Aly _ AJ_ Disney _ Dating Disasters (Full Episode)

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00:00:02what is up daddy gang it is your founding father alex cooper with call her daddy

00:00:11ali and aj welcome to call her daddy thank you you guys the last time we saw each other was

00:00:16we were hanging out backstage at my tour and you were the loveliest people and i always have these

00:00:23moments because i'm like i watched you guys growing up obviously i love you guys your music

00:00:27all of it but meeting you guys in person was so fun to be like oh my god you guys

00:00:32are like normal

00:00:33girls and we're all just hanging out so i'm so happy we're finally doing the same same so happy

00:00:38to be here to be yeah so happy to be here okay if you guys are not like touring if

00:00:43you're not working

00:00:44if you don't have all the chaos of your life what is your most fun thing that you guys usually

00:00:48like

00:00:48to do together we're big like spa people and we kind of have been since we were young like we

00:00:54were

00:00:54like hanging out in a spa at like 10 and 12 and we were just loving it and our parents

00:00:58would be

00:00:58like i don't know they just like love hot dry saunas and getting massages oh i love this for

00:01:03you so like she can't so spa spa you go into the spa if you have a day off you're

00:01:07going to the spa

00:01:08together that's our number one that's our number one that or like i mean literally it's like a movie

00:01:12like just on aj's couch just like ordering in yeah how like often do you guys hang out all the

00:01:19time

00:01:19yeah all the time like every day well no because now that she's a mom so now that she's a

00:01:25mom it's

00:01:26not every day and also we don't live down the street from each other we literally used to live

00:01:30i'm not even kidding you like me in my car minutes from each driving to aj's four minutes i could

00:01:35walk

00:01:35to her house in like 20 we how far now now i'm like an hour and a half what yeah

00:01:41i know what happened

00:01:41yeah well i had a kid yeah she's like bye bye aj well like really we moved for like to

00:01:48be closer

00:01:48to my mom my mom lives out in san yanez so we were like okay if we're closer to her

00:01:52that will help with

00:01:53you know just like yeah child care or whatever of course and then having more space because the house

00:01:59that we live in in that we lived in in the canyon that we ended up renting out is like

00:02:03a super cool pad

00:02:04but it's more like it's for a couple it's not really for a kid so we we ended up renting

00:02:10a place

00:02:10that just had more space like so we kind of were just like we'll see but we still it's only

00:02:15an hour

00:02:16and a half like it's not that far every weekend but would you ever move i love santa barbara okay

00:02:21you're happy in santa barbara i'd move there in a second okay okay okay that makes me feel good i

00:02:25really would i'm not ready yet i really love where i am yeah but i think down the road i

00:02:29would i absolutely

00:02:30would and i think it's a beautiful place to raise a son do you guys play the typical like older

00:02:34younger

00:02:35sister roles do you feel like or is there anything that you're like i don't act like a younger sister

00:02:39and older sister in this way i think they were swapped when we were younger oh really yeah that's

00:02:43kind of younger sister and she was like older sister and then it switched like we always joke

00:02:47how when i was young i was very shy and really shy and i would have her just kind of

00:02:53you were like my

00:02:54translator yes she would like nudge me it's like and i'd be like she wants a turkey sub no um

00:02:59cheese

00:02:59and no mustard no mustard you know whatever and it was like literally i would speak for her she like

00:03:03knew it was very strange oh my god you got out of that though i got out of it and

00:03:08then i think it's

00:03:08swapped to being like okay now you don't translate for me but yeah no no you're like girl you never

00:03:13did never but i think what's interesting is like obviously you guys then like at a pretty young age

00:03:18got into the spotlight so like you don't think that a kid would be shy that then gets into like

00:03:24this industry when disney entered the conversation were your parents at all like this is like too much

00:03:31they ever try to talk you guys out of it no at that point we were fully in like a

00:03:35sad card in hand

00:03:36doing commercials well not you me not me because i got my first gig was still the future yeah yeah

00:03:42so like i didn't even have like i i mean i knew the basics of like this is a mark

00:03:47and stuff but i

00:03:48learned like everything on that set oh my god wait your first gig was filled the future yeah that was

00:03:52like that's like kind of the biggest fuck ever wait what that's funny yeah when you guys like i

00:03:58obviously was thinking before i like sat down with you i'm like when you look back at that era

00:04:01you think about like you think about you guys you think about demi you think about miley you think

00:04:06about selena you think about the jonas brothers like when you were in the era that you were in

00:04:10because it shaped so much of our childhood i feel like did you guys realize it was that iconic in

00:04:16the

00:04:16moment or did it literally just feel like work i think once cowbells hit we knew yeah and i feel

00:04:22like

00:04:23when the music started happening on the channel and that was happening simultaneously with phil

00:04:29i think that's when we were like oh this is really like clicking with people and i do remember

00:04:33going to i i don't know i think were we with hollywood records at the time i don't know i

00:04:39don't

00:04:39think so well i think they signed a season two of the show it was season two but i think

00:04:43season one

00:04:44of phil the future had been out so no we weren't signed yet with hollywood but for whatever reason

00:04:48we were invited to hillary duff's concert at i think the forum or something oh yeah and i think you

00:04:54were with me yeah and like i got mobbed at this concert and i was like yeah because season one

00:04:59it aired it was weird it was like the first real time i remember being like oh like people know

00:05:05me

00:05:05from this show and then it was just you know after that it was still very we had a very

00:05:10normal life but

00:05:11i just remember being like oh people are stopping me because of this tv show oh my god f hillary

00:05:15duff

00:05:15concert like take me back oh my god because i was gonna ask like how your life changed with phil

00:05:22the

00:05:22future because i feel like that was a very very very big moment and i feel like some shows popped

00:05:27some shows didn't that one i like feel like i watched every freaking episode and it was so good

00:05:32thank you um it did pop but like we only did two seasons which people kind of forget what yes

00:05:38that's

00:05:38it that's it i know it's a travesty and then it got canceled wait but how many episodes were in

00:05:42a

00:05:42season 22 i think okay that's also so different like these days it's like sure episodes yeah yeah

00:05:47that's a good point yeah okay but 20 still a lot of episodes yeah so it's only two daddy gang

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00:08:00it's not sweet it's not oh my god i did so many you don't have to tone it down with

00:08:03water like

00:08:04gatorade the mango is my oh in college when i would play soccer i would have to literally dilute it

00:08:09and

00:08:09i would do like half gatorade half water yeah my favorite currently is the mango that you're

00:08:13currently holding and this one is what orange habiscus oh that is good it's good right i think

00:08:18i think the mango is maybe the mango is the best my favorite it's my favorite currently this is

00:08:23orange habiscus i like the mango yeah it's great um okay so back to because i was thank you so

00:08:27much

00:08:27because i was thinking about you guys and like now that i'm like a businesswoman and obviously like

00:08:32you guys can share what you want but i was thinking about you guys and i'm like you were so

00:08:36young and

00:08:37you guys looked like you're at the top of the world but like when you look back financially did you

00:08:42feel

00:08:43like as kids you were compensated correctly i don't know if that's like a fair thing to say

00:08:48um i don't think we would have known anything to compare it to yeah i don't think it's crazy when

00:08:55you have a job that young of course and in a strange way like any money that you're making

00:08:59of course seems like great but like i made like seven thousand dollars right per episode on yeah

00:09:04that's not good that ain't nothing like do you know what i mean yeah that is interesting like

00:09:08because when you don't know what that would equate to today but like true right but i guess for a

00:09:13kids show you're kind of like that's great that could go into their college fund like and how did

00:09:17you guys handle it with your parents because obviously i remember we were standing in the hallway of

00:09:22my tour and i looked at you guys and i was like how did you guys just stay so normal

00:09:26and you guys

00:09:27are like so lovely i feel like you guys are like my girlfriends from back home and the unfortunate

00:09:32side of the industry i feel like we've all seen is like so many of these kids whether it was

00:09:36like

00:09:36the parents were abusing the power and taking money the parents were forcing the kids we saw it all the

00:09:41time the parents didn't help the kids so they were just kind of by themselves on set like they're

00:09:45just like dropped off and left with the teacher right yeah what attributed to you guys staying so

00:09:50grounded throughout this whole process well i can tell you we weren't the boss of our household

00:09:54that's for sure like just because we were working did not put us at the top like we were the

00:09:58kids

00:09:58yeah um and then second like our parents were very very clear about like yeah you can go to this

00:10:06event

00:10:06you can promote this project but like you're not going to go to like some late after party with a

00:10:11bunch of adults when you guys are underage like i just feel like when you're younger you can kind of

00:10:16get away if you're in the industry but just rolling into every situation yes and you're like

00:10:20a little mini adult even though you really shouldn't be it's not really the time and place for that time

00:10:24in your life like you just shouldn't be at those kind of things at that age like a you know

00:10:28what i

00:10:28mean yeah i feel like our parents were very they were pretty strict and and like our mom was on

00:10:33set

00:10:34with us like amazing if she needed to be somewhere for you and i was like on set she would

00:10:40be gone to

00:10:41like get you to the audition and then would be like straight back on set you know that i feel

00:10:46like

00:10:46that's like the biggest key that when kids come out now it's like there's this like missing element

00:10:51which was kind of like the parental figures yes and like to give the parental opportunity to people

00:10:57that weren't the actual parents totally they are just looking at these kids like they're cash cows and

00:11:02really your own parent hopefully would be the one to be like no no i need to have some guidelines

00:11:05for

00:11:06my kids right is it true that you were going to possibly be hannah montana i mean yeah i i

00:11:12mean

00:11:13it's funny like she had the offer i had the offer and it was phil hadn't ended at that point

00:11:18it was

00:11:18like they knew that phil i think was on the way out or told us like you know we might

00:11:23not be doing a

00:11:23third season and and gary who you know was the head of of the channel gary marsh at the time

00:11:29and rich

00:11:30um yeah was like this pilot has come in and we think that you're really perfect for it um and

00:11:36i

00:11:37just remember reading it and being like wait but i'm doing music as ally and this might be really

00:11:44confusing being hannah and and being the character also playing hannah there's like three very three

00:11:49versions there would be three of you it would be very confusing and i was like you know how does

00:11:53aj

00:11:54relate to this and then they they i mean they literally said well then aj could play the best

00:11:58friend part lily i think yeah so they were like why don't you have and i was like but it

00:12:03feels like

00:12:03it's my show it's not really like right hannah and lily show um and i think at that point too

00:12:08i was

00:12:09probably like close to being maybe 17 at that point um which is funny too because like we weren't on

00:12:18the channel for that long like i i booked phil at 13 and then by the time it was over

00:12:22i was like you

00:12:23know whatever 16 and a half or something so i was like almost 17 i think when that was offered

00:12:30and i

00:12:31just remember thinking like i've kind of done what i wanted to do here on the channel you know what

00:12:36i

00:12:36mean in a way we had done cowbells the music had aired a lot yeah on disney channel cowbell i

00:12:41guess

00:12:41cowbells we were just starting to like dive into yeah exactly yeah i did you're right you're right i mean

00:12:47obviously like uh that was meant to be for miley but that's so interesting how like those pivotal

00:12:53moments obviously like everyone was kind of up for certain roles that like it would have looked so

00:12:58different with you guys in that position versus her obviously um okay is it true aj that you had your

00:13:05first kiss with joe jonas yes that is true in a bowling bring up all the old stuff i know

00:13:11i'm like

00:13:11we gotta go through it we gotta go through in a bowling alley it was so innocent we a bowling

00:13:16alley

00:13:16it was sweet that's so cute and did you guys like date for a long time we dated for a

00:13:20while i don't

00:13:21um i mean for like a young relationship like over a year is pretty good a half something that's pretty

00:13:26solid that's a really long time yeah i feel like i was so curious like all of you guys were

00:13:30on such

00:13:31like different shows but like this was kind of your high school experience yeah yeah so like how did you

00:13:36guys all hang out and like meet on different shows like what was the social dynamic like well we met

00:13:42on tour so the jonas brothers opened for us and that's when we started like there was like a spark

00:13:47and i was like oh this would be fun like we started dating on that and make like something happen

00:13:50with

00:13:50like me and kevin kevin and i was like it's not really vibing and then i mean bless but like

00:13:55yeah and

00:13:56then it was like no maybe you can like date the bass player greg and i was like no it's

00:13:59still not

00:13:59vibing and i mean like again bless him too but of course but it just wasn't i was like no

00:14:04you can't

00:14:04like force you can't force it it was like natural that i was yeah it was a natural we were

00:14:09all

00:14:09buddies of course we were and it was a really fun tour um but i think beyond that so like

00:14:15for me it's

00:14:16like we were homeschooled our whole lives we didn't experience school dances we didn't but

00:14:20instead we had tour like at a really young age like to me i wouldn't trade yeah i wouldn't trade

00:14:24any of it because i'm like our experiences on the road were so cool and it's actually why i love

00:14:29touring as an adult yeah because i think it was ingrained in me at a young age that it was

00:14:32a really

00:14:33cool opportunity to have this moment to connect with your fans it's not jarring to like go on

00:14:37the road and i love it it's very natural like i think some people dive in as an adult and

00:14:40they're

00:14:40like i don't want to be on the road and we're like we love it bring it on but you're

00:14:43like this is all

00:14:43we ever know yeah yeah it's weird so anyway i wouldn't yeah there's nothing i would really trade

00:14:46back i just no no that's an amazing answer okay did you secretly date your phil of the future co

00:14:52-star

00:14:52for six years no no wait who said that that's funny is this thing rumors online that you secretly

00:14:58dated phil of the future co-star for six years literally can attest never even kissed you guys didn't

00:15:03even it was always a friendship now although i remember like he's also older than you well and

00:15:07in that that age range felt huge like i was 13 and i think he was 16 i think oh

00:15:14yeah and that is

00:15:14huge that's a big gap at that age but i remember during the test like when i tested for phil

00:15:19the

00:15:19future and i saw that he was the other boy that was up for i was like he's really cute

00:15:22yeah and

00:15:23then of course you meet them and then you're like oh now we're just buddies and like we actually

00:15:26became really good friends with his girlfriend during that show like he was dating yeah that is true

00:15:30yeah sweet yeah so no no no um okay we're clearing up all the rumors that is so funny years

00:15:36and years

00:15:36later okay um obviously we know disney was like very strict now that like everyone kind of like

00:15:42knows the deal were you able to experiment at all like normal teenagers like have your first drink and

00:15:49like go to parties at all or no yeah yeah for sure you did yeah i feel like we had

00:15:54a healthy like

00:15:54teenage life yeah but like but we were like not party girls like for whatever that's worth i think

00:16:00the channel got very lucky having us under the umbrella yeah i mean in a weird way we should

00:16:03have been on for like 15 years because they would have been like they're good we don't need to be

00:16:06worried no it's true going like yeah for whatever reason we just were not like rebellious types both

00:16:12of us and i think maybe part of it was because we had each other yeah so it was like

00:16:15we didn't have

00:16:16to act out and prove ourself yeah like our parents or it was just kind of nice yeah no you're

00:16:22right i

00:16:23don't even know what it is it's like luck i feel maybe it's just luck but also like ali and

00:16:26i this

00:16:27sounds kind of ridiculous but when we got a little older but we weren't quite like drinking age yeah

00:16:31people like kind of in la started like trusting us as the girls that would like go into ladue but

00:16:37not

00:16:37get hammered like let them in they can have a uh like like we knew some of the bouncers and

00:16:41they

00:16:41would just like mark our hand and they'd be like we trust you come on i'm not kidding like

00:16:45they're fine like they're never going to be a liability no like truly and we kind of i mean

00:16:49and that was during the height of all of those girls you know where you see everybody like

00:16:53coming out of the club but like we were just fine you're like hi hi we'll just be like no

00:16:59problem

00:16:59in the yeah it's not being like a kiss ass it was just like who we were who we were

00:17:02which i think is

00:17:03which i think then made people be like oh my gosh you're so darling the mashaka girls like they're

00:17:06just harmless sweet yeah that's pretty funny everyone knows you guys as ali and aj right like everyone

00:17:13it's ali and aj it's ali and aj have you guys ever resented that package deal concept no i think

00:17:22we've always like the duo aspect of it no we've never resented that i think the only thing that

00:17:26maybe we've been like gosh i wish we had had like a different band name that wasn't our names we

00:17:33didn't think it was cool like as kids we were like why did we do the ali and aj thing

00:17:36because

00:17:36now it's just our names yeah it's very memorable no the duo thing didn't bug us didn't no no like

00:17:42when you guys were growing up at all obviously taking different projects and if like one was

00:17:46having more success than the other at a time like how did you guys handle that as sisters because

00:17:50i have a sister and i don't care what we're doing like we were competitive competitive you know what

00:17:56i mean yeah and like we are always supportive each other but i do feel like naturally there can be

00:18:01moments where it's like oh like you're getting the better parts or you're getting the better roles

00:18:05or like right did you ever have moments where you had to like sit down and be like

00:18:09let's talk this out i think the only time where we felt like okay we're getting um asked to go

00:18:14out

00:18:15for the same roles and we feel really strongly that one of us is really right for this and would

00:18:19you mind standing down like i think there were a couple times we both got the same audition or

00:18:24but usually one of us would come to the other and be like i'm really not right for this you

00:18:28should

00:18:28just go out for this and i'm just gonna and the other one wouldn't like that's happened before

00:18:31where we're like we've just like said okay fine you go for it like by the way it would never

00:18:35be

00:18:35but it would never be down to the two of us like our acting is so different yeah so i

00:18:39think our

00:18:40ages our looks our energy like but we did get asked sometimes to go to the same audition and i

00:18:44think some of that was just because of like i don't know that some some parts kind of would

00:18:50overlap yeah yeah it's like you know 20 to 22 to 25 and we're like yeah but there was never

00:18:55a role

00:18:56specifically where i was like wow i really wish that had been me and like i kind of bummed it

00:19:00was out

00:19:01like never like for me it was like i thought it was so cool that she was like an easy

00:19:04a and hell

00:19:05cats and like she's done great work and it always felt like it should be ally you know what i

00:19:09mean

00:19:09and i always want to be her over anyone else so if i'm not gonna book it right i'd rather

00:19:13than be a

00:19:14family you know no that's such like a healthy way to look at it because anyone that has a sister

00:19:18i'm

00:19:19like i want my sister twin always and i think there's you're right there's like a natural also like

00:19:26aside from competitiveness you're also very protective of your sibling being like i want her

00:19:31to do the best but i also think it's very like healthy that you guys are able to have that

00:19:35because

00:19:35i'm not in the same industry as my sister like i can't imagine at some capacity you guys are

00:19:41intertwined and there is a slight competition in light moments that but that's kind of healthy that

00:19:45you guys are like we didn't feel it that much no no and like if anything where it was i

00:19:49mean i guess

00:19:50you could call it competitive it would be like if we like the same guy oh yeah let's talk about

00:19:53that

00:19:54yeah that would happen every now and then that would happen every once in a while you guys had

00:19:57the same taste growing up similar right yeah similar i would say yeah our tastes were very

00:20:02similar yeah look at you guys adjusting now you're like i know i know adjusting wait stop so you guys

00:20:08at one point would like have a crush and how would you handle it well neither of us would get

00:20:11that guy

00:20:11yeah it was just like yeah neither but yeah it would just be like we both liked him and both

00:20:16of us

00:20:16failed or like i remember this is funny that you asked us we were making a record in new york

00:20:22one that never ended up coming out and um we we have 10 of those yeah no just one right

00:20:28you're

00:20:28like one day maybe they'll come out yeah two um and we were we were feeling very cool that you

00:20:33were

00:20:33like you know living in new york for like a month no parents you know i don't know at this

00:20:38point we

00:20:38were like 21 and 22 and 20 right um and every night we were really obsessed with wanting to go

00:20:46out

00:20:46to all of these restaurants in new york we're like sometimes it didn't even make sense where it's like

00:20:49girl that's way on the other side of town that's a 30 minute all right you guys are from los

00:20:53angeles

00:20:53and you don't know shit love so we would be like okay we're going to catch or whatever and we

00:20:57went

00:20:57to this one restaurant called revel i don't know why i remember that i don't know if it's still

00:21:01around um and there was a cute guy that was our waiter and i left my number for him on

00:21:05the bill

00:21:05and i told aj and she was like what i was pissed and we left the restaurant she was like

00:21:11i was like he

00:21:12was cute and she's like i know i left my number and i was like what like you mean i

00:21:15could have

00:21:16and i didn't and you did judging me that i had done that you know and like put my so

00:21:19stupid my

00:21:20neck out so dumb but obviously this guy never texted rude so you never called so right meanwhile

00:21:27i'm like i don't need to be competitive because i don't need to worry you either we i'm upset and

00:21:31did you guys ever ever ever hook up with the same person at any point in your lives like overlap

00:21:35of

00:21:35like years later you met up with someone say like same kiss or yeah no no no there's been a

00:21:42couple

00:21:42like close calls yeah where it was like i liked that guy kind of and then it was like oh

00:21:47no like

00:21:47aj and him are kind of dating and then it would be like over after or there was a moment

00:21:51where i

00:21:51like tested for something and the leading guy i thought was really cool and then ali actually

00:21:55ended up dating him later yeah yeah but it wasn't like a i was also with him no no there's

00:22:00never been

00:22:00an actual crossover no thank god i mean that would be kind of weird we're so enmeshed in each other's

00:22:05lives already i know it's like you're literally like one in that concept like when i talk about

00:22:08because my sister's four years older than me and we've never dated the same guy yeah but even you

00:22:13talk about it incessantly with each other like when you start dating yeah obviously so it's like

00:22:17i couldn't go to her if i knew that she liked the guy that i was right she knows all

00:22:22the inside

00:22:22how do you detail it out she's like i know i experienced all of it with a friend because

00:22:26with a family member i would be like katherine you need to get over it because i need to tell

00:22:29you

00:22:29everything she'd be like okay he was cute but now i'm over okay go tell me everything yeah right

00:22:33she did one time help like literally held my hand while i broke up with a guy over the phone

00:22:39i'm not kidding you she was like i do you remember that it was in calabasas you were like

00:22:43you can do it i did i'm like on the phone with him being like i really don't this isn't

00:22:47right like i

00:22:47and i'm like you got it no that is like literally that's also so i mean that just brought me

00:22:54back

00:22:54to that bedroom is that funny calabasas calabasas yeah no yes we were calabasas kids i know before

00:22:59it was cool way before it was cool love that for you guys when it was a johnny rockets you

00:23:04know i mean

00:23:04like we're that far i love that for you we breaking up with someone is the worst feeling

00:23:08the worst it's sickening it's so hard it's actually sickening but that's why like people

00:23:12whenever i'm like it's there's nothing better than having a sister and it's i feel for my friends

00:23:17that are like i never had a sister i don't know what it's like it's like it's a friendship on

00:23:21steroids yes you are literally going to kill for her it's different than a brother completely it's

00:23:27actually almost a diss to call it a friendship it's like no this is living on another that's a

00:23:31great point it's like an extension of yourself yes yes it's so fun hearing you guys talk about

00:23:35your dynamic together and obviously so much of what you're writing also goes into like love and

00:23:40your life and your family and yeah but potential breakup song i just have to ask the one question

00:23:45because i think it's like i saw tiktok we're gonna we have to make this tiktok and it's someone being

00:23:49like you guys remember when those two sisters walked into the studio and they really said this

00:23:53like it's to this day still such an anthem what inspired that song no you're not a real person

00:24:01stop it's actually the most like it's the most anti-climactic we are there's no real person i need

00:24:08to pause you guys because the way you both just pause i thought i was about to get like yeah

00:24:14no

00:24:18it doesn't exist it doesn't okay tell me though i think we just were like what if there was a

00:24:22guy

00:24:22that was such a like i mean at this point we were 18 and maybe younger 17 and 15 writing

00:24:29this song

00:24:30which we had day but like very little at this point we had probably each had you would have

00:24:33probably two boyfriends i'd barely had one boyfriend because i was behind she was behind

00:24:37behind her okay so like i'm like she was behind she was still a lot of still a lot of

00:24:42the songs were

00:24:43like living in a dream world of what we thought a relationship was like because we were still

00:24:47really young yeah so to us it was like what if this guy was like so terrible that he didn't

00:24:52call

00:24:52you on your birthday and that you begged him to get your stuff back and he like wouldn't give it

00:24:55back

00:24:55and then you just had to deliver it in a box at your house literally that's like it's that it's

00:24:59literally like you two sitting on your bed together being like genius let's yes let's go oh what's

00:25:03funny though was that no guy drive i do remember i do remember we were young we were young enough

00:25:07that we couldn't drive driving since there is no story behind it tell me both of your like most

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00:27:32data we've got a lot of girlies that listen how did you get through it what was your most like

00:27:39brutal

00:27:40breakup and how you got through it obviously like we're not naming names but just like the concept

00:27:44like have either of you ever been cheated on i mean age you go first yeah i was cheated on

00:27:49how

00:27:49did you find out the guy was like hooking up with our really good friend at the time no how

00:27:54did you

00:27:54find out it like blew up the friendship and the relationship yeah i don't even know how it came

00:27:58out but it happened in the calabasas commons parking lot stop yeah and it was like it was and we

00:28:04were

00:28:04young so it was like obviously it hits hard no matter what age you are when you feel like wow

00:28:09i've been completely but this was like a friendship this was like a friendship a girl friendship that

00:28:14was was basically the breakup it wasn't like the guy if that makes sense it was like we had found

00:28:19out some stuff about her that made us feel like we didn't really know who she was and we had

00:28:24been

00:28:24friends with her for like a long time and that was truly the the worst breakup and it was a

00:28:28girlfriend break yeah that's those now and then we meant it like we're okay now yeah like if we see

00:28:32her at a event or whatever we like we'll dm and stuff but we don't like hang actively which is

00:28:37kind

00:28:37of sad because it was a big part of our childhood but like that is so that was the guy

00:28:41that guy was

00:28:42like didn't even matter right you're like it's just the concept of what happened with the friendship

00:28:45that's always the worst when like understandably people are like don't blame the girl blame the guy

00:28:50and it's like no no for sure but if you were almost closer with the girl than the guy that

00:28:54you were

00:28:54dating yes that's where it's like how do you recover from those moments and then it gives you

00:28:58like full trust issues because you're like how did i not know that and you could like hold my hand

00:29:03while i'm crying over this and little do i know i'm crying because of you oh yeah that's sick okay

00:29:08ali go no um okay i'm trying to think gosh worst um you haven't been cheated on have you i

00:29:15haven't

00:29:16been cheated on that's nice which is actually good that's for you that's good i know that's good

00:29:20that's good that's good i don't know what that's all clap for that um no trauma um yeah no trauma

00:29:25um i i'm trying to think of hmm i mean i've had guys i've i've had more guys probably break

00:29:35up with

00:29:35me than me break up with them okay so i've been broken up with probably quite a bit have you

00:29:39been

00:29:39blindsided by the breakups i mean i feel like i was blindsided many times yeah like many but a lot

00:29:45of them it was like you know i was being broken up with because this person was like a professional

00:29:50athlete and was like i need to work on my job and like you're a distraction i'm like i need

00:29:56to work

00:29:56on my tour bus right now you're a distraction i need to work on my job yeah i know wait

00:30:01ridiculous

00:30:02do you know where you're sitting in a direct quote no no that is the best direct quote i've ever

00:30:07heard

00:30:07a professional athlete telling you i have to work on my job we you know that i talk a lot

00:30:14about that

00:30:15yes yes wait how long did you date it wasn't that long but it was very like um that was

00:30:21like a solid

00:30:22year maybe maybe a little i don't even know what sport hockey football football i remember being

00:30:28really heartbroken by that now i'm looking back on it being like but to any of the girls that are

00:30:33like

00:30:34i feel like around new year a lot of people end relationships because i feel like everyone's like

00:30:41oh my gosh like i want to start fresh i want to kick this person to the curb or i

00:30:46want to like

00:30:46try something different like do you have any advice when you look back at those relationships when people

00:30:51ended things with you as hard as it was in the moment now when you look back like give us

00:30:56some

00:30:56advice of how to get through those horrible blindsiding moments honestly like having a couple

00:31:01really solid guy friends was really helpful like i would talk to them about this and they'd be like

00:31:05this guy's a total loser like absolutely not and and you know yeah of course you could say that they

00:31:11want to get with you but these were like truly platonic even if they do okay but they were

00:31:18platonic relationships that were really like i would yeah i would be on the phone like talking to

00:31:22dan yeah i knew you were gonna be like i can't you believe this and he'd be like this is

00:31:27an absolute

00:31:27sign that this guy is not right for you and like he was only in it because he just wanted

00:31:31to like

00:31:32sleep with you and be done and over and you're like thank you dan thank you now let's hook up

00:31:37no

00:31:37i'm just kidding yeah totally um okay daddy gang needs some advice and i feel like all i'm getting

00:31:43from this entire episode is you guys are very wise and you've always been wise and you've always been

00:31:47like little yodas no literally like you guys no but actually you guys have been like people would

00:31:52let you into the club because they're like ally and aj are gonna keep it real you guys didn't lose

00:31:56yourself to fame you didn't lose you guys have like seemingly like very normal lives and you're still

00:32:01so successful and you're still in the spotlight so we need your advice okay okay you want to end

00:32:06a friendship where you've been drifting apart do you have a breakup conversation with your friend

00:32:12or do you let it die out oh i've done both i've had more if i'm being honest i've had

00:32:18a couple

00:32:19die outs not conversations where it's just kind of like you kind of stop texting and then it's like

00:32:23they also do yeah and then it's like you kind of are like we both know this isn't right yeah

00:32:27just kind of a form of ghosting it's not great i think you should have the conversation when you

00:32:31have the conversation it's bigger to do that do you think those were more extreme moments like did

00:32:35something yes it can make it too big of a deal but but it was usually because it was based

00:32:41on

00:32:41something that happened that i was like i can't really not see this now and it's here and let's

00:32:45talk about it and this is why i can't go forward as a friend but i think that's good advice

00:32:48it's like

00:32:49you kind of have to gauge where you're at if it's just like you never really see each other anymore

00:32:54but you have this like weight over you and they're not being that great to you you can maybe

00:32:58let it simmer yeah to me some some things don't need like a spot lens true sometimes sometimes it's

00:33:03not like this big huge fight sometimes it's like i'm seeing some things about your lifestyle that

00:33:08doesn't gel with mine or yes or that you know i don't know you weren't there for me in these

00:33:13moments that i needed you and it's kind of like showing your true colors and that's okay we just part

00:33:16our own ways yeah that's like sometimes that's part of just growing up and being a girl i think

00:33:21that's what's like been so eye-opening as i've gotten older like growing apart from friendships

00:33:27is so sad and it's like horrible to look back at like some of my like high school friends that

00:33:33i'm not as close with anymore whatever or just also like recognizing like we really grew up and

00:33:37we are different or like we live our lives differently and that doesn't mean they're a

00:33:41bad person you're just like it doesn't mesh anymore but it is sad when a part of your childhood

00:33:45in that way kind of dies like wait i just said bye to a friend in a way that i

00:33:49know i'm not

00:33:49really going to connect with again and i think it's like sometimes yes sometimes those are harder

00:33:53than actual breakups with men sometimes where you're like shit that hurt but i think that's a

00:33:58good like bit of advice is like you can do both but i think don't actively seek out a conversation

00:34:04if the person's gonna be like wait what are you talking about if something happens absolutely address

00:34:09it yes but you can also like let something simmer if that's like the natural course of where it was

00:34:13going to go anyways yeah and it says a lot if both sides aren't really reaching out then it's

00:34:17like the natural course was for it kind of says everything in a way okay you find out you were

00:34:23accidentally the other woman do you reach out to her or do you stay out of it i'm the type

00:34:29that

00:34:29would reach out yeah we're both breathing so heavy we're all like i'm like yeah i think i would

00:34:39contact her i think i would i think i would i i'm the other woman i'm so sorry i didn't

00:34:44know

00:34:44um well what's funny is that we've seen one of our girlfriends our close girlfriends do that

00:34:50and i it was like i was kind of being like don't do this this is this is cringe like

00:34:55why is this a

00:34:56huge message you know i don't know if she did it right she didn't do it right i think there's

00:35:00a way

00:35:00you can i mean i've said that to her face like yeah yeah same you didn't nail this too long

00:35:04oh she

00:35:05literally wrote like a paragraph paragraph yeah no no no and also then that girl is like uh yeah right

00:35:10sure honey you know and then making her look like then it makes her feel like the truth are you

00:35:14making this up that you're really the other woman like yeah you look insane yeah oh this is really

00:35:18interesting yeah i think a paragraph to ever start something off bad you gotta go in shorter and just

00:35:25begin the convo rather than hit it hard where someone's like oh my god i need to like read this

00:35:30tonight when i have time like and sit down and actually think about this yeah but okay so you guys

00:35:35would both say something i would be like i'm sick i'm ill like this this happened i need you to

00:35:40know

00:35:40and i'm so sorry bye i kind of agree with that like i feel like if you were not again

00:35:45clarifying you

00:35:46didn't even know you were the other woman if you were aware like then that's a complete different

00:35:50situation that's like on you but karma's on you yes but if you weren't aware i kind of agree

00:35:55because then even if she stays on her you know totally at least you had your moment to say like

00:36:01this moment happened and i said my piece and like i can live with that love this yeah if you

00:36:06knew

00:36:06one of your close friends was cheating on her husband who you're also friends with how do you

00:36:12handle that that's really hard that's really hard that's never happened thank god has that ever

00:36:16happened to you maybe not husband or i have known not husband but yeah i've known that there's like

00:36:22shadiness going on and you're close to both of them yeah and i kind of stayed out of it

00:36:29because i just didn't know it dissolve on its own with you staying out of it you know what's

00:36:34interesting i'm not really that close with them anymore so i don't know what happened but i also

00:36:38think maybe that partially is because it was like bleeding into every part of their like when you're

00:36:42lying that heavily in your life it bleeds into every other everything you're in your life like she was

00:36:47more distant because she was being so cagey but and then i was kind of like i don't know oh

00:36:51wow yeah i

00:36:51think it depends on maybe who like who's the og friend is it is it her or is it the

00:36:56guy like i don't

00:36:57know like i'm at the same i mean if you met at the same time it's it's hard it's so

00:37:01hard i'd like

00:37:02to think i'd have the courage to say something or to be like i don't know like is everything okay

00:37:05like well i want to think if i'm the same woman who's gonna tell the person i was the other

00:37:09woman

00:37:09and didn't know until just now i'd be that same person to say this like i'd like to think those

00:37:13two ladies are the same person i agree like bold i agree i think what's hard sometimes in friendship

00:37:19dynamics is like there's a lot of dynamics i feel like you start to feel as you get older and

00:37:25there's cheating involved i have found sometimes i'm not privy to all the information of these

00:37:31people's relationships and a lot of times i'm like oh you kind of knew that sure like i didn't get

00:37:36the

00:37:36whole side yeah so i'm like if i'm super close if it was my best friend and i'm fine i'm

00:37:41hearing

00:37:42something i'm telling her obviously and be like i love you so much and i support you i just need

00:37:46to

00:37:46tell you i know this and then i'm here whatever you want to do yeah yeah because i think it's

00:37:50half the

00:37:50time the judgment that people feel when someone brings that information they get so anxious like

00:37:55i have to leave him now i have to leave her now and it's like i don't know sometimes i

00:37:59feel like

00:38:00i come off as judgy when you tell them so i also think your delivery has to be like i

00:38:04love you and

00:38:04i know this is so hard but i saw so and so at this restaurant and this and i'm leaving

00:38:09this

00:38:09information yes but i'm here for you if you want to talk and like whatever you do i love you

00:38:12i think

00:38:13now in my 30s that is how i would approach it but it would take me a hot minute to

00:38:17come to that

00:38:17yes like bravery of yeah okay we're doing this you'd call your sister first yes like what do i

00:38:22do totally we'd rehearse it i'd hold her hand while she says the conversation or we would go in

00:38:27person and i'd hold her hand in person thank you um okay you accidentally send a screenshot of the

00:38:32conversation to the person you were gossiping about how do you play it off oh have you nice

00:38:36never done that you don't know oh my god i have done that oh my god in college i was

00:38:42talking

00:38:43shit about the guy that i was seeing and i was like texting my friend and i was sunbathing i

00:38:49was

00:38:49at boston university i remember exactly where i was laying i was in my little bikini and it was so

00:38:53bright out and i was holding my phone up texting and i was talking to this hockey player he was

00:38:59so dumb

00:39:00and i was just like so over it i screenshotted it send it to him being like hockey player wants

00:39:06me to

00:39:07go on his boat later like i'm gonna have to have like a couple drinks and it went to him

00:39:12and then

00:39:12what he what was his response was he like um you see now you can unset i know so we're

00:39:17in a good

00:39:18era now we're fine so now we're good and guys i literally responded i'm pretty sure like first i

00:39:23called my mom screaming like i you guys i am under the sun i realized i do it i'm pretty

00:39:28sure he

00:39:28responded like lol at first which is like actually yeah that's kind of he was probably thinking like

00:39:33oh that's funny so dumb this is a funny joke right yeah it shows how you're like yeah i'm like

00:39:38in the house not smart you're like i am hilarious yeah no and then i was like lol i'm just

00:39:43kidding

00:39:43like i just can't decide if i want to come like what are you thinking good job you guys did

00:39:48he did

00:39:48he roll with it he completely rolled with it wow some later that night oh but that says even more

00:39:53you did start the conversation thing he wasn't smart so like completely also why did i go i don't

00:39:58know i was bored you know what i mean yeah that's an ego thing where i was like i have

00:40:01to see

00:40:01this man to like make sure that he actually forgave me like this is insane that he doesn't

00:40:06recognize that i was completely shit talking him i would be more likely for sure to do something

00:40:11like that 100 it would be you would oh way over me like i'm actually surprised it hasn't happened

00:40:16but it hasn't twice wait because you're just like you're gonna do some like clumsy shit where you're

00:40:20like how did i get in this situation like hello you're on the wrong group chat it's like oh shit

00:40:25there will be times we're all like sidebar chat to her and i'll be like just so you know you're

00:40:29talking in a way that if this leads to more this you're in the wrong you're in the wrong you're

00:40:33on

00:40:33the wrong track here yeah and she'll be like oh thank you totally thank you so yeah that is kind

00:40:39of like younger sister energy though like the correction officer i call my sister and i'm like

00:40:43are you okay and she's like what and i'm like why are you sending that to the family group chat

00:40:48you

00:40:48we were just texting and she's like oh my gosh i don't know like yeah i'm kind of i'm always

00:40:52good

00:40:52yeah that that that does track his younger sister it is it is it's like we we know everything

00:40:56like stay exactly um okay do you guys ever go on double dates oh yeah yeah i mean with our

00:41:02people

00:41:02now with our guys i don't think in the past have we ever really done that in the past i'm

00:41:06trying to

00:41:06think um before steven and josh no i don't think so i don't think so that's become more of an

00:41:10adult

00:41:10like yeah it's been like three-wheeling where it's like two people on a date and then i'm like hey

00:41:15i'm

00:41:15here hanging with you having lunch you know or that's true yeah let's talk about steven and josh

00:41:20um so serious ali you met your husband when you were in your early 20s yeah what made him stand

00:41:27out to you um i don't know i just got a vibe like this guy is just different like he's

00:41:33really deep

00:41:34he's very mature he's just like tapped into something where'd you guys meet uh we met on a

00:41:41set he was the dp and i was the like lead actor in this like really tiny little indie um

00:41:47and i don't

00:41:49know like i just picked up this energy from him that um like just instantly i was kind of like

00:41:56this guy is like i'm like safe with this guy like i can really be myself around him and he's

00:42:00like

00:42:01artistic and he really cares about this project and how he's talking about it and how he is on set

00:42:06he

00:42:06has very much like a leadership kind of energy um even though he was very young and it was the

00:42:12first

00:42:13movie that he was you know a dp on um so i don't know i was just like it was

00:42:18a meant to be

00:42:19thing and at the time i was seeing a guy that i was in like i call it like a

00:42:24kept relationship

00:42:26um wait what like i couldn't get out it was just like he was a guy who was older than

00:42:29me

00:42:30that i had like that i had lost my virginity to to be completely honest and i was like girl

00:42:34we gotta

00:42:34get rid of it i was like i'm good like it's it's all good like this is a sweet memory

00:42:38and moment

00:42:39but like we're we're done you did break up and he and he was like i made you a woman

00:42:43like bad he said that he did he is cringe no it's really crazy no how long were you together

00:42:50with

00:42:51him uh like a year year and like a year and a half yeah i mean i know i know

00:42:56you hated it well you had

00:42:58an okay friendship with him in the beginning in the beginning it's someone that should have always

00:43:01been like a guy friend oh yeah never should have dated 100 we for a man to say that he

00:43:05made you a

00:43:06woman i will kill you no i know i know i know but the fact that i was like kind

00:43:10of chill like

00:43:11almost kind of like a bro like yeah this is nice like whatever like who cares i lost my virginity

00:43:16to you it's like not that big of a deal and he like so sentimental he like had it in

00:43:19his diary

00:43:19like wow i'm excited about this how did you end a relationship with him because that's hard

00:43:26like to be like someone that's clearly he was more into it than you yeah you called it a kept

00:43:31relationship yes i know i know i mean you did end it and then remember he like convinced you to

00:43:35stay in it stay in it so i like i we had broken up and then we got back together

00:43:39and then i'm on

00:43:39this movie like hanging out you know shooting in sequoia national park we're all we're all staying

00:43:46in these cabins at the base of the mountain so like after we would wrap we all would eat dinner

00:43:51together and hang out and like run lines or whatever and um i just remember like essentially

00:43:58like talking shit about him to people being like i don't know i'm like i'm in this relationship but

00:44:01like i gotta get out of it like you know at this time it was like what it was like

00:44:06november

00:44:06beginning of november so i was probably thinking like you know i'm gonna try to wrap this up and

00:44:10and be on my way but i knew that i had i had agreed to do a movie that he

00:44:16was directing that was next

00:44:17it was the next film so i had to do this next movie with him as the director and i

00:44:22broke up i broke up

00:44:23with him at the beginning of the movie i was so but then had to be in it but had

00:44:26to be in it directed

00:44:27by him yeah and he would be kind of trying to be like no like we can make this work

00:44:30and i was like

00:44:31we're done i really don't want to do this wait you're so strong it was brutal it was not i

00:44:36do

00:44:36not recommend doing that i recommend just bailing out of the movie and not doing the movie true but

00:44:40also that's like your career where you're like yeah do i do it or that's tough yeah wait that's

00:44:45also like ladies listening i have been in that situation before when you try to break up with

00:44:51someone anyone whatever they don't let you go okay literally won't let you and they won't let you

00:44:56that means it's really bad run it's kind of like firing it's kind of like firing someone that's

00:45:00like you're not yeah you're not doing this i'm not leaving what why would you want me now like if

00:45:06i'm firing you would always be like you know that's normal like there'd be like ups and downs like

00:45:10sometimes like you'll you'll be in and out of love i'm like no that ain't how it works no when

00:45:14someone doesn't want you listen to them and leave yes believe them oh my god okay wait so when you

00:45:19met ali's husband like were you immediately you like no in the beginning i was like i think she was

00:45:23a

00:45:24little judgmental like hated there's something not hated there's some crossover that's happening

00:45:27here i was a little judgy i'm not gonna lie even though i knew ali was gonna get out of

00:45:32it i was

00:45:32like you should have gotten out of it like six months ago and then you'd be like free and clear

00:45:35but whatever um but then he turned into my husband true he turned into the husband so i'm happy and

00:45:41he's literally become like my brother like i love him and i have so much respect for him as a

00:45:45husband

00:45:46and a dad like to watch him as a father like it's really beautiful um but in the beginning i

00:45:52was

00:45:52like i don't know about this guy like he was really shy he was really quiet i don't do great

00:45:57with quiet people except for like when i was translating she's a translator but like in general

00:46:02like i'm like come on like let's go like let's have a conversation like i've got a really bubbly

00:46:06personality and he was just very quiet he's like an intellectual he's very he's super grounded super

00:46:10smart and i think i felt maybe like a little like okay here's this like ivy league guy i'm not

00:46:15going to be able to like carry a conversation with him he's probably smarter than me like i think i

00:46:19was intimidated i get that and again back to what we were saying with sisters it's like you're

00:46:23protective so protective and you have to look for her blind spots yes that's how i am with my sister

00:46:29like she's dating right now and i'm like no what is going on and what it like because i'm just

00:46:33like

00:46:34i want the best for her so yeah naturally it is your job almost to be like i don't like

00:46:38you until

00:46:38you prove that i should like you yes and then he did and i was like i love him although

00:46:42two years

00:46:43later when he proposed i like sobbed oh yeah and you knew before yeah i got so not because i

00:46:49wasn't happy for ali i literally felt like i'm like i'm gonna lose my sister i think that's like

00:46:53i had this weird unrealistic idea that a marriage meant that then the sisterhood would be over yeah

00:46:58like i literally went up we were living together in laurel canyon and we were sharing a place and i

00:47:01went upstairs i lived in the top loft and i like closed my closet door and i sobbed i was

00:47:06so happy for

00:47:07her but at the same time i was like i'm literally gonna lose my sister and it didn't happen at

00:47:11all

00:47:11of course here we are yeah here we are do you think that's really relatable like i've talked

00:47:14about this with my siblings especially like around the holiday season you get to spend more time with

00:47:20your family and it is kind of like sad when you start to get older and adult and do all

00:47:25the things

00:47:25that adults should be doing and your core family starts to expand and it's like now you're creating

00:47:31your own family right and your own memories and traditions and it's so sad but exciting but i

00:47:36relate to that a lot of like as we are all growing older you're like we i want to hold

00:47:41on to my

00:47:41siblings and what we had in our core don't grow up and don't leave me yeah really it's more just

00:47:47like

00:47:47there's now more memories and there's more fun yes it adds to it you mourn nothing dies no but i

00:47:52get

00:47:52why you would freak out because like i'm the same way you're gonna on the wedding night like god bless

00:47:58our dad but like he we were doing like a dance even though it was a father-daughter dance later

00:48:02down the

00:48:03road it wasn't my father-daughter dance you had had yours but i was like later dancing with dad and

00:48:07i was like this is a really sweet moment and dad goes honey how are you doing and i was

00:48:10like i'm

00:48:10really happy for them like i feel really good about this and he was like that's awesome you know what

00:48:13you lost a sister but you gained a brother and i was like what the huh i mean it's saying

00:48:19it was

00:48:20everything i had cried about he didn't mean my dad just our dad talks like that yeah like he and

00:48:27i was

00:48:27like huh you're like wait come again you're like dad this is why i've been mentally unwell for the

00:48:33past couple years yes unwell but this is also the same man love you dad shout out to dad and

00:48:38mom

00:48:38great people this is also the same man who like lost his father a few years ago and stephen never

00:48:44got to meet him our grandpa and literally at the funeral i wasn't at the funeral because i was

00:48:48working and at the funeral told stephen i want you to meet my dad and he was dead in the

00:48:52but he's in like that's like we're just we're not we're not like that verbiage is interesting

00:48:56it's just interesting you're like dad i want you to meet my dad it's no longer he's no longer here

00:49:02shake his hand yeah and i don't know how wait you were there to witness i was there you said

00:49:07that

00:49:07stephen handled it as stephen handled it so well he was like okay mark stephen's like mark i am

00:49:12gonna meet your dad and we're gonna hit it off over here stare at the open casket but dads can

00:49:18say

00:49:18some really no you guys it's unwell you're like whoa the more and more they get older yeah dads

00:49:24yeah you have to smile yeah my dad has been saying some great love you dad some crazy shit lately

00:49:29i'm

00:49:29like huh love you dad love your dad like you gotta just happy holidays happy holidays you're all i'm

00:49:36saying yeah um okay aj you have a boyfriend i do it's been six years yeah how did you guys

00:49:43meet we

00:49:44met at a film festival in napa oh yeah um ali and i i know it was actually bougie ali

00:49:49and i had made

00:49:50a film with her husband that had gone to the napa valley film festival and he had produced and starred

00:49:54in a short film that was shortlisted for an oscar that year that was also premiering at the film

00:49:58festival oh wow and it was an amazing short film and him and i met and like there was like

00:50:03a spark but

00:50:04at the time he was with his girlfriend there and i was dating someone in canada classic i loved long

00:50:08distance for a while which was just really on that kick um and and i just was like gosh i'm

00:50:15gonna know

00:50:15this guy for a while and i don't know how or why and it's gonna happen at some point but

00:50:19i remember he

00:50:19was wearing this like lumberjack red black flannel and i was just like this guy is hot and he's like

00:50:26salt of the earth vibes and then down the road a year later he was single i was single and

00:50:30we

00:50:30connected on instagram and we needed somebody in our video or take me i had to be a victim in

00:50:37our

00:50:37in our video because we were playing vampires and you're like you and you were like can we kill

00:50:41you in a video hot he should be in the video like let's have him in yeah wait what was

00:50:44your first

00:50:45impression how did you meet him when did you meet him i met him at that at the festival yeah

00:50:49i think

00:50:49you like with you because maybe was there like a panel or something together i think yeah yeah and

00:50:54then and then we did the the video shoot and he was like super down and then we had a

00:50:59couple

00:50:59girlfriends come and also be victims and they were like down to just kind of like hang out for the

00:51:04day

00:51:04when they started dating were you protective or no i don't know what do you feel like i feel like

00:51:09because you already had steven in play for such a right chunk of your life right you've lost some

00:51:15of that because you're set and you're like sure she's got this yeah i think maybe when aj was younger

00:51:19i was more protective or more like who is this guy like yeah what are you after are you actually

00:51:25a

00:51:25loser and you're just like hiding it really well yep um but but i feel like i've always been on

00:51:30like

00:51:30good terms with most of the guys that you've dated i feel like you're kind of a friendly

00:51:34banter yeah you maybe not as much where you've been like friends with my true in a way i've been

00:51:39more judgmental about who she's dated than the other way around yeah which again maybe is the

00:51:42younger sister oh me too i'm like you're a fucking loser you don't deserve my sister my sister's like

00:51:47alex i've gone on two dates with this man and you just ran into him on the street in new

00:51:50york this

00:51:51wasn't even a planned meeting i'm like back off yeah he's like what um okay i'm like yeah that's a

00:51:57nightmare to have me your parents are divorced right yeah how do you guys think their divorce

00:52:02informed how you approached your romantic relationships in your adult lives if i'm

00:52:07going to speak for aj i think that oh oh no that's fine don't speak for you speak for me

00:52:11yeah i think

00:52:12i mean we kind of do in general we speak for each other like maybe a bad habit but um

00:52:16i i think that

00:52:17aj as the little sister vibes was more like heartbroken by yeah i took and shattered and took it

00:52:24really what age did they get divorced from 20 19 and 21 okay okay 19 21 so like in a

00:52:30way you're old

00:52:31enough to know exactly what happened all the details like i i think there's a there's a positive

00:52:36and a negative to it but i think for us i was shattered it helped that i was on a

00:52:41tv show and i

00:52:42was living by myself alone for the first time out in vancouver oh yeah and so i was just focused

00:52:46on

00:52:46that and you were like left at home to be at home with my mom still all of us at

00:52:52that point were

00:52:53living together and you were kind of mourning the divorce a little bit with her so i think in a

00:52:57weird way you like carried some of that trauma with you where i was kind of like bye i'm off

00:53:02shooting the show for eight nine months but when you wrapped we ended up living together we lived

00:53:07with our mom while she kind of dealt with getting her life back together after the divorce like we

00:53:11it would end up being like a home of three women like yeah kind of it was like three's company

00:53:14but

00:53:14just just ladies yeah no that kind of stuff like i know can like you're right affects people in

00:53:20different ways literally down to like logistically where you were at in the middle of your parents

00:53:24getting divorced can play such a role and like how it genuinely affected you because you got to be

00:53:29essentially removed correct yeah do you good point did you notice anything with like how that affected

00:53:34when you started to like engage in romantic relationships there was infidelity with what

00:53:38happened we're actually like super close with both parents and i was able to forgive our father and

00:53:45like i actually feel like we're in a great place now but at the time it was really hard for

00:53:47me

00:53:48and i think when i was dating people i immediately had this trigger that like they're gonna cheat up

00:53:51like they're gonna like because how could that happen after 23 years of marriage like i feel bad

00:53:56talking about it because i love my dad but like it really was one of those things that became a

00:53:59trigger point that like didn't really need to be there like no one needs to be assuming you're being

00:54:03cheated on you just feel like you've seen it now so you're like it's gonna happen it's it's horrible

00:54:07i also think like that's such an interesting dynamic because i could be sitting here with someone that had

00:54:12their parents get divorced when they were like six and it fucked them up right i it is interesting

00:54:17hearing you guys talk about because i know this is a very very very relatable topic which like i

00:54:21have a friend that has a similar situation to you guys with your parents when you are that age and

00:54:26you're very deep and about to begin to explore your romantic adult relationships to have a foundation

00:54:35that was like pretty it seems like pretty solid yeah for your whole very well people would be shocked

00:54:40you know to find out to find out like yes what the machaca family they broke up so your reality

00:54:45was so like disrupted i can imagine that yes like then you're like we if i can't trust like my

00:54:51dad then

00:54:51i can't trust any of these men when really again it's like they're doing this for the first time too

00:54:56and that's their relationship or whatever but it affects you it does girls but i don't think it's like

00:55:02or at least i didn't feel like it turned me off from marriage or not believing in marriage for

00:55:07whatever reason no no i think we still like believed in the idea of it and and i don't know

00:55:15i think we

00:55:15always felt like okay there is a there is a chance that you can actually have a successful marriage

00:55:22in this day and age you just got to really work on it and i think if i'm they stopped

00:55:26working on it

00:55:27yeah they stopped working on it if i'm gonna be the the little yoda that yeah bring it bring it

00:55:31here

00:55:31we go that i am in my heart i love it i love i'm joking but i do love yoda

00:55:35actually the child

00:55:36the child we love girl girl um i think that not working on the relationship between the mom and dad

00:55:48like is is the whole end of the marriage because everything was poured into me and aj and that was

00:55:55almost like a scapegoat and then it was like oh we don't work on ourselves we're not going to be

00:55:59in

00:55:59therapy we're not going to do these things we're not going to make sure that you are flown out on

00:56:03tour every you know two and a half weeks instead we're going to pride ourselves being the parents

00:56:08that were really there for the two kids in the industry but then it's like but then your guys

00:56:11is like at what cost apart which then affects us right that's interesting i saw someone recently

00:56:16talking about um when people just become their identity as being a mother or a father it's like

00:56:22you can't just be one thing like what's your identity to yourself what's your identity to your

00:56:28partner and that's how you lose yourself if you're just one i wonder like obviously how old is your

00:56:34child he's he'll be eight months i mean i guess when he's when we when this is out like oh

00:56:39my god

00:56:39you know almost almost oh my god yeah how has like that concept of like recognizing still needing to

00:56:47pour because you're in the thick of it right now like you've got basically a newborn how have you

00:56:51tried to like work with your partner to make sure you guys are good even in the excitement of having

00:56:56like a new child and that's all you want to talk about well i think i think making moments where

00:57:02it can be the two of us or even if like our kid is around it's like okay well he's

00:57:06like asleep right

00:57:07now we can still kind of have like a little date night and go out to dinner and put him

00:57:10in his little

00:57:10stroller and like it can still be romantic or we can put a movie on or we can get away

00:57:15to our favorite

00:57:16place in big sur and it can be not just all about the kid you know no your son is

00:57:21so adorable

00:57:21like when he was at tour i was literally like this is the most calm baby i literally walk into

00:57:27your dressing room he's here yeah you can see him i see him after yeah yeah yeah he's in a

00:57:31little

00:57:31he's not in a matching we couldn't get miniature but oh yeah yeah but you would have tried you would

00:57:35have tried yeah you know i'm obsessed oh my god we can't get that turned around they're like please

00:57:39calm down you're like okay fine um okay before we're gonna go through now i want to do new music

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00:59:00sol de janeiro.com okay ready who is the more bougie one between the two of you who likes the

00:59:07nicer stuff

00:59:08i don't know maybe maybe aj she'll splurge on more like um like a skincare thing or like doing

00:59:15like like your skin is beautiful thank you facials massages yeah oh yeah the spa the spa we both love

00:59:20a spa but i i tend to like maybe do it a little too much i was gonna say is

00:59:25that like the most like

00:59:26what is the luxury thing you can't live without the spa yeah facials like every like three weeks

00:59:31well it's paying off like literally you have a great oh my god you ever have bad skin like as

00:59:36a teen did you oh my god yes so like i will take all the compliments no oh my god

00:59:40you guys i had

00:59:40like full accutane when i was younger oh wow really but it was just like very hormonal and then like

00:59:45i

00:59:45got over it and it was gone wow and now like here we are flowing facials um okay who is

00:59:52more likely

00:59:52to take a secret to the grave me i probably aj aj yeah you just smiled so i was like

00:59:59give it to me

01:00:00that is true aj i'm like come on bitches but i'm pretty good at keeping a secret but with each

01:00:04other

01:00:04like like got it to the grave together do you know what i mean like that's not the grave that's

01:00:09not i

01:00:10know but it's like it has to be between the two of us who is more likely to pick a

01:00:13fight between the

01:00:15two of you i mean we both can pick a fight with each other pretty like quickly pretty quickly if

01:00:21it's

01:00:21the right subject matter you know the right thing if it's like we're disagreeing on something like

01:00:26how something was handled like aj will be like you had a bunch of typos in this one business email

01:00:30i'm

01:00:30like who cares yeah i'll correct the correction office like she will she's like you're you're

01:00:35you're writing an email like you're texting you know like you're like this is sloppy this isn't good

01:00:38for our business i'm like okay i'm like sorry like that you know that's not even a fight but like

01:00:42i usually start something sooner i feel like than you that's probably true yeah aj's maybe a little

01:00:47more fiery love if you had to say what is your biggest pet peeve about each other

01:00:52i just like start a full fight between you guys on this podcast oh my gosh i have it wow

01:00:58allie started doing this in the last like year very consistently i actually don't think i have

01:01:02addressed it with you oh my god where she'll go maybe you could do that like yeah you're right

01:01:06it's me it's me she'll start a sentence that she's asking you to do something but instead it's

01:01:11like maybe you could get that bottle like for jack or like maybe you could get that that's true

01:01:15you know what i'm talking about yeah yeah yeah i don't know how you word it exactly i think it

01:01:17starts with maybe you could oh interesting and it's like a you want me to like you want me to

01:01:21or i could ask me the question and i'll do it okay so i should just be asking the question

01:01:25yes

01:01:26or just be like get me this can't stand it get me get me this i mean i'd rather you

01:01:30just say like

01:01:30do that get the burp cloth maybe you could maybe you could oh interesting oh that's infuriating

01:01:36that drives me nuts that's a good one that is a great one okay your turn oh aj um

01:01:42hmm okay we both are ocd and we know this about each other but aj loves to reorganize

01:01:50an area that i've already kind of pre-tried to organize knowing that aj doesn't like something

01:01:54moved that's true like the shoes or something i'm like okay she'll like it i love things like

01:01:58moved and it's like the shoes are just in a different corner but they're still

01:02:01they're still on the ground and you're like i literally cleaned for i'm like i've cleaned for

01:02:04the ocd like just trying to get ahead that's ocd you can't the beauty it has to be your way

01:02:09you know what i mean your way might doesn't make any damn sense but it's your way even if you

01:02:13there's nothing logical yep nothing exactly it's like this pile of clothes you're lucky i did not

01:02:17reorganize this bookshelf i can't imagine what you're feeling in this room it's only in my own

01:02:22space okay that makes me feel good never in someone else's ever who is the first to usually

01:02:26apologize if you guys are coming back from a fight probably aj yeah ali i don't even remember

01:02:33the last time you said i'm sorry yeah yeah i'm not good at saying she does not apologize yeah that's

01:02:37okay no but you're you said you're usually lightly starting it and then you're ending it yes love

01:02:42that for you i'm a closer um you guys your new music okay we're here let's talk about it you

01:02:48have

01:02:48a new album coming out and a single the single is coming out on january 10th love what is it

01:02:53called

01:02:54what it feels like we were supposed to do that at the same time but it's fine yeah let's do

01:02:57it

01:02:57again ready okay what is it called what it feels like wait and five six seven eight what it feels

01:03:06like gorgeous gorgeous okay talk to me about this album what is the inspiration behind the music

01:03:12i mean this record feels like it's never been more us obviously every single album you're hoping to

01:03:19achieve you know that 10 better right each time just like you would with like each you know season

01:03:25of the show but i do feel like we've really stepped into like our womanhood on this album

01:03:30and i think part of that is is i think just seeing that this music um has been so informed

01:03:41by our live

01:03:42show and touring and playing songs to a live audience and with our band that we've now been

01:03:48playing with for a few years has really helped us identify okay this is the kind of music we want

01:03:54to put

01:03:54on a record and what we want to then go out and tour so i think it's looking at it

01:03:59from like

01:04:01the live show is the the top of the pyramid and how do we get to the live show um

01:04:07and i think a lot

01:04:08of this music was um created with people that we felt really safe with and was while i was like

01:04:17heavily

01:04:18pregnant i mean i guess we started writing it right before i got pregnant and then really the whole

01:04:23making of this album has been either me pregnant and then delivering and then album is finished and

01:04:28delivered oh my god yes her water broke in like day two of like pre-production at her house at

01:04:34my

01:04:34yeah in the guest room wait at like 6 a.m that's kind of like i was texting with steven

01:04:38it was very

01:04:38it was like what's going on in there he's like i think her water broke i was like what we

01:04:42just

01:04:43started and then i got really nervous thinking ocd i was like she's gonna be pissed because this

01:04:46water is on her bed and on the ground not when it's like your child although that is pretty

01:04:52funny ali's like clean it up get the bags wait oh my god wait okay so how long was the

01:05:01writing

01:05:01process of this album the writing was finished so writing i would say the writing took a solid year

01:05:06yeah yeah before we really were ready to be like these are the 15 songs we want to record

01:05:10we're very like like just maybe just under maybe just under a year yeah this is a hard question

01:05:16what is your favorite song off the album that's hard i'm so happy with this record but i really

01:05:21think my number one is michael's song we wrote it about a really dear friend of ours that we had

01:05:26worked with in the industry for years and he passed away last year and we were like we have to

01:05:31write

01:05:31about this and we were on tour we were on tour during the funeral we weren't able to come our

01:05:35parents came on behalf of us which was really sweet we're really close to his daughter and his

01:05:39wife literally like a long-standing member of the alley and age like the longest running team

01:05:45member yeah for us like you know so it was like it was kind of almost like a father figure

01:05:51oh you

01:05:51know so it was very hard to come to terms with it and then we we felt like this could

01:05:57be a song

01:05:57you know um and it's so specific like when you listen to the song and you read the lyrics you're

01:06:03like oh this is this is very specifically about like the very last time we saw him yeah not knowing

01:06:08of course it would be that it was like our last dinner but i feel like that's such a powerful

01:06:11message because everyone has experienced grief so they'll be able to like transport themselves

01:06:15probably when they're like the last time they saw whoever it was to them that they lost and they

01:06:20what is your favorite honestly it's kind of a tie between two and i think it's because it has to

01:06:27do

01:06:27with my son and then the fact that i was leaving laurel canyon to then live in santa barbara like

01:06:37away

01:06:37from aj and i wrote i basically wrote this song with aj about um like moving into this new house

01:06:44and this new space and it not feeling like a home and feeling like i was kind of like summoning

01:06:49it to

01:06:49be this this place that i felt welcomed in and not not like it had like bad juju or vibes

01:06:55i just was

01:06:56like this isn't perfect and this isn't right and i want to change out this doorknob and my husband was

01:07:00just like okay and i'm like pregnant and like nesting and i'm just like frantic like fix this this

01:07:05needs to be fixed and it just and and i was like you know what this would be a good

01:07:08song like

01:07:10willing this to happen and to make this space uh a home and i really love aj's uh the way

01:07:15she sings

01:07:16the bridge um on on that song um the song's called i don't know what it is and um and

01:07:23i i think that

01:07:24song just whenever i listen to it it's almost kind of healing because i'm finally at a place where the

01:07:28home doesn't feel like a shell yeah like a shell it feels like oh this is a place that has

01:07:33good

01:07:33memories and i associate like my birth and i birthed in this living room right here and this

01:07:38is this wasn't traumatic this was all kind of what i hoped it would be oh um so that's beautiful

01:07:43yeah

01:07:44so i think it's like the the the end story of it is really great but it was very much

01:07:48me struggling to

01:07:49find my identity within the home and then the other song that's like maybe uh equal to that is a

01:07:55song

01:07:55called dandelions which is about jack and we kind of wrote this pre him being yeah born which is crazy

01:08:01so knowing he was coming knowing he was coming and that we wanted him to like have this message

01:08:06of hope and like whatever dreams we're not able to reach he is more than capable of reaching them

01:08:11himself you know that is hopefully each generation reaches more oh my god how crazy and cool that you

01:08:17guys like one day like your son will get to watch you perform a song about him live and listen

01:08:23to it

01:08:23and have it forever like that's such a beautiful gift i mean that is the power of songwriting yeah it

01:08:29really i think the other thing about specifically songwriting and it's funny because i'm learning

01:08:33constantly about music we've actually already written but i'm learning new things about what

01:08:38we've written after the fact like to me when a song takes on a new life but it had a

01:08:42different

01:08:42meaning when you wrote it yes like i don't know what it is now when i listen to that song

01:08:46and i picture

01:08:47your home which you've now created from the ground up as like a beautiful nest i'm like whoa this is

01:08:51so

01:08:52different than how we came at this song writing it thinking we're splitting up his sisters we're no longer

01:08:57going to live in the canyon by each other we're like what are we doing we're going to be torn

01:09:00apart

01:09:00and it's like yeah no we're just shifting into other parts of our life after right now that song

01:09:05is like shows your growth because you're like now your house is a home and now you're so happy and

01:09:09this is what i love how songwriting teaches you something but you wrote it like and a year later

01:09:14you're listening to it differently it's so cool in a way that's really cool it is how songwriting is

01:09:18it is and i think with this record there was so much like feminine energy around it and i think

01:09:23part of

01:09:23that was me being pregnant but then part of that was us just going through the growing pains of like

01:09:28we are getting older and we don't live down the street from each other and we this like we aren't

01:09:33living in our childhood really anymore we're out of that and we're not in our 20s anymore which we

01:09:38just got reminded by an executive yeah yeah literally stop no we went to have a meeting like

01:09:43i'm not getting like a label meeting and they were like last week the the note was like we love

01:09:47the

01:09:47record we think it's amazing but like we're not here to break women in their 30s like we're here to

01:09:51break pop stars i was like so we need to be like 21 or something i was like i'm 35

01:09:55i'm 33 i was like

01:09:56we're still young as hell and i was like now i'm reminded that we're not after the meeting she's

01:10:01like i'm sorry i just i have to kind of like like not after the meeting i had a process

01:10:04after we had

01:10:05heard that it was a no so it was like you know we did the meeting and then it was

01:10:08like you know

01:10:08whatever it was two days later it was like oh a call is coming you know and we're kind of

01:10:13going

01:10:13okay well i want i hope it's like positive and then that was the feedback and he was like i

01:10:17just need to

01:10:17sit with this for a minute because i'm like i've never even thought of myself as not being in the

01:10:21zeitgeist of right and you're also like is the music good or no right like what does that have

01:10:25to do with how old i am and it's like how many times do you think they've said that to

01:10:29a man

01:10:30probably never like we're not trying to break a what i know i know also i'm like we're not horses

01:10:35and yeah yeah you don't need to break us totally and we've broken and also i think part of it

01:10:41was

01:10:42besides you know like you said the the fact that it's maybe not ideal age for breaking an artist

01:10:47whatever in the music industry um i think part of it was also like the album was completed and done

01:10:53they couldn't meddle and change stuff because it's finished it's not like hey here's some demos

01:10:59and they're like oh yes we love track one no to two three and six change this sound and you're

01:11:03like

01:11:03no and they were like you know and we wouldn't maybe go down this route like sonically for you

01:11:07i'm like like us playing music and writing the music like what what do you mean oh yeah it's wild

01:11:12so it was though a blessing that you guys did it on your own and you don't want to work

01:11:16with

01:11:16someone that doesn't want to like doesn't want you in the way you are exactly at right now because

01:11:20clearly you guys said you have other records that you never put out this feels right to you

01:11:25yeah so go with so go right it's it's it's a message that that is very pure and what it

01:11:31is

01:11:31there's no like a gimmick behind it so they're not like oh i can like it's harder to sell yeah

01:11:36it's

01:11:36harder to sell something because they're like what's the shtick and it's like but just we're

01:11:39sisters we play music we write we've been doing this since we were young but i think that's like

01:11:42the best part about you guys like i have to say growing up and listening to you guys you have

01:11:49such incredible voices but hearing you perform live at my tour i remember like pinching my best

01:11:55friend lauren being like their voices are so beautiful like literally you guys have like such

01:12:01incredible voices and what i appreciate about you guys and about this album is actually more like

01:12:06that it is real it is obvious when people have not written their music and when they're told to

01:12:12wear the certain thing and look the certain way just kind of like you guys are describing you would

01:12:15go into meetings and you feel people trying to shift and mold you into something that you're not

01:12:20and i think if people are looking for something in their life music wise that's actually going to

01:12:26connect them to the real shit that they're going through this is more of the album i think like

01:12:31people right now are more interested in than maybe who knows no but sure you can love pop but like

01:12:36i

01:12:37really think that you guys are connecting to something that people are loving which is authenticity

01:12:41so it's exactly what your show i mean yeah and i feel like people gravitate towards that you know

01:12:46yes that's why this show works like it's authentic to the truth you can tell women you talk and how

01:12:52we feel and how we communicate you knew that was a missing piece yes yeah was it really going on

01:12:57i think

01:12:58it's so exciting to see you guys like back at it and i think it also is such a testament

01:13:02to like

01:13:04your ability to be critical of yourselves to be like we didn't put out certain albums because it

01:13:10didn't feel right and we weren't ourselves and so the fact that like this is all you this was done

01:13:16at a very incredible vulnerable emotional time in both of your lives like i think that the world is

01:13:21going to be so so so excited to hear and they're going to love it so i'm so excited for

01:13:25you guys

01:13:26you are so lovely as human beings i know we haven't spent that much time together but like

01:13:30i feel like i now know you guys enough to be like you guys are real ones so thank you

01:13:34so much for

01:13:34taking the time during the holidays and coming and sitting down with me you guys are the best

01:13:38happy new year you could be a little oh i'm putting it on you're an honorary you're the young

01:13:43we look like we're related you're the youngest sister you are you are coming i'm coming in i'm

01:13:47going to put it on love you guys love you too

01:13:48you

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