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00:00I get so far removed from the music that I can't wait to come into the man cave
00:04coups of dust arsenal of democracy surrounded by these magnificent animal heads and antlers
00:09and horns and spirit and ammo and guns and bows and arrows and guitars and amps.
00:13So when I pick up the guitar, it's like the first time every time because I'm so removed
00:18from the music that I can't wait to find these sounds and these patterns.
00:24Rock, metal, frog, and everything in between. Welcome to this episode of Talkin' Rock with Meltdown.
00:31Don't forget to follow the audio-only Talkin' Rock podcast on all podcast platforms.
00:36And now, it's time for today's conversation. Here's Meltdown.
00:40By the way, Meltdown, you have!
00:45I am your real all-American soul music shitkicker blood brother from the Motown den of the
00:53Funk Brothers, and I bring you greetings and unlimited fire-breathing soul music in 2026
00:59because you need my songs. You need my guitar tone. You need my band. You need my piss and vinegar.
01:05You need my energy. You need my spirit. And more than anything in 2026, happy 250th anniversary,
01:11real America. I'm talking about real America, not the slithering snakes that don't like it here
01:16that should slither out of here. But anyhow, I bring you a bumper crop of middle fingers in 2026.
01:22So I'm feeling so good I might squirt through the airwaves and stain the souls of all the Ozzy Boneyard
01:30real music lovers. And you're talking about Fred Bear. That is the definition of real music lovers.
01:36Not only because it's just a great performance. Oh, my alarm's going off. That means I have to call you.
01:41But anyhow, not only is it a great performance by Gunnar Ross, God rest his soul, Michael Lutz,
01:47but what Fred Bear meant to me, like my mom, my dad, my brothers, my uncle, everybody's family,
01:53that song just doesn't represent the man Fred Bear. It represents all of our Fred Bears and the
01:59families who play the Fred Bear song. When their loved ones come home in a flag-draped coffin,
02:06the hundreds of stories I've received, how that represents. Because my guitar playing comes from
02:13the soul and the scrotum. The most two important epicenters of quality of life in the history of
02:19the world. Especially not just general souls and general scrotums, but my soul and my soul. I thought
02:24I might mention that. But yes, I hear these stories and people stop Shemaine and I on the street
02:29all over the country. Of course, I don't go over the country, just Texas and Michigan. But I am doing
02:34Ohio and Indiana and Wisconsin and Minnesota. I'm playing Missouri. I'm going to unload. Oh,
02:38I thought you weren't going to tour. I'm not touring. No bus for me. No TSA, no hotel rooms.
02:43I fly to the gay rock. My flame throwing T-Rex scrotum off. And then I come home to my
02:47dogs
02:47because they need me. My point being about Fred Bear. Yes, I've heard these stories. And if I had
02:54any more confidence in my musical and spirit and patriotic connection with people, my cup runneth over.
03:03So if I may, thank you, Meltdown. And thank you, everybody out there that expresses the love for
03:08my music. Obviously, Wango Tango, the greatest love song ever. People fall in love. Most of the
03:12most of the baby boom. That was me. Anyhow, the point is, is that I know these stories and I
03:19cherish
03:19them. And you notice I haven't stumbled on a syllable yet expressing myself because ambiguity
03:26is kryptonite to the Nugent swamp. The point is, thank you, everybody. I love you more than you
03:33love me. And quite honestly, I know you love my music, but I love my music even more.
03:40And there he is, Ted Nugent, joining us here on WRF. I appreciate it. Of course,
03:45you're going to be in Sterling Heights. You're going to be in Lexington. And you know what? I would
03:48rather ride my motorcycle like I did last year to Pawpaw, Michigan, than go to the east side. But
03:54Sterling Heights is going to be awesome. But I might join you in Pawpaw, Michigan on July 11th.
03:57Once again, you were there. You know, I've done so many gigs. I'm so lucky. How lucky can I be?
04:03I
04:03get on my wounded knees every day. And I say, thank you, Lord, for giving this Motown American
04:09and Rhythm and Blue his rock and roll dream. But come on, you've been to a million concerts.
04:16I've done over 7000. I think we did a bunch of gigs in Texas. Ted Nugent,
04:20shit, kicker, speakeasies. We did. I was on 7051 or 7052. Pawpaw, Michigan, last year in 2025,
04:29it was out of body. The guitar tone, the spirit of the audience, the diversity in the audience,
04:35young and old and every imaginable walk of life, the singing. How about this? Talking about a great
04:43blend of music celebration. They sang every word to Fred Bear and Stranglehold and Wang Dang Sweet
04:50Poon saying, so, you know, I've made a connection that nobody else even knows available. So yes,
04:54Pawpaw was magic. Sterling Heights is always magic. When I come back to Michigan, I've got to I've got
04:59to remind myself to breathe. I am so excited. I get so out of control. Have you noticed I get
05:06so out
05:06of control? But I use that out of control to play the most dynamic and authoritative, genuinely
05:15dedicated guitar music delivery every night. But you were there in Pawpaw. It was unbelievable.
05:24It was in a venue. It was in Pawpaw. It wasn't Cal Jam. It wasn't the Texas music fair. It
05:30was
05:31Pawpaw. And it was absolutely unbelievable, which proves that Johnny Big, Jason Hartless,
05:35my team, my crew, it doesn't matter when we when we rehearse in the barn. It's the most important
05:42performance of our lives. We want to get it as dynamic and as powerful and as grooving as possible.
05:48And we do that every night. So thank you, Jason Hartless from Sterling Heights and Johnny Big from
05:54Waco, Texas and all my band. Has God blessed me with the greatest musicians in the world forever or
06:01what? I keep in touch with Tom Noel, my first drummer in 1960 in Detroit, right off a Grand
06:08River. Tom Noel was my first drummer in the Lourdes and he and I keep in touch. So and Bill
06:14White, the first bass player in Michigan for the Amboy Dukes, Bill White and I keep in touch. I keep
06:19in touch with all these guys. And it's so motivating to hear the positive celebration of my music
06:25everywhere. I go. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Now, you brought up Kale Jam and brought some of
06:31these older shows and stuff. So I see a girl in the hair back is the loincloth next. What's going
06:36on with you? Is that what that my God, are you telling me I didn't get I haven't looked in
06:40a
06:40mirror in a long time? Oh, my goodness. Oh, you have a mirror right next to you. How does that
06:44happen?
06:45Because I do media all the time and I want to be as handsome as possible. And it's quite a
06:49chore.
06:49But yeah, I just didn't get a haircut this summer. I'm going to keep it until hunting season. So,
06:53yeah, the hair is growing, whatever. My middle finger is expanding, whatever. My guitar tone
06:58is just out of this world. In fact, God called me the other day and he said, Hey, Uncle Ted,
07:02I don't remember authorizing that guitar tone. Where did you where did you come up with that guitar
07:07tone? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You can continue to pursue life living the pursuit
07:11of Gonzo happiness guitar tone. But you might want to check in with me before you hit those sonic
07:16outrageous frequencies. I'm am I am I on fire? I'm on fire. And you're always on fire.
07:21Apologize fat chance. You're always on fire. Hey, speaking of guitar tones,
07:26who else has great guitar tones in your in your mind? Well, you know, I'm such a hopeless music
07:34fan. I mean, I yeah, I'm a musician and I put my heart and soul into creating a guitar topographical
07:41spiritual adventure on my Gibson Birdline next in my Les Paul's and my PRS's. So I pursue it as a
07:47as an
07:47adventure. And as I started in 1955, 1956, when the first prototype Gibson Birdland from Kalamazoo,
07:55Michigan was on the cover of Chuck Berry's record. And I didn't know it at the time because I didn't
08:00know anything at the time. What was I seven years old or eight years old? But the point is,
08:03is that guitar tone consumes us. So I always wanted to sound like Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley.
08:12And then eventually, I think today I was playing my Birdlands today. I got these amplifiers. I can't
08:20believe I put down my guitar to call you. But here I am. You're really special. So I'd like to
08:26think
08:26that my pursuit of guitar tone has no identity because I'm constantly pursuing it with playing
08:33around with amps and guitars and pickups. These mad scientists are creating these representations of the
08:39early 1950s and 60s Gibson PAF humbucker pickups. Peter Flynn out of Wisconsin. He's in a dungeon,
08:48you know, wrapping coils around magnets and coming up with these incredible pickups. So the guitar players
08:53in my life, Jared James Nichols, go see him. Wes Jeans from Texas, blues guy. Chris Duarte. Mark Farner,
09:03the guy in Detroit, Mark Cassa with a band called Slight Return. But right now, I would say,
09:08if you could describe, which you really can't, but I'll give it a good shot. My guitar tone is a
09:14combination of Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Billy Gibbons, and Jimi Hendrix
09:21meets Leslie West. It's fat. It's rich by playing with the guitar knobs, which you watch. You know,
09:28my guitar licks are cool as hell. The best in the world. My guitar licks are cool as hell. But
09:33watch my
09:34right hand. Good luck with that. Watch my right hand. But I'm working the knobs and I'm working
09:40the toggle switch to get different tones in the song Hibernation and Migration. In fact, when we do
09:46Good Friends in a Bottle of Wine, I'm working the guitar knobs more than anybody ever has because I do
09:54Migration, Hibernation, Free Flight, Homebound, Earth Tones, Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall,
10:00and Sunrise, these instrumentals. Oh, and Scottish tea from the Amboy Dukes. We weave in all these
10:05instrumentals and they all demand a different voice. And on my Gibson Birdland, through my custom amps and
10:11my twins, I can get an unlimited dimension of sonics and tonality and frequencies. And in one song,
10:20Good Friends in a Bottle of Wine, what happens in Stranglehold, too, to a great degree? I have
10:24over a dozen different voicings during the guitar, during the whole song, the opening riff, the big
10:30crescendos, the boleros, and then the solo network. I'm going from the front pickup to the back pickup,
10:36to the middle pickup, to the tones on, to the tones off, to tens. There are somebody's calling me to
10:42the
10:42tens on the volume, back down to the three and fours on the volume. So it's my, as an old,
10:48I'm an old
10:48man. I know you respect your elders. I'm 78 this year. I'm having more happiness. This is a miracle.
10:56I'm having more fun and more musical adventure with Johnny and Jason and my guitars and amps.
11:07This is, people don't believe me when I talk in these superlatives, but it's the only expression
11:12possible. It's 2026. If the, if the, if the 15 year old or the 30 year old or the 20
11:19year old Ted
11:20Nugent showed up, I'd kick his ass because I can't, I just got done filling feeders and checking traps
11:26and training my dogs. I have a whistle here. I train my dogs and my band. And so when I
11:30get done
11:31training my dogs and my, I, I'm, I'm so, we've talked about this. I get so far removed from the
11:38music that I can't wait to come into the man cave coups is just arsenal of democracy, surrounded by
11:43these magnificent animal heads and antlers and horns and spirit and ammo and guns and bows and arrows
11:49and guitars and amps. So when I pick up the guitar on this, what is it? The 30th day of
11:55June, 2026.
11:56It's as if it it's like the first time. I know that's hard to believe, but it's like the first
12:04time every time. Cause I I'm so removed from the music that I can't wait to find these sounds and
12:11these patterns. And it's basically, again, going back to Chuck Berry and what the, the guitar players
12:17of today, I'm leaving out some guitar players. Oh, Phil X, who just did the triumph tour. Now he's
12:21out with Bob Joey. These guitar players nowadays are the best guitar players that have ever lived.
12:27And I, I, they all inspire me. Really? I, I didn't think that, I didn't think that you would say
12:33that. That's, that's nice of you to say that's, that's humbling. But I've always said that people
12:37just don't listen. They go, well, he hates Joan Jack. I said, I love her. When I say I love
12:42her,
12:42they go, well, he's a hater. Except for the part where I said, I love her. People are retarded.
12:47I, by the way, all you retarded people stay on course. You're hysterical. And since Richard
12:53fire is dead, I need some hysterical laughter and the idiots in the world who lie about me,
12:59I am laughing so hard. You inspire me to celebrate maximum good because you're so bad and ugly. Thank
13:06you. Stay on course. Retards. I love you. Well, he hates people, except that I said, I love you. You
13:12numb nuts. Hey, what, what is it? What is it like being a roadie for Ted Nugent? Oh yeah. You'd
13:19have to,
13:19that'd be a great interview. Cause I got a bunch of them. And again, I, there's,
13:23nothing more, you know, again, everybody relax. I I'm bragging and get used to it.
13:29It's not bragging. It's fat. It's a fact. There's only one guy in the history of the world
13:33that played this kind of music through a Gibson Birdland. It's a jazz guitar, but I fixed it.
13:39It's a jazz guitar made by the master luthiers in Kalamazoo in the fifties and sixties.
13:45It's got a hand carved North American spruce arch top. It's a, it's a hollow body. It has an
13:51incredibly low threshold of outrageous, uncontrollable feedback, uncontrollable.
13:56Those who can't control works with me. So the uniqueness of, of the Gibson Birdland
14:04through a wall of fender amplifiers is the only example of that in the history of guitar
14:10plane. And it has its own purse. Each Birdland has its own personality because the spruce
14:18breathes and it has that rich fat tone that you hear on the beginning of cat scratch fever
14:23and stranglehold. And on my recent records, these songs, they have a certain vitality to
14:29the, to the extended tonations that are extremely top end frizzy and low end humming. And when
14:37you combine them the way I do by hitting it with the meat of my right hand to, to slightly
14:42mute and then completely mute. And then to barely mute, there's all kinds of levels of emotional,
14:48uh, intonations and frequencies that, that inspire. I turn it up and the guitar starts feeding back,
14:56but I can position my body so I can control which notes I do feed back. And it inspires me
15:01to play
15:02different. When I play the Les Paul and the PRS, I played the PRS exclusively with the damn Yankees.
15:06And you can hear that it's still my signature guitar style, but it has a slightly different
15:13approach to the song applications because I so revere Tommy Shaw and Jack Blades and Michael
15:17Cardelloni. So it just happened to be that when the damn Yankees got together to see if there was
15:22going to be a damn Yankees, I had a PRS handy. And when Tommy and I started writing songs, I
15:28played
15:28the PRS with respect for the ideas that Tommy and I were sharing and coming up together.
15:34And it was just a spontaneous and organic, but the Gibson Birdland, I saw Jim McCarty with Billy Lee
15:41and the Rivieras who turned into Mitch Ryder at the Wall Lake casino, 1962, playing a Gibson Birdland
15:47through fender ramps. And I went, Oh my God, listen to the spread of frequencies and, and percussiveness
15:56and richness to that. So from that day on 1962, I was going to get a Gibson Birdland. And I
16:01did from,
16:02uh, uh, uh, the Roselle school of music, Lyle, Lyle Gilman. His name is Lyle. I got my first one,
16:081965 for a thousand dollars. I didn't even have 50 cents, but, uh, I worked out a deal and I've
16:13been
16:13playing the Birdland since. And it, it, and any guitar player will tell you, um, Jared James Nichols
16:19grabbed one and jammed with me, uh, in, uh, Kentucky a couple of years ago. And all I saw was
16:25teeth and
16:25eyeballs because it made him play different. And he's an incredible virtuoso so that he could command
16:32the typically uncontrollable feedback of a Gibson Birdland was a testament to his incredible touch
16:39with the guitar. So I know that was a long answer, but I'm really good at long answers because it's
16:43really important to me. And I have a lot of things to say about the uniqueness of a Gibson Birdland
16:49and
16:49the way that she delivers my dream sounds. That's, that's what music is. Dream sounds and
16:56lyric, uh, uh, fortification. Well, let's switch gears here to the, uh, to the hall of fame. And
17:02of course not the rocket roll hall of fame, but I didn't, I didn't realize you weren't in the
17:06Michigan outdoor hall of fame. How does that happen? Well, there's a lot of hillbillies out
17:10there that were a little bit confused by the motor city mad, man. And I love the hillbillies on my
17:15friends. Um, so I think the most important thing is that they, they had meetings and Richard P Smith,
17:20probably one of the most revered conservation voices and outdoor writers up in the upper
17:26peninsula. Richard Smith, um, is the master of all things, conservation, wildlife management,
17:30wildlife reverence, and, and, and, and resource stewardship, all the important things that bring
17:35healthy wildlife and healthy environment. And he has nominated me over the year. And Jimmy Seitz,
17:40who has a TV show called spiritual outdoors, got, got, got a hold of some of them boys at the
17:46outdoor legends hall of fame. And they said, have you ever watched Ted Nugent talk about conservation?
17:54He's the best. And I am the best because I take it globally. I don't preach to the choir,
18:01even though the choir is paying attention. You saw my testimony at the embarrassing Michigan DNR
18:07goons. And I'm the only guy who takes these people on. So I'm being given conservationist of the year
18:15in Springfield, Missouri on August 8th and inducted into the legends of outdoors hall of fame.
18:21And on August 7th, outside of Claire, Michigan, um, I'm being inducted into the Michigan outdoor
18:27hall of fame. And I'm very honored. And I'm on, on, on behalf of Fred bear and my dad and
18:32real
18:33conservation families across this great land, I take it on behalf of their dedication to
18:39conservation and wildlife management. I'm very honored. Yeah. And Claire, Michigan, you got to
18:43stop at a cops and donuts while you're there, right? I will do that. I won't eat one, but I
18:48will stop
18:48there. Hey, you know, somebody was telling me the other day, they have family coming in from
18:53Wichita and they said, uh, they wanted to do some Michigan stuff. So if you had someone coming into
18:58Michigan for the first time or whatever, where would you take them? What's the, what's the place
19:02Ted Nugent would take somebody from out of the state? I would say go to Grayling to the Fred bear
19:07statue, um, realize what a powerful force he was in real environmentalism, uh, hunting, fishing,
19:13trapping, resource stewardship, real conservation, putting wildlife in the asset column, um, and
19:18revering God's miraculous nature that provides us quality of air, soil, and water only based upon
19:24wildlife habitat improvement, which is paid for by hunters, fishermen, and trappers. Duh. Um, so,
19:30uh, Fred bear is a powerful force. Our conversation started with the song, Fred bear, um, paying tribute
19:35to this great leader of conservation, but I would say, uh, up in the upper peninsula, go to the
19:40Taquamanan falls. Um, just, just look at the Mackinac bridge, maybe go to Mackinac Island. I've never
19:46been to Mackinac Island and I'm the czar of Michigan. I would say, go downtown Detroit and witness,
19:52um, the history of the greatest music in the world. Stopped by Hitzville USA on West Grand
19:58Boulevard. Uh, go to, uh, Jay's sporting goods and Claire and fondle hardware and buy some guns
20:05and ammo. Um, those are the kinds of things. Frankenmuth with the great restaurants and
20:09Frankenmuth go eat Polish food in Bay city. Am I hitting all the hotspots here? Are these the
20:14greatest spots go to pop on, go to the vineyard, um, and get some Michigan wine. Um, I had a
20:20sip.
20:20It was delicious. Uh, there's so many things. I, Michigan is my beloved birth state. I think
20:26I hit all the hotspots. Um, there's so many, you know, go anywhere in Michigan, stop by a
20:33burger spot or a bar. And I've never sat at a bar in my life. Well, one time up in
20:39Northern
20:40Michigan, I sat at a bar and had a burger, um, in between deer hunts, but meet the people.
20:45Uh, what wonderful, I went to pick Shemaine up at Metro airport yesterday and I stopped
20:51by the, the Coney Island place and a little restaurant called Beirut. I was in Beirut,
20:58Michigan. What the hell? And, and the huge black dude, when I walked in the huge, and I
21:05don't even look like Ted Nugent anymore. So the huge black dude, I mean, this, this is a
21:09tribute to the proudest successes of my life. This huge black dude went, Hey, you
21:16uncle Ted. Yes, sir. Full time ago. I love your mini hug me. He hugged me. He hugged me
21:22giant bear hug. Um, nicest people in the world, people at the curb at Metro coming up
21:29and saying, and thanking me. They mentioned Fred bear everywhere. We go. The nicest
21:35people in the world are Michigan people. They have an attitude, a positive spirit. They're
21:42funny. They're cocky. Um, and they're loving. So anytime you spend in Michigan, um, stop
21:49anywhere. And I bet you're going to run into great people, friendly people. Yeah. It's
21:54funny. My, my son was in a, at the airport yesterday. I was going to ask you, do people
21:57recognize you when you start walking through the airport? I mean, you're, you're not a, you're
22:04glad they do. Um, and it's a real Testament cause I don't, I don't really look like me,
22:09do I? Um, anyhow, but, but I think I, I think I exude a certain spirit. Have you noticed that
22:20I exude a certain spirit, but I'm telling you the love fest, the kindness, they all have
22:27great stories and almost all it's a, it probably 50, 50 between hunting outdoor stories and rock
22:36and roll music stories. So my dream, I didn't, I couldn't have told you what my dream was when I
22:42was a kid, but I knew what it was. And it was to spend as much time in the woods
22:47and in the swamps
22:48and the rivers of Michigan and to rock my balls off as awesome off often as possible. It's 78 years
22:56later. That's exactly what I'm doing. That's how I'm living by hunting Ted Nugent spirit of the wild
23:04TV show for 37 years, our sunrise safaris. We have a packed camp every weekend here in Jackson County
23:11at sunrise acres. People come out to, you know, the best pork in the world is angry pork. And they
23:15come
23:16out to kill some angry bacon with uncle Ted. Can you imagine more fun in the world than a campfire
23:21with a squealing pig and an arrow through his pump station with uncle Ted playing Fred bear on
23:26acoustic guitar? Can you, most people couldn't even handle that. You got, in fact, I'll tell you,
23:32keep in touch. You're going to come to sunrise acres and witness these great people. If you spent a
23:38campfire and I do it every week between now and probably Thanksgiving, the nicest, the most from
23:46welders and farmers to, to plumbing business owners, to entrepreneurs, every walk of life, shit kickers,
23:55working hard, playing hard, the nicest, most down to earth, funny, good people you'll ever meet. You'd think
24:03that the world was perfect if you spent a campfire with me and my son, Toby, and my son Rocco.
24:08Shemaine shows up,
24:09the dogs are there, Sadie, Jackson, and Coco. So this is where my inspiration comes from. It comes
24:15from the people who stopped me at a Coney Island and give me a hug and tell me they love
24:20my music
24:20or a person at the, at the curb says, Hey, we watched your spirit of the wild show. And my
24:25kid
24:25wanted to get a bow and arrow. So I got him a bow and arrow. Now he's addicted. All he
24:28wants to do is
24:28shoot his bow and arrow and kill deer. What a great, what a great relationship. Are you kidding me?
24:34It's awesome. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. I love you people.
24:37All right. Final thing here for you, Ted, looking back on, on your, on your vast career,
24:41who are some of the best bands and some of the best tours that you had?
24:46Boy, talking about the best, come on. I mean, I've had every greatest band in the world open up for
24:52me. I mean, I've toured with Kiss and Aerosmith and ZZ Top and Cheap Trick and Journey and Mark Farner.
25:00And, uh, I mean, I, ACDC opened up, uh, some of the names I can't remember. What's the band, uh,
25:09uh, Pyromania. What's that band? Oh, Def Leppard. Yeah. Def Leppard. I love Def Leppard. Sorry.
25:13I don't remember that. Um, Def Leppard. I love, I love pop music. Def Leppard. I've, I've had
25:17Bon Jovi open for me at Cobble Hall. I mean, I've had the best bands in the world, um, share
25:23a stage
25:24and I always pay attention. The Amboy Dukes played with the Who in 1969 at the Southfield
25:31Gymnasium High School. Um, we've played with the best bands in the world. I've, I've, I've had,
25:38uh, Lemmy and Motorhead open up for me over in Europe. Um, just the best bands. And I'm so lucky.
25:45I mean, I, I could name all, I'll tell you what you name all your favorite bands and I've shared
25:50the
25:50stage with them. I mean, you look at the rosters of these different jams where there's been a
25:54hundred thousand people, Sammy Hagar, my God, Van Halen. Um, I, I've played with everybody. I jammed
26:01with, uh, uh, John Entwistle and Brian May at the NAMM show, uh, get up on stage and jam with
26:07them. I
26:08mean, yikes, how, how lucky can I be? And, and I take that to heart because they're all incredibly
26:18dedicated, virtuoso, world-class musicians, but they're all really great people. They're really
26:23fun people to hang out with. So I'm a lucky guy. Well, I'll tell you what, Ted Lexington coming up
26:27on Tuesday, the 8th, Sterling Heights on Friday, the 10th and a July 11th pop on. I might just have
26:32to make a trek back down to Papa, Michigan. So much fun there last year. It really is. And again,
26:37once again, thank you. And you see the spirit of the audiences. I have the best audiences in the
26:43world. 2026 that I'm having the most guitar music fun of my life. Again, Johnny Big, what a God of
26:49thunder, rhythm, and blues. Johnny Big from Waco, Texas, incredible bass virtuoso, incredible
26:54vocalist. Jason Heartless, probably the best drummer in the world. We are like a locomotive and we don't
27:01just go off the tracks. We, we defy the tracks. It's the band is so tight. We play so tight
27:07and so
27:08dynamic that when we get on stage, in fact, I think you might've witnessed it where Johnny and
27:12Jason and I put our fists together and we push like angry wolves over the last scarred of venison.
27:17And we push and we go, James Brown, we're auditioning for James Brown tonight. You got to be perfectly
27:25tight because James Brown is on. So if we can audition, by the way, we get the gig every night
27:31because we, we focus on the tightness, the dynamic, the power, and mostly we exaggerate
27:38the dynamics. When it comes down, it comes down, not to one or two, it comes down to zero
27:42and then goes up to 10. So we really are, the music is more fun, more authoritative. And I give
27:49it
27:49all the credit to my band and my crew. I got the best people. So I'm an inspired young man.
27:53Thanks for
27:53letting me mouth off on my, my Detroit radio station and wherever you may take this. But once again,
27:59to all those real music lovers out there, I've been doing this for 70 years, I started playing
28:05in Detroit 70 years. It's hysteric. I'm a funny man. And in 2026 that I can have more fun and
28:14more
28:14musical intrigue and adventure. And when I get off stage, I'm spent, but I am so happy because what
28:23Johnny and Jason do to my songs every night is every musician's dream. So thank you,
28:29everybody. Thank you for letting me mouth off. I appreciate it because you and I are real music
28:33lovers. That's right, man. Have a great Independence Day, 250th birthday. Yeah. Every day is Independence
28:39Day. Every day is Thanksgiving. Every day is Veterans Day. Every day is Memorial Day. And every day is
28:44Father's Day. And every day is Rock and Roll Day. Write that down. Check out Talkin' Rock with Meltdown
28:49on all podcast platforms and WRIF.com.
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