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00:12Oh, look, but I'll get all embarrassed.
00:14Will you? Bullshit.
00:19They're convincing me to let you in.
00:21Oh, go on, let them in.
00:22Oh, right.
00:32Come in to my room, okay?
00:37Oh, he's wrecking things already.
00:40It's sorry.
00:44Where to begin?
00:55There's certainly no end.
01:07I'm not a hoarder, she says, surrounded by.
01:11Oh, okay.
01:12But I found these and I don't really know what's in them.
01:16Oh, there's the...
01:16Oh, gosh, that's a bit much.
01:18The first time the hot pants went out.
01:20Sorry about that.
01:27My final guest is a megastar on pop with more hits than the Mafia.
01:31Please welcome Grammy Award winner, Kylie.
01:35I need to do some editing here.
01:37I really do need to do some editing.
01:38Aha, we're back in safe territory.
01:43Kylie, thank you very much for joining us.
01:45Good evening.
01:46Good morning.
01:46Rustling papers is one of the most irritating noises.
01:51It will send me wild.
01:55Anyone agree?
01:56No, just me.
01:59Okay.
02:02And this business, they come and go.
02:08But you have an amazing way of reinventing yourself.
02:12I've never done anything like this.
02:16I don't know where we're going.
02:19But you're going to reveal a lot of things.
02:22You just can't wait, can you?
02:23You're like, the worst, the better.
02:25Give it to me.
02:27But I'm tentative to see the things that I'm hiding.
02:31But I'm not hiding it from you.
02:34It's from myself.
02:42It's been good, great, terrible.
02:47But I just keep trying to get back on stage.
02:51Life makes sense to me on stage.
02:55And people don't know why.
02:58Yeah.
02:59You want to talk about that now?
03:00Not now.
03:02100% not now.
03:06The new viral hits has introduced a new audience to Kylie.
03:10Her songs have been streamed over 5 billion times.
03:15There's 35 years of stuff.
03:17More.
03:19How are we going to do this?
03:20Well, when I say we, I mean you.
03:25You go, you go, you go, you go, you go.
03:35Thank you very much.
03:38You too.
03:40Satisfying that, isn't it?
03:47What's your version of the star?
03:54ah the 80s seems like another lifetime but I'll tell it to you as if it's box fresh
04:06I came to London when I was 19 Trafalgar Square from the other end of the earth
04:16to go and make a record it was wildly exciting I remember going down a laneway into humble
04:26entrance and then the first room there's just kind of gold records everywhere
04:33dead or alive you spin me around banana Rama Donna Summer
04:40so I was riddled with self-doubt and anxiety and all those other wonderful things that we love
04:58ready yeah I'm ready where you are quick because I've got to be out of here by three I
05:05got a call telling me there was a small antipodean in the reception expecting to
05:11make a record didn't even know what an antipodean was
05:16you've got to understand I had no idea who this girl was right I mean we've got Rick Astley the
05:22world's biggest artist it was another artist please
05:28so I was waiting around for ages and they'd forgotten I was there
05:37but she had to catch a flight two and a half hours later back to Sydney
05:44I'm asking what are we doing so I just thought let's do it
06:02they had to write a song really quickly for me in allegedly 40 minutes who knows
06:09everyone's stories slightly different oh two hours it took two hours and that is a very true story
06:18but we didn't have the title of the song and she only had 30 minutes to get to the airport
06:27so somebody said you should be so lucky
06:49and that was it no conversation that was it she gone she's gone
06:56I didn't know if the song was any good or what it meant or would it even make it who
07:00are these guys
07:01what just happened
07:07I had no idea that I was about to go over the precipice into a different world
07:22good morning gang this is the hit man with the latest hits before their hits
07:28I was on the radio at nine o'clock in the morning
07:30come on gang keep your feet dancing
07:33and my producer walked in and saw on the label Kylie Minogue
07:37he says it's Kylie Minogue
07:40yeah
07:41no no Pete it's Kylie Minogue
07:43I went sorry
07:45he said open the mic
07:48tell them they're going to hear the first Kylie Minogue single
07:50he said but only till you hear the first vocal and then stop it
07:55I said what
07:56he said do as you told
07:59stay tuned because you may just miss that hit
08:04and this could be it
08:08Kylie Minogue doing it
08:12close my
08:14the phones went nuts
08:19all 30 lines lift up instantly
08:22and you have a switch
08:24can knock all them off
08:30so I'm knocking the 30 lines out fast and furious
08:33and couldn't stop them
08:34now that's unheard of
08:36that doesn't happen
08:38and then I get a call from the BBC
08:41is this right you've done a single with Kylie Minogue
08:45sorry
08:47next thing
08:48you're doing Top of the Pops
08:50and what
08:55I didn't even know what Top of the Pops was
08:58like
08:59bringing reference to Top of the Pops once again
09:01we have Ross in the studio tonight
09:03Elton John is with us
09:05let's go over here now
09:06with Kylie Minogue
09:07with I should be so lucky
09:12well this was the biggest television show
09:14in Britain
09:26it was like
09:27what the hell's going on here
09:29what is this
09:34now
09:35I had no idea
09:52what Neighbours was
09:53right
09:57there's not a day really goes by in my life where at some point I don't refer back
10:05to those years
10:07I mean the amount of times I get into a cab and someone will go how's Kylie
10:12and it's like oh fuck I don't fucking know
10:15you go and ask fucking her
10:17and that you know it's not the disrespect to her
10:21it's just come on man
10:23you know that's a long time ago
10:27what I can remember was sitting in the wardrobe van on the set of Neighbours
10:33this little Aussie soap opera
10:37and this new actor had arrived and she turned around to me
10:41it was her first day and said do you remember me
10:45small world
10:47my first day ever on a set
10:49we played brother and sister
10:51it was just crazy
10:53oh wow
10:55god that's right
10:56but I couldn't remember her
10:58no
11:00he's got a big spider
11:01do you want to see
11:03well does he bite
11:04no not if he likes you
11:06I can understand why I couldn't
11:08she had those buck teeth
11:10so she looked a lot different
11:12want to pet him
11:13go on
11:15suddenly it was like
11:17wow
11:18wow
11:23he spoke about you
11:28she talked about you
11:30did she
11:31this would be interesting
11:34my first scene on Neighbours
11:36was with him
11:37punching him
11:39I think that she did actually punch me
11:46sorry Scott
11:47what that says about me
11:53now you're staff don't you
11:54sure do
11:57when I joined
11:58it wasn't a huge show
12:00hi I'm Jason Donovan
12:02and I'm Carly Minogue
12:03join us here on Monday night
12:04on Perth's new channel 10
12:07but the producers could see
12:09the chemistry between the two of us
12:12so we were coupled together in the show
12:16what's happening this hour
12:17I'm babysitting Bradley
12:19why don't I look after him with you
12:21I mean we could do our songs together
12:22yeah okay
12:31would you like to try for three broken ribs
12:35but we were just good friends
12:41we could understand each other
12:44and we must have fancied each other as well
12:47that helps
12:49you're the last thing I think of
12:50before I go to sleep
12:51and the first thing I think of
12:53when I wake up
12:54I'm serious
12:55you make me sound like cleaning your teeth
12:57I mean
13:00I don't remember a specific moment
13:04Kylie and I came together
13:11well I do remember
13:13it was in Sydney
13:14very publicly at the travel lodge
13:19we were just kids
13:21we were fresh out of high school
13:23so it was like that kind of
13:25sweetheart's romance
13:27it was art imitating life
13:30can I tell you something
13:33love you Scott
13:34love you too
13:36promise
13:37yeah I promise
13:42or life imitating art
13:47that we decided to keep
13:49the relationship a secret
13:53because it would give us a fighting chance
13:58I'm totally confused
13:59are you or are you not just good friends
14:03maybe
14:10did I think we were ever going to get married
14:17the truth is yeah
14:20and have kids
14:21and
14:23that's the script written
14:25and off you go
14:30I thought it was my destination
14:36it struck a chord with the audience
14:39because it was real
14:42the winner is
14:43Kylie Minogue
14:48Neighbours has gone on
14:50to become the most successful
14:51Australian television series
14:52ever produced
14:53Jason and Kylie
14:55have become national heroes
14:57it became really popular
14:59in Australia
15:00I'm lucky I can reach this microphone
15:02but maybe not
15:05as kind of obsessed
15:07and maniacal
15:08as it was
15:10elsewhere
15:11we're going live
15:12by satellite
15:13to the set of neighbours
15:14Melbourne
15:15Melbourne
15:15is that right
15:16oh they can hear me
15:18success
15:19Kylie Minogue
15:20who plays Charlene
15:21yes hello
15:24the TV executives
15:25say they've rarely seen
15:26anything like it
15:27will you try and see it my way
15:29I don't want to leave you
15:31within weeks
15:32school children
15:32all over the country
15:33were wagging school
15:34to watch the programme
15:36I bunk off school actually
15:38to watch it
15:38seriously
15:39it was wild
15:41we didn't understand
15:42it was hysteria
15:44in Oxford Street
15:46normally a traffic nightmare
15:48but at 1.30
15:49the greatest TV phenomenon
15:51to hit this nation
15:52brings the city
15:54to a standstill
15:55and people were changing
15:57their doctor's hours
15:58or their working hours
16:00Princess Diana
16:01phoned the BBC
16:03for two episodes
16:04she'd missed
16:07what do you think it is
16:09that makes
16:09Neighbors so popular here
16:12it's just fun to watch
16:14rather than watching
16:15East Anderson
16:15putting yourself in a noose
16:17after you've watched it
16:18this time yesterday
16:19I was ready to chuck
16:20the whole thing in
16:21with an audience
16:22of 24 million people a day
16:24there can't be all that many
16:26not watching
16:26now
16:27you've got to understand
16:28I had no idea
16:29what Neighbors was
16:30we were too busy
16:31we didn't watch television
16:36it just wasn't
16:37in our psyche at all
16:40then of course
16:41I find out
16:42she's this enormous
16:43figure
16:49a hustle gobsmacked
16:52I didn't realise
16:54how big
16:55she was
16:57but then it's like
17:00understand this now
17:01I get it
17:02the ice cream wasn't us
17:05the ice cream was neighbours
17:06we put the cherry on top
17:09and then bang
17:16people believed
17:17Kylie was their friend
17:19I love you Kylie
17:20she was
17:25the girl next door
17:28in my imagination
17:30there is no complication
17:32I dream about you all the time
17:35this is Frodo Brooks
17:36here in London
17:36with a brand new top 40
17:41at three it climbs
17:42four
17:43Billy Ocean
17:43get out of my dreams
17:45number two
17:46it was last week's
17:47number one
17:48Tiffany
17:48I think we're alone now
17:54let's get the pun out of the way now
17:56I am lucky lucky lucky
17:57which means that Britain
17:59has a brand new
18:00number one
18:11but I was this upstart
18:14has stolen the number one position
18:17will you always want to get into music
18:19I think so
18:20probably
18:24because on radio
18:27it is much more rock and roll
18:29much more male
18:31you're a great artist
18:36it definitely
18:39was not littered
18:43with soap star turned singers
18:46no
18:48so when you started out
18:50did you mean to be an actress
18:51or a singer
18:53but you're an actress
18:54you can't be a singer
18:57I just remember struggling with it all those years ago
19:00thinking well what do you mean
19:02do you see yourself as a singer and an actress
19:04what do you want to be
19:05both
19:08what it just didn't make sense to me
19:11it just didn't make sense
19:14but eventually you're going to have to come down
19:16and decide to be one thing or the other
19:18well eventually um
19:19I don't like to be trapped
19:22I don't like to be put in a box
19:24and I was through those early years
19:26but you can't be a singer
19:27or surely you can't
19:30that's
19:31how can you do
19:32it's just it's dumb
19:34how can you do both
19:36well
19:38tell that to Dolly and Cher and Barbara
19:40and see what they've got to say about it
19:43they'll take you down
19:46so back then it was like
19:47wow that works
19:48now what
19:51so where are you going now
19:52what are your big plans
19:53I want to go to England as soon as I can
19:55and record an album
20:02when Kylie Minogue became an international recording star
20:07she owed it all to Stock
20:09Aitken and Borderman
20:11no they're not her lawyers
20:12I just gotta wash my balls
20:14spot on that top shot you know
20:16they're the most successful creative team
20:18in the multi-million dollar world of pop
20:21I asked Pete Waterman
20:22for the secret of their success
20:24it's disposable
20:25you buy it
20:26you sing it
20:27you have a good time
20:28it's not to be taken seriously
20:29and then you put it in your record collection
20:31and it's a memory
20:33you don't try and analyse it
20:34to find out what's happening in Nicaragua
20:39I'm wondering why
20:41this is really loud
20:43me
20:46we had to make a whole album
20:48in between takes of
20:50you know neighbours
20:53come in Scott
20:54it concerns Antonio
20:56he's my boyfriend
20:57firstly neighbours had to write me out of the show
20:59got a job
21:00it's up in Brisbane
21:01why are you leaving?
21:03like this afternoon
21:05during which time I would
21:06fly to England
21:09I would get to the sacred studio
21:10the song would be written out
21:12here's how it goes
21:14sing it learn it
21:15go
21:17what's all the hurry
21:19I thought we had forever
21:21got it
21:22good
21:23next
21:26hi I'm Kylie
21:27on the set of my new video
21:28I hope you like it
21:33it was like
21:34you're on a flight tonight
21:35let's do it
21:36go
21:37and head straight back
21:38to the set of neighbours again
21:42Scott told me you were home
21:44repeat repeat repeat repeat
21:45see you later
21:46see ya
21:48that's what it was like
21:50there was no time to think
21:51or plan anything
21:51we have two hours today
21:53that's it
21:57most of the songs
21:58was written literally
21:59as she sang it
22:06I'd love to say
22:07this was well planned
22:08but it was
22:09just on the hoof
22:10it's no secret
22:14good luck
22:19I was having an affair
22:20with a French girl
22:22and she kept
22:22using this wonderful expression
22:24je ne sais quoi
22:26I had no idea
22:27what a je ne sais quoi was
22:28I went
22:29that's for us
22:40I decided to pull into Wolverhampton
22:42to Ruby Red Records
22:44I swear to this
22:45on my life
22:45this is a true story
22:47the first two kids
22:48walked through the door
22:49could I have a couple of you
22:50je ne sais quoi
22:50people call police
22:51I thought
22:52ka-ching
22:53I just hit the jackpot
22:55which means that Britain
22:57has a brand new
22:58number one
22:59hi everybody
23:00you're having a good time
23:03and the other thing is
23:05it's still the biggest record
23:07Kylie's ever had in France
23:09Kylie Minogue
23:10where she's known as Kylie
23:12Kylie Minogue
23:14Kylie Minogue
23:20you're number one in Finland
23:21and Germany and Greece
23:23great
23:25I was thrust into doing
23:27this photo shoot
23:28that photo shoot
23:29and these interviews
23:30what's your schedule like
23:31go to Germany for a day
23:33Spain for a day
23:35Japan
23:36I've not yet been up
23:37oh actually I have
23:42I just did what I was told
23:46I had no clout to really say no
23:50I didn't really ask questions
23:53and I had to be neatened up
23:55and perfected
23:57and always be happy
24:00hello
24:00yes I'm here
24:02can I ask you these questions then
24:03yeah sure
24:04how do you feel about
24:05smoking, drinking, drugs and sex
24:07all these things
24:08sure I could be involved in all that
24:10but I'm not up a third to
24:11stay away from it
24:17she's selling more records
24:19than any other female recording artist
24:20in the world
24:24600,000 albums sold in Great Britain
24:28there's a swift education
24:30as to how the machine works
24:32and I said to her
24:40this is like a sky rocket
24:43hold on the stick
24:44enjoy every minute of it
24:46big round of applause for Kylie
24:49because it will come down at some point
24:54right welcome
24:55thereby proving Andy Warhol's dictum
24:58that everyone will be famous for 15 minutes
25:00well 15 minutes can be a long time
25:02especially when you spend it
25:04listening to the work of that
25:05Melbourne nightingale
25:06Kylie Minogue
25:08who's also here with us today
25:10all five foot one of her
25:12alas only in two dimensions
25:14but who can tell the difference anyway
25:17no one wants
25:21endeavour to be
25:23free of effort
25:24or free of challenge
25:27but
25:31it was a baptism of fire
25:36what I find so fake
25:38is
25:39I'm just an ordinary person
25:40I'm just a girl next door
25:41you can't live
25:42you missed the point
25:44she's specially ordinary
25:50unexceptional
25:50doll banal
25:55it's a blindy ordinaness
26:01heavy criticism
26:06I remember hearing clangers
26:08that were really public
26:12I was trying to think of a good word for it
26:16being mean
26:18she's a soap star
26:19who got a record deal
26:20off the strength of the fact
26:21that she's very well known
26:26you no longer have to be interesting
26:27to get to number one
26:28you can just be a sort of
26:29human crocheted scarf
26:30it is absolutely awful
26:33mechanistic
26:34valueless
26:35meaningless stuff
26:36terrible
26:38and to be 19 years old
26:41and having to
26:43cop that
26:45that was unpleasant
26:48well why
26:49because I mean
26:49she can sing
26:50no she can't sing
27:00well the best one was
27:01she can't sing
27:02she can't sing
27:03I'm sorry Kylie
27:04but you can't sing
27:09and one of the terms
27:12used to describe me
27:14the singing budgie
27:16the singing budgie
27:21the human part was missing
27:23it's like
27:23who are they
27:24who are they
27:26who decides this is cool
27:29some radio stations
27:31refused to play her record
27:33because of what they called
27:34the high irritant factor
27:37what would happen if I met them
27:39and I was sat face to face with them
27:40and say
27:42how would you feel
27:43if that was your daughter
27:45I feel very lucky
27:48staggeringly lucky
28:01and those critical voices
28:03were very different
28:06to the voices that I grew up with
28:09the good chairs are taken
28:11you've got to be quick
28:12you have to be quick
28:16I was raised
28:17without any put-downs
28:19without ever hearing
28:21you can't do this
28:22you can't do that
28:24to a great year
28:26we were just encouraged
28:27to do what we loved
28:31and that was music
28:34it was everything
28:35it was everything
28:36and how lucky
28:37we're all together
28:38we managed
28:39to all be together
28:40we managed
28:42we managed to be together
28:43we managed to stay together
28:48my dad was an accountant
28:50worked really hard
28:52but he loved playing music
28:55he really loves jazz
28:56he loves like
28:58not what I do
29:02my mother was a ballerina
29:04when she was a teenager
29:07any elegance I have
29:08is from my mother
29:12and I've always thought
29:14what kind of shy child
29:16I wasn't in school plays or anything
29:18but actually
29:19I'm sorry honey
29:20if I don't change the pace
29:22I mean she was posing already
29:26they had three kids under four
29:28three scallywags
29:32so I was flung into a music class
29:35might have been
29:36because my parents wanted me out of the house
29:38but I hated rules
29:40I hated being boxed in
29:43refused to do my grades
29:46and so my love affair with music
29:49began with this
29:53this was the portal
29:54this was the gateway
30:01I became a pop fanatic
30:04I would hover above my cassette player
30:07to record my favourite music
30:14and I know we're starting at the beginning
30:16but if I go to the
30:18let's not call it the end
30:19if we come to the current moment
30:22I love music even more
30:26I don't like to be trapped in anything
30:28I like to have fluidity
30:29and have somewhere to go
30:34music by definition is moving
30:39and it can go anywhere
30:43within
30:44I'm probably not explaining it
30:45I'm trying to do it with my hands
30:46I'm trying to explain it
30:47but
30:48with all the different syncopation
30:50all the different notes
30:51it's a moving, living, breathing thing
30:53and I feel that my being is
30:56I can relate to that
30:58it talks to me
30:59music
31:03I used to parade around
31:04doing some kind of imaginary performance
31:07in my head
31:08and I just thought
31:09all kids dreamt of being
31:10a pop star
31:14but I didn't know how
31:16that would ever be a reality
31:17you've got sort of a musical family
31:19or did you just suddenly decide
31:21you wanted to sing?
31:22well my parents aren't musical
31:23my sister is
31:24she's actually come with me on this trip
31:25is she here?
31:26yes she is
31:27has she been on the telly before?
31:28no
31:28not here
31:29would she like to be do you think?
31:31I don't know
31:31where is she?
31:32grab her over
31:32right
31:34hello
31:35come in
31:36now I'll tell you what
31:37you have by chair
31:42what's it like having a famous sister?
31:44it's great
31:45what do you do?
31:46are you sitting?
31:47I see and dance
31:47our initial bedroom was together
31:51and it was good until it wasn't good
31:56and when it wasn't good
31:59it was like a war zone
32:02at one point
32:03there was sticky tape
32:04drawn down the middle of the room
32:08that's your side
32:09and that's your side
32:10and you cannot cross it
32:11if a piece of clothing was borrowed
32:14all hell could break loose
32:18but when I was seven
32:21I saw the movie Grease
32:25there was something about Olivia Newton-John
32:27that spirit
32:29that energy
32:31it does something to me
32:35I just remember looking at her thinking
32:37I don't know what it is that she does
32:39but I want to do that
32:41but you know
32:43I wanted to be Olivia Newton-John
32:48Kylie and I both wanted to perform
32:51mum and dad didn't know much about it
32:54but we pestered them
32:56until they broke
33:00mum had a great idea
33:01of finding an agent
33:03just to shut us up
33:07because she's like
33:09nothing's going to happen from this
33:20my sister Dani got a part on the TV show
33:23called Young Talent Time
33:25which is kind of like the Mickey Mouse Club
33:27hello Australia
33:28and welcome to our really big one
33:29so come on get up
33:31and here we go
33:32baby face
33:34you've got the cutest little baby face
33:37but I was not the cutest
33:42so I got an acting job
33:47now I'm here
33:48and you will save me
33:51it wasn't very good
33:52but it was you know
33:56no you can't just leave me here
34:01and then Dani became a superstar
34:05here's Dani Minogue
34:08Dani's sister Kylie Minogue
34:10yeah
34:10she's developed into a fine young actress
34:12isn't she
34:13yeah
34:14and I just kept getting more and more acting jobs
34:17sorry sir but I've got a job
34:18this is my last day at school
34:19how much are you getting
34:20I forgot to ask
34:25this young lady Kylie Minogue
34:27is one of the stars of a new Australian series
34:29are you proud of your sister over here
34:31yes I am
34:32are you proud of your sister over there
34:33yes I am
34:33well we're proud of both here
34:34the Minogue girls
34:36but I didn't have the acting dream
34:39I was harbouring this
34:43fantasy
34:46of making music
34:56you need some quiet to concentrate
35:00always so dramatic
35:03but
35:06so remember
35:07Johnny wants us to sing the show this week
35:12and remember the song
35:15sisters are doing it for themselves
35:16that's my sister Kylie
35:18she's always in a hurry
35:20she plays a part of Charlene in Neighbours
35:22the little money that I made
35:24I used for singing lessons
35:273, 2, 1
35:30go
35:31now this is a song
35:35to stand a freak
35:37yeah
35:39the gorgeous information
35:42of a female chair
35:44and I was nervous as hell
35:47but young enough to just go for it
36:01not long after that
36:02the guy who produced your music show
36:04came to me and said
36:05oh you should make a record
36:10like
36:10my world became special effects
36:14sisters are doing it for themselves
36:19standing on their own two feet
36:23and drinking on their own
36:25like someone said that to me
36:42she's been the butt of a fair bit of cynicism
36:44by media in London
36:46and the papers over there
36:47really did give her a bit of a pasting
36:49like
36:53she looked like
36:54a slept in Qantas blanket
36:57and another thing
36:58she looked like she got off the plane
37:00in a kangaroo's pouch
37:02I mean they really gave her some
37:04yeah
37:04they get very nasty at times
37:06and it's not nice
37:10it was crushing to hear
37:14stuff that
37:15you never say now
37:17and
37:20get away with it
37:23but everyone thought it was okay
37:24and if you'd signed up to be a pop star
37:27then you
37:28meant to be emotionally bulletproof
37:30if you listen to it all
37:31it's going to drag you down
37:32so I mean you know what's right
37:34so you've got to believe in yourself
37:38and then even further as a female pop artist
37:41don't say anything
37:42just
37:43be pretty and
37:44shut up
37:49but it really did hurt her
37:51because she's very musical
37:53do you feel like you want to go and smack someone in the mouth
37:55one of these journalists
37:57those days I say
37:59today's newspapers
38:00tomorrow's fish and chips
38:01and don't worry about it
38:02you don't worry about that
38:03try not to
38:07there was a point in time I remember
38:10it just all got too much
38:17I remember her being the moment
38:19where I just kind of broke down
38:25I must have been crying
38:26I must have been in a bit of a stay
38:30and I remember in that moment
38:32I would have loved to just stay in
38:33and not have to go out and face it
38:36and put myself
38:39out there
38:41but that wasn't the conversation
38:43that we wanted to hear
38:45because our ship is out at sea
38:47we can't go back to port and say
38:49we don't want to be on this bloody ship anymore
38:52Kylie come on out here kid
38:53we can't change course now
38:57come on down
39:00if you don't want a criticism
39:03you don't read reviews
39:06and this is the gold album for Coley Minogue
39:09you just make yourself a move from it
39:13Kylie has the distinction of being the most successful female artist ever
39:20I was insecure
39:22I was uncertain
39:23and when you're a singer
39:25with all your emotions in your voice
39:27I've got to be
39:29got to be certain
39:31I've got to be
39:34so sure
39:35out of ten how good are you as a singer
39:38oh I couldn't say
39:40go on
39:40don't be modest
39:42um
39:44five
39:48I can see it in performances
39:49when there's so many voices in my head saying
39:53you can't do it
39:54you just can't do it
40:01and I think it just sets you back
40:03and you question
40:04then you question yourself
40:06maybe I'm not capable
40:08maybe they're right
40:09I don't feel that Kylie is hugely talented
40:13she's not original
40:14she's styled like that
40:15she's almost a sort of DIY slap
40:17how hollow her particular energy
40:19somehow in being a shape
40:20devised for everybody
40:22you yourself become nobody
40:27this is our room
40:28it's a nice room isn't it
40:32and guess who's in the bathroom
40:34it's a nice room
40:35wow
40:35it's a Kylie mag
40:38who's that pointing the camera
40:44when all the criticism came her way about her voice
40:50she struggled
40:56she really struggled
41:00and I was like
41:01well maybe you shouldn't have gone down that route
41:04because that's sort of how my attitude was
41:09don't look at me like that
41:11because her music career at that point
41:14had really taken off
41:15and it pissed
41:17I don't know
41:18it didn't piss me off
41:19but it was like
41:24okay
41:28we'd been this
41:29partnership in this show
41:33so you're jealous
41:35what that gets serious
41:36suddenly
41:38I could see
41:39she was moving away
41:41from her acting
41:45we have to go to dinner now
41:47come on
41:48yes we go
41:49so
41:50there was a few arguments
41:53that's Kylie getting all shitty
41:55little boss moss
42:01I'm coming
42:07and also you know
42:09I had my own ego at that point
42:11why isn't this happening to me
42:12do you know what I mean
42:19until they got on the phone
42:20and asked me to do it
42:21and then it all changed
42:31I mean
42:31try working me out
42:33then at that point
42:34I don't fucking know
42:38how do you feel about Jason's record deal
42:41well he's been
42:43I think he's been working on it
42:46for the last few months
42:52you know I guess I was frightened
42:55for some reason
42:57that I was going to lose her
42:58you know
43:00but
43:01yeah
43:09okay now we're on to another
43:11another
43:11another thing
43:26my brother found this
43:28my ticket from seeing
43:30In Excess in Sydney
43:32which is where I met Michael
43:34the first time
43:36yeah
43:52I can describe what Michael's like on stage
43:54but do yourself a favour
43:56just
43:58watch him
44:18it's not exactly what I mean
44:20he just was
44:21he just had it
44:22he had it
44:28and I thought at one point
44:29I'm like
44:30I'm sure Michael looked at me
44:31I'm sure he looked at me
44:32in the audience
44:43look
44:45I don't have anything against Michael
44:52I was a fan
44:53it was everything probably
44:55I really wanted to be at that point
44:56which is even the irony
45:01right now
45:02In Excess are the hottest Australian exports
45:04since Crocodile Dundee
45:07the latest chapter is lead singer
45:09Michael Hutchins' emergence as a sex symbol
45:11do you like Michael Hutchins?
45:13I love him
45:14how hot?
45:16very hot
45:17hot enough to try and get through his door?
45:19yes
45:19is sex at the heart
45:22in what you sell and do
45:23yeah I think so
45:24I like music that has sex in it
45:27new sex at the shop
45:38after his gig
45:39Jason and I
45:40were invited back
45:41to the after party
45:43let's go
45:44I think we were in
45:47we were in a very small car
45:48I'd hired this
45:50like a Ford Fiesta
45:52you know
45:53they got into their stretch limo
45:55and said follow us
45:57and there's little old me
45:59with Kylie
46:01following this rock god
46:03and his entourage
46:04two of us
46:05in his tiny little
46:07crappy little white vehicle
46:09to the hotel
46:11so that's when I met Michael
46:15we're getting
46:161.4 million pounds
46:18for this tonight
46:19I'm getting 5 grand
46:205 fucking grand
46:215 grand
46:22that'll pay him a fucking
46:23champagne bill
46:24at the hotel
46:24fuck
46:26did you talk to Michael?
46:28he wasn't interested in me
46:29yeah
46:31I could tell
46:32he was focused on her
46:33absolutely
46:34I could sniff that one
46:36a mile away
46:36and
46:38she disappeared with him
46:41into the bathroom
46:42if I think
46:42if I remember correctly
46:43which is fine
46:47you know
46:47growing up
46:50and
46:52and I would have been
46:53feeling a bit like
46:57how did we get here
46:58kind of thing
46:59and
47:02we were talking about
47:03singer stuff
47:07and he said he lived in Hong Kong
47:11and I was about to go to Hong Kong
47:12and Japan
47:13and do these
47:14live shows
47:15I hadn't really done live shows
47:18so I was
47:19nervous as hell
47:21there should be
47:22about 40,000 people
47:24this whole area
47:26I can't imagine what it will be like
47:28full of people
47:28but
47:28there will be people
47:31in this whole area
47:34and Michael was telling me
47:35about these
47:36magical drops
47:37something to
47:38help with your vocals
47:40he was
47:41under the guise of
47:42yeah
47:42well
47:42I'll
47:42I'll get the stuff for you
47:44and
47:44and kind of take you for dinner
47:49which
47:50led to us meeting
47:51in Hong Kong
47:55and
47:56he was really late
48:04I'm interested in
48:05somehow
48:07maintaining
48:08um
48:09something that I believe in
48:11that's all
48:11you know
48:12I just believe in
48:14in the music that we do
48:15and what I have to say
48:17and if I can maintain that
48:19through all this
48:20then I'll be very happy
48:21I mean I was
48:25I was kind of mesmerised
48:27and he was mesmerised
48:45at that point in time
48:46I didn't have any belief
48:48in my voice
48:49so I would lean to just
48:51do lots of dancing
48:55and Michael
48:56had some advice
48:57that stayed with me
49:00some stillness is okay
49:01on stage actors
49:02you don't have to be
49:04running around
49:05all the time
49:06but you know
49:07what we could do
49:07is just
49:09the effect of stillness
49:10would be really good
49:12the first stage
49:13and just all stand
49:14there really straight
49:14yeah
49:26and those critical voices
49:29for a few moments
49:30went away
49:35it's nice to think of
49:36it's the best thing
49:39that happened to me
49:40and I'm not ashamed
49:42for the world to see
49:45it's the best thing
49:47to do
49:48lay back
49:52all the way to death
49:56all the way to death
50:00my life is strong
50:02to me
50:08I could tell
50:09something wasn't right
50:18I could tell
50:19I could smell it
50:24hello
50:28I don't like to be
50:30trapped in anything
50:32because I enjoy change
50:34and I don't want to be
50:36hemmed in or boxed in
50:37or defined in a certain way
50:51the tiny 20 year old singer
50:53has left the enormously
50:54successful soap series
50:56Neighbours
50:56I mean it's a plucky
50:58decision to leave Neighbours
51:03Jason and I will always have
51:05this undeniable bond
51:07but things are about to change
51:11there's no need to look at my picture yet
51:13I'm still here
51:18love hurts mate
51:28you just know there is a moment
51:31the minute you don't surprise your audience
51:33right
51:34that's some of that
51:36you become part of the ether
51:40that's when you have to come up with something different
51:41you've had all your hits yet
51:43but oh
51:44oh yeah
51:45it's just Kylie
51:46what makes it not Kylie
51:48forget the norminess of the sorrow
51:51I don't think I can say anymore
51:53to be fucking honest
51:54shit I'll be in
51:55I'll be in therapy tomorrow
51:57just getting over
51:57no
51:58oh no
51:59I'm joking
51:59I'm joking
52:00no no
52:00I'm joking
52:02what about your man
52:04I just left him
52:09so then what happened
52:26any questions anybody
53:08I just left him
53:11I just left him
53:51I just left him
54:09I just left him
54:12You
55:09You
55:39You
56:09You
56:16You
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