been saying for years,
15:10which is he doesn't care about rings
15:11at this point.
15:11Because if he goes there,
15:12I don't think that's the case.
15:13I think he just cares about
15:14ending his career with his buddies.
15:15But for us,
15:17I think it feels different.
15:19It's a weird way
15:19to end his legacy.
15:20If you want to go back to Miami even,
15:22I guess I kind of get that
15:23a little bit more.
15:24I get him ending it in LA
15:26because that's just kind of
15:27where he's been
15:27the last several,
15:28however many years.
15:29Coming to Cleveland
15:29makes the most sense.
15:30Going to a new team
15:31in Golden State
15:32and just kind of like
15:33having this reunion-like powwow
15:35with your friends
15:36seems like the lamest possible way.
15:38And this might just be
15:39one big leverage play
15:40to get him and the Lakers,
15:41basically the Lakers,
15:42to pay attention.
15:43Lakers have been asleep
15:44at the wheel all summer
15:45in regards to LeBron.
15:46And so maybe this just gets them
15:47to wake up a little bit.
15:48But I think the hard part
15:50for a lot of Cavs fans
15:51that are listening to this right now,
15:52at least for myself,
15:53I'm sitting here
15:54and I'm thinking to myself,
15:55we have a good enough team.
15:57If the Cavs had a bad team,
15:59we wouldn't even consider it.
16:01We wouldn't even think about it.
16:02When LeBron left,
16:04I don't think anybody
16:04envisioned a scenario
16:05where seven years later,
16:06we'd have a team
16:07that just was in the conference finals
16:09and then LeBron
16:09is still saying no to us.
16:11Because that means
16:11he was always going to say no to us.
16:13And I think there's something
16:13that hurts us deep down about that.
16:15There's a reality there
16:16that I think is almost
16:17like a twisting of the knife
16:18type moment for us.
16:19And that's the part
16:21that I'm having a hard time with.
16:22And it's just another example
16:23of him using the Cavs.
16:25How many times
16:26when this happens,
16:27a couple years ago
16:27he was a free agent to be,
16:29he shows up at that playoff game
16:31against the Celtics
16:32and sits courtside
16:33and everyone's fantasizing about,
16:35oh, does this mean LeBron's
16:36maybe considering coming back
16:37to Cleveland this offseason?
16:38Like he always uses the Cavs.
16:39He just uses the Cavs
16:40all the time
16:42to like get the leverage
16:43and entice teams
16:44to actually be interested in him.
16:45And it would just be
16:46another example of that.
16:47Which is why,
16:48to be honest with you, JP,
16:49I do understand
16:50why there are some fans here
16:51who just don't like LeBron
16:53because they feel like
16:54all he's ever done is left
16:56and just use the Cavs
16:57for leverage.
16:58And he's never actually
16:59been committed to them
16:59other than the fact
17:00that he needed to win
17:01a championship here
17:02because he promised one
17:02at the beginning of his career.
17:03No, I hate this.
17:04This can't be what
17:05ends up happening to LeBron.
17:06Such a lame as ending.
17:07LeBron knows this is,
17:08I think he thinks
17:09this is like Tom Brady
17:11in Tampa
17:11when he got Gronk there
17:12and all of a sudden
17:14basically put the band
17:15back together in many ways.
17:16I think he thinks
17:17that's what this is.
17:18This is like Joe Montana
17:19finishing his career
17:20with the Kansas City Chiefs.
17:21It just makes no sense.
17:22But it can't be though
17:23because the Chiefs
17:23at that time
17:24were not iconic
17:25in any sort of way.
17:26And the Warriors,
17:27I mean,
17:27they built themselves
17:28into being this
17:29now iconic franchise
17:30because of this
17:30Steph Curry era.
17:31And I don't know
17:3220 years from now.
17:33That's another part of this though.
17:34They did that
17:34at the mercy of LeBron,
17:36which is another reason
17:37why it's so stupid
17:38he goes there.
17:39Oh, there's a part of LeBron
17:40that has to understand.
17:41If Steph Curry
17:42was never born
17:43in the same hospital as LeBron,
17:44it's been established
17:45all day long.
17:45If he was never born
17:46in the same hospital,
17:47he's never born at all,
17:49LeBron James is not,
17:50it's not a question
17:51of if he's better
17:52than Michael Jordan.
17:53It is understood
17:54that he is better
17:55than Michael Jordan.
17:56If the Warriors dynasty
17:57does not exist,
17:58no one has an argument
17:59about who the GOAT is
18:00in the slightest bit.
18:01Michael Jordan himself
18:02would have to bow down
18:03to LeBron James
18:04in acknowledgement
18:05of who exactly
18:06that belongs to.
18:07But because he did exist
18:08and he is so great
18:10and he did win
18:10so many titles,
18:11he is what stands
18:12in the way
18:13of the long-standing debate
18:14of who the greatest
18:14of all time is.
18:15That should infuriate LeBron.
18:17It doesn't though.
18:18Do you think at all?
18:19He's secure about
18:20what he's accomplished.
18:21That was going to be
18:22my next question.
18:22Do you think it crosses
18:23his mind at all
18:24that doing this
18:24has any impact
18:26on his legacy?
18:26No.
18:26Because I don't.
18:27He doesn't care.
18:29He does not care.
18:31Do you personally think
18:32He's the Chappelle sketch.
18:33I do not care.
18:34Do you personally think
18:35it tarnishes his legacy
18:37in any way?
18:38I think for people
18:39like Atlanta, it will.
18:41I think for...
18:42Okay, how about this?
18:43I think there's enough people...
18:44Outside of Cleveland, though,
18:45do you think anybody
18:46thinks it tarnishes his legacy?
18:47Nobody cares.
18:48It's just a Cleveland thing.
18:49They'll make jokes online.
18:50They'll reference it.
18:51They'll do the same thing
18:52you're doing with the
18:52Life Alert stuff.
18:53And they're just going
18:54to talk about like,
18:55oh, alright, I guess he...
18:56Wow, at 42 years old,
18:58I guess he decided
18:59to team up with a bunch
18:59of buddies that he already
19:00had success with
19:01in previous places.
19:02And in the case of
19:03Steph and Draymond,
19:04we'll call it the Olympics,
19:04but he had success with.
19:05What I will say,
19:06I know that LeBron
19:07does think about
19:08his legacy in Cleveland.
19:09Even though I know
19:11he feels like he's Teflon.
19:12He's accomplished
19:13everything that he can accomplish
19:14and he thinks
19:14he's the GOAT already.
19:15I do know...
19:16He does think about
19:18how he's looked at
19:18in Cleveland,
19:19and I do think that
19:20that will cross his mind
19:21with this a little bit.
19:22But I ultimately
19:23don't think he would care.
19:24If this is what he wants to do,
19:25this is what he's going to do.
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