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A significant political transition is underway in Karnataka as Chief Minister Siddaramaiah officially steps down following directives from the party high command.
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00:01Namaskara this is the throne of power in Karnataka and guess what there's a new claimant new chief
00:07minister who will be seated here in the seat of power in Karnataka. Namaskara you're joining us
00:12on the special broadcast of Super 6 I'm Akshita Nandakopal and over the next one hour we'll tell
00:17you all that's happened in the next few hours so much so that Karnataka is getting a new chief
00:22minister. Sidra Maya has officially stepped down as the chief minister the next few days it's all
00:27about DKS Sarkara what will it look like who will be part of the cabinet and when will DK Shiv
00:33Kumar
00:33take oath I'll get you all of those details even as the political fight is playing out over all the
00:39developments that we've seen Sidra Maya has stepped aside and is making his way to Delhi DK Shiv Kumar
00:45is also headed to Delhi later today but we've got all the inside details now of what the DK Sarkara
00:51will look like and importantly what the swearing in ceremony will be like given now a fact now clearly
00:57as we told you on India today many days ago that it is going to be DK Shiv Kumar as
01:01the next chief
01:02minister of Karnataka so all those details coming your way in just a bit with the best team of
01:07reporters who've been tracking all the latest twists and turns in this Karnataka political thriller safe
01:12to say we've reached the final chapter now it's a question of the next 24 hours what pans out and
01:18the
01:18official acceptance of Sidra Maya's resignation by the governor expected later tonight we'll get you all of those
01:24details here on this edition of super six we'll begin with the headlines first
01:37emotional Sidra Maya steps down as Karnataka chief minister stage set for DK Sarkara and Karnataka
01:44sources say DK Sarkara's old ceremony likely by Sunday in front of Vidant Sauda big scoop on new DKS cabinet
01:55sources
01:56say Sidra Maya's son Yatindra likely to be inducted into the cabinet both DKS and Sidhu to be in Delhi
02:01tonight no clarity yet no clarity yet a number of deputy CM's or who it will be
02:11Vijay leaves from Delhi without meeting Rahul Gandhi meets Prime Minister Modi and Finance Minister Nirmala Sitaraman
02:18sources say Vijay wanted to meet the Gandhi's but now meet has been postponed till June
02:28just hours after Madhya Pradesh High Court cancels bail CBI arrest Visha's mother-in-law Kiribala Singh
02:34High Court has cancelled bail citing non-cooperation and the heinous nature of the offence
02:45Education Minister Dharmendra Pradhan targets Rahul Gandhi says Rahul opposed SIR EVMs and Digital India
02:51Center takes responsibility and assures stern action appeals against raising students mental stress
03:03and Shuvendu's Bakridae Gopuja Bengal CM at Iskong Temple after banning cow slaughter on Bakrida
03:09Shuvendu sends a loud message that there will be no namaz at Kolkata's popular red road
03:42Let's cut across to breaking news that's coming in right now on this broadcast details emerging of the swearing and
03:48ceremony that will take place on Sunday we're hearing in
03:51guess where right where I'm standing at the Vidant Sauda along the staircase the entrance of the Vidant Sauda the
03:57most iconic
03:58landmark really in Bengaluru that's where you're going to see the swearing and ceremony of DK Shriv Kumar history in
04:05the making in Karnataka and here's the information we're picking up yes it will be a grand ceremony yes you're
04:10going to see all Congress chief ministers being invited as well so it's going to be a big show of
04:16strength by Congress if all goes according to plan then you'll see VD Satishan you'll see Revant Reddy you'll see
04:21Sukku you could see Vijay also being a part of the swearing and ceremony here in Bengaluru
04:28right now as we speak DK Shriv Kumar is headed to Delhi as well and DK Shriv Kumar will be
04:34meeting with the high command Sidramaya already has left for the national capital
04:38I'll bring in Sagai, Sagai just join me and we'll speak on the same mic just give us a sense
04:43of what you're picking up right now on the swearing and ceremony now with everything else taken care of I
04:48think we can focus on the weekend we can focus on the big bang event that's expected
04:52absolutely and everything will start after the CLP meeting tomorrow what we get to learn through our sources is that
04:57there might be a CLP meeting in one of the five star hotels here in Bengaluru and where the official
05:01announcement will be made and that's tomorrow for sure
05:03yeah most probably tomorrow and after that all preparation will start here on the grand stage of Vidana Souda last
05:11time it was H.D. Kumar Swami who took oath here and it was a show of solidarity when all
05:17UPA alliance at that point of time it was a UPA alliance where everybody came together but for that particular
05:22event Sonia Gandhi, Maya Wathi, Kamal Haasan, Stalin everybody were present and probably after that particular event the next chief
05:30minister is DK Shriv Kumar if he takes oath here on the grand stage
05:33is he looking to have an event like what HDK had had back then because we understand he's calling Congress
05:38chief ministers is there going to be a further outreach to maybe the India bloc leaders maybe a Vijay maybe
05:44Akhilesh Yadav what are you hearing what we get to learn through our sources is that when Keralam oath taking
05:50ceremony happened at that point of time he has already extended an invitation to them he had anticipated that all
05:56this development will happen probably in one or two weeks he said that get prepared for the next oath taking
06:00ceremony in Bengaluru
06:02and now it is coming true and now it is coming true and he is going to Delhi to invite
06:07most of the leaders and thereafter he is already in talks with all the chief ministers of state inviting them
06:12for taking ceremony.
06:14You know there is a clear market change in DK Shriv Kumar's body language if before he ignored the media
06:20completely he was on his phone refused to really interact with any of the journalists.
06:24Today when he was exiting from Sidra Maya's residence after Sidra Maya's briefing when I looked at him and he
06:30was making his way out he simply put his hand out waved he had his windows down he smiled and
06:35that by itself is a breakthrough remarkably because the last many days DK Shriv Kumar has been so quiet perhaps
06:41from directors from the high command but irrespective has refused to show any emotions of happiness or excitement but now
06:48it's all coming down to the swear against ceremony he can afford to breathe a sigh of relief now because
06:53all the decks
06:54Akshita cleared for him to be the next chief minister Apoorva Jai Chandran is joining us live from DK Shriv
06:59Kumar's residence in Sadashiv Nagar in Bengaluru Apoorva now he is the next chief minister and so I am sure
07:05there is a huge amount of security there we already saw all of the protocol that is extended to the
07:09chief minister being extended to DK Shriv Kumar but runners through the latest updates is DK still at his residence
07:15he is expected to leave I am hearing on a 740 flight.
07:22Well that's right Akshita in fact DK Shriv Kumar is still at his residence in fact just a couple of
07:28minutes ago we did see that there is a lot of you know preparations that are being done out here
07:33in fact if you can just see by the sheer amount of police who have been put out here since
07:39this morning as well you can see that things are decidedly getting real.
07:43You are seeing that barricades have been put up on each side of his residence there to ensure that the
07:49press gets a separate box there is also a box for the public and as well police and the barricades
07:55that are being set up here.
07:56But interestingly DK Shriv Kumar has refrained from making any statements to the public or the media in fact even
08:03as you know he had arrived here just after this meeting and the press meet that Sidramaya had had the
08:10chief minister of Karnataka DK Shriv Kumar came out here and all he did was he looked at the cameras
08:16he looked at the media he just said namaskara and he went inside with a you know a smile on
08:22his face.
08:22It looks like DK Shriv Kumar finally realizing that his dream that he had you know wanted was finally materializing
08:30and he will be the next chief minister of Karnataka.
08:34Sidramaya also backing him personally you know stating to the MLA's there in the breakfast meet does you know definitely
08:41add a big boost for DK Shriv Kumar himself because you know he has been someone who has looked up
08:47to Sidramaya who has looked up to the kind of politician the kind of leader the kind of chief minister
08:51that Sidramaya has been.
08:52And definitely in the optics as well very clearly in the optics you know DK Shriv Kumar ensured that he
08:59didn't speak today it was all about Sidramaya and that was messaging that today is a day to celebrate the
09:04legacy of Sidramaya right up until now when you know you're now getting the details of the swearing in ceremony
09:09of the celebration that it will be when DK Shriv Kumar takes over as the chief minister.
09:13I'll bring in Anagar Keshiv for the latest updates as well Anagar a big question mark right now on the
09:18timeline is simply because the governor is yet to accept the resignation of Sidramaya.
09:23Is that expected by tonight or could there be some hurdles there you know Sidramaya in his press conference constantly
09:29said that the norm is for the governor to go ahead and accept my resignation.
09:38Well in fact there's not going to be quite a smooth transition the governor himself has confirmed to India today
09:46that as soon as he comes he's going to accept the resignation so I really don't see any hurdle on
09:50that front.
09:51As soon as soon as soon as he lands in Bengaluru he's going to reach the Lokmavan where he'll formally
09:55accept the resignation handed over by Sidramaya and post which DK Shriv Kumar will have to prove that he has
10:03the signatures of majority of MLA's and then can he seek an appointment for the oath taking ceremony.
10:08So while the governor comes to Bengaluru DK Shriv Kumar is flying out of Bengaluru he's going to Delhi Sidramaya
10:15is also going to Delhi we believe he's almost landed in Delhi where he will be meeting with Rahul Gandhi
10:22and thanking him and also politely declining the Rajya Sabha offer.
10:25DK is also going to be there also thanking Rahul Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi for giving him this opportunity where
10:31we can expect a formal announcement possibly that will be made by the Congress High Command in a joint press
10:36meet.
10:40Okay so Anaka Apoorva thanks for those details what we're going to see in the next few hours is those
10:45meetings with the High Command interestingly Rahul Gandhi and KC Venu Gopal are right now meeting with Malik Arjun Kharge
10:51not really sure if it has to do with Karnataka because clearly the High Command has managed to very deftly
10:56handle the situation in Karnataka.
10:59They've managed to ensure that there is no rebellion no factualism none of that it's all come together very very
11:04smoothly.
11:05They've managed to control both sides and ensure that what they want they've gotten and as smoothly as possible.
11:11Both Sidramaya and DK Shriv Kumar always said what the High Command says we will do no drama no fuss
11:17whatsoever and that's what's played out that exactly what the High Command wanted has happened.
11:22Let me just run you through the big developments that have happened today in this particular story a lot that's
11:27taken place in the last few hours that's changed the political landscape of Karnataka.
11:31And I'm not exaggerating when I say that let's get you all off the big headlines of the day as
11:36far as Karnataka is concerned.
11:44Sidramaya flanked by DK Shriv Kumar, Jeeb Parameshara and Congress MLAs put up a massive show of strength after the
11:50press conference where Sidramaya announced formally his resignation as Chief Minister.
12:00Sidramaya and D.K. Shriv Kumar went together to the Governor's office in Lok Bhavan where Sidramaya attended his resignation.
12:05The Governor is out of town so the resignation was handed over to the Governor's Secretary.
12:18A visibly emotional Sidramaya thanked his cabinet colleagues for standing by him over the years while also reflecting on his
12:24political journey.
12:25Several ministers were visibly moved as Sidramaya expressed his gratitude.
12:34Tensions spilled onto the streets in Karnataka's Raichur district as Kuruba community leader staged protests over Sidramaya's resignation.
12:48The Karnataka power transition appeared all but official on camera.
12:52Sidramaya and DK Shriv Kumar exchanged smiles as well as a firm handshake after the crucial breakfast meeting.
12:58The warm exchange between the two Congress heavyweights seen as a symbolic transfer of power.
13:09A dramatic political moment played out at Chief Minister Sidramaya's residence in Bengaluru where D.K. Shriv Kumar met the
13:17Chief Minister.
13:18D.K. Shriv Kumar was seen touching Sidramaya's feet later embracing him with a hug showcasing the mutual respect they
13:23have for each other.
13:32Yatindra Sidramaya's son of Chief Minister Sidramaya will be inducted into the new D.K. Shriv Kumar cabinet marking a
13:38significant milestone in the political leader's career to carry on the legacy of his father.
14:07D.K. Shriv Kumar
14:08Okay, let's get you a sense really now of what Sidramaya is expecting.
14:12He's not going to sit quiet.
14:13Sure, you know, he said very clearly he doesn't want to Rajasabasi, but there are still demands being put forth
14:18to the Congress high command.
14:19And today when he meets them, today or early tomorrow morning, that communication will go through.
14:25First of a cabinet post for his son, Yatindra Sidramaya, and that's very clear, he's an MLC right now.
14:31Yatindra will be promoted to get a ministry.
14:34The question is which one?
14:35In all likelihood it's going to be either industries or water resources, both extremely influential and powerful portfolios.
14:43Besides that, Sidramaya has also pushed that 15 of his supporters are brought into the cabinet.
14:49Now, we're not sure just yet if he's also named who he wants, but if he ensures that 16 of
14:55his aides, his supporters are in the cabinet,
14:57that means he'll still have a fair say on exactly what's going to happen in the Sarkara, in the government.
15:03Plum posts for close aides is also another demand that Sidramaya has put forth right now,
15:09saying essentially that he wants adequate representation.
15:12And Saga, I'm just going to quickly bring you in on that.
15:15Is Sidramaya trying to still ensure that he's relevant in Karnataka?
15:19Look, he's a very tall leader, rich, rich legacy.
15:21But when he said no to a Rajya Sabha seat, that means effectively he only remains in MLA now in
15:26Karnataka.
15:27By these steps and these demands that he's putting forth,
15:30is he ensuring therefore that he has some say in how the government functions?
15:34Absolutely, because when he refuses to take Rajya Sabha and a national role,
15:37definitely he will play a crucial role.
15:39And you have to use his expertise, whether it is finance or water resource or administration.
15:46He is one of the tallest leaders who have all the experience.
15:50And as you rightly pointed out, probably he will be monitoring how the government is functioning.
15:54And it is like a checkmate for DK Shukumar.
15:56Ensure that you are doing the administration properly or else there is a person who is going to monitor you.
16:02He might be another watchdog for him.
16:04Because more than BJP, you need to keep an eye on Siddharamia.
16:09Internal rival.
16:09Of course, that is easy.
16:11Handling external politics is easy.
16:13Handling internal politics is a big task.
16:16And if you talk to any of the leaders, they will be saying that everything is good between us.
16:20But when you have a cup of tea off the camera, you will understand what they have to speak about
16:23the other person.
16:24That's when the real picture of the politics comes.
16:26That's when the internal politics is even more stronger, even more problematic for the leaders than compared to the external.
16:34External one, you can easily say BJP is alleging that JDS is doing that.
16:37But how are you going to handle the internal politics?
16:39If you are a winner out of this, then you become a chief minister of Karnataka.
16:44That's what DK Shukumar has clearly managed to do.
16:46Let's listen into what Siddharamia said today in what was considered to be his farewell press conference.
16:51He spoke of the accomplishments, but also highlighted why he's resigned.
16:55As we told you on India Today, it was a result of the High Command communicating to him that it's
16:59time for DK Shukumar.
17:16Thank you very much.
17:31In your example, the highиковers of Karnataka had a time for him, and he was a woman who had one
17:39day.
17:39In the Middle East, there have been one time for him, including one time for him.
17:53In the Middle East, it was a woman who had one time for him.
17:57In the Middle East, he said to the Middle East and the Middle East.
17:58He said to the Upper East and the Middle East and he was there,
17:59But you can't see him that too.
17:59That is the first thing that the people who have been given to the Lord is the one who has
18:19been given to the Lord.
18:30Okay, let's open this up. We're right now at the Vidhan Sauda and we've brought our panelists
18:38with us here to give you a sense of what's really happening and what they make of all
18:42the developments in the last few hours. We have Mr. Ravi Srivastava here with us and
18:46we have Mr. Anand Gurmurthy of the BJP. Namaskar to both of you. Thank you. We appreciate
18:50the fact that you've come all the way to the Vidhan Sauda to join us. You can see quite
18:54a bit of crowd is gathered here today because it's a holiday and so people have gathered
18:58to catch a glimpse of the Vidhan Sauda. We're a part of the entertainment too. But Mr. Srivastava,
19:02to you first, what do you make of this move, sir? Good move. The D.K. Shiv Kumar is the
19:06Chief Minister next. Wonderful. It's a smooth power transition, as you mentioned, that no
19:12bickerings, no street protest, no love lost between both the leaders. You have seen both
19:19of them eating idli, vada, dosa, kejari baat and all that, breakfast meetings, lunch meetings,
19:25everything was going on so well. And that's how the politics should work. There should not
19:32be a specter that people feel that there are differences between two people and they both
19:38behaved in a very, very matured manner. This is what is the outcome of this before he takes
19:44the oath and all that. Yeah, we'll get to that. But Anand Gurmurthy, would you concede
19:48that, you know, the Congress seems to be very different for Congress that we know of. The
19:53last few weeks, Tamil Nadu taking the decision of leaving the DMK, joining TVK, you're in power
19:58there. Keralam, difficult decision, KC, Veni Koppal, Vedi, Satishan, they chose the man
20:02who the people love. People's sentiment, that one. Here, a promise that they had made, couldn't
20:07live up to for the last few months. They decided to go ahead and do it, bring in D.K.
20:11Shiv Kumar.
20:12So will you concede, it's been very smooth, no rebellion, no drama?
20:15All this is, you know, optics. Basically, the CM who resigned, Mr. Sidra Mahia, told that
20:20it's high command who told me I left. Something like this he told. But all this is optics.
20:24Basically, what we see is, from the last three years, we have seen that Karnataka finances
20:29have been in shambles. Okay, and people are complaining. On-ground reports clearly say that
20:34Karnataka itself is not doing any development. In fact, the administration is poor. The law and order
20:39has, you know, gone to shambles. And everything, every other aspect of administration is not
20:44being taken care of by the entire cabinet.
20:47But you had Sidra Mahia today speak of the per capita income, speak of GSDP, speak of so
20:52many other aspects to say Karnataka is doing great.
20:55These are none of the achievements of the current Chief Minister. It's the past history of Karnataka.
20:59Karnataka has been a great state physically. Okay, he has used that.
21:02Karnataka can do better if not for the central government. Wait a second. He always points
21:06to the central government. And that is the reason why he could not sit on that chair anymore.
21:11The reason is, so many things, burning issues, and the heat has started on the CM's chair.
21:16Now, today it's not CM's chair. It's actually Dawan Gere Benne Do Se Tawa it is. He can sit
21:21no more, so he has got up. And the next man who sits there, he has to sit there immediately.
21:25And, you know, start fixing these problems. Ask the people of Bengaluru who are standing behind.
21:30What about the roads? How the roads are? Ask them about the garbage problem.
21:34Ask the farmers, okay, whose cattle, you know, died because of heat and water supply was a problem.
21:39Ask the, you know, farmers why, you know, dam gates are falling off. Okay, there's no maintenance.
21:44There's no development, there's no maintenance. And they talk of big projects.
21:48Like, you know, Queen City to every other big project of having big, big tunnel roads.
21:52While they don't, they have no Naya paisa in their pocket.
21:55And this is the state that have bought Karnataka too. And that is the reason why CM has got up.
22:00It's Dawan Gere Benne Do Se Tawa and he can sit no more.
22:03Mr. Srivastava, would you agree that there's Benne Dosa being made on the CM throne.
22:07That's why it's been handed over. It's a Tawa now.
22:09Mr. Guruburthy gave a big report card of Mr. Siddharabhaya's government.
22:14I concede to him to the extent that last five year tenor of Siddharabhaya was far better than this one.
22:22The present one, which is now completing three years.
22:25Why? Why? What's the challenge?
22:25No, the challenge is this time, I don't know right from the beginning.
22:29Well, first of all, let me ask about the achievements of Siddharabhaya.
22:33There have been no communal tensions practically in the last three years in Karnataka.
22:38I think that's a big deal.
22:39Another thing is that he has fulfilled five guarantees.
22:45Giving a big jolt to the balance sheet, that's okay.
22:49But then he has…
22:50That's okay, sir?
22:51No, I mean that happens everywhere.
22:54It is not a…
22:54Government of India is also under 255 lakh growth.
22:57Sure, sure. I agree.
22:58So it's no big deal for Siddharabhaya.
23:00So I think he has fulfilled his promises as much he could.
23:03And we can definitely expect far, far better things to happen when Shiv Kumar takes over.
23:09So you think TK Shiv Kumar will be a better CM than Siddharabhaya?
23:11I'm not saying that exactly.
23:13But what I'm saying is Shiv Kumar is a man Friday for the Congress.
23:16He has been a hanuman for the Congress for, you know, sorting out so many quarrels.
23:22You must have seen the Himachal Pradesh, Rajasthan, etc., etc.
23:26He is a sought-after man.
23:28And that is why I expect that he will have a better rapport with the central leadership of Congress.
23:37And then he'll be able to do well.
23:39Because all these three years, that drama of push-pull was going on,
23:44and which was affecting the overall governance and the administration.
23:47So now, Mr. Guru Murthy, and I know that the BJP has constantly said,
23:50enough of this drama.
23:51Name one.
23:52Why is the Congress High Command unable to name one?
23:54They've named.
23:55D.K. Shiv Kumar is taking over.
23:57So is the BJP finally saying, okay, you've taken a decision?
24:00It doesn't matter to us which congressman sits on the hot tawa.
24:03Okay, what I'm trying to tell is very clear.
24:06Sir told no communal tensions.
24:07Mandia, you ask them, hundreds of people have been arrested,
24:11because of that Mandia constituency,
24:13what problem happened during Ganesha procession.
24:15Lot of communal disputes have happened.
24:17In fact, if you see, the police is not at all functioning,
24:21because of which you can see wheelie drivers everywhere.
24:23Okay, and it's not about, you know, not just communal tensions.
24:26Law and order has gone to dogs.
24:28And we have to see that.
24:29Policemen have become security guards for these congressmen.
24:31And we have to see that as people of Karnataka,
24:33we never saw such lax administration in the past history of Karnataka.
24:37Our police were always very good.
24:39Okay, they have been made, you know,
24:41come a notch or ten notches down by this government.
24:44Then the second thing what you asked, okay,
24:45now that, you know, he's taken over,
24:47what will be the scenario of, you know, D.K. Shukumar?
24:50We don't have any hopes in any congressmen left,
24:52because they are the same.
24:53They just fight every day.
24:55They fight for power.
24:56Today, Sidramaya, I mean, D.K. Shukumar was trying for that seat.
24:59Tomorrow someone else or even Sidramaya will, you know,
25:01do something to that seat.
25:03That's all will happen with congress in Karnataka.
25:05The High Command is addressing it.
25:06They're dealing with it.
25:07The High Command themselves, you know,
25:08are not being cared for anywhere.
25:10Okay, you see any state, okay,
25:12in Kerala they took almost a month's time to make a decision.
25:1511 days. No, no, 11 days.
25:16No, no, no, even before, even before in the election day.
25:20No, no, no, no, no, no.
25:21In BJ, you see in West Bengal how much time it took.
25:24You see in UP how much time it took.
25:26See, this is not the way every party functions, okay.
25:31But inside the Congress party, it is always like this.
25:34During, okay, tell me the reasons.
25:36If Sidramaya talked about his achievements,
25:39he talked about it for an hour about his achievements.
25:41If he was such an achiever, why did he leave the seat?
25:44As I said, there are burning issues.
25:45The seat is so hot, he cannot sit no more.
25:48Let me just take a look.
25:49And before I bring this to you, Mr. Srivastava,
25:51let's also focus on really the challenges that lie ahead
25:55for DK Shiv Kumar right now.
25:57There are a number of challenges that he will immediately
26:00have to look at the moment he takes over as Chief Minister.
26:03This is no walk in the park.
26:05Yes, the political challenge has been taken care of,
26:07but there's a lot more that will happen now going forward.
26:10So let's break down for you the big political test
26:12for DK Shiv Kumar right now.
26:14First is, of course, that at a time when the Congress
26:17High Command has picked you, what it also means on the
26:20caste arithmetic front is that he will have to go ahead
26:23and consolidate the Vokaliga base.
26:25Besides that, he's also got to balance the Vokaliga,
26:29Ahinda equation.
26:30The fact that you've got Ahinda grouping now quite miffed up by the fact that Sidramayi has been removed
26:36and nobody from their group has in fact been chosen as the next Chief Minister.
26:41They've made it very obvious, they've made it very clear that they are upset.
26:44And so he'll have to balance that particular equation.
26:48Lingayat expectations as well, considering that that's something that the BJP has always managed for the Congress.
26:53They've made inroads, yes, but they'll want to kind of dominate as far as the Lingayat vote is concerned.
26:58Managing loyalists of Sidramayi camp, especially when Sidramayi has been saying,
27:02I want 15 of my aides in the Cabinet, which means Sidramayi is trying to ensure that he has self
27:07-control
27:08over how the government even now will function under DK Shiv Kumar.
27:11DK Shiv Kumar will have to ensure that they are loyalists very much to him as well
27:15and that they are answerable to him. Cabinet and portfolio distribution is where it'll all come down to.
27:21Right now everything seems hunky-dory that the High Command has solved this particular issue
27:25but wait for the Cabinet expansion or the names of the portfolios being distributed.
27:30That's when you'll see each side really playing and bargaining it for ensuring that the top portfolios come to them.
27:37Then, of course, there is dealing with the likes of the JDS and the BJP.
27:41Sidramayi has been very aggressive in how he's dealt with these parties.
27:45What will be DK Shiv Kumar's challenge?
27:47If you look at it right now, Mr. Srivastava, there will be questions being asked.
27:51Sidramayi said, I don't want a national rule. I want to still focus on politics at Karnataka.
27:55So, will he essentially be calling the shots, pulling the strings back door?
27:59Because the Congress High Command is going to say, look, he stepped aside and, you know, didn't throw any tantrum,
28:05no drama.
28:06Let's give him what he wants. Let's give him 15 of his aides in the Cabinet. That's a tough one
28:10then for DK.
28:10Yeah, you rightly said it. Because I think this was a deal that Mr. Sidramayi will take over a national
28:17role going into the Rajya Sabha
28:19and that nomination ending there on 9th of June. So, they wanted to settle it down.
28:24But I don't think that Mr. Sidramayi is really going to fall for that Rajya Sabha and all that because
28:30he wants his grip on this government as well.
28:34You rightly said that, you know, 15 or 16 members, he wants his son to be a Cabinet Minister. All
28:40those things are there.
28:41Because he has been into the Karnataka politics for the last two decades, 20 years. In 2006 when he was
28:48sacked by Mr. Devay Gowda, he has been in the Karnataka politics.
28:53And he has been the longest serving Chief Minister of Karnataka, right? And he has just done some thousand days
29:00and all. I think this is all a history.
29:02But he would not like to lose his grip on the Karnataka politics. That is certain.
29:09Would you argue then that that's a good thing, Mr. Guruburthy? You will now have twin covenants in Karnataka.
29:15DK Shrif Kumar is Chief Minister. Before this was Chief Minister, Deputy Chief Minister. Now Sidramayi will still call the
29:21shots in some way or the other. So, he will be watching.
29:24See, when Sidramayi was the Chief Minister and he was the Deputy Chief Minister, he was also in charge of
29:29Bengaluru. What did he do about garbage crisis? He told the garbage mafia is not, you know, something I can
29:35manage.
29:35This is what DK Shrif Kumar told. Now what will he do now? Let us see what he does. Okay?
29:39See, this is the same person who was a DCM. Okay? And he was in charge of Bengaluru. And we
29:45see Bengaluru in shambles.
29:46Now what do we expect? See, the citizens are asking the same question. What do we expect from these two?
29:50They are nothing but the two faces of the same coin. Okay? There is no change coming in.
29:55What did BJP accomplish for Bengaluru?
29:57See, this is where you have to see the entire history of whatever governance we had. And if you see
30:03some of the roads that are widened during the period of Yedirappa in his first stint. Okay? And the second
30:07stint. And during the Corona management that happened.
30:10Then the hospitals that were, you know, the KC General which was improved. And then whatever improvements you see around
30:16in Bengaluru with respect to, you know, traffic management and other things.
30:19These are all achieved during, you see. But you have to hold. And the best thing is Sakala. Sakala. It
30:25was done during BJP time. Metro, Metro, wait a second.
30:28All the politicians over the last 30 years who have ruled Bengaluru, responsible irrespective of the party, all the 28
30:35MLAs of Bengaluru city over the last 30 years have bled on their hands for the crumbling infrastructure.
30:39It's not BJP, Congress or JDS. All of them have bled on.
30:43I'm not going to take this because let me, let me answer that. As a BJP spokesperson, let me answer
30:46that. See, the Metro. Okay? How much of Metro was developed during that time?
30:49Even you see the Metro project, their share, they don't give in time. Okay? And what about other, you know,
30:55suburban things?
30:55They blame the central government. They say central government is not too long enough for the development of Bengaluru.
30:58See, there is a very clear demarcation. Okay? The finance ministry in central government, after the state pays its share,
31:06it will not even wait for 24 hours.
31:08The central share will be deposited. Everything is being done as per the rules of the pot. And here, here,
31:15if you see the other, other thing. Okay?
31:16See, this is a very generic statement saying that, okay, all the MLAs are responsible. This is, this is like,
31:21you know, spreading the rita everywhere. No, that's totally wrong.
31:24Nothing changed, sir. Nothing changed. Let's be very clear. I've come to Bengaluru so many times, every time I'm stuck
31:29in a jam, every time the roads are bad, nothing changed.
31:32Mr. Anand, we have reported ourselves about the floods during the BJP regime. We have done the same what we
31:38have been reporting about Congress government.
31:40Yes, that is very good. That is very good what you are doing. No, no, no. Nothing has changed in
31:43Bengaluru city.
31:43Mr. Anand, I'm not, I'm not saying what, what are the, the metro, the road, this and that. What I'm
31:48saying, the communal tension during the five years of the BJP rule in Karnataka was beyond any comprehension.
32:05There was no communal tension. There was no communal tension. There was no communal tension during BJP.
32:09But what about the, what about the rights that happened during the Ganesha procession? Why don't you talk about it?
32:14You're not interested in that, talking about that.
32:15See, during every government, there have been, there have been some issues, okay. For example, sir, wait a second, wait
32:22a second, wait a second.
32:23Wait a second, wait a second. Ask some of them are ministers and know. Some of them are ministers and
32:28know. Okay, in Congress government.
32:29I just want to ask you one more thing. Okay, he, he, he talked about the tension. Okay, what about
32:33the caste tensions because of all these caste surveys and other things Mr. Sidra Maya is doing?
32:37Did he give an end to that? Before going away, his seat was burning, it had become downgraded and he
32:43ran away.
32:43The central government has ordered for a caste census right now. See, that is, that is, see, I'm not telling,
32:47I'm not telling, I'm not telling, I'm not telling.
32:48See, wait a second, don't, don't point, just like you're pointing towards the central government. No, no, no.
32:52See, as the chief minister, one second, one second, let me answer that. As the chief minister, he had taken
32:58up a cause.
32:58He has spent hundreds of crores of taxpayers' money. Is he not responsible?
33:04My point, my point. Our infrastructure in Bangaluru is bursting at all. No, no, wait a second, wait a second.
33:08We talk about the caste politics. He is answerable. He is answerable. He is answerable to the people of Karnataka.
33:16He spent so much of caste, caste census, divided the people on caste lines. What is the end result?
33:21We are going to give the census report. See, caste census is needed. All that is acceptable.
33:26But why didn't he give a report? Where did they burn the money? That's what I'm asking.
33:30The government, the Congress government is still very much there, sir.
33:32No, no, no, no, wait a second, wait a second, wait a second.
33:36Wait a second, wait a second. When this was happening, in their cabinet there was a division on the caste
33:41census.
33:41There were divisions on the caste census. He has reported on that. Ask him about that.
33:45Okay, so this is something which is going to burn. As I said, the government is a very normal thing.
33:51It does happen.
33:52No, no, no, no. It is not a difference. I'm not telling, I'm not telling, okay, difference of opinion.
33:57There, what are, I'm talking about, what are they concluding? They are laying foundation stones.
34:02So many foundation stones they have laid in 1990s. We are completing in India.
34:06And you people are watching it. You people are reporting it on a daily basis.
34:09Tell them to complete something. Metro Rail, if it is not completed, we are going to support 1.5 crore
34:14people in Bangalore.
34:15All over India. And what are they doing? They are doing, you know, strikes everywhere.
34:18They are, you know, trying to divide people. So this is what I am questioning.
34:22Okay, so let's see if D.K. Shiv Kumar fulfills those promises.
34:25You've given a long list, Mr. Gurumurthy, of what you expect now from D.K. Shiv Kumar.
34:28I just want to cut across to breaking news coming in.
34:31He's going to have to hit the ground running very clearly.
34:33But details emerging once again of this wedding and ceremony.
34:36When will D.K. Shiv Kumar officially become the Chief Minister of Karnataka?
34:40Naga, do you want to give us those dates?
34:42Our three dates have been finalized. That's 31st, 1st and the 3rd. And these are the auspicious days for Mr.
34:47That's Sunday, Monday and Wednesday.
34:51So these three dates, he's travelling to Delhi right now.
34:55He'll meet the party, High Command and extend, talk about the CLP first.
34:58And then unofficially we all know that he's going to become the Chief Minister.
35:01And maybe he'll extend an invite also to them for the oath-taking ceremony.
35:05And he's going to discuss these dates with them because it's the auspicious time dates that his astrologists have given
35:10him.
35:10His family has consulted the astrologists.
35:1231st, 1st and the 3rd is the dates. I think he will choose 31st as soon as possible.
35:17Because he doesn't want to leave the chair quite empty.
35:19It's not just a fresh selection later that this is happening.
35:21It's mid-term in a sense.
35:22Three years later, Sidramaya has vacated the chair.
35:24So it's not like there is scope for more time.
35:27He has to sit in the chair right now.
35:29And most likely 31st will be the date.
35:31Okay.
35:31It would happen right behind us on the grand steps of the Vidant Saddam.
35:35Like HTT?
35:35Yes.
35:36In 2018 that happened.
35:37So it's going to be a grand one.
35:39All Congress Chief Minister, as Naga told us, are also being invited.
35:43Does that mean allies?
35:45Allies?
35:45And you know why I'm asking the question.
35:46Allies not yet decided.
35:47I'm sure they'll extend invitation to everyone.
35:50But Sukhvinder Sukku from Himachal British, Revan Threaty, VD Satishin,
35:54all three definitely on board and most likely will be coming in on the same stage
35:58to share the stage and be a part of the oath-taking ceremony
36:01where DK Shiv Kumar and his cabinet colleagues, I'm told that it's just not one person.
36:05There would be several senior ministers on 31st or 1st or 3rd
36:08would be taking both along with DK Shiv Kumar.
36:10Deputy CMs?
36:11That will be discussed tonight as we speak.
36:13That's the meeting.
36:14And I don't know if the meeting right now that's happening at Ten Rajajji,
36:17which is Malik Arjun Kharge's residence, is the Deputy Chief of Karnatka.
36:21Kharge, Rahul Gandhi and KC Vin Gopal have all got into a huddle right now.
36:26We are most likely to do the caste combination, regional combination
36:29as to who should be the Deputy Chief Ministers of Karnatka.
36:31That perhaps Mr. Srivastava could be one of the biggest challenges for the Congress.
36:35You've removed someone who is the tallest OBC leader for the Congress.
36:39And the only OBC Chief Minister in what Congress?
36:44So at that time then it becomes a challenge for the Congress to send out a message
36:48that no we're not against the Ahindas because they're already protesting,
36:51they're already saying why haven't you ensured even if you had to change the Chief Minister
36:54for someone from our group, someone who's a representative of our communities.
36:58Do you think that's the biggest challenge?
36:59I think that the high command is competent enough and they will be definitely working on these…
37:04How much does the high command control what's happening in Karnatka?
37:06These equations would be definitely being worked out.
37:09I think, I'm sure my sources tell me at least there will be two Deputy Chief Ministers with this government.
37:15So those kind of things are going to happen and they will be definitely doing a balancing act
37:20so that, you know, the rest of the two years pass smoothly and the state progresses.
37:26The unfulfilled promises at least can be taken care of.
37:29For the Congress party, someone who represented the 75% of the OBC and the minorities in Karnataka together,
37:35all the micro-communities will have to be taken care of.
37:38Vocal ligas are forward castes in Karnataka.
37:41So if you have that person as the Chief Minister, you need other players to balance out this caste combination
37:48and also regional combination.
37:49D.K. Shukumar comes from the old Mysoregion.
37:51So what about the Hyderabad-Karnataka?
37:53What about the Mumbai-Karnataka region?
37:55So most likely we'll have these two places covered in the Deputy Chief Minister, but D.K. Shukumar doesn't want
38:00it.
38:00He wants one power centre and that's him.
38:03If they get the caste arithmetic right, 2028 is going to be a challenge for you, Mr. Gurmurthy.
38:08Not at all.
38:09You know why?
38:10Whatever caste arithmetic, they get it right, okay?
38:12There are so many problems in the state and the fiscal management itself has gone down by three years.
38:17Okay?
38:17Very bad.
38:18Very bad financial management.
38:19So they have to fix Bengaluru.
38:22They have to fix so many other issues.
38:23And then, and then, there are other issues like the petrol price which is going up.
38:27They are not able to, you know, every other state...
38:28No one second.
38:29Wait a second.
38:29Other states...
38:31Wait, let me answer that.
38:32Are we really talking about fuel prices?
38:34Other states are working out of how to reduce the VAC.
38:36How to ensure the burden...
38:37Nobody has done it.
38:38Nobody has done it.
38:39But we don't even have a government here properly.
38:41We don't even have a CM sitting here properly.
38:43How do you think, how do you think they can work out?
38:44Other...
38:45See, you have to put your brains together for many number of days to come up with such a decision.
38:49Because that's a lot of revenue.
38:50Okay?
38:50And nobody is thinking in Karnataka about the people of Karnataka.
38:53They are just thinking about their children, their cabinet birds, their BCM, their this thing.
38:58They are only worried about their families and other things.
39:01This government.
39:01Okay?
39:01They are not worried about the people of Karnataka.
39:03And that's what I am speaking for.
39:04No, but many would argue Mr. Gurumurthy that the fuel price hike was the result of the
39:07central government.
39:08No, wait a second.
39:08Wait a second.
39:09Central government reduced the VAC by a big notch.
39:11By 10 rupees they reduced.
39:12But they said ultimately for 70 days we controlled it.
39:14Wait a second.
39:14Wait a second.
39:15Other states are also talking about this.
39:17What about our state?
39:18They are talking about who will be the chief minister for the next two years.
39:20They don't even know.
39:21They don't even know.
39:22They are only in 18.
39:23No, no.
39:24That's what I am trying to tell sir.
39:26They are sitting and discussing.
39:27We don't even have a government.
39:28During such a crucial time for the country.
39:30Wait a second.
39:31Wait a second sir.
39:33Such a crucial time for the country.
39:35Everywhere they are worried about things.
39:36And everywhere they are worried about the fertilizer prices that is going to go.
39:40Okay?
39:40And these people they are discussing about their pros.
39:43What about the promise?
39:45Now when the promise is executed.
39:46You are saying why are you executing it?
39:48Where is the government?
39:49Wait a second.
39:51If these crisis happened.
39:52Okay?
39:53Even during BJP rule.
39:54These crisis happened.
39:55How was the corona managed across the country?
39:57You have to see.
39:57You have to see that with a perspective.
40:00Okay?
40:00It was a very disciplined management.
40:02Right now.
40:03Even after that.
40:03Even we had a power change.
40:05When?
40:05After corona ended.
40:07And there was peace.
40:09Then it happened.
40:09But here what is happening?
40:11When the country is suffering.
40:11They point everything towards the central government.
40:14What is their responsibility?
40:15You think chief minister of Karnataka is a small position?
40:18What is the GDP of this state?
40:20This is bigger than many European countries.
40:22It's a very big post.
40:24And they are fighting here for the post.
40:26While all the things are not ironed out.
40:28Because you asked this question.
40:292028 will be difficult.
40:30It will be a cakewalk for us.
40:33The reason is.
40:34These people are not going to fix anything.
40:35They are going to just squabble for the next two years.
40:37You keep watching.
40:38Can I end on a positive note though?
40:39What's the highlight of today?
40:41We are all celebrating the legacy of Sidramaya.
40:43Mr. Gurumurthy.
40:44Just keeping aside political differences.
40:47Sidramaya is a leader.
40:48I think every person in Karnataka will admire.
40:50For what he has done.
40:51For in fact.
40:52What he has contributed to the state.
40:54How he has been a representative of OBCs.
40:57Would you concede that?
40:58That Sidramaya's legacy is unmatched?
41:00Sidramaya has cheated the OBCs.
41:02Sidramaya has cheated the state.
41:04By making the fiscal management of the state very poor.
41:07Financial management of the state very poor.
41:09Sidramaya is today running away.
41:11Because it has become.
41:13The CM seat.
41:14It is very hot.
41:15Because of the burning issues that he has created.
41:17He is running away from his position.
41:19That's all I can say from my party.
41:20Sidramaya's legacy is a politician.
41:21But I have the last few years of his term as Chief Minister.
41:24Sallied that image sir.
41:26No, no.
41:26Not at all.
41:27No question of Sallied.
41:28Because D.K.
41:30Shukumar has been in the government as the Deputy Chief Minister for the last three years.
41:33He knows the all nuances.
41:35He knows all the challenges.
41:36And I think once given a free hand.
41:38He is definitely going to fulfill the promises which have been made by the Sidramaya government.
41:43So, I think my friend's apprehensions are not well placed.
41:49And things are going to be quite good for Bengaluru.
41:53I wish like this some more rains happen.
41:55Yes, I agree.
41:56Because this year we are starving for rains as of now.
41:58So, more rains should happen.
42:00And let's welcome Mr. D.K. Shukumar as in many days.
42:03I have a feeling that on the day if D.K. Shukumar pushes his swearing in by a few more
42:08days.
42:09It will be the onset of monsoon.
42:10So, it could be a rainy swearing in day that we will look at.
42:13But thank you so much Mr. Arant Kurmurthy, Mr. Srivastava for joining us here on India today.
42:17For taking the time out and joining us here at Vidant Souda.
42:20We are going to of course continue tracking the big political fight of all that's played out in Karnataka.
42:25But I want to quickly dip in to Apoorva Jai Chandran.
42:27She is joining us live from D.K. Shukumar's residence where finally it seems the celebrations have begun.
42:32Apoorva over to you, give us a sense of what's happening.
42:39Well, in fact, D.K. Shukumar has just gone by.
42:44You know, he has just left to the airport from here.
42:46Already chants of D.K. D.K. that is being filled in the air as D.K. Shukumar is leaving.
42:52Remember, he had just come out, he addressed the Karnas there in the sense that he just did a big
42:57namaskara to the Karnas,
42:59just thanking them and a soft smile that D.K. Shukumar is giving.
43:02No comments there, no words to the media yet again.
43:06But D.K. Shukumar with a satisfied smile heading to Delhi right now.
43:10In fact, he's just left from his residence over here.
43:13Even as you can just see behind me the kind of fans and the caddles of followers of D.K.
43:19Shukumar who have gathered here.
43:21Many of them who have been shouting D.K. for CM, CM D.K. Shukumar.
43:31Okay, so as we speak right now, you can see essentially that D.K. Shukumar is making his way to
43:38the airport.
43:38He's catching a flight at about 7.40, headed to Delhi.
43:41And right now, Sudra Maya is already in Delhi. I think he may have landed by now.
43:45I'll just get a confirmation on that. He's going to be meeting with the high command.
43:49D.K. Shukumar too will be meeting with the high command.
43:51But it's not going to be a joint meeting. Very different agendas at hand for Sudra Maya.
43:55It's going to be about how he doesn't want the Rajya Sabasi.
43:58But thanks the high command for giving him that opportunity to serve Karnataka for the last many years.
44:03For D.K. Shukumar, it's going to be about the next steps.
44:06About who's going to be a part of the cabinet.
44:07How many deputy chief ministers cast arithmetic.
44:10So two completely different agendas.
44:12Both but touching down in Delhi tonight to meet with the high command.
44:17And get a sense of what's the timeline.
44:19What's going to happen with each of their careers going forward.
44:22Can I just now focus also on what happened as far as D.K. is concerned.
44:27What really worked in his favour.
44:29Let me break that down for you.
44:31For D.K. Shukumar, he's been a very very patient man.
44:34If he said that a promise was made to him two and a half years after he would become the
44:38chief minister.
44:39That timeline expired in November.
44:41It didn't matter though.
44:42You still saw essentially one particular message going across from D.K. Shukumar.
44:48That he will wait.
44:49He will wait for in fact the high command to give him that opportunity.
44:53He met the high command regularly.
44:55Multiple visits that were made repeatedly to Delhi.
44:58To meet with the AICC high command.
45:01To meet with Rahul Gandhi, Sonia Gandhi.
45:03Remind them constantly of the promise that they made him.
45:06And that's what he did.
45:072.5 year rule.
45:09He constantly told the top rush.
45:10Reportedly Sonia Gandhi was in that meeting.
45:12And so that reminder was constantly given to the high command.
45:15He also avoided any public power sharing talks.
45:18Continuing to maintain no rebellion.
45:20All good.
45:21There's no issues or no bad blood whatsoever.
45:24And that was a message that the high command greatly appreciated.
45:27That they didn't allow any of their ambitions to get in the way of governance in Karnataka.
45:32All loyalists were kept in check.
45:34While many of them did speak saying.
45:36Now D.K. Shukumar will become Chief Minister.
45:38Now he'll become Chief Minister.
45:40Beyond that none of them resorted to questioning Sidra Maya.
45:43Leading to a rift in the party.
45:45None of that happened.
45:46He also emphasized on party loyalty.
45:48On sacrificing.
45:49Whatever the high command says.
45:50I will go ahead and do.
45:52And there's no question of me leaving the Congress.
45:54That I'm forever a congressman.
45:56So those are essentially some of the aspects of what worked for D.K. Shukumar.
46:00I bring in Nagarjun.
46:01You've got more information for us.
46:03Sidra Maya will be coming back tomorrow.
46:05To Bengaluru.
46:06And he'll be meeting the governor once again.
46:07Is what we are told.
46:08Because of legalities also.
46:10And two courtesy meets.
46:11He's been.
46:12Does that mean the resignation won't be accepted tonight?
46:15Seems like it.
46:16Because the governor wants to verify if the signature is his.
46:18And it's given in person.
46:20So that's the protocol by the way.
46:21That too.
46:22Just to ensure that the signature is not.
46:26There's no discrepancy in the signature also.
46:27That's the reason.
46:28That's the protocol.
46:29Usually the governors call for such big posts.
46:32It's not an MLA or MLC.
46:33We are talking about the chief minister of Karnataka.
46:35But it's also a courtesy meeting.
46:37Sidra Maya has not met the governor final time as the CM.
46:39He would be calling on the governor tomorrow.
46:42Even if the governor has accepted the letter today.
46:44He would still go and call on the governor tomorrow.
46:46To thank him.
46:47For all the three years of cooperation that he's given.
46:50The bills that has been assented.
46:51The speeches that he's given before the budget session of the government.
46:54So it's a courtesy call also.
46:56So in the afternoon tomorrow post lunch.
46:58Sidra Maya will once again go to Lok Bhavan.
47:00And meet the governor and thank him as well.
47:02And the lights are back on.
47:04It was off.
47:04I was questioning.
47:05I was wondering why yesterday we didn't have it on.
47:07So is this celebration?
47:09It's a sign that there's a new chief minister.
47:12These don't happen every day.
47:14These don't happen usually on non-holidays.
47:17It's a working day.
47:18And we still have lights behind us in Vidansa.
47:20And it's looking beautiful.
47:21Absolutely.
47:22It's looking wonderful.
47:23I get it though.
47:24I get what the fight for the power throat is all about.
47:26It's a beautiful structure.
47:28Most iconic monument of Bengaluru.
47:30Swearing in ceremony could happen this weekend.
47:32The dates that are reportedly being considered is 31st, 1st or 3rd.
47:36But this very again ceremony will happen behind me at the beautiful Vidan Sauda.
47:40In the front steps.
47:42It's an iconic, majestic location.
47:44So it's going to be a beautiful, massive event.
47:47And importantly, a Congress show of strength.
47:49For DK Shiv Kumar, this is the moment he's been waiting for.
47:52His moment of reckoning of sorts.
47:54He's been fighting for it.
47:56Behind the scenes at least.
47:57For this particular position.
47:59He's finally gotten it.
48:00And it's as smooth as can get.
48:02The transition of power happening right now.
48:04Tomorrow we are hearing Sidramaya will meet the Governor.
48:07In which case, right now, he still remains the Chief Minister.
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