00:00So there are a number of areas that we need to look at.
00:03Kemi has already announced that the two-child benefit cap that was reintroduced, sorry, that was scrapped under Labour, needs
00:13to be reviewed.
00:15And the money from that policy needs to be brought into defence and also saved to bring down our government
00:22deficit.
00:23Now, that's just one area that we need to look at. But there are other areas across welfare spending that
00:29we need to have a hard conversation with the public about.
00:32But we also need to talk about the size of the state. So if we look at the Ministry of
00:36Defence, we have 55,000 Ministry of Defence civil servants.
00:40And I'm a former public sector worker for a period of time. I've worked with many fantastic MOD civil servants.
00:47But when you have 55,000 MOD civil servants and you can't get a fully functional destroyer out to defend
00:54a sovereign base area in Cyprus, as we've seen in recent months, the equation doesn't really work.
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