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00:00and what was a disgusting way to end a promising season was it promising kenny because i thought
00:05it was for the most part well i thought so too but after recalibrating talking to the people
00:12of northeast ohio they're mad right now and they should be but uh they were never in the same boat
00:18that they thought this was promising the most frequent response i've gotten on either social
00:23media or in real life was this was one of the worst teams to root for ever why you'll have
00:31to ask
00:32the people of northeast ohio that trade i and we got a lot of time to get into it that
00:37trade for
00:37james harden it there's something about him that man people just can't stand people just hate uh i i
00:44don't we'll have to ask a couple people as time goes on i have to ask fans as time goes
00:49on uh it's a
00:50disgusting way to end the season uh without a doubt uh i'm i'm disappointed i was upset uh the
00:57thing became a knicks uh pep rally over the basically the entire second half i know that some
01:03cleveland celebrities try to get people going as best they could but basically it became a
01:07knicks takeover that's the way it goes i mean you lost you got swept for nothing you have a team
01:12that
01:12hasn't been to the nba finals since 98 was it 98 they went to the finals in the strike 99
01:18strike
01:19shortened year um you have a team there that has obviously a very massive fan base new york city
01:24mecca basketball the whole thing nicks did a hell of a job jalen brunson's a hell of a player credit
01:29where it's due uh it was a uh terribly embarrassing way to finish the year you could say they're out
01:35of
01:35gas they're still pros you're still at home we're still ugly and i think that that's part of the reason
01:41why some people are feeling that way now that said you know the question of the day is going to
01:45be
01:45for everybody you know should they blow it up and my answer is no uh as disappointed as i am
01:51as upset as i am uh is as embarrassing as that game was and it was without a doubt embarrassing
01:58um i i don't think that it's blow up time for this basketball team i have my reasons and i'll
02:04tell
02:04you why you don't want to go to washington wizards land no you don't you're telling me that's basically
02:08reasons a through z brooklyn nets land because when you when we say like if you're saying it and you're
02:15mad guys i get it i get it but if we're just saying blow it up like if you're still
02:20saying blow
02:20it up at the end of this week then i i don't think you guys know what you're getting into
02:25and i think
02:26the ones that are that that are mad by the end of today or tomorrow or even the next day
02:32maybe they'll
02:33maybe they'll calm down a little bit and understand what you're jumping into because when you blow it up
02:37you're committing to something that is going to take at least four years probably just to get back to
02:42the play-in games and and that's that's siberia i mean you're asking for siberia and even then thank
02:48god you have a committed owner who's willing to do whatever it takes to go out and get a championship
02:53there but you really have nothing in the kitty right now like you have to you have to see this
02:57through and what you have is a team that is probably as of right now not cut out to win
03:05an nba finals
03:07and i still have to try to see this thing through because i know the alternate of the alternative is
03:14unwatchable basketball yesterday was unwatchable i understand that that was terrible so it's a
03:18terrible joke to make almost even though i wasn't trying to make a joke it's terrible to see but it's
03:23true i mean you're going to go back to 19 win land you're going to go back to ping pong
03:27ball land even
03:28though the rules are different uh when it comes to blowing it up i think there's gonna be a lot
03:32of
03:32people who disagree with me today i'm ready for that that's fine but i think by the end of the
03:36week we should probably calm down and hold on here i mean what we're what we might be advocating for
03:41probably is is a little bit crazy well you don't even own your first round picks for a while so
03:45you
03:45have pick swaps and it's not not as if you could say hey let's just be bad and of course
03:50they changed
03:51the lottery rules so yeah they're not blowing this up they they very they very easily could be primed to
04:00still make massive moves they are going to be in the heart of a lot of the gigantic nba offseason
04:07discussions yep so i maybe there'll be some excitement for that maybe on the other hand
04:12there'll be some people be like oh i don't know cleveland has made some big trades in recent years
04:17and those have not worked out so maybe maybe they they will want to at least stand pat but of
04:24course
04:24standing pat delivered you a team that apparently do a lot of people was miserable so uh not not
04:30oftentimes in sports you get to the final four of your sport and have people be miserable but i can't
04:37argue with fans anymore they're miserable like holy cow are they miserable i try to sit here and and talk
04:42to people and lecture and tell people why it's exciting to be in the vital four but when the team
04:48does get
04:48annihilated and doesn't look like they belong on the same floor in the final three games and really the
04:53final three games in eight minutes of the series yeah what like do i have to stand on that was
04:58not
04:58fun with the way they got their heads kicked in for the final three games of the season or the
05:01series
05:02i i don't think we would have won the series had we won game one uh that pointed out i
05:06don't think
05:07so either that pointed out it certainly would have been we we would still be getting ready for another
05:10game and i don't think it would have been the type of onslaught avalanche against you that it's that
05:16has been over the last three games i think more than 15 people would have showed up for the
05:20the party in the plaza whatever that was yesterday i didn't see the party in the plaza you didn't see
05:26it because i'm sorry you didn't see it because there was no party um there were more people in
05:30line to go to the guardians game oh really boy yeah nick's uh the new york media was all over
05:36that
05:36over the last uh the last few days oh you're kidding oh yes i didn't see it i'm sorry well
05:41because
05:41you saw like in master square garden there were thousands of people in toronto thousands of people
05:48cleveland not so much
05:52they were out kenny people told me they were out on this team and i can't deny the truth and
05:58i said
05:58i said well the season ticket holders and the the people that took the buses to detroit they were
06:04not they had their game seven when in detroit felt like the super bowl to them what is it why
06:09didn't
06:09they like them all here why didn't they like them i that's the worst questions honestly it's the worst
06:14question i asked i i gotta get it off my chest just one minute in give me one minute tell
06:18me why
06:19you don't think they didn't like him was it the heart of the trade i think that was it they
06:22loved
06:23they love darius garland yeah but i used to sit here and have shouting matches with people on the
06:28radio about how this team is better with darius garland that's why i'm so surprised like they're not
06:33better with darius garland instead of james harden but before we're like darius garland would get hurt
06:37and we had these cut these insane conversations with other people who just did not fill the bill
06:43and why they they were better without darius garland i mean do we not remember the conversation
06:47that happened around the heat series just last year that was a calendar year ago but we've already
06:52forgotten that when people thought they might be better with ty jerome yeah with ty jerome as as the
06:56point guard we should get rid of darius garland and now one year later one year later it's this team
07:02is unwatchable because there's no darius garland they weren't even excited about darius they weren't
07:07excited about this team when darius garland was on it so i don't even want to hear that like they
07:11start out 17 and 16 and it was just this big like malaise of last year well yeah i remember
07:16they
07:16they uh they they got they gave up the huge lead on christmas day then they got shellacked and that
07:23was bad all that was bad and then they traded for james harden and i don't think that james harden
07:28is a
07:28beloved figure in the city by any means i know that they try to give away the beard stuff and
07:33try to
07:33have some fun with it he's not beloved by any means by any fan base out there okay fine but
07:38you can't
07:39tell me the difference between likability and not liking them is darius garland i don't believe it
07:44i think that there's some people coming out of the woodwork now that were pro darius garland who don't
07:49remember what was said on this show before last year but still i i look at this i go that
07:53can't be
07:54the sole reason of it what is it why is it why are we holding them to an to an
07:59unrealistic standard
08:00of what we've seen in calves past or do they just know that they're not good enough and that's it
08:05or are we just not the type of basketball town that we thought we were i mean there's a thousand
08:09different reasons for it i can't put my finger on it but yeah when i'm seeing i i just saw
08:14this
08:14literally seconds ago i'm sure that's what key's texting about 90 seconds ago i'm seeing that i'm
08:19seeing nobody like excited outside the arena and i go it wasn't like that in 2007 the place was packed
08:25it was a sea of humanity back there and that was a long time ago so what is it what
08:30happened is it just
08:31that you don't have lebron you don't have lebron and teams with lebron one way or the other he ain't
08:36gonna be here after a while so we gotta we gotta move on teams with lebron just dance through the
08:41eastern conference which is funny because a lot of people said oh too much drama with lebron
08:45like honestly the calves the calves did not have any drama this year donovan mitchell there was no
08:51drama like they these guys are like really really good guys even this version of james harden the most
08:57dramatic thing that happened this year was rich paul afterwards just saying what everybody knew
09:02yeah was that that they were going to ask for a trade with darius garland yeah like so i there
09:09was
09:09no drama quote-unquote other than that oh well james harden's gonna bring drama and then meanwhile
09:13everybody said james harden just was literally the first guy to show up people like well i didn't
09:18realize he worked so hard of course you wouldn't know it by the three-point shooting at the end of
09:21the
09:21series where he couldn't buy a basket but like there was no drama so i i think what bothered me
09:28the most is there was always a but when it came to why people weren't going to feel good about
09:36the
09:36team but eventually i can't i can't argue with people like your visceral feelings your visceral
09:40feelings and if you hate watching something then you hate watching something my whole point is you know
09:45what i hate watching are teams that are irrelevant and had no chance to even get out of a first
09:50round or
09:50a play-in like that's what i hate well i guess i guess other people like the struggle they like
09:56a plucky underdog young tall that we were underdogs in this series massive underdogs actually by the end
10:02of it um i i guess i guess that was part of it like i asked people on social media
10:08it'll never not be
10:09weird to me that you fall in love with the sexton garland teams that had zero chance and didn't
10:17accomplish anything this team gets to the final four there's a reason there's a reason behind that
10:22you know that reason is that they were drafted guys i mean people always love their own guys
10:26drafted like they're their own children so that that i can actually understand that that's the one
10:31that's the one tinge to it i can understand all right and that unless people are just looking at
10:35the internet i mean james harden is the the easiest superstar to make fun of in maybe professional
10:39sports because you know he's never going to hand he's never going to hammer you back on it like
10:43there there hasn't been that moment it's been 17 years in the nba there hasn't been that moment
10:48where he's went out there and won it and then he can stick it to everybody it's just he's the
10:52easiest
10:52great player to make fun of in the nba that's the thing he's amazing he's been amazing and he was
10:58better than darius uh-huh he's better in the playoffs than anything darius had ever given you
11:03so so think about that we love the guy that we drafted that's not good but the guy that's the
11:09hall
11:09of famer that bailed us out by the way in the toronto series and at times in the detroit series
11:16like was a big part of us moving on you don't like that guy no explain that to me i'll
11:21never
11:21understand well it was it they're not gonna like that guy because they don't think he's enough to
11:25get him over the hump they just don't but they like the guy that couldn't get them over the hump
11:32and was worse than the guy that did because to them there is there is going to be people who
11:40believe that darius garland was better than what anybody ever made him to be and that if we were
11:45going to trade him we should have got something bigger in return i wish we would have and i would
11:50listen we're all we're all locking arms on that we all agree with each other on it darius garland had
11:55trade value but it wasn't because he's not there's trade value there james hard is a good player but
12:00you weren't going to get that dynamic wing no because it because of darius garland it wasn't
12:05going to happen but i think we'll get some people calling in today to say to blow it up
12:11and i just say to those people hey if you're just a name that's on a phone call that's fine
12:18lime is going to hold me accountable everybody else is going to hold each other accountable on the
12:22station for saying it should be blown up i'm not saying it should be blown up i don't think
12:25it should be blown up i mean get rid of guys i mean that's what blow it up is well
12:29wait like
12:30trading evan mobley is blowing it up because no when i hear blow it up i i like tear down
12:35to the
12:35day but they can't they don't own their picks so what does that mean i don't know i i saw
12:40brian
12:40geltsiler tweet yesterday that well if they can't do it they should blow it up well what what does blow
12:45it up even look like and second i think that if you were to ask me the definition of blow
12:50it up and said
12:50all right you trade away donovan mitchell you trade away james harden has a has a contract
12:55conversation to have you trade away evan mobley and you start fresh like that to me is what the
12:59definition of blow it up is and what you're saying is right like you can't even blow it up but
13:04if you're advocating to blow it up think about what we're advocating for we're going from one of the
13:08four teams that are left in the nba now down to one of the three teams left the nba to
13:13one of the
13:14final four teams left in the league to probably a 20-win basketball team that's what you're going to
13:18so i can't advocate for that regardless i mean you can get in the contract contract all you want
13:23i'm just saying at the very bare minimum of everything at the base of all of this it's that
13:28i'm not advocating to blow this thing up i won't advocate to blow this thing up this year no no
13:33well
13:33you're not and see this is the difference though you're not where milwaukee was where there was the
13:38talent drain over time because you maxed and went all in and then everybody lost their value except for
13:44like there still are valuable assets on this team they still have they still have really good
13:50players so i don't i to me that that doesn't that doesn't speak especially if anybody has seen dan
13:58gilbert who i don't know if he was there last night but i you know i obviously saw him you
14:04know at times
14:05during these playoffs and does that look like a guy who wants to sit through a rebuild i don't think
14:12so
14:12like that that is not i mean you got to think like jerry jones want to sit through a bunch
14:17of
14:17rebuilds like no jerry jones always wants to be a year away from having a chance to compete for the
14:23super bowl dan gilbert strikes me as somebody that as long as he owns this team he will never go
14:29back
14:30down to the 17 win cavaliers again he'll do his best not to i mean you go back to the
14:34kevin love signing
14:35years ago when they were getting ready to redo that where they were just starting the redoing of the arena
14:41and there were people who who thought it was not the greatest signing ever it's like well he's always
14:45going to be trying to win he's always going to be trying to get people in the arena and kevin
14:49love
14:49was like the last of those people like you you knew where he stood for what he stood for even
14:53then
14:54and where it is now so i agree with you he's he's just not that type of owner to do
14:58it um but i think
15:01all good things come to an end and i think maybe next year is obviously this has been a good
15:05thing
15:05and next year is probably when if it doesn't work out this is where this thing comes to an end
15:09one way or another it's probably where this this thing comes to an end is at the at this time
15:14next
15:15year but as of right now as as angry as i was watching that last night how embarrassing as it
15:21was and it was it was it was a terribly embarrassing performance uh it's not time to break it up
15:27yet no
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