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Bobby took us Below The Belt to dig into some hypothetical George Pickens trades. They discussed potential packages from the Chiefs, Raiders, and 49ers, the current draft capital, and more.

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00:00the great bobby belt bobby knows ball hey let's talk ball we're the ball knowers and we just talk
00:06ball maybe not let's trade george pickens i feel bad for your mentions today baby and let's talk
00:12about it here on below the belt which is brought to you by dnm leasing dm auto leasing.com
00:17and to be clear i don't think they should trade george pickens right now i don't think they would
00:25get the return in all likelihood that would make sense to do it uh you can just instead tag him
00:32make him play again or tag him and move him in the offseason give him a chance to build back
00:38a
00:38little more value whatever else i know what i am doing though i'm going on calci and finding the
00:42pickens props because every commentator yesterday after jerry was on with us said go get them george
00:48numbers get ready i'm gonna be a force feeding after jerry told us uh yeah he needs to get the
00:54football so jordan schultz was on the pivot uh yesterday or two days ago i think and had said
01:02that hey you know uh the thing everybody's watching the trade deadline they're looking to see is dallas
01:07gonna get rid of george pickens could they potentially trade george pickens which that's
01:13notable to me just on the front that it was said to ryan clark and ryan clark is very very
01:21close with
01:21george pickens agent by like very publicly close to george pickens agent david muligeta
01:26so something like that being said and pulling back the curtain a little bit when he steps up there to
01:31do a segment like that on the pivot they know what they're gonna hit they know he knows all right
01:37i'm
01:37gonna throw it over to you you're gonna what are you gonna have here you're gonna have these things to
01:41talk about cool like it's funny for all the the times that people are like you're told what to ask
01:47or
01:47whatever like those reporter hits yeah jerry told us to ask him about being cheap at coaches yesterday
01:52those report those are those reporter hits on tv are a lot of times you do know what's coming you
01:57do
01:57know what's being asked and you do know what the answer like that's how they set it up because
02:00they're so regimented on time they gotta make sure everything's timed out so that's why i don't like
02:05the nbc pregame show because they got to fit the whole league in and everyone has like 10 seconds to
02:11talk yeah and it's this quick hit you gotta have your one sentence boom move on yep and so and
02:17i
02:17had like the highest ratings in america for years assuming they had that conversation then ryan
02:23clark also knew all right he's about to come on here and say george is i can't or is somebody
02:27that
02:28teams are looking around about and wondering about so the fact that it was done on that platform i think
02:33leads me to believe there are probably teams in need of a receiver who are just going to pick up
02:36the
02:36phone and call dallas they may be told no right away but they'll probably pick it up and go like
02:40hey
02:40are y'all gonna move off of george or like hey is george potentially out there just you know making
02:44calls trying to figure out if we can add to the offense and so i've got three options for you
02:49and you tell me if you take any of these for now or after season either right now right now
02:55okay
02:55these are this is before tuesday before the trade deadline all right so i'm gonna give you the the team
03:01the why and then the offer that they give you number one the kansas city chiefs
03:09so the chiefs obviously could use some extra weapons offensively to help things out i mean
03:15i shouldn't say weapons and the chiefs in the same side tyreek yeah uh they they could use
03:20like another receiver they need some juice they yeah and for mahomes if he was just able to have
03:25like a pickens all right throw it up let him go get it type of player that would probably help
03:28their
03:28offense pretty significantly yeah and their plays are so slow developing george might actually have time
03:32to get open yeah that's exactly what you could do and that's why andy's a genius uh so what the
03:38chiefs would offer you in this instance they would offer you a second their second coming up in the
03:44draft which probably is not going to be very high and they would offer you the rams third coming up
03:50in
03:50the draft okay which at this stage looks like the rams are probably outside the playoffs but we'll see
03:57okay um so that would be chiefs second and rams third for that pick would you want instead of the
04:03three a player back um no i mean depending i mean i guess if they threw me like somebody who's
04:10in the
04:10second year of their deal who was high enough upside but i don't think they're i don't think that
04:14matches kansas city right now this is just first round but pretend it's second pick at 24 rams
04:21um well their first runner goes cleveland 16 but 16 so basically 16 and 24 in the second and third
04:29round okay next up here the raiders the raiders they offer you because they're four and four right
04:40now maybe they're believing a little bit you've made trades with the raiders before not just the
04:43marie cooper trade they've got good relationships with the raiders to be able to call and and work
04:47something out raiders obviously have been willing to make some moves sounds like they're gonna hold
04:52on to max crosby jory epstein said she talked to people around the league and was told yeah
04:56everybody expects the raiders are gonna hold on there unless they get blown away with the ravens
05:00offer again uh but the raiders offer you a second coming up which if we all think the raiders are
05:08gonna turn like they will we'll probably be somewhere in the 40s let's say uh but the right now they
05:14pick a 14th they offer you a second and they offer you some o-line depth they offer you jackson
05:19powers
05:19johnson who was the interior offensive lineman center guard who was coming out of oregon a couple
05:24years ago that they picked in the second round that brought us and walchuk were in love with him
05:30cowboys liked him a lot um i think that was the guyton draft where they took him but jackson powers
05:35johnson has fallen out of favor with them seems like and he plays what position he's center and guard
05:40so it would just be offensive line depth for tyler smith gets banged up okay we got somebody who
05:44can step in maybe you got somebody he's not starting over bb not now but i mean if he gets
05:49here and he wakes up he was a more well-regarded prospect i think in the same draft as bb
05:53okay and
05:55so upside and a second round pick if you're gonna trade with the raiders you might want to do before
06:00sunday their next four are the niners seahawks broncos and browns so that could turn could turn
06:08quick so that could be a really pretty good pick and then finally the san francisco 49ers
06:16who are in your conference so what yeah yeah just generally they the cowboys haven't but they're in
06:22your conference and they say we will give you a first rounder for him it is not going to be
06:29next
06:29year's you can have 28 first rounder and that's all you're getting you're not getting extra capital
06:34you're not getting so with the raiders you get the second end player chiefs and give you two picks
06:38next year 49ers say we'll give it to you but you're not going to get that first round pick for
06:43another year and a half um raiders deals out that's three for me it is between casey and san franc
06:54or holding tight you could say you could just say i don't want any of these and i'm going to
07:02wait
07:03a first rounder in 28 yeah it's a tax i have to pay the tax uh or wait
07:14see waiting i i don't know i can wait i'm gonna get it to it i'm i'm gonna get a
07:20i'm i first off his
07:23value first off his value i think can can go up and i think the value right now is a
07:32second at best
07:33and maybe settling as a third if you think you can get a first in the off season there's no
07:40reason to
07:40take the san francisco deal because you would just keep pickings for the rest of the year and then get
07:44the same return upcoming yeah or even if it was the year after it's like okay well i'm getting the
07:48first from the same time frame and i got to run this out with pickings like what's the purpose for
07:53me right now of doing the kansas city deal for a second and a third now versus playing out the
08:00nfc
08:00east and doing a second or a third in the off season if you recognize well one you get to
08:08you're playing that basically if this season is going to go sideways and we're going to really
08:11go down here you're increasing the likelihood that pickings go sideways and does not have that
08:18sort of value in the off season yeah i'll uh i'll probably wait i'll probably wait for the
08:24off season chop i would probably at no point is he gonna get traded for a fourth i don't believe
08:32it's not well but that would be the compensatory no you could you could trade you could tag and
08:37trade in the off season yeah but i mean they tagged this year that he couldn't trade like you know
08:42you would have to be they were not gonna they would have taken he his value was not a first
08:47this
08:47off season nobody was willing to give it up if they would if somebody would have said we'll give
08:51you a first they would work something out yeah but the the tag doesn't necessarily they thought
08:55they were going to rebuild it see that's the other thing that doesn't make sense about the they're
08:58driving down his value argument it's why they i they don't plan on keeping him here so like if they
09:05want to do that they would try to build that value up and move him is what you would think
09:10i would
09:11probably do the i guess conspiracy theorist i guess the kansas city deal kansas city deal instead of
09:17sitting tight you would just take that one now because dallas where it stands right now they have
09:21if season ended today they would be picking 20th with the packers pick because the 10th overall pick
09:26that they have would go to the jets whichever one's higher is what goes to the jets uh they would
09:31be
09:31picking 20th and then they would have a second rounder no third rounder and pittsburgh's fourth which
09:37might be at the back end of the fourth round why wouldn't you just wait and work out a second
09:42and a third after because i don't know that i get a second or third after you might be able
09:47to might
09:47be able to get worse you don't know so i mean if i have it's not gonna get worse it's
09:54like selling
09:54a house they say the first offer is usually the best one it's not gonna get worse i do think
09:58it'll get
09:58worse from a second or a third what do you what's he gonna do in the second half of the
10:04season to
10:04crater that he'd have to totally melt down and go psycho you might get a you might get a i
10:10would i
10:10would guess he he he could have as good or better numbers in the second half he's got pretty decent
10:15numbers right now well i know but so then the team that trades from they could tag him right
10:20dallas would tag him and then trade his rights and then they would work out the team that if let's
10:24say let's say can't say trades for him today they could tag him at the end of the year right
10:27yeah so
10:28they they would be they would be paying more because they'd be getting more games out of it
10:32they'd be getting 25 games out of it as opposed to just 17 well and the other thing to remember
10:37here is there is a thought that when they reach the offseason dallas can tag him and if the league
10:43looks at him and goes you're not bringing him back then they go we'll give you a third yeah because
10:49we're gonna give you a third because a third is the max you're gonna get out on compensatory so we'll
10:53give you a little bit better position in the third round guaranteed and you'll get the pick now
10:57instead of having to wait a year but otherwise that's what you're getting is a third from us
11:00now they could if they get to the standoff and he's really had a good breakout year and p there's
11:05like a market for him then you could drive it up a little but and what would you take uh
11:09i would do
11:11i would consider the chiefs but i think ultimately i'd say i'm gonna bank on he plays better down the
11:20stretch and they're able to get more this offseason yeah
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