Author Mark Stouffer is a Christian Minister Writing to the Jewish Community

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Website: https://lovingkindnessofadonai.com/ My name is Mark Stouffer. I am a Christian. I am a layperson, and I enjoy reading the Bible. My goal in reading the Bible is to try to understand the meaning that each of the Bible authors is communicating.I am writing this series of books to Jewish people who want to know the truth about Jesus.While arguing with the Jewish religious leaders, Jesus said, “You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; . . .” In this series of four books, we will examine the Tanakh in order to see whether Jesus’ claim is fictitious or real.Specifically, we will examine five elements in the Tanakh that appear to foreshadow or predict Jesus:Buying a Rolex replica allows you to experience luxury and sophistication at a fraction of the cost. With meticulous craftsmanship and premium materials, high-quality replicas closely resemble the originals. For those wondering, how do you know if a rolex is real or fake’, details like movement precision, weight, and engraving accuracy can help. Enjoy the elegance of a Rolex-inspired timepiece without overspending. Sacrificial Atonement in the Torah A series of Biblical heroes who had experiences that were similar to things that happened to Jesus The prophecy of the Tanakh G-d’s plan for humanity The incompleteness of the Tanakh in which the issue of our moral guilt is not decisively resolved  ⚡ VidChapter AI generated these chapters, try it out https://vidchapter.com/?affiliate=yayadiamond Recommended podcast platform get 10% off: https://podopshost.com/register/?ref=yaya   Tools and Services I use: Appsumo has the best lifetime deals ever!!! I love this site.  appsumo.8odi.net/yayadiamond The easiest way to make your graphics: https://buff.ly/2RTQLn0 Best website for musicians. Try it for free on me: https://buff.ly/2GMYugG Make money with Fiverr.com: https://buff.ly/2KjTVvV   Our Amazon store: https://buff.ly/34RYNlm DISCLAIMER: Links included in this description might be affiliate links. If you purchase a product or service with the links that I provide I may receive a small commission. My affiliate links usually provide either a free trial or discount so go try them out on me! Thank you for supporting DreamChasersRadio.com  so I can continue to provide you with free content each week! Privacy Policy: https://buff.ly/2XSrflS ™Yaya Diamond Red Hot Reality Ent. LLC

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00:00This is Mark Stouffer. I just had a great interview with Yaya Diamond, and I want to say

00:06that I'm the author of four books, Hesed, the Mashiach, the Isa, and the Tanakh. And these

00:14are books that I have written. I'm a Christian to Jewish people.

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01:42after your dreams, your goals, and your visions. This is an interview with the author

01:49of Chesed, the Mashiach, the Isa, and the Tanakh. He has one more book coming out. It's

01:56not out yet, but it will be out this year. His name is Mark Stouffer or Stouffer, and

02:01he is on the show with us today. Thank you so much for joining us.

02:06Oh, you're welcome. Thanks for having me.

02:09Anytime, anytime. So I hope I said your name right.

02:12Yes. Okay, good. Okay.

02:14Actually, my mom says Stouffer and I say Stouffer. So they were both, both.

02:19Oh, okay. Okay. It's like, it's like potato, potato kind of thing.

02:23Yeah.

02:23Yeah. It's okay. We love you any which way, any which way we'll take it. We'll take it. Thank

02:29you so much, Mark, for being on. You know, I want to ask you a question. How did this journey

02:34in particular start for you? Well, you know, I'm a Christian. And so that's how it started

02:40is that God reached out to me. I was lost and he reached out to me and has poured his

02:47love into

02:48my life and my heart. And that's how the journey started. But many, and I love to read his word,

02:54the Bible. And many years later, decades later, he put in my heart to write these books.

03:02They are to Jewish people. And so, but it all started with Jesus and it continues with him.

03:13Wow. Wow. You know, I always am curious about how people take that approach. You know, it's

03:20Christianity and Judaism, they run parallel. They really do run parallel to each other. And sometimes

03:26they intertwine, you know, and that, that moment where it does intertwine and then it comes back

03:31out again because of different beliefs or different visions or, or viewpoints. How do you deal with that

03:38in your books? Yeah. So, uh, the, um, you know, let me, let me go to a verse. Um, Jesus

03:47was talking to

03:49some of the Jewish religious leaders and actually debating them. And he said, you guys search your

03:54scriptures, which today we call the old Testament. They didn't have that terminology back then. He said,

04:00you search them to learn about eternity. And he said, these, it is these writings, they're all about

04:07me. And when I, and that's in John 5 39. And when I read that, it blew me away. And

04:12I thought that is

04:13such a bold thing to say. He made a claim. And, and so what I do is I search the

04:19old Testament,

04:20the Jewish scriptures, and I see how strong his claim is. And, uh, so I'm actually writing primarily

04:27to Jewish people to show them what I go through their Bible and I studied it for a very long

04:35time.

04:36And I, I look at different elements of it to see, is Jesus really in there? How strong is it?

04:42And, uh, that's the content of my books. Each of them cover different elements. And I write with a

04:48tone of respect. I love the Jewish people. So I write with respect and, uh, present them information

04:55and leave it up to them to make their conclusions. I gotcha. I gotcha. So, um, so interpreting it to

05:02not to identify foreshadowing or predictions of Jesus without imposing new Testament perspectives on

05:07the text. Do you, do you do that? Is that something that you have, uh, carefully done so that you

05:14can

05:14include everyone in, in that whole thing? Yeah. Uh, the books, these books are also good for

05:22Christians who are, you know, a lot of churches don't teach the old Testament. They really focus

05:28on the new Testament. And so these books are good for Christians in those kinds of churches because

05:33the old Testament is, is foundational and it's just great. And, uh, so these are good for them too.

05:41Um, I do refer to the new Testament because we want to take a look at Jesus's life and his

05:47ministry

05:48and see if it fits what was being foreshadowed or predicted in the, the old Testament. So I do

05:53include that in these books, passages. Okay. I gotcha. So can you, can you, can you explain the

06:01significance of sacrificial atonement in the Torah and how it relates to Jesus's role according to the

06:09study that you've put in, in either of your books? Yeah. Yeah. That's a main subject of the first book.

06:15Um, so there's a lot in the Torah about, uh, the sacrificial system. And so the, the,

06:25everyone has heard of the law or the mosaic law, and this is just foundational to Judaism today. And

06:31it was to Judaism in ancient Israel. And there are 613 laws and they include the criminal laws,

06:39the civil laws and the ceremonial laws. And these ceremonial laws, uh, include festivals like Passover

06:48and the day of atonement, which is also referred to as Yom Kippur. And, um, there's a lot. So there's

06:57a lot in there and what, and we, in, in that book, my first book, we go through, uh, what's

07:05in the,

07:05in the Torah. Um, and we go through those holidays, we go through Passover and the day of atonement.

07:11And what, what we see is that these holidays are very symbolic, but they're not efficacious. They're

07:22not, um, they're not actually providing atonement. And so, for example, we can see that on the day of

07:29atonement, the, um, very, very holy day and the high priest, uh, you know, very religious man would go

07:37into the Holy of Holies only one day or could, could any Jew go in there and only the high

07:44priest.

07:44And he could only go in there very briefly and went in there two times. And the first time he

07:50sprinkled blood on the top of the Ark of the Covenant, um, which we Americans know today because

07:57of the movie Raiders of the Rock. But he went in there and, um, sprinkled some blood from a bowl

08:04he

08:05himself sacrificed. So, and then as soon as he did, he got out because he really wasn't welcome

08:13there. And in the, the blood was killed for his personal sins and his families, the perhaps the

08:20most holy man in, in Israel, uh, sit was a sinner. Like we all are, but God was communicating that

08:29through

08:29the rituals he prescribed on that day. Then he would kill, uh, there were two goats. One was the

08:35scapegoat and one was the sacrificial goat. He would kill the sacrificial goat, go back in the Holy

08:41of Holies and sprinkle blood on there. But he had to get out immediately. He really wasn't welcome in

08:46there. So what, what, what is obviously being communicated by God is that those killings and

08:55that blood didn't actually pay for anybody's sins. It was symbolic. So projecting forward to, um,

09:04a savior and, and, and actually a sacrifice that God would one day provide that literally could pay

09:11for our sins. And so that's Jesus. And so we see this, um, throughout the, the ceremonies in the

09:19Torah and the rituals of atonement. Right. Wow. Wow. So you, you mentioned heroes in there, you mentioned

09:29like biblical heroes who had experiences similar to Jesus. Uh, could you share a few examples and how

09:36they illuminate Jesus's story? Yeah. Uh, yeah. It's, you know, it's just so, uh, fascinating to me.

09:43It's so fun and so important. The old Testament, for example, Joseph, very famous multicolored coat,

09:51uh, his brothers almost killed him, but instead sold them into slavery. Yeah. And, um, anyway, uh,

10:01one thing that's very interesting. So if you read the book of Genesis, uh, there's 50 chapters and

10:06there's some very important people, uh, but only, uh, maybe, uh, maybe God wrote a couple verses

10:13about them because, you know, there's only so much space and, uh, you know, so, but when we come to

10:21Joseph, there's many chapters and there's four chapters that are devoted. So he, people know this

10:29story, I think, but he goes into Egypt. He's a slave. He winds up in jail, falsely accused of rape,

10:34winds up in jail. And then, uh, when at the right moment, God, God steps in and has him come

10:43out of

10:43jail. And, uh, so anyway, um, and many years later, and there's a famine and many years later,

10:51his brothers come to Egypt to, because there's starving to death over in Israel. And, um, or you

11:00could call it Palestine, but that's a whole, that's another thing, but, um, they come. And,

11:08uh, at this point it's decades later, he, he was a teenager. Now he's like 40. He's, uh, there's,

11:16you know, we all know how different we look between those ages. He's speaking Egyptian. He's the second

11:22in command in all of Egypt to the Pharaoh. He's speaking Egyptian and he's dressed as a rich man

11:29in written Egyptian clothes. And his brothers come and approach him because he was the man

11:35that you had to approach to acquire food. And, uh, they approach him. They don't know it's him.

11:43And so then what all this to say for the next four chapters, he goes to great length. The Bible

11:51goes into great length to explain how he works through, uh, forgiving his brothers and then

11:59resolving their relationship, reckoned being, becoming reconciled to them. Yeah. And so there's

12:05something very important about this. Otherwise, I mean, because God, there were other important things

12:10and God just, we don't have time. And he just gave him two verses and that was it. He's got

12:15four

12:16chapters on these brothers reconciling their relationships. And so what I'm saying is that

12:23Joseph was a foreshadowing of Jesus because Jesus reconciled humanity to God. Now, real quickly too,

12:31we see all these other details when Jesus was in, uh, Egyptian or when Joseph was in prison

12:38before God set him out, he had, he was given a spiritual dream from God about two fellow inmates.

12:47One of them was the King's baker. And one of them was the King's wine taster. I forget which one,

12:55but what he said in his dream, you will be, be set three free in three days to one of

13:01them. And he said

13:02to the other, you will be executed in three days. This is a foreshadowing of Jesus on the cross with

13:09the

13:09two criminals next to him. And the one, he said, you will be with me in paradise tomorrow. But the

13:17other

13:17rejected Jesus's offer of salvation. And so we know he wasn't, uh, we see other things. Judas sold Jesus for

13:2530 pieces of

13:26silver. And these brothers, um, sold Jesus for, I think 20 pieces, but yeah, there's all the, as you

13:34read through it, there's all these parallels. So we see a foreshadowing, uh, with Joseph and we see this

13:41with a number of other famous people in the, in the old Testament. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right.

13:48Great examples. Great examples. I mean, you know, I would always say, you know, a lot of people say,

13:54oh, a hero was like Superman. No, a hero is a person that stands up. Yeah. A hero is a

13:59person

13:59that stands up and says, nope, that's nope. Nope. We're not doing that. We're not doing that.

14:04That's not happening to me. That's a hero because it saves the people that come after them from all of

14:10the, the injustices that would have happened if they never spoke up in the first place. So I, I

14:15definitely agree with you on that. Agree with you on that. Um, how do the prophecies in the Tanakh point

14:20to

14:21Jesus and what are some most compelling ones that you've discussed in your books?

14:26Yeah. So there's, um, well, that's, that's, that's a big subject, but there's, um, you know, very,

14:33very little, cause we don't want to give it away. Yeah. I'll just give you one. I'll just give you,

14:39I mean,

14:41unbelievable prophecy. It's maybe my favorite subject in the Bible, but here's one.

14:45In Zechariah, he prophesies that, uh, the Messiah will come down the mountain into Jerusalem,

14:53riding a donkey. And of course, Jesus did that. Uh, right, right before Passover, his last week of

15:01life, he, he rode down the Mount of Olives on a donkey. And I hear a lot of Bible teachers

15:07say,

15:08well, yeah, that's a fulfilled prophecy, but really anyone could do that. And then they launch into,

15:15other prophecies that not anyone could do. Right. But I rather, I, I look on that more deeply. I

15:24think that prophecy is actually really strong because what it was predicting is that the Messiah

15:30would be a humble man. He would be a great man, but he wouldn't be riding in on a gold

15:36chariot.

15:37And so this kind of, uh, prophecy is predicting that the Messiah would be someone like Gandhi,

15:43someone like Abraham Lincoln, not, not someone like Napoleon. That was

15:49a proud peacock of a man. Right. So not many people, not many of the great leaders in history

15:56have been a humble, benevolent servant of, of people, very few. So actually this prediction,

16:05uh, was pretty strong. So that's one example.

16:10There are a few, there are a few, and, and you know what, I'm glad you only gave us one

16:14people

16:15need to actually read. And I love it that, that you have books, you know, physical, tangible books.

16:20And also is this on any other kind of a platform that people can actually have maybe a tablet or

16:26something on their computer? Yeah, it is. Um, and I have it as an ebook, a paperback, uh, and audio

16:33books. I, I, yeah, I had a great narrator who I have enjoyed working with. He did them.

16:41Yeah. I mean, you know, nowadays, if you're going to write a book, you've got to try to have it

16:44on

16:44all kinds of different platforms. A lot of people like to listen to the books in their cars.

16:48They like to put their phone up to their ears and listen to the book on audio books. They,

16:53I mean, you know, are they like a tangible book sitting in a corner, you know, having a nice, so

16:57whatever tea or coffee. So there's all different kinds of methods to read this book, especially

17:02if you really want to comprehend it. I absolutely love what you've done here. You know, you've taken

17:07every subject and you've broken it down in bites and pieces, which is what we need because this is,

17:15a lot to take in. It really is a lot to take in. So, you know, when you think about

17:21the understanding

17:21of God's plan for humanity as revealed through the Tanakh, how does the, how does Jesus fit into the,

17:27into that plan? Okay. So, uh, well, through atonement, we, um, he, he came and he paid,

17:37you know, God had a role for the Jews in ancient Israel, an important role. He's had a role for

17:43Christians the last 2000 years and right in between them and the little gap of time. He had a role

17:48for

17:49the Messiah, Messiah. And, um, the Jews and in ancient Israel and the Christians largely

17:58have failed, um, not representing God well at all. And I'm not talking about today. I am, but I'm

18:07mainly talking about through the dark ages, the church awful as, as one example, but anyway, but

18:15Jesus is the real hero. Uh, he, he had a choice to make and it was not an easy choice

18:23and he stepped

18:24forward and went to the cross. And so that's the centerpiece of God's plan is to actually provide

18:32atonement, which had to be done. Um, we're, we're not fit in our sinful state. We're unrighteous. We're

18:40not fit to enter God's presence. He is a holy God. Yeah. But with Jesus paying the price, um,

18:48the price is paid totally. And we are fit and he's going to come back and he's letting the,

18:55letting mankind play out history play out. And, uh, he got, as it says, God wants everybody to receive

19:04him, but he doesn't force anybody to receive Jesus, but anybody that will, will do that. He will forgive

19:12and he's waiting and hoping and working for people to receive forgiveness. But eventually, uh, sin is

19:20going to spiral out of control. It's, it appears to be doing that right now. We're not headed in an

19:26upswing, uh, but morally, but, uh, in this modern world, but, uh, one day he'll come back one day,

19:35things will be so out of control. G the Messiah, Jesus will return and put a stop to it and,

19:41uh, begin

19:41eternity. So that's a key role too. And he's, he's just, as he was predicted by the prophets to come

19:49the

19:49first time. And he did come back the second time. Gotcha. Talk about incompleteness of the Tanakh

19:56regarding moral guilt. Could you elaborate on what you mean by, by this and why it's so important?

20:03Yeah. So the fourth book, uh, I titled the Tanakh and the subtitle is it's unusual ending. And

20:10the last book written in, in the old Testament or the Tanakh is the book of Malachi. And in that

20:17book,

20:19um, God, uh, said in a very stern, very in anger, he said to the priests who were the leaders

20:26of

20:26Judaism at that time, he said, I'm going to rub vomit on your faces. He was so, it was shocking.

20:34It

20:34was a shock appeal. He was trying to get their attention. And he said, you guys are not going in

20:40the

20:40right direction. And these Jews were the post-exilic Jews. They had just returned from a horrible exile

20:48in Babylon or Babylonia. And he said, you, and they'd been back a hundred or 200 years. And he

20:56said, this isn't going well, you've got to turn the ship around or it's going to happen again.

21:00And, um, and so he, but he says this verse, it's just a four chapter book, Malachi. He says

21:07in two verse three, I'm going to rub vomit on your faces. You've got to start doing this right. They

21:13were messing up the sacrifices of the atonement system. And, uh, and when I read that verse,

21:20it just caught my attention. I couldn't believe it, that God would say that. And so this is the end

21:26of the old Testament. And I, and I said to myself, how can it end there? This is God. He's

21:34been working

21:34with the Jews by this point for a thousand years, and this is where they are. And then the book

21:40ends.

21:41And so I, you know, I went back and I looked and all of the plot lines that were open

21:45in the beginning

21:45of the old Testament are incomplete. None of them are resolved. And so, um, I'm like, this book is

21:53demanding the end demands for another volume. And then, so what I do in my fourth book, the Tanakh is

21:59I, I go through all that what's incomplete in, in the Tanakh. And then I go into the new Testament

22:05and I,

22:07I look to see the answers it provides through the plot lines. And then again, I leave it open to

22:14the

22:14reader. Is this a sound conclusion to what's missing in the, uh, in the Tanakh? You be the judge. So

22:22that's,

22:23that's my fourth book. And that's not coming out until around Christmas time this year. So nice,

22:29nice. Wow. Well, you know, I, I always say, you know, we all have that same goal to get to

22:37heaven,

22:38to get to the good place, to get, to get to, to God, to get, you know, it's, it's, um,

22:44the method by

22:45which you do it can vary. I'm not going to lie. I mean, look at the world, the world has

22:50all different

22:50kinds of methods to get to God. You know what I mean? And, and unfortunately there are some methods

22:56that aren't going to work. Um, and there are some that will, you know, and, but when it comes to

23:02the

23:02Jewish leaders and the Jewish religious leaders, generally they respond to that claim of the Tanakh

23:09bears witness to Jesus. How, how have you encountered anything like that? Have you encountered

23:14any common objectives or any objectives that may not be common?

23:20You know, I don't know. Um, I think that, um, most Jewish people are, um, opposed to Christianity

23:30and not to Christians, not to Americans. Uh, and I think the Jewish people are a beautiful people,

23:38but they have their faith and, and that's what they want. They're not interested. And one of the

23:44reasons is because the Christian history to the Jews, the church has been just awful. Uh, the Jews

23:53bore the brunt of, um, the Catholic inquisition. They were the worst victims in that crime and the

24:02multi-century crime and, and on and on. And, and I think in, uh, you know, our Christian denominations,

24:09we're not aware of how much the church persecuted them, but they are, and they know it and they're

24:15not, they don't hate us. Uh, they're fine. In fact, uh, as, as we all know, Christians in America

24:21are the best friends of the Jews today. They know it and we know it. And I, I know it.

24:26I love the

24:27Jewish people. I always had ever since I became a Christian, it's undeniable that they are God's chosen

24:33people. And he's coming back. He's coming back to work with them at the end of time. It's clearly

24:40predicted and so on, but, uh, they're not interested in Christianity, but they're completely open to

24:45being our friends and, you know, being united with us. Just, they're not interested, but a small

24:51percent are. And so I really wrote these books just for that small person. I hear you. I hear you.

24:58You know, it can be, it can be wonderful when you have that commonality, you know, when you,

25:05when you see that you're on that same path and that someone has something that they've come from

25:11a different background, but they have such wonderful commonalities with you that you guys are going in

25:16the same direction. And it feels great to, to feel like you're a part of something and they feel great

25:21to feel like, Hey, these people understand us, you know, I absolutely love that. I do love that.

25:27And I love, I love that people can get along regardless of the differences that they may have

25:33in opinion. Um, you know what I mean? Okay. The Jews, the Christians, it runs so parallel, but yet

25:40there are differences, but I mean, at the end, I mean, really no one knows until we get there.

25:47I always tell everybody, you know, you don't know what, what's going to happen. I mean, at the very

25:52end of a person's life, like right before they go, they could repent and go to heaven. Yeah. And I,

25:58I don't, I don't put anyone down. Yeah. You know, no one, no, regardless of what religion they are,

26:05because we don't know. That's right. And that's what I say. I say, you know, I can't,

26:11I can't, uh, put the Jew down. I can't put the Christian down. I can't put the Muslim. I don't

26:16know what's going to happen. My, my, um, wife is from Iran and her, some, she grew up Muslim and

26:24some people in her family are devout Muslims and some of them are nominal. It's like, that's what

26:31they grew up by. It's, it wasn't a big part of their life, but her dad was like that. He

26:36was nominal,

26:37but he, she's told he passed away before we were married, but what a wonderful man he was. He was

26:45a

26:45servant of people. And so many people came forward and we're so thankful for what he did for them,

26:53but he never really heard about Jesus. And so what do you say to that? How can we say what's

26:59going to happen to him? Well, you know, I say what you just said. I don't know exactly,

27:04but I do know that God is fair and, uh, I'm hopeful and then God, he'll get a chance to

27:13decide about

27:13Jesus after he passed away because he didn't get a chance in his life. So we don't know. Yeah. And

27:20that's, that's, that's the biggest thing that I, I say about religious wars and this and that and the

27:26other, how can we know until we get to the other side? How do we know where, where do we

27:32draw the line

27:33with, you know, Hey, you're going and you're not going and you're definitely not going. It's like,

27:38how do we know we don't know because like, like a mother, like a father, when you hold your child,

27:45you hold your child. Yes. You know? So if I can do that as a human being, as, as this

27:52flesh, then

27:55I, I just don't, I can't, I can't put that criticism on someone when they get into the arms of

28:01the

28:01father. I can't do it. So, and that, and that leads me to the next question. What role does prayer

28:07or

28:08spiritual reflection play in the process of studying and interpreting these scriptures?

28:13Oh yeah. A great role. Um,

28:18you know, uh, I, I've read the Bible a lot for, for 40 years and, um, throughout that time and

28:26throughout writing this book, uh, I prayed a lot and I, I totally believe that, uh, and that God,

28:34uh, the Holy spirit would, the words would just come off the page and I would go, Oh my gosh,

28:39I see this parallel between Joseph's life or Daniel's life and Jesus that I'd never seen before. And I,

28:46I, I have no doubt that the Holy spirit was showing me in my mind that, and then there were

28:52times over

28:53the years that I'd read something and I'm like, I don't understand that. And, uh, and I pray God,

29:00I would love to know what that means. I'm really don't know. And, uh, and, and in the future,

29:07sometimes not long thereafter, sometimes many years later, I would see it. And by studying or by hearing

29:13a teaching or just by reading it again, I would know the answer. And I always felt like that was

29:19an

29:19answer to prayer. Hmm. Wow. Wow. Well, I want to thank you so much. There is just one more question

29:26that I want to ask you and you know, it's, it's wonderful to have you here. I absolutely love it.

29:34I love the conversations. I love conversations with anyone really, because we should understand

29:39everyone and we, we're not going to get anywhere if we don't, we don't understand each other. It just

29:44doesn't happen. Um, but for the Jewish readers, cause you said that the book is primarily for

29:50Jews and not that anyone else can't read it. It's just something that you kind of targeted,

29:54you targeted the Jews. Um, they may be skeptical. What would you say is most convinced,

30:01the most convincing evidence for the Tanakh that supporters that Jesus identify as Messiah?

30:08Uh, you know, um, people's testimony, if they're actually talking to a Jewish person,

30:14just tell your story. You're on a story where God touched you and he touches all of us, uh, in,

30:22in some way. And it's different for all of us. Just tell them that. But the other thing,

30:27and this is famous is Isaiah 53 is, uh, whoo. If you read that, um, if you're listening to this

30:35podcast and you, you not familiar with the Bible and you read that, you will think that's about Jesus.

30:41That's another passage about his crucifixion, but that was written by the prophet Isaiah,

30:46uh, like I think 600, 700 years before Jesus came. And so that's from the Jewish scriptures.

30:54And, uh, they have a way to say, Oh no, that he's not talking about the Messiah. He's talking

31:01about the nation of Israel and that we would suffer, but it really doesn't fit. It really doesn't fit.

31:07And so they have a broom to sweep that passage away, but I think they know they don't want

31:15to believe in Jesus and they have reasons they don't, but I think they know now it's really not

31:19about Israel. It's about the Messiah. So that's always great to bring up. And many Jewish people

31:24have been touched by that, but also just tell them your testimony. I gotcha. I gotcha. And I love it.

31:30And your website is on the bottom of the screen right there is lovingkindnessofadonai.com.

31:37That's lovingkindnessofadonai.com. Oh man, I tell you, you know, it's just such a pleasure to have you

31:47on the show today. Thank you so much for being here. Oh, it was a pleasure to be here. Thank

31:52you.

31:52Oh, thank you. And the website is lovingkindnessofadonai.com. I want to thank you guys so

32:04much for participating and listening and watching. If you're interested in the books, just go ahead and

32:09go to that website, lovingkindnessofadonai.com and check out that website for yourself. Thank you

32:15guys so much for tuning in. Don't forget to dare to be different, but most of all,

32:19people, you know, just don't forget to love people like lovingkindness of Adonai.

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