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John explores how modern prophetic leaders such as Cindy Jacobs trace directly back to the numerology-driven theology of William Branham, Gordon Lindsay, and the Voice of Healing movement. The episode unpacks how Jacobs’ 5777 prophecy, her connection to the International Coalition of Apostles, and her political messaging around Donald Trump mirror the same manipulative patterns embedded in early Latter Rain teachings.
John explains that these networks merge fortune-telling techniques, authoritarian apostolic structures, and political propaganda into a system designed to influence followers through confusing numerology and claims of divine insight. By tracing Jacobs’ involvement with Christ for the Nations and her reliance on later-rain numerological frameworks, the episode shows how today’s NAR “prophecies” are recycled patterns from Branham-era cult dynamics rather than authentic expressions of biblical prophecy.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:07:41 Apostolic Networks and Authority Claims
00:14:49 Revival Publishing and Organizational Foundations
00:21:49 Numbers, Symbols, and Prophetic Meaning
00:28:00 Jubilee Themes and Calendar Interpretations
00:35:25 Politics, Prophecy, and Public Influence
00:44:35 Institutional Legacy and Modern Expansion
00:50:21 Patterns Repeating in Contemporary Movements______________________
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John explains that these networks merge fortune-telling techniques, authoritarian apostolic structures, and political propaganda into a system designed to influence followers through confusing numerology and claims of divine insight. By tracing Jacobs’ involvement with Christ for the Nations and her reliance on later-rain numerological frameworks, the episode shows how today’s NAR “prophecies” are recycled patterns from Branham-era cult dynamics rather than authentic expressions of biblical prophecy.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:07:41 Apostolic Networks and Authority Claims
00:14:49 Revival Publishing and Organizational Foundations
00:21:49 Numbers, Symbols, and Prophetic Meaning
00:28:00 Jubilee Themes and Calendar Interpretations
00:35:25 Politics, Prophecy, and Public Influence
00:44:35 Institutional Legacy and Modern Expansion
00:50:21 Patterns Repeating in Contemporary Movements______________________
Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:
Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962
Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K
______________________
– Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham
– Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ
– Visit the website: https://william-branham.org
– Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg
– Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham
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00:30Hello, welcome to another episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast.
00:36I'm your host, John Collins, the author and founder of William Branham Historical Research
00:41at william-branham.org, where history proves that truth, or at least their version of it,
00:47is truly stranger than fiction.
00:49Today, I'm digging into Cindy Jacobs, which is a little bit funny because we have been
00:55talking about Cindy Jacobs for, I don't know how many months or if years now.
01:00In my history series that I'm doing with Stephen Montgomery, where we're talking through the
01:06converging apostasy, Steve frequently brings up the name Cindy Jacobs.
01:12And I have done some research.
01:15I've not really dug as deep as I plan to.
01:17I intend to go much, much deeper, but superficially, as you study all of these different threads
01:25of apostasy, you're going to find Cindy Jacobs' name right there in the midst of many, many
01:31threads.
01:32And in fact, whenever I began doing this little cartoon series, I don't know if any of you
01:39remember it, but I did this little cartoon series on YouTube where it was doing some satire
01:45on the New Apostolic Reformation, and one of the themes that I came up with was the Apostolic
01:52Governance Committee, which was fully intended to be a joke.
01:57And after I put it out there and continued to study, I began to realize, actually, that
02:02kind of exists under different names, and Cindy Jacobs is also tied to it.
02:08Jacobs is officially a NAR, a NAR apostle or prophet.
02:13But I think she claims both.
02:15But she is one of the founding leaders of the International Coalition of Apostles.
02:21And this term, this phrase, this International Coalition of Apostles, it's something that
02:29was originally formed by C. Peter Wagner.
02:31But Wagner listed Cindy Jacobs among the recognized apostles in the movement.
02:37And so, whenever you're thinking of the International Coalition of Apostles, and you're thinking
02:42all of these names and all of this converging apostasy, you begin to think about all of the
02:48different heresies that are flowing from said apostles into the movement.
02:54And as Stephen Montgomery calls it, the converging apostasy.
02:58But I have other friends who talk about some of the heresies that come forth.
03:04And when talking about names like Cindy Jacobs, he gets a stern face and he says, damnable
03:10heresies, because some of the things that they say is just so far off the mark.
03:15I look at it, you know, I do look at it from a biblical perspective.
03:19I've read the Bible over and over.
03:22And when you compare what these people are doing, whether it's Cindy Jacobs or any of the
03:27other NAR guys, and you compare it to the Bible, the two are totally different.
03:32So, for me, it's not even really a biblical question.
03:36I look at it more like I would, if you're driving down the road, you see all of these
03:40signs where the neon lights are shining.
03:44And it says, have your fortunes read up till 10 p.m. or some weird thing like this.
03:50People are going and they're paying money to sit while some lady looks into a crystal ball
03:55to tell them a future that they know is probably not going to be accurate.
03:59But they're going to find one little, tiny, trivial detail within whatever is said about
04:04that future and say, oh, this person got it right.
04:08That one detail out of everything else that they got wrong.
04:13I look at it more like this.
04:14This is not really prophecy.
04:16This is fortune telling.
04:17But the reason that I'm bringing this up today, it goes a little bit beyond fortune telling
04:24because there is a pattern.
04:26And unless you know the history behind it, you really can't understand the pattern.
04:32And if you don't understand the pattern, people who aren't familiar with this, they get sucked
04:38in and they get fooled by the pattern.
04:40And it's something that's mathematically silly, but it is a real thing.
04:46And it's something that I actually grew up with.
04:49So as I was untangling all of my cult indoctrinated programming and tried to begin to understand,
04:57well, what is prophecy?
04:58What are these people claiming to be prophets?
05:01And how can a person claim to be a prophet and say something prophetically and get all
05:07of the details, except maybe one or two trivial details, correct?
05:12And how do all of the people ignore all of the incorrect details?
05:17Because again, it's like a crystal ball, but it's like a very dirty crystal ball.
05:23You can only see part of it.
05:25So I began to go down the path of just studying.
05:29First, I started in the Bible.
05:30I began to read, what are the prophets?
05:33What did they prophesy?
05:35How did those prophecies relate to events that happened within the Bible?
05:41Was it a futuristic prophecy?
05:44Was it just simply God speaking?
05:46And there's different categories of prophecies that I began to realize and recognize and
05:52put into, in my mind, just categories of what is prophecy.
05:56But then you compare it to today, and it's just so far different.
06:01It's, I don't even really consider it biblical prophecy.
06:04It's more of a fortune telling, you know, gimmick for the people.
06:09But the problem is, if you know the Bible and you understand what is actually being said in
06:15the Bible, fortune telling is from the evil side, not from the good side.
06:20So you see all of these people who are doing this thing, who are mimicking what the Bible
06:27would call pure evil.
06:28But yet at the same time, it's a lot of trickery.
06:33So they're not really inherently, you know, from the surface, they're not really inherently
06:38evil.
06:38They just find that there's a good way to make money.
06:41And I look at all of this and I see a bunch of money makers in it.
06:45But then there's always that question in the back of my mind, if fortune telling is evil,
06:50and these people who aren't really fortune tellers are tricking the people into believing
06:56that they're fortune tellers, and the people associate the fortune telling with God instead
07:02of actual biblical prophecy, is it not evil, inherently evil, just because of the whole
07:09structure of the thing?
07:10So my mind goes back and forth.
07:11Was this something that Satan poured into the church?
07:15Was this something that was inherently evil?
07:17Because ancient spirits of evil came down and influenced people like Sidney Jacobs.
07:23And for me, I just, I kind of put that off to the side because I'll never be able to
07:27answer that.
07:28But what I can answer is that there is a pattern.
07:31It's a historical pattern.
07:33And these people are using a historical gimmick that has made lots of people, lots of money.
07:39So with that, I'm going to dive into Cindy Jacobs.
07:43As I said, she was one of the founding leaders of the International Coalition of Apostles.
07:49So if you're thinking Harry Potter, you're thinking the International Coalition of Wizards,
07:55it's very, very similar what they're trying to portray to the people.
08:00If you know the historical backgrounds that I have gone into with other individuals, I won't
08:07go into their names in this podcast, but if you understand the structure of the fraternal
08:12organizations, they all wanted to have something that was very mystical and enchanting and enlightening
08:19and something that, again, mimicked the forces of evil, not the forces of good.
08:25But that's the kind of thing that we're dealing with here.
08:29So they created this International Coalition of Apostles.
08:33And Cindy Jacobs became recognized as one of the key apostles in the New Apostolic Reformation
08:39movement.
08:40And she leads global apostolic networks, including the Reformation Prayer Network, I believe it
08:49is, the Generals International, different organizations.
08:53And they all align themselves with this new apostolic terminology.
08:59They're using things like apostolic alignment and apostolic intercessors, apostolic governance.
09:06Again, the Apostolic Governance Committee.
09:09It's kind of a funny thing, but sad at the same time.
09:13The prophetic.
09:14Anything that you can put the word prophetic before and use it in a phrase, it makes money.
09:19Prophetic apostolic reformation, prophetic.
09:22I have the prophetic gift.
09:24I have the prophetic insight.
09:26Whatever it is they use, prophetic.
09:28People will just suddenly go, oh, wow, that's amazing.
09:31Let me give you money.
09:32And that's literally what is happening here.
09:34So she is widely recognized as a prophet.
09:38As I said, she founded the Generals of Intercession, I believe it's called, which is basically the
09:47idea that if you go to one of these interceders, one of these prophetic people, they will intercede
09:55between you and God.
09:56So, again, ignoring all of the heresy that's involved with that, the book of Timothy says
10:04there's only one mediator between God and man, and it's Jesus.
10:08They try to set themselves up as a mediator, and they give it a term, office, because if
10:16you try to humanize the spiritual mumbo jumbo that they're creating, when the minds hear
10:23words that they can identify with, such as office, if you are a, you know, just a average
10:31worker, and your boss is working in the office, that puts them in a tier above you.
10:35So they'll call it the prophetic office.
10:37So they have a office empowered above you.
10:41They literally, it is a pyramid scheme.
10:43They're in an upper tier, and you are in the lower tier.
10:48She's in multiple apostolic networks.
10:51I believe there's one even called the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders.
10:56There are just so many numerous things that she's involved with.
10:59But in the end, it is nothing more than a reincarnation of many of the things that I have covered in
11:07my history.
11:08It just takes a little bit of a twist on it.
11:10The irony in all of this is that it is actually directly linked to the history, and like many
11:18of the different cults that we have examined, the cult following of Cindy Jacobs is no different
11:26than the rest in that if there is history that can be shown as critical, it will be erased.
11:33And so one of the hard problems that I have had in trying to identify this pathway between
11:40Cindy Jacobs and my research is the fact that a lot of the research was actually erased.
11:45But thankfully, if you are familiar with technology, there is a website that is called the Wayback
11:53Machine.
11:54And you can open up the Wayback Machine, and this is, it's a spin on the Sherman and Peabody
12:01cartoons, the Wayback Machine, where they traveled back in time.
12:05Well, this does this, this does this time travel through technology.
12:09And the way it works is it takes snapshots, random snapshots of different websites, and
12:17it just crawls them constantly crawling websites and puts an archive snapshot.
12:22So if you're lucky enough, it will hit a snapshot of one of these cult followings that has been
12:30later erased, and you can go back in time through the Wayback Machine, and you can see where the
12:37Wayback Machine has captured what they have tried to erase.
12:41And if you go to the Wayback Machine, and you look at the General's International website,
12:47there's a page that is all about Mike and Cindy, and Cindy Jacobs, it tells her history, how she's
12:55a prophet, a speaker, a teacher, with the authority to lead all of these people.
13:02But what really struck me is there is a section in the, in this piece that has not yet been erased
13:11way back in time, where she talks about her work in Christ for the Nations.
13:16And in fact, she is on the board of Christ for the Nations.
13:21So for those who are unaware, Christ for the Nations is the institute that developed because
13:27of William Branham's magazine, The Voice of Healing.
13:30When William Branham first began his ministry, and Lateran was breaking forward, breaking out,
13:36William Branham started publishing this magazine, and he had Gordon Lindsay edit the magazine.
13:42It was called The Voice of Healing, and it was a interdenominational publication for
13:49advertising the Branham campaigns.
13:52Branham lost his mind at one point during the height of the campaigns.
13:57Gordon Lindsay took over the publication, and he turned it into kind of like what she's
14:03calling here, generals.
14:05He was publishing the names and the ministries of several different ministers and creating what
14:12basically ended up to be hero worship.
14:15So as he started to create this and people started organizing their campaigns within this
14:21ministry, this became known as The Voice of Healing conventions, The Voice of Healing revivals.
14:28The men and women who got involved with this, they all started to explode and expand their ministries,
14:36and many ministries spread off of those.
14:39So it created basically the framework that you could say was the early foundation for the
14:45apostolic networks within the new apostolic reformation.
14:49So after William Branham died, The Voice of Healing publication, it turned into the worldwide revival.
14:56In fact, for a period of time, The Voice of Healing was named worldwide revival.
15:01And eventually, after William Branham and Gordon Lindsay tried to turn it into a denomination
15:08before Branham died, they started holding deliverance seminars teaching other people how to become
15:15wizards, grand wizards in this scheme of wizardry, whatever this thing is that they call deliverance
15:22ministries.
15:24And there are many numerous cults that have spun off of that.
15:27So what we're talking about, really, it goes beyond even a general's or a hero worship
15:34foundation.
15:35It's literally a cult generator.
15:37A ministry will create a cult following, and it may not be harmful at first, but over time,
15:44it develops into a destructive cult.
15:46And from that, people break away from that cult, and they create their own cults.
15:51They may be somewhat benign.
15:53Maybe they broke away because it was destructive, but they're still using the same patterns.
15:58They're using the same framework of worship.
16:01And what happens is, without the guardrails of keeping your ministry grounded in Scripture,
16:09they come up with their new ideas, new revelations, and then it becomes destructive again, and another
16:14group breaks off.
16:16So it's literally the spiderweb of thousands of apostolic networks that are spinning off new
16:22and unusual cults.
16:25Well, anyway, in this General's International publication or website that was captured,
16:31it says that Cindy Jacobs sits on the Executive Council for Empowered 21 and is an advisor to
16:40the boards of Christ for the Nations Institute and Oral Roberts University.
16:46So Cindy joined the board of directors of Wagner University and HIM, along with Apostle Cheon.
16:55So Cindy Jacobs is part of this network, but she is a ranking member at a very high level in this
17:03network. She is on the board of directors of the organization that was literally created by
17:09William Branham. So if you're watching this live on YouTube, or if you're reading through the comment
17:14feeds while you're watching it, this is the point that you start to see the critics of the research
17:20begin to say things like, this is guilt by association.
17:23You can't do this. The one that is my favorite, they say something to the effect,
17:29all trails don't lead back through Branham, John. And so they try to throw this guilt by association
17:35card. But if you understand the history, and you understand the difference between what William
17:41Branham created, William Branham and Gordon Lindsay, and what is biblical Christianity, if you look between
17:50those in the variants, you're going to find all of these movements, you're going to find what they're
17:55doing, how they're doing it, all of the money, how they're making the money, all of the different
18:01schemes that they use. It's all within that variance. But and it sits literally between Branham and Lindsay,
18:07which is Christ for the Nations, which Cindy Jacobs was on the board of, and biblical Christianity.
18:14So let's break this down a little bit further. And I have to unfortunately make a few people
18:20upset as well, because I have to get into politics just a bit. There is a problem that exists within
18:28all of this network of movements that when William Branham and Gordon Lindsay started what they did,
18:36it was built on the heels of Christian identity, which was a strange combination of British Israelism,
18:43of white supremacy, and of politics. These were merging into religion and being packaged and branded
18:52as Christianity. So if you are against talking about politics, you literally can't talk about the
18:59history of these movements because they wanted it to be politics. So in today's world, Cindy Jacobs,
19:06she is one of the most powerful figures in the new apostolic reformation that was pushing the notion
19:14that Trump was chosen by God, President Trump, and that his election was divinely orchestrated,
19:21and that he would usher in a prophetic turnaround, and that America was entering into a new prophetic
19:28era that was aligned with President Trump. So all of politics aside, I'm not a fan of Trump or Biden
19:38during that phase of the presidential election. I'm not really on either side, I really could care less.
19:45What I do care about is the history between what William Branham and Gordon Lindsay created and how it
19:53merged and grew and developed into what we see today. So as Jacobs was pushing these ideas that Trump was
20:02this divine figure, she began to affirm that association with prophetic insights or what she claimed to be
20:12prophetic insights. But she did it in such a way that was pushing for grabbing more votes for Trump.
20:21So she, in effect, was creating what would be almost considered a self-fulfilling prophecy,
20:27because she was pushing all of these networks to accept the idea that Trump was the chosen one,
20:33and therefore, you should vote for Trump. So she launched and led different prayer groups campaigning
20:39for President Trump. Some of the names, if I remember them correctly, the Reformation Prayer Network,
20:47we've talked about the Generals International, the Apostolic Council of Prophetic Elders.
20:53All of these different groups that she was partnering with or helping to lead created this
21:00appeal to heaven. So all of these people who gathered in these conventions to listen to this
21:06were listening to how Trump was an appeal to heaven. And they started to integrate in their minds,
21:12the associated Trump with their religion. And the reason I'm bringing this up is because it
21:19is very, very similar to what we see happening during the years that Gordon Lindsay and William Branham
21:24created the foundation for all of this. And again, Cindy Jacobs is on the board that existed from that
21:32foundation. She was on the board at Christ for the Nations. So as she continued to develop this network and
21:40started pushing the idea, the prophecies started to include numerologies. And here's where it gets a
21:48little bit funny and odd at the same time. She started to say that we're entering into a new era,
21:57that Trump is going to be divinely appointed by God, and that through divine intercession or prophetic
22:05networks, she had determined that the year 5777 in the Hebrew calendar was a prophetic breakthrough
22:15tied to the administration of President Trump. So to everybody who's on the outside hearing this,
22:21they think, well, that doesn't make any sense. What does 5777 have to do with President Trump at all?
22:29It doesn't make any sense. When I saw this number, instantly, I knew it because I grew up in this
22:36mindset. So if you're in the mindset, you can kind of understand it. If you're outside of the mindset,
22:43it's very difficult. But you have to think of 5777, not as a Hebrew year or not even as 5777.
22:55You have to think of it in the way that the gimmick has been pushed to the people.
23:01To understand the real meaning that Jacobs was trying to push with this number, you actually
23:07have to take 5777 and split it apart. Because in the Lateran movement and everything that developed
23:15from it, the number five meant grace. That was widely taught because the letters in grace,
23:24there are five of them. That literally is what this means. And William Branham, when he was teaching
23:29this, he would literally say grace, G-R-A-C-E, five. Five is grace. And people adopted this widespread.
23:39It was something that many numerology charts began to exist. And this was a Lateran teaching,
23:46but Branham was not the only one who did it.
23:48You can go to, what's the name, E.W. Bollinger, I think it is, Ivan Panin. There are different
23:57men and women who took basic numbers and tried to associate them with meanings.
24:03So that they would say, you know, by the 1940s, five equaling grace was widely taught throughout the
24:09Lateran movement. The Voice of Healing revivals, the Lateran revivals, anything led by Branham,
24:16Bosworth, Gordon Lindsay, or Arne Baxter, were all teaching this five meaning grace.
24:22And they would build upon this, you would have the five wise versions, and you would have the five
24:29loaves, and you'd have the five wounds of Christ, the fivefold ministry, anything that they could put
24:35five to, they would say that this is graceful. And things like the fivefold ministry, which they
24:42built as a authoritarian structure, they were pushing the notion that it was graceful,
24:47while at the same time, it was authoritarian. The number seven meant completion. And that was
24:54standard Lateran teaching. There were seven church ages, seven seals, seven trumpets, seven steps into
25:01perfection, seven feast days. There are sevenfold spirit, I think was one of the doctrines.
25:08Some of this to some extent is biblical, because in the Bible, there were the seven seals of revelation,
25:14the seven trumpets, but they took it beyond this to say that if you could identify that number seven
25:21in something, and even in a number that has no relationship to the number seven, like five, seven,
25:29seven, seven is actually 577. They would strip the sevens out and say, well, that means completion,
25:38I have a completion number within that number. But then also, you look at the sets of sevens,
25:45there are three, and three in the movement meant perfection, or divine perfection. They would say
25:51that basically, the three is God's completeness. So when you look at the number five, seven, seven,
25:58seven, although it is a number that was being referenced by the Hebrew calendar for another
26:04reason, which I'll give them in a few minutes, the Lateran movement interpretation of this number
26:09meant that it was something even greater than this. And that is something that was taught,
26:15again, through Branham, Gordon, Lindsay, in the organization that Cindy Jacob was on the board
26:20of directors for. So here's where it gets just a little bit weird. I feel like I'm doing a weird
26:27doctrines episode with James. This is, this is something that if you're on the outside looking in,
26:32this is just also crazy. But the way that this was pushed, the way that this year 5777 was pushed to
26:40the people, was that not only did it have all of these supernatural meanings, the fives, the sevens,
26:48the three sevens, it was, according to Jacobs, associated to the Hebrew calendar, because the
26:56Hebrew calendar for the year 5777 corresponds to 2016 to 2017 on the Gregorian calendar. So what she's
27:07trying to say is, we have this supernatural year, and it just happens to fall on the same year that
27:13President Trump or President-elect Trump is running, candidate Trump is running for office. So none of
27:21this really relates unless you take it into the prophetic realm. So to the people who are listening,
27:27they can't comprehend all of this. They're trying to figure out in their head all of the math. And
27:31what does all of this math mean? How can I say this math means Trump? Well, if you find somebody who
27:37can claim that prophetically it's linked to Trump, now you can take it outside of their realm of
27:43thinking into something that they can't think about. And that's literally what she did. So she
27:49started pushing the idea that 5777 was the Hebrew year that meant grace, completion, all of these
27:57different things, and that it was the Jubilee year. And to those who are unfamiliar with the concept
28:03of Jubilee, in the Bible, Jubilee was a every 50 years event. So after a seven cycles of seven years,
28:12seven times seven equals 49, the 50th year was declared Jubilee. And you can find that in,
28:18I think it's Leviticus 25. It was a year of release and restoration. And to all the tithe payers,
28:25it gets a little bit interesting because the tithe was given to the priest throughout the years until
28:31the Jubilee year. And there are passages in the Bible that talk about after the celebration,
28:38the priest gave everything back except for what he required to live on for the rest of his days.
28:43So it was a, it was a year that was celebration, not only for the priest, but also for the people.
28:49And the slaves or the servants were freed in the Jubilee year, the ancestor ancestral land was
28:56returned to the people. The, if I remember correctly, the debts were effectively canceled.
29:03So this was a time that everybody could rest, relax, all of their debts were paid. And then they,
29:10you know, they, the land could not be plowed or harvested. They lived off of the,
29:15all off of the stored up food that they had worked and labored to store during the years leading up to
29:22the Jubilee. So literally this was a year of party, if you really understand it. And again,
29:28it happened every 50 years. So you can do the math on the 50 and you can see that the 5777 doesn't
29:37even really work out. If you understand how the Jubilees worked,
29:41but Jacobs and many other NAR profits began to say, this is the Jubilee year. Trump is going to
29:48lead us into the celebration. He is our Jubilee. Trump is the Jubilee. That's literally what was
29:55being pushed. And again, the math, if you just simple, take a calculator and you can see that
30:00this doesn't really, the math doesn't work out. But again, what they did was they took the numbers out
30:06of the count to just grab the sevens. They grabbed the sevens and said, this is our year of completion.
30:13This is Jubilee. Now, again, it doesn't match Judaism. It doesn't match the Bible. But if you
30:22transition your thinking all the way back to British Israelism, it does somewhat match the
30:28British Israel theory and doctrines because they were doing the same exact things in British
30:33Israelism with regards to months and years and numbers and all kinds of weird things,
30:39trying to predict the end of days. And again, for those who are unaware, British Israelism
30:46is the idea that the United States and Canada and the UK are part of the law, the historical lineage
30:55tied to the lost 10 tribes of Israel. And so we are the Jews. We are the ones for which this
31:01Jubilee is supposed to be happening. We're the ones that whenever the Bible is talking about all of the
31:07blessings given to Israel, we're supposed to be those who are blessed. They were applying all of the
31:13biblical passages to Israel to the modern modern day Christians under that framework. So the year of
31:21the Jubilee fits if you try to make yourself a Jew, which is what British Israelism was doing. And again,
31:28this is the same network of apostolic and NAR developments that came from British Israelism through
31:37Branham, through Lindsay, F.F. Bosworth and others. They're teaching them this British Israel
31:42doctrine where they can look at numbers and try to make this association. Have you ever wondered how
31:48the Pentecostal movement started or how the progression of modern Pentecostalism transitioned
31:53through the latter reign, charismatic and other fringe movements into the new apostolic reformation?
32:00You can learn this and more on William Branham Historical Research's website,
32:04william-branham.org. On the books page of the website, you can find the compiled research of
32:11John Collins, Charles Paisley, Stephen Montgomery, John McKinnon, and others, with links to the paper,
32:18audio, and digital versions of each book. You can also find resources and documentation on various
32:25people and topics related to those movements. If you want to contribute to the cause, you can support
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32:37to the audio or video version that you're listening to or watching. On behalf of William Branham
32:42Historical Research, we want to thank you for your support. I mentioned at the beginning that what
32:48we're seeing with Cindy Jacobs and others in this new apostolic reformation today came from the developed
32:56framework that Gordon Lindsay and William Branham established. And I want to dive just a little
33:01bit deeper on that because that's quite a big statement. And I think people, if they really knew
33:07the history and saw the significance of it, I think people would just run screaming from this entire
33:12movement today. But the sad truth is they didn't run screaming whenever they did the same exact things
33:19back in during the latter rain movement. And in fact, all the way to the abuse of the year. This is the
33:28kind of thing that they did early in the latter rain movement, not later early, it was literally the
33:33foundation from which all of this developed. In 1948, whenever the voice of healing was first beginning to be
33:43established, Gordon Lindsay started publishing a column that he called the World in Prophecy, I believe
33:51is what he called it. There are different names and different articles tying to the same theme. But
33:56essentially, it was the idea that we are seeing in those in the years of yesteryear, they were seeing
34:05the fulfillment of biblical prophecy, they would use that phrase biblical prophecy, seeing it fulfilled
34:13today. And readers would look at it, and they would compare the Bible quotes that they gave, or the
34:18timelines that they gave, the mathematics that they used, and see a modern event. And oh my gosh, I see
34:25the modern event, so it must be happening. And these guys must understand this much better than me. But
34:30they were literally taking so many things out of context and running random numbers that aren't even
34:37associated with each other. All to say that Christians today are somehow bound to the calendars of the
34:46celebrations, the religious ceremonies, and the religious ordinance ordinations that the that was
34:53established for the ancient Jews. And we're in Christianity today. So how does that even fit? If
35:01you're on the outside looking in, you're thinking that doesn't make any sense. How does that even fit?
35:05Well, the way that it works is if you can confuse the people enough and make them think that you're
35:12confident while you're confusing them, their brain will literally disconnect to assume that you know
35:18what you're talking about. And that is the gimmick. It's the con, right? That's what they're doing.
35:25And so if you look through those articles, the year in prophecy, you'll start to see many things that
35:31are similar to what they're doing today. And all based in fear, they were looking at the rise of
35:39the red terror. They were looking at the, the rise of the two irreconcilable ideologies, democracy in
35:47the West and communism in the East, much like today, they're looking at two ideologies between the
35:53Democrats and the Republicans. It's the same language. It's just a different framing of that same language.
36:00And they would draw a clear line in the sand. You're either anti-God or you're anti-Christ,
36:05or you're with us. You're either with us or against us. That was the cult mindset.
36:10So what it did was it portrayed Russia, the USSR as a murderous, godless system that can never be,
36:20can never be reconciled to God. But it did so by identifying Russia as Gog,
36:26mentioned in Ezekiel 38 and 39, the Northern power that would invade Israel at the end time.
36:34So they took a passage from the Old Testament from that it was applying to the ancient Israel.
36:41And then they take two modern events and just plug them in like, like they can be plugged into
36:45something that happened thousands of years ago. But the way they did that was,
36:50they said that this is a prophetic scripture and redirected the focus of the actual prophecy that
36:57was mentioned in Ezekiel to modern times. So what this did was, like I said, it created an
37:04us versus them mentality, but it changed things so that it wasn't just simply politics anymore.
37:13Anything that was against this, their framework of politics, anything was against it was also against
37:20God, because they're framing the politics, and the religion and the Christian system, Christian system,
37:27or pseudo Christian system, it's all bundled in the same package. Because politics is bundled in with
37:34this, anything that is against your politics is, is anti God anti Christ, that was what they're trying
37:40to establish. And it creates a moral dualism, you either have a either have a system that is aligned
37:48with your way of thinking your belief in politics, or everybody else who doesn't, they're doomed,
37:55they're, they're part of the demonic system. And so you have a godly system and a demonic system.
38:02And this opened the door when they did this to all of this so called spiritual warfare, you could
38:09label anybody who was against your politics as part of the demonic system. And so when people were
38:15running against their preferred candidate, they would say, Well, that's of the demonic system,
38:19don't vote for that guy. And they could sway actually sway the votes of large numbers of people.
38:26So this was a very, if you think of American politics, and you think of the way that our vote
38:32is by the people, well, now they've taken it kind of outside of the realm of the people,
38:38it's now being persuaded by elitism in Christianity, or pseudo Christianity. And the actual vote doesn't
38:48go to the people, it goes to the leaders in the movement who have the prophetic insight,
38:53like Cindy Jacobs, like Branham, like Gordon Lindsay. Also in 1948, which was significant,
38:59was the establishment of the Jewish state, which for a person who has been indoctrinated with British
39:06Israelism in that era, having been told that the end of days is coming, because we're seeing all of
39:13these political things happening, that we're tying to very destructive prophecies of the Old Testament,
39:21or we're tying to the end of days prophecies, the book of Revelation, we're starting to see all of
39:28these things fulfilled, or so we say, and then suddenly, there's a Jewish state. So it just
39:34literally set everything ablaze. And if you look at the latter rain movement, Branham and Franklin Hall
39:41were catalysts for that movement, exploding into what it did. But few of the historians mentioned that
39:49it was actually the formation of Israel that was the big explosion. Branham was a catalyst, yes,
39:55Gordon Franklin Hall was also a catalyst, they were spreading the doctrine. But the doctrine that
40:00they were spreading was an end of days, British Israel type of eschatology. And whenever all of the
40:09people started to believe this thing, and then suddenly the Jewish state is formed, oh my gosh,
40:13everything that they said must be true, the end of the world is coming, let's, let's have a revival.
40:19That's literally what happened. So if you understand that pattern, and then you go back and look at the
40:25charts and graphs that Gordon Lindsay is pushing, he's using the same scheme of throwing numbers out
40:33there that are tied to ancient Judaic systems that are for a calendar we don't even use for systems that
40:42were literally overturned whenever Christ entered the Christians into the new covenant. Now we're
40:49trying to bring them out of the new covenant and back into the ancient Jewish worship, which is
40:56really odd if you think about that and understand Christianity. If you understand the history leading
41:02up to the latter rain movement, and then understand the charts that are being given, and all of the
41:09the doctrines that are being pushed by Branham and others surrounding those charts, you begin to notice
41:16that in the years prior to the latter rain movement, they were very clearly doing the same thing.
41:23There's a section in a few of the charts, I can't remember exactly which ones, but Gordon Lindsay talks
41:29about a era that was established when the new deal began. So this was back during the new deal referred to
41:38legislation that was being pushed by Franklin Delano Roosevelt that so many in the Christian identity
41:45movement were against. So he defined that as an era and a milestone that was leading to this end of days.
41:52So in doing this, he's literally saying that he identifies with the Christian identity
41:58side of the debate, that this entered us into this bad era, this bad period of time. And now we're
42:05coming in to suggest that the end of that era is coming, which means if you understand the
42:12eschatology, they're saying literally, this next era is going to lead us into the era of the new
42:18millennium, or the, the time in which the end of the world has come, and we're to take over.
42:24It's literally what we see today. You have so many people who are in this type of movement,
42:31who are saying that our politics, our political leaders did not get elected. The other side won,
42:38and we have been in this bad era. Now the good era is coming. We have the savior who's coming to take
42:44over. He's going to take over the politics, drive out everybody who disagrees with our politics,
42:50and we will, we will win this supernatural battle we're fighting. They've taken politics and put it
42:56into the supernatural realm. And that's, that's the same thing that they were, they were doing with
43:01Roosevelt and everybody after him leading up to today, President Trump. So this is, this is a pattern
43:09of something that is absolutely nothing new, but it is something that Lindsay and Branham were able to
43:17make more popular. All of this existed long before Branham and Lindsay, but because it was embedded
43:25into the latter rain revival and the latter rain revival influenced so many aspects of American
43:32Christianity, it was influencing them with the idea that we can do these vain numerologies, or we can
43:40embed our politics in our religion and fight the spiritual battle, fight our political battles in the
43:45spiritual realm. And really when it comes down, what it comes down to is we can convince a lot of people
43:53to vote the way that we want them to vote because we can manipulate the crowds through religion. That's
43:59literally what was happening here. So fast forward through time in the, in the pseudo way back machine
44:05that we've created in this podcast, Gordon Lindsay and William Branham have established this network.
44:11They have created this voice of healing magazine, which exploded into the voice of healing conventions,
44:19the voice of healing movement, which eventually after Branham died, became Christ for the nations,
44:24that whole institute that they had established this whole network that they established.
44:30The end result was Christ for the nation school. So fast forward to today's world in the year,
44:362018 voice of healing published in their, the voice magazine, spring of 2018, Christ for the nations
44:45published this article celebrating their 70 years. And one of the people who celebrated with them
44:53was Cindy Jacobs, who again was on the board of directors. She said that Christ for the nations
44:59is one of the most extraordinary Bible schools that I know in the world. There are a number of reasons
45:05that I feel that way. One is that they believe in the power of the Holy Spirit. One encounters God on
45:11powerful levels while attending the school. Another is relationships. People that attend make friends
45:17for life. In fact, the ones that you make are always there when you need them. Yet another is the deep
45:23character development. However, this is not to say that one doesn't also have fun when you're a student.
45:30The last, but one of the best is the love for the lost and the nations that you gain. Christ for the
45:37nations truly embodies its name. So I began this with all of the weird nonsense talking about the year
45:45five, seven, seven, seven, and mentioned how just because seven was embedded in that sequence of numbers,
45:52it became supernatural to this way of thinking. Well, think about the title of the magazine and
46:00the year that they chose to do it, 70 powerful years of ministering God's word. It's the seven
46:06that really matters if you understand this way of thinking in this logic. But the year 2018 was also
46:15significant for other reasons as it related to Cindy Jacobs. For Jacobs, 2018 was the year five, seven,
46:23seven, eight, the year of the gate. So, and I'm laughing because we used to do nonsensical things like
46:32this too. You're thinking of basic elementary level associations. Five equals grace because
46:41in the English alphabet, G-R-A-C-E, it spells grace. We never stopped to think that in Hebrew,
46:50it didn't have five letters, but that's the way that we were taught to think. Very basic because
46:57if you want to manipulate somebody, take something that's right in front of their face and show them
47:03that it means more than they think it does. And then suddenly you're spiritual and they're not.
47:08That's literally how this works. It's, it's a gimmick. It's a, it's a con, but so for Cindy Jacobs,
47:152018 was the year of the gate because it rhymed with five, seven, seven, eight,
47:22but it's also a numerology, numerological hinge. What she tried to say was that this was the,
47:31what did she say? This was the year to possess the gates of your future.
47:36So if you understand fortune telling, and you think of the crystal ball,
47:40she's gathering all of these people around to look into the crystal ball so that you can possess
47:45the future that that ball is showing you. And what Jacobs did, if you really understand it,
47:52she took the frame, the doctrinal framework of combining religion and politics that Gordon,
47:58Lindsay and Branham had on the national level. And she took it to an international level.
48:03She brought in ideas such as the Isaiah 19 highway. She said, another, I'm reading verbatim.
48:09Another word that God gave us is about the Isaiah 19 highway. You may not be familiar with that,
48:17but it's talked about in Isaiah, the 19th chapter. And it's really interesting the way that she phrases
48:23that another word that God gave us. It makes it sound like God gave her something special regarding
48:30this highway. But what she is saying and, and, and not saying at the same time is God gave us the
48:37Bible. And the Bible has a highway in Isaiah 19. But what she's trying to say is that the prophecy
48:46given to Isaiah in the ancient world for ancient Israel was not for ancient Israel. It was for
48:53modern Israel, or in other words, us today as Christians, she's literally following the British
49:00Israel framework, the British Israel way of thinking and taking passages that weren't intended for us
49:07in the way that it's being used for us in her, in this doctrinal framework, and saying they apply to
49:14modern events. So anything that is surrounding the politics regarding, she's mentioning directly
49:20from Egypt to Assyria, anything that's involving politics regarding policy for those nations can now
49:27be attributed to this prophecy from Isaiah. Even though Isaiah, his prophecy had nothing to do with
49:34American politics or global politics for the year 2018. But that is the way that the system works.
49:42And that's the way the system has worked long before Branham or Gordon Lindsay got involved.
49:48But especially after Branham and Gordon Lindsay got involved in spinning off all of these apostolic
49:54networks through the voice of healing convention movements and the latter rain revivals.
50:00Whenever all of this was being birthed and politics was being embedded into American Christianity,
50:06it was being embedded with prophetic themes and the way that they would twist ancient Bible prophecy
50:14that was for ancient Israel and twist it into modern events through British Israelism.
50:21It was something that I'd never really fully understood when I was in the movement. And then after I left,
50:27I can't believe that I even fell for some of this stuff. I was listening to recorded sermons that was
50:34talking about President Kennedy and how Kennedy was fulfilling. Kennedy was the Ahab of our day.
50:42And Jacqueline Kennedy was the Jezebel for the day. And we needed prophets to storm the gates because we
50:49need to kick Jezebel out of the White House. That was the type of mentality that I grew up with.
50:57And I'm growing up listening to recordings and reading literature about these prophetic movements
51:04long after those events. Kennedy, you know, Kennedy was assassinated in the 60s. I'm reading these
51:10things in the year 2000 and beyond. And I'm reading it because it is part of this prophetic framework that
51:17was established. And when I say prophetic, I'm saying it very loosely, because it's not really prophetic so
51:23much as it is religious propaganda to sway politics. Everybody during that era, whenever
51:30they're listening to all of the ministers, not just Branham, but many of them saying that we now
51:36have Jezebel in the White House. Read this passage from the Old Testament. Can't we see that this is
51:41evil today? It's being fulfilled right before our very eyes. Well, a unsuspecting crowd of people would
51:49start to vote the other direction because no, they don't want evil in the White House. Nobody wants
51:54evil in the White House. And so everybody starts to go a different direction. And the leaders who are
52:00in these movements that have wide recognition, such as Cindy Jacobs, they have the power to sway
52:08masses of votes. So there's a reason why politics gets involved. If you think about the hierarchy
52:15from the bottom up, all of the people who are voting, who are being swayed by those votes,
52:21think of them as assets. And think of the organizations that would love to get their fingers
52:26on those assets. So let's dump tons of money into these ministries, because if we do, they'll vote
52:32in our favor against the other guy. And so from the bottom up, it's evil. From the top down, it's evil.
52:39And there in the very middle are these apostolic people, these people claiming to be apostles and
52:45prophets. And they have the power to both sway political vote and gain the fortunes that can be
52:53invested in them to sway those votes. So it's all a system that goes far beyond what you even
52:59fully understand. That's why at the beginning, I said, you know, it's not really that they I don't
53:06think they even believe that they're fortune tellers. And it's not even that they're really
53:10doing fortune telling it is a con. But there's a reason why they're doing it. And is the system evil?
53:17Absolutely, it's evil. Is it evil in the way that they're thinking spiritual warfare is evil?
53:23I don't really see it that way. I just see it as a bunch of people who are manipulating
53:28the masses for sums of money. That's really what I see. When I look at the world today,
53:34and I see all of this chaos that is happening because of politics, and I'm not talking one
53:40side, one party or the other, on both sides of the aisle, there are problems. And then I think back to
53:47all of this network of ministers, evangelists, apostles, prophets, all of these people who had
53:55the ears of the Christians in the nation, who literally could have made a positive change,
54:01who could have caused people to vote in such a way that did not elect people who wanted chaos,
54:08who wanted to establish thrones and kingdoms and overthrow governments.
54:14When I look at the people who could have made a difference, and I see them taking the money
54:21position. That's how I see it. It's my opinion. That's how I see Jacobs. It's a money position.
54:27If you go down this pathway, you can have a lot of money, you can have a lot of backing,
54:32you're not going to be doing a little podcast for just a handful of people, you're going to speak
54:37to the masses, and we will fund your ministry. That's the type of mentality that these people
54:43have accepted. And that's, that's literally what has created this whole mess. It's because
54:49they're not really trying to bring people to a better good. What they're trying to do is weaponize
54:56the religion for the sake of politics. And in doing so have created such a mess,
55:02that if you look at the world around, it's, it's, in my opinion, it's far worse than it was before her
55:08prophecies of the gates or whatever, these things that she's saying, it has gotten progressively worse.
55:15And it's gotten worse. Yet, while the things that she says she predicted are coming to pass in the
55:22way that she said that they were predicted as a movement for God. So you look at this and you see,
55:28well, is, is this really God? Is God creating all of this chaos? And I have to think, no, that's not
55:35what this is. This is entirely something else. But there are people who are manipulating the system for
55:42the sake of money, power, sex, or other, other things. It's not a movement by God. So, so much
55:50more I can say to that effect. And I'll stop there because I don't want to be censored. So if you've
55:57enjoyed our show and you want more information, you can check us out on the web. You can find us at
56:01william-branham.org. For more about the dark side of the new apostolic reformation,
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